My biggest issue with unofficial trails being taken away from local riders and official trails and trail centres being the only places to ride is that they move further away from people without the ability to travel to get to them. I don't drive, so my only option to get to any trail these days is o ride nearly an hour before I even start. There used to be a small wood that is now fenced off and home to heavy equipment and temporary offices that are building on the fields I used to ride around too. I hope people realise how lucky they are to have trails they can ride every day or even once a week. Many don't have access and that is a huge issue.
This excites me! Topics that ultimately define the sustainability and future of the sport. More awareness, education and conversation is needed from all riders. Fair play Specialised and Manon for stepping up and making this feature.
Thanks for letting all of us at DWACO tackle this subject with Manon Specialized ! So many opinions were shared - some which have already been written in the comments - and wherever you sit on the matter, it’s great to have these conversations on our riding spots.
Great video, thank you. Great to see the positive work lots of people and organisations are doing to promote this great sport. Dartmoor National Park need to take note…
Really enjoyed that, we have a little trail spot in Nottingham called the Hemlock Trail Association where we have three little trails that we maintain. Enjoyed hearing all the stories!
I think a big thing here in Colorado is mountain bike organizations building multi use and even hiker only trails. We've had a massive expansion after that.
Been writing about this for ages (years now) that we are missing a national association like DMBiS in England and Wales. OpenMTB unfortunately didn't last. I think a UK-wide political organisation is needed. If that isn't feasible we need one in England and one in Wales. Otherwise as motivational as this video is it misses making the point strong enough I felt that joining a local trail association is brilliant and needed but potentially wont be able to cope without national political protection and new funds (from riders and bike brand taxing), given the growth of the sport from a covid reconnection with nature, EMTB (not mentioned!), and the general maturity of riders and the bike tech leading to more demand for off-piste gnarliar trails. Strength in numbers to guide, nurture and protect.. we need a well-funded UK political movement.
Well thought out film, good to see everybody moving things forward, we even got a small mention on the Scottish map, I hope this leads to better things in the future. There are some links on our You Tube page to see what we have been up to in our area.
Here in america we have dedicated trails on our national parks,regional parks,state parks ,county parks and city parks..here in phx..where it may not have the best trails in the US due to the dry and sandy trails we have abundant trails within 30 minutes of driving..
Great video on a subject that needs looking into. I ride at Afan Argoed in South Wales a lot as it’s close to home and the problem there is there is only a small number of official trails (5) which do get boring after riding them a lot, which then takes us to riding some off piste or “unofficial “ places for some variety, and NRW do not seem interested in expending and making a few more when there is plenty of areas for the opportunity within the Afan Forest Park, whether heading towards Margam park where there has only recently last year had an old trail reinstated or over the Rhigos, nor do they invest of maintenance as they would rather a group of local volunteers do it for free off their own backs (big round of applause for them Afan Trail Volunteers), instead NRW would rather make the quick buck by selling trees and destroying the area, including parts of trails and fire roads. Plenty of better money to be made by expanding the mtb networks we have here and over south and the rest of Wales. The NRW guy on the video does look like a right do-gooder Malcolm so we have no chance
Really interesting film about an oft controversial topic. I really think we need to look at a Scottish style approach to access.grrat to see some of my local trails in this. Great work by Ride Sheffield, Eastern Moors Partnership, PDMTB to develop access and new trails. 👍
Excellent film, unfortunately FE in our local woods are simply demolish trails and features and refuse to hold a conversation, refuse to pass on info on their assessments etc, they have even refused to respond to riders wanting to get their support to organise litter picks! 45min up the road, different FE staff and they seem to be working well with local riders.
You build wild trails because trail centres wont put the features that progress the sport. Seen at glentress and inners over many years ( I understand their hands are tied). The liability laws need to change. If you risk your neck then you suffer the consequences no one else.
Please add English subtitles or activate the automatically translation. It's hard for me to get the message from some parts of the video. It's sounds sometimes a bit like the listening tasks in English school classes. The Germans know what I'm talking about 😂 By the way, great video! I really enjoy it and I want to know what problems the bike community in UK have with local trail building and how they solve them.
On My one Turbo Levo FSR 2019 appear some cracks on frame nearly rear triangle mount (engine side) Specialized don't wanna exchange my frame becouse is „after test"... 60miles around the shop 2 years ago. My one cracks... yours can too.
@@stuarthayward8717 yeah I've ridden there a few times. If you've ever ridden cwmcarn the majority of the trails are accessed from the top of the risca side of the valley at the very top of the trail centre. Very steep trails. Good fun. Some trees down at the moment tho so some trails closed.
Hey specialized! Why no closed captioning for this vid? I couldn't understand about 60% of the dialogue so captions help lots of people enjoy this awesome vid! Ride ride ride!
It looks like Strava is a double edged sword - As mentioned in the video, Strava allows statistics to be collected on unofficial trail usage to justify protecting them, but it also makes it very easy for Stravassholes to find other people's trails and chew them to bits while contributing nothing to maintaining them. The worst thing about Strava is that it incentivises a certain cohort of Strava riders to ride multi-use trails and trails that intersect busy pedestrian trails at dangerous speeds in pursuit of leaderboard places, increasing the likelihood of bikes getting banned from places they've been using for decades without issues because they create a disproportionate amount of risk and trail conflict.
@@peglor Agreed, while it's not cool to put "secret" trails on Strava - it's time to stop pretending we don't ride off-piste and to be acknowledged as legitimate outdoor users.
insurance killed the horse treking industry. Think about it.you both have a saddle and similar c.o.g.p.s turn of your lights.and say hello.to the horse.
Horses are a much higher risk than bikes, but that risk has historically been normalised by extremely wealthy horse owners who are often also large landowners with seats in the house of lords, so this is more like a movement from exceptionalism towards normalcy than an industry that isn't dangerous being labelled as dangerous out of the blue. A fall off a horse is from a lot higher up than off a bike (Just measure how much further the rider's head is off the ground while on a horse vs. a bike). MTBers have the added benefit of not shitting all over the trails they use and not having the extremely high ground pressure horse hooves have, so they don't cut trails up (I've seen trails I've been riding for years made almost unusable by 2-3 horses passing through creating holes with their hooves which held water leading to massive erosion). A further benefit is that MTB riders don't get flung off their bikes while stationary by sudden loud noises. While I absolutely will stop and/or make sure any horse rider I see knows I'm coming rather than cause an accident - a better option than hoping everyone you encounter while on horseback will behave exactly as you expect so your horse doesn't kill you is to train the horses to not shit themselves when anything happens suddenly near them. Historically horses were trained to be ridden into battle, so there must be decent ways to train them to be calm. The noise from my bike nearly caused a rider to be thrown off her horse a few years ago when I was freewheeling down a hill and passed a driveway into a house that the horse rider was 50+ meters down, causing it to rear up for no reason. There was no way I could see the horse until I was passing the driveway even though I had plenty of time to stop safely for anything on the road I was riding on. If I'd been using car or motorbike I'd have been gong a lot faster and probably not even noticed the near miss though.
the music in this is the best part i’ve got to say!
My biggest issue with unofficial trails being taken away from local riders and official trails and trail centres being the only places to ride is that they move further away from people without the ability to travel to get to them. I don't drive, so my only option to get to any trail these days is o ride nearly an hour before I even start. There used to be a small wood that is now fenced off and home to heavy equipment and temporary offices that are building on the fields I used to ride around too.
I hope people realise how lucky they are to have trails they can ride every day or even once a week. Many don't have access and that is a huge issue.
What a wonderful film! You guys did an awesome job!
This excites me! Topics that ultimately define the sustainability and future of the sport. More awareness, education and conversation is needed from all riders. Fair play Specialised and Manon for stepping up and making this feature.
Thanks for letting all of us at DWACO tackle this subject with Manon Specialized ! So many opinions were shared - some which have already been written in the comments - and wherever you sit on the matter, it’s great to have these conversations on our riding spots.
🏴 fantastic video great news looking forward to seeing what's coming next ✌🏼🏴
Well done Specialized for doing this and everyone who took part 👍👍
Great video, thank you. Great to see the positive work lots of people and organisations are doing to promote this great sport. Dartmoor National Park need to take note…
Really enjoyed that, we have a little trail spot in Nottingham called the Hemlock Trail Association where we have three little trails that we maintain. Enjoyed hearing all the stories!
A great serious look at how we can progress our sport, sustainably and in harmony with others.
Amazing to see good people pushing for change facing this issue head on the future is bright 👏
Nice to see my local getting attention 🏴
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I think a big thing here in Colorado is mountain bike organizations building multi use and even hiker only trails. We've had a massive expansion after that.
Still alot of unnecessary red tape in Colorado though!
MTB is amazing and great sport which help your soul. our community since COVID double the riders.
They are so lucky to live in an area where they have access to such large sections of land with any large features so close to your homes.
Thank you Manon and Tommy. Honest, candid, reality throughout.
Proud to be apart of it, brilliant 🙌🙌
Great video, really well done, lots of food for thought..
It's great to see what can be achieved with heart and soul, energy and perseverance! Very exciting Video! Next trip is to Scotland :-)
Been writing about this for ages (years now) that we are missing a national association like DMBiS in England and Wales. OpenMTB unfortunately didn't last. I think a UK-wide political organisation is needed. If that isn't feasible we need one in England and one in Wales. Otherwise as motivational as this video is it misses making the point strong enough I felt that joining a local trail association is brilliant and needed but potentially wont be able to cope without national political protection and new funds (from riders and bike brand taxing), given the growth of the sport from a covid reconnection with nature, EMTB (not mentioned!), and the general maturity of riders and the bike tech leading to more demand for off-piste gnarliar trails. Strength in numbers to guide, nurture and protect.. we need a well-funded UK political movement.
Nice one, Manon et al!
Well thought out film, good to see everybody moving things forward, we even got a small mention on the Scottish map, I hope this leads to better things in the future.
There are some links on our You Tube page to see what we have been up to in our area.
Thanks for a positive vid informing people of the right direction. Now if we can get it on something like country file for more publicity. 🤘😁🤘
Beautiful
Here in america we have dedicated trails on our national parks,regional parks,state parks ,county parks and city parks..here in phx..where it may not have the best trails in the US due to the dry and sandy trails we have abundant trails within 30 minutes of driving..
Brilliant film 🙌🙌
I cant wait
Fantastic film!
Great video on a subject that needs looking into. I ride at Afan Argoed in South Wales a lot as it’s close to home and the problem there is there is only a small number of official trails (5) which do get boring after riding them a lot, which then takes us to riding some off piste or “unofficial “ places for some variety, and NRW do not seem interested in expending and making a few more when there is plenty of areas for the opportunity within the Afan Forest Park, whether heading towards Margam park where there has only recently last year had an old trail reinstated or over the Rhigos, nor do they invest of maintenance as they would rather a group of local volunteers do it for free off their own backs (big round of applause for them Afan Trail Volunteers), instead NRW would rather make the quick buck by selling trees and destroying the area, including parts of trails and fire roads. Plenty of better money to be made by expanding the mtb networks we have here and over south and the rest of Wales. The NRW guy on the video does look like a right do-gooder Malcolm so we have no chance
Really interesting film about an oft controversial topic. I really think we need to look at a Scottish style approach to access.grrat to see some of my local trails in this. Great work by Ride Sheffield, Eastern Moors Partnership, PDMTB to develop access and new trails. 👍
I can’t wait
brilliant piece!
Excellent film, unfortunately FE in our local woods are simply demolish trails and features and refuse to hold a conversation, refuse to pass on info on their assessments etc, they have even refused to respond to riders wanting to get their support to organise litter picks! 45min up the road, different FE staff and they seem to be working well with local riders.
You build wild trails because trail centres wont put the features that progress the sport. Seen at glentress and inners over many years ( I understand their hands are tied). The liability laws need to change. If you risk your neck then you suffer the consequences no one else.
Would have been a kind gift to say, “…because trail centres can’t put the features…” , especially as you go on to explain why. But, yes, I agree 😊
Seems the best way is to change the law so the landowner isn't liable for injurys caused and can't be sued?
Seen" bob the baker" trail on this video 💪
Inspiring ! is it possible to activate the subtitle ?
Please add English subtitles or activate the automatically translation. It's hard for me to get the message from some parts of the video.
It's sounds sometimes a bit like the listening tasks in English school classes. The Germans know what I'm talking about 😂
By the way, great video! I really enjoy it and I want to know what problems the bike community in UK have with local trail building and how they solve them.
I’m waiting
On My one Turbo Levo FSR
2019 appear some cracks on frame nearly rear
triangle mount (engine side)
Specialized don't wanna exchange my frame
becouse is „after test"... 60miles around the shop
2 years ago. My one cracks... yours can too.
yyuuurrrrrrrr
Does anyone know which part of Wales the three guys are talking about?
Risca riders, Risca near Cwmcarn trail centre.
@@barneyisourhero thanks for reply mate. Have you ridden there? Is it worth a visit?
@@stuarthayward8717 yeah I've ridden there a few times. If you've ever ridden cwmcarn the majority of the trails are accessed from the top of the risca side of the valley at the very top of the trail centre. Very steep trails. Good fun. Some trees down at the moment tho so some trails closed.
Look at that pedal Bob....
Fine pedals indeed, but my name's not Bob 😛.
Hey specialized! Why no closed captioning for this vid? I couldn't understand about 60% of the dialogue so captions help lots of people enjoy this awesome vid! Ride ride ride!
Omg
You can't authorise a dirt path! Bloody government ey!
Turn off Strava
It looks like Strava is a double edged sword - As mentioned in the video, Strava allows statistics to be collected on unofficial trail usage to justify protecting them, but it also makes it very easy for Stravassholes to find other people's trails and chew them to bits while contributing nothing to maintaining them. The worst thing about Strava is that it incentivises a certain cohort of Strava riders to ride multi-use trails and trails that intersect busy pedestrian trails at dangerous speeds in pursuit of leaderboard places, increasing the likelihood of bikes getting banned from places they've been using for decades without issues because they create a disproportionate amount of risk and trail conflict.
@@peglor Agreed, while it's not cool to put "secret" trails on Strava - it's time to stop pretending we don't ride off-piste and to be acknowledged as legitimate outdoor users.
Moved to the country, bought land and made private trails. City problems......
PLEASE SPECIALIZED, LOWER THE PRICE SO MORE PEOPLE CAN ENJOY YOUR AMAZING BIKES 🔥
insurance killed the horse treking industry. Think about it.you both have a saddle and similar c.o.g.p.s turn of your lights.and say hello.to the horse.
Horses are a much higher risk than bikes, but that risk has historically been normalised by extremely wealthy horse owners who are often also large landowners with seats in the house of lords, so this is more like a movement from exceptionalism towards normalcy than an industry that isn't dangerous being labelled as dangerous out of the blue.
A fall off a horse is from a lot higher up than off a bike (Just measure how much further the rider's head is off the ground while on a horse vs. a bike). MTBers have the added benefit of not shitting all over the trails they use and not having the extremely high ground pressure horse hooves have, so they don't cut trails up (I've seen trails I've been riding for years made almost unusable by 2-3 horses passing through creating holes with their hooves which held water leading to massive erosion).
A further benefit is that MTB riders don't get flung off their bikes while stationary by sudden loud noises. While I absolutely will stop and/or make sure any horse rider I see knows I'm coming rather than cause an accident - a better option than hoping everyone you encounter while on horseback will behave exactly as you expect so your horse doesn't kill you is to train the horses to not shit themselves when anything happens suddenly near them.
Historically horses were trained to be ridden into battle, so there must be decent ways to train them to be calm. The noise from my bike nearly caused a rider to be thrown off her horse a few years ago when I was freewheeling down a hill and passed a driveway into a house that the horse rider was 50+ meters down, causing it to rear up for no reason. There was no way I could see the horse until I was passing the driveway even though I had plenty of time to stop safely for anything on the road I was riding on. If I'd been using car or motorbike I'd have been gong a lot faster and probably not even noticed the near miss though.
@@peglor just saying horse poo is gold dust to any woodland and its not dangerous.
Right to roam shame my forefathers were ethnically cleansed durring the Highland clearances .
Right to loam...
@@matt_squires_og Indeed.
Overpriced BS of a bike 👎