Judo throws are so beautiful. BJJ players are so eager to get to the ground (in whatever clumsy way) that they forget that everything can be decided by one well-executed throw.
That is the big gap in BJJ. On the ground ( newaza) they are the best grapplers but on trows judoka's are miles ahead of them. Im not sayin BJJ is bad but on a street fight judoka's have a great advantage becouse they have those good trows. One succesfull trow on hard concrete is a possible fight ending.
mate this frame and lighting is great and clear, I love all your vids being a brand new highly zealous white belt, but this vid I could really see everything a lot easier. Thanks again Teach!!
i really like ogoshi, it is a very 'natural' throw, one that people will do without even knowing they are, but it is a very difficult one to setup (i have found). thanks for the tips and sequence. would you consider ashi-uchi-mata or ouchi gari to also valid as setups?
Thank you, tomorrow i will try that Ogoshi again....It's kid of hard me to get the right position, because my sides are stiff and sholders too...Too much weight lifting and the rest you know...
I love o-goshi because it's a close body hip throw. unlike say seoi nage you are stepping in. O-goshi feels like me sticking with the body in a tight situation already
I dont feel like I have the speed to move in from distance for an ippon sieonage, morote or similar but this type of forward throw, which starts from a close body position works better for me.
@@matthewoneill5354 have you tried a drop seoi nagi? I'm right there with you on the speed thing and I've had some success with the drop seoi nagi for closing distance.
@@ddsharknads7782 thanks, yes I have actually, with some reasonable success in competitions and gradings. Its definately easier to commit to that throw and use the energy created by the drop. Cheers...👍
@@matthewoneill5354 I got what you are saying. I just started with Judo. I'm still in uchikomi stage. In uchikomi i do seoi nage in traditional hold with distance than turn in for the throw. But o goshi just start in holding the belt already. Probably i missed a step. I don't know much about competitions right now so i can only talk with my feelings. And o-goshi really gave me a feeling of doing JUDO
This circle drag with underhook position seems very tricky to do on heavier or even the same weight opponent. It feels unconvincing even on non-resisting and in randori the opponent just blocks/counters. Dragging from the lapel first seems more practical (if the drag results in a good position to throw hips in).
I’ve been watching your videos for a while now, do you think I’m ready to enter a judo tournament? 😉 I have been showing your videos to my little twin daughters, as they started judo classes half a year ago now, I always tell them to watch at least one of the videos a day to keep their little minds occupied with tactics and skill acquisition. Cheers brother. Even if a lot of the videos are related to bjj…. Also great content.
These techniques in judo are very impressive indeed I don't know if I'm ever get back it into karate this type of program cost a lot more than usual I just wish I could have stayed in my original karate class and maybe things would have worked out better I just wish I could have got into it more on my computer or just try to improvise but good judo techniques I just wish I learns thing like this in karate it could have helped no matter who your up against what does someone is bigger and stronger than you would I just wish I could have kept up so I can become much stronger and bigger then they are so I can overpower them as hard as I can 🥋💪😉👍🥋
When I attempt in this in BJJ, I just go for an underhook, as there really isn't anything to grab. That being said, I think this is very hard to do no gi because you have no sleeve to grab on the opposite side. I'm sure there's somebody that can give you better advice though. I've only been doing this for a year.
You should look at how wrestlers do this throw. It's called a hip toss and can be done from different clinch positions. Having a good underhook, a strong pull on the wrist or elbow works. I wrestled a little in high school and was taught to shoot my hips through instead of directly in front. Also throw for distance. Meaning do not throw the person directly in front of you but further away.
My issue with this throw would be the shoulder blade. I feel like im getting jammed up at the bottom near my spine when i grab around them. Any idea to help?
Dear Sensei Shintaro Please Help I used to do judo when i was kid , O goshi was my move , i restart BJJ at 35 i can do o goshi in a drill like old time , but when we roll i can't get in there ( no gi) it takes so much , i get there once every 10 time , to get the waist wrap and the arm control to close the distance .. pls help sensei
how does one do O-goshi on a guy with stomach so large your arm can't go around his back? probably wouldn't try in competition, but I have to practice this move for my yellow belt promo, and most of the guys in my weight class, 100kg+, are more like 130kg+... it is becoming difficult to practice this. Can I just grab the side of the belt, instead of trying to go all the way around the back?
The important thing is getting an underhook, it will give you a lot of leverage when paired woth the sleave control on their other arm. If they are vey heavy, you must make them want to move into your throw! You can try to do something like a Ko Uchi gari for that. They'll put their weight forward to not get thrown by the ko uchi, when they do that, you go for your O Goshi.
Relax the arms. Itl feel natural, and turn more with the torso. Close the gap and wait for his offbalanced defensive posture to come up naturally into you. Thats your kuzushi.
Hey. Wow found my 9 month old comment. Shit is still complicated. Started doing some freestyle wrestling and it's actually kind of helped my judo. I'll check back in another 9 months.
Judo throws are so beautiful. BJJ players are so eager to get to the ground (in whatever clumsy way) that they forget that everything can be decided by one well-executed throw.
You mean started by one well executed throw .
@@ClwnJuNkY No
@@neoroman0510 yes a few Mma fights there have been KOs from some throws . A throw on the street can certainly fuck some punk up !
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That is the big gap in BJJ.
On the ground ( newaza) they are the best grapplers but on trows judoka's are miles ahead of them.
Im not sayin BJJ is bad but on a street fight judoka's have a great advantage becouse they have those good trows.
One succesfull trow on hard concrete is a possible fight ending.
Best judo chanel
No doubt! When this pandemic ends, I'd like to get him to Northeast NJ for a seminar. I love that he wrestled also. A true takedown/throw master.
I have no argument
Best judo Gucci
mate this frame and lighting is great and clear, I love all your vids being a brand new highly zealous white belt, but this vid I could really see everything a lot easier. Thanks again Teach!!
i really like ogoshi, it is a very 'natural' throw, one that people will do without even knowing they are, but it is a very difficult one to setup (i have found). thanks for the tips and sequence. would you consider ashi-uchi-mata or ouchi gari to also valid as setups?
I struggled so much to learn this technique, I'm glad that I found this video
Thank you so much my brudda. I’m a white belt and These videos are so helpful for me.
just a cool guy and a master of in his area
Thank you, tomorrow i will try that Ogoshi again....It's kid of hard me to get the right position, because my sides are stiff and sholders too...Too much weight lifting and the rest you know...
His technique is Awesome ❗
Oous ❗
Much respect,
Sensei Ortega!
From san yama bushi,
This is great. Thank you!
Very nice set up, I´ll try it tomorrow. Thank´s for sharing.
Brilliant
I love o-goshi because it's a close body hip throw. unlike say seoi nage you are stepping in. O-goshi feels like me sticking with the body in a tight situation already
I dont feel like I have the speed to move in from distance for an ippon sieonage, morote or similar but this type of forward throw, which starts from a close body position works better for me.
Same. I also feel less exposed if I can't get the setup right or execute the throw.
@@matthewoneill5354 have you tried a drop seoi nagi? I'm right there with you on the speed thing and I've had some success with the drop seoi nagi for closing distance.
@@ddsharknads7782 thanks, yes I have actually, with some reasonable success in competitions and gradings. Its definately easier to commit to that throw and use the energy created by the drop. Cheers...👍
@@matthewoneill5354 I got what you are saying. I just started with Judo. I'm still in uchikomi stage. In uchikomi i do seoi nage in traditional hold with distance than turn in for the throw. But o goshi just start in holding the belt already. Probably i missed a step. I don't know much about competitions right now so i can only talk with my feelings. And o-goshi really gave me a feeling of doing JUDO
Good stuff!!
I really like using o goshi from close clinch fighting
Hahaha same bro🔥🔥🔥
amazing stuff
Beautiful
Awesome! Great details. Than yku
I love your videos !! Very clear and to the point
Nice. Thank ou.
Awesome 👍🤙
This circle drag with underhook position seems very tricky to do on heavier or even the same weight opponent. It feels unconvincing even on non-resisting and in randori the opponent just blocks/counters. Dragging from the lapel first seems more practical (if the drag results in a good position to throw hips in).
I’ve been watching your videos for a while now, do you think I’m ready to enter a judo tournament? 😉 I have been showing your videos to my little twin daughters, as they started judo classes half a year ago now, I always tell them to watch at least one of the videos a day to keep their little minds occupied with tactics and skill acquisition. Cheers brother. Even if a lot of the videos are related to bjj…. Also great content.
Great!❤
Excellent ^^
Thanks
These techniques in judo are very impressive indeed I don't know if I'm ever get back it into karate this type of program cost a lot more than usual I just wish I could have stayed in my original karate class and maybe things would have worked out better I just wish I could have got into it more on my computer or just try to improvise but good judo techniques I just wish I learns thing like this in karate it could have helped no matter who your up against what does someone is bigger and stronger than you would I just wish I could have kept up so I can become much stronger and bigger then they are so I can overpower them as hard as I can 🥋💪😉👍🥋
Is it different to throw the ogoshi with no gi? What should the waist hand grab is probably a better question
When I attempt in this in BJJ, I just go for an underhook, as there really isn't anything to grab. That being said, I think this is very hard to do no gi because you have no sleeve to grab on the opposite side. I'm sure there's somebody that can give you better advice though. I've only been doing this for a year.
You should look at how wrestlers do this throw. It's called a hip toss and can be done from different clinch positions. Having a good underhook, a strong pull on the wrist or elbow works. I wrestled a little in high school and was taught to shoot my hips through instead of directly in front. Also throw for distance. Meaning do not throw the person directly in front of you but further away.
Great technique, lifting with the belt makes it tsuri-goshi though :P
Do you have to grab their belt when you do this throw???
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5 years practicing judo, so far my tokui waza
Hahaha, i have been doing Judo since i was 4 years old and this also seems to be my best technique, at the very least is the one i like the most!
I like ogoshi i trained judo for 6 years and still struggle setting it up even tho i have perfect technique
Sensei, should our backs be straight or leaning over during this throw? Leaning forward or straight up before we bow forward?
My issue with this throw would be the shoulder blade. I feel like im getting jammed up at the bottom near my spine when i grab around them. Any idea to help?
That's Kevin from Shameless!!
Hey at :32 he says his white belt curriculum is free, I haven't found that. Is it 40$ or free?
Long time. You still doing classes? Started again?
Dear Sensei Shintaro
Please Help
I used to do judo when i was kid , O goshi was my move , i restart BJJ at 35
i can do o goshi in a drill like old time , but when we roll
i can't get in there ( no gi) it takes so much , i get there once every 10 time , to get the waist wrap and the arm control
to close the distance .. pls help sensei
how does one do O-goshi on a guy with stomach so large your arm can't go around his back? probably wouldn't try in competition, but I have to practice this move for my yellow belt promo, and most of the guys in my weight class, 100kg+, are more like 130kg+... it is becoming difficult to practice this. Can I just grab the side of the belt, instead of trying to go all the way around the back?
The important thing is getting an underhook, it will give you a lot of leverage when paired woth the sleave control on their other arm.
If they are vey heavy, you must make them want to move into your throw! You can try to do something like a Ko Uchi gari for that. They'll put their weight forward to not get thrown by the ko uchi, when they do that, you go for your O Goshi.
the mad man is training with buff Roman Reigns
I am afraid to break my shoulder when I rotate
Relax the arms. Itl feel natural, and turn more with the torso. Close the gap and wait for his offbalanced defensive posture to come up naturally into you. Thats your kuzushi.
So one question do you stand on your toes or are your feet flat on the floor?
feet flat and firmly placed, close together inside the defenders stance is optimal, check out the video around 2:25. Peace
don't try that throw if you didn't know how to properly land it my injure you or someone may.
@@bryce2374 good advice for all throws. I worry about people learning judo from videos
How many seconds can you hold back the belt behind ? thx
You have to attack immediately if you grab the belt, if you hold on for too long without attacking it's a Shido
The rule says immediately but you can hold the belt for 3 seconds but definitely you must to attack if not you will get a shido.
Every throw is complicated!!!
Hey. Wow found my 9 month old comment. Shit is still complicated. Started doing some freestyle wrestling and it's actually kind of helped my judo. I'll check back in another 9 months.
@@Brandon-ob9rgdo that
How's it going, is shit still complicated? I started recently, having trouble with coordinating upper and lower body technique during throw.
Came here since I saw a guy use this against another guy wielding a machete
This is ukigoshi , not ogoshi
you didțt watch the whole video
@shintaro_higashi Could you please elaborate on what you mean by a more dangerous proposition? I am a lefty so I would much appreciate it.