Danchou Misses the Old Days When Everyone Was Together Spending Time in a Tiny Studio...【Hololive】
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2023
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@ShiroganeNoel
【4周年カウントダウン】念願のコラボ日本酒でフリーダムに乾杯しながら迎えよーッ✨【白銀ノエル/ホロライブ】
• 【4周年カウントダウン】念願のコラボ日本酒で...
I am definitely not addicted to Vtubers and Hololive or anything like that. I can quit anytime, trust me. But first, just one more clip...
#HololiveEN #VtuberEN #Hololive #Vtuber 
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![Fubuki and Subaru Talk About Subaru in Her Early Days [Hololive Clip]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gr3yO-Iq3PU/mqdefault.jpg)
![Fubuki and Subaru Talk About Subaru in Her Early Days [Hololive Clip]](/img/tr.png)
![Kronii share her bitter past story [Karaoke Story]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PHnfWHrhCtE/mqdefault.jpg)
I love how Danchou started singing as a way to cope with crying lol. But honestly yeah. Gen 3 was my entry into Hololive and their collabs were so precious. To see Hololive become more popular, the loss of Rushia, and everyone getting busier, these moments are becoming rarer.
I really think it's the busier part. Back then they were mostly just streaming, so they had time to chill together. Now Hololive is so successful that they're always so busy, which is great of course but also means it's more difficult to just chill out with your friends without planning weeks in advance.
Danchou needs to take initiative and invite gens 0-3 to her home.
get 20-ish people in a Tokyo apartment?! impossible
@@yeetusdelete0 if 25 people can fit in a phone booth I think it is probably doable.
@@yeetusdelete0i can fit 9 people on my Honda City... if there's will, there's way XD
Hololive has done so much for a lot of the members, I really hope they develop more bonds of true friendship within the org even if it continues to expand.
Marine being a depressed OL that couldn't make it as a mangaka or illustrator, nor as a voice actor. And she joins Hololive and she can use her personality, voice and drawing skills to the extent of their potential.
Aqua having next to no friends IRL being dragged out by Suisei and Towa to touch grass, but in a small group that's still comfortable as an introvert.
Noel having a somewhat jaded view on life with few friends, but she joins Hololive and moves into the same apartment as her newfound friends and colleagues.
Okayu learning to love her voice, Watame and Suisei getting their singing talents recognized, etc etc etc.
I'm saying I hope Hololive doesn't end up becoming so corporate it starts failing to nurture these things. I don't think it will for some time though.
@user-ts2ir4hc5rwe need Fubuki as ceo
Don’t forget Subaru’s house burning down and her having to work a series of side jobs before applying to Hololive (despite having zero experience as a stream) just because she liked the Granny Vtuber, and just brute forcing her way in with passion.
Or how Kanatan had a huge problem displaying her emotions and feelings, and ending up becoming best friends with Coco.
Or maybe how Coco applied to work as a manager but got convinced to apply as a member after they found out she was Kson.
Or how about Miko more or less deciding on quitting due to no growth before she started streaming GTA V and blew up.
And then probably my favorite was Pekora being shy and introverted, and having a lot of troubles communicating or reaching out to others, always playing alone in Minecraft, somehow getting closer to Moona after a misunderstanding(accidentally extorting Lapus Lazuli), going on to form Usada Kensetsu together.
The growth of Hololive, and part of its charm, is that it’s also been about the growth of the members as entertainers and as people.
The avatars may be virtual, but the emotions and memories are real.
"The avatar may be virtual, but the emotions and memories are real" True. So true. Love these words
@user-ts2ir4hc5r Things will be just fine...when A-chan becomes CEO.
@user-ts2ir4hc5rhe's only 49, I'm sure we'll be fine for a while. Based on some quick math, by the time he retires, Hololive will consist of the population of a small country.
Every single one of the hololive members is so relatable, man... I'm really happy Danchou is able to live her youth that she missed with hololive and the girls. Watching hololive has allowed us to relive our youths, too.
True. Which is why videos like that Shiraken trip was food for the lonely soul. Glamping with her Flare, the two loud bickering duo of MiComet, and the never-ending laugh trips with Polka. Sure, events like that are few and far between but it's still something. I'm thankful Danchou joined Shiraken as they're a "kensetsu" group that stayed close after all this time.
Clickbait thumbnail, she wasn't talking about Gen 3 or Rushia, she was talking about how Hololive was so small they would all cram in their small office and celebrate New Year together, which they can't do anymore because there's too many people and the office got larger
Fun fact, there's footage of the old studio on RUclips and it's stupidly small. The dressing room for the new studio alone would dwarf it 5 to at the minimum.
EDIT: The link for those curious: ruclips.net/video/zuoOafdYeJg/видео.html
Yep, saw it. It was an interview with the staff members and a tour of the studio.
If anyone's interested i could look for it in my watch history. (do note though, the whole video is entirely in japanese)
@@Orome96please do! I'm curious how they operate back in the days
@@tehpyono2203 Found it surprisingly fast.
ruclips.net/video/zuoOafdYeJg/видео.html
Imagine doing a concert in that tiny stuffy room. Must've been rough.
@@tehpyono2203 ruclips.net/video/zuoOafdYeJg/видео.html
Hololive members give this girl a hug she needs one
Hearing Noel cry breaks me down, I am happy for the success Hololive has had but I do miss the old days with Holohouse and more streams collabs. Everyone is just so busy now, Suisei doesnt stream that much anymore, I dont see Noel and Flare together that much now, Kanata has keeps getting sick that sucks I feel bad for her, in generel everybody is just busy. Plus back then we had Coco I think she really brought people together. I miss Ark I really do think Ark was the best thing for Hololive it really brought everybody together
I think what's changed most from then to now is that they're all much busier, even members of HoloEN and Id have commented on how their schedules are always full, nowadays it's even normal to see some holomembers go days without streaming because they're busy, luckily now there are many members and a large part of the public usually follows more than one of them so when one is absent you can watch another one
So true. That's why i hope that management and Yagoo never forget that. In the end, it isn't about huge collabs or concerts or merch, it's about cute anime girls hanging out with us and just spending fun or wholesome time. I don't want them to become focused only on shows. Well see.
@@franks777_KFP yeah, I joined because I like streamers. The songs and concerts and cool, but it's really not what I'm here for.
I get way more hyped for like the mariokart tournament than holofes ngl.
@@NihongoWakannai i love the holofes, but what i dont love is that at this point we have both that, plus holosummer, plus stuff like new years or other and the girls just grinding from the one to the other, without much time to stream. That's too much, i feel like, and might even hurt their ability to keep their content and community going properly. Ah well, time will tell.
@@NihongoWakannai but songs and concerts is part of Yagoo dream... he even create Reglos for that focus...
@@newwayto2323 idk man, regloss are some of the biggest comedians so far
oh man this really takes me back to the pre 2020 era of vtubers, that was a really fun time to be in. i'll forever be grateful for fubuki's scatman cover for introducing me to vtubers.
I felt that . ..I hope they can still do things like that more often. It's the pain of a growing company that I've also experienced myself: as things get bigger the amenities get better and stuff gets more professional, but the cost is that small and cozy things with a tight group of people become less and less, until one day you walk in and realise you recognise nobody 😢. That is why i firmly believe that companies and communities shouldn't grow forever, if possible...at some point you lose more than you gain and in the end, it is about people too.
It constantly happens with internet communities, including hololive fanbase. Back in 2019 it felt quite tight nit and all the clippers were passionate people just trying to contribute to the community.
Nowadays the community is filled with lots of annoying people who only care about clickbait, drama, doxxing etc. And it kinda sucks
And now 1 missing member of the 3rd gen makes it worse. Man back in 2019, 3rd gen was the most close gen with one another. Even though Pekora rarely goes with them but you can see her getting along with the rest of the 3rd gen.
At that time Pekora used to hang out a lot with the third generation because it was the time she was closest to Miko and Miko always hung out with them since the beginning of this generation, Marine sometimes even joked that she was the sixth member of the third generation, ironically Rushia didn't always hang out with them in several stories I remember they mentioned some other members like Gamers but not Rushia (just before the arrival of the fourth generation)
I would agree with this too, but seeing how Gen 3's video about Rushia, Pekora and Senchou were both breaking down while trying to answer questions while Noel and Flare were very matter of fact about the whole situation. I don't even remember Watame crying over it and she cries over everything. It really gave off the impression that aside from a few people who were close to Rushia as well as Haachama, she wasn't really well liked with the JP members. That's my impression at any rate.
As for the topic at hand, yeah, with 2020 being the golden age for Hololive and where it seriously started to pick up steam, I can imagine how humble the beginnings were when fighting to get thousands were very difficult instead of millions like we see now. Getting millions of subscribers is very difficult on youtube; its very rare to see a streamer make it this far. Plus the girls are super busy to the point of hardly having free time. I can get what she means when she's reminiscencing about simpler times.
@@Kaimine08you are reading way too much into it. Just because they didnt in front of the viewers doesn't necessarily mean they dislike her.
@@Arkamui well because Mikochi is transferred to Hololive in December 2018, making the 2nd gen (Aqua, Shion, Ayame, Choco, and Subaru) technically her senpai in Hololive (August-September 2018). The generation that is closer to Mikochi is Hololive Gamers (Fubuki, Mio, Okayu, Korone) which debuted close to her, she is a really good friend with all the members of Gamers, but the most well known is MiKorone bonds (which is still going strong even nowadays).
@@Kaimine08 rushia was just pretty detached from the rest of hololive, she would often just kinda exist in her own world. So the other members probably didn't know her very well.
Gen 3 is so perfect, when its complete, i love each other reaction
2020 was the best year of my life thanks to Hololive. I could follow what every single member was doing. More than an agency or coworkers, they all felt like a family. Fewer members than today but they used to do a lot of things together. Was really fun. And of course, we had kaichou and Ruchan.
I really love today's Hololive, don't get me wrong, but Hololive in 2020 had that something special and irreplaceable.
Yeah I totally understand what danchou is saying.
2020 Hololive was the Golden era. It was really something special.
I won’t get you wrong that badge on your profile say more than enough, 2020 just have special place in our heart
Wish i had been there, but i only fell in in 2021. Must have been special❤
Yeah at the end of 2020 covid and stay at home really brings me down to the ground, then I began to search for "japanese vtuber live streamer" and first stumbling into Pikamee, then Pekora with Moona in minecraft, then rest is history
The members felt more close knitted and have more free time to hang out together or do an off-collab, remembered the Holo-house episode, or many instances of impromptu collab, like when Korone gathered everyone still online in Minecraft to celebrate Miko coming back from long break (Sora, Mel, Botan, Moona, Flare). It is those heartwarming moments that burned in to our memories.
I still think about those days often! Some of my favorite times watching!
It's kinda make sense for dancho to feel this way since she only joined hololive to making friends and not working alone anymore
I also miss those times when I welcomed new years with a lot of friends… then everyone got older, far away, busy with their own stuff
Nostalgia hits like a runaway freighter. I get it Noel, sometimes I wish it could be done like it was in the olden days. Good times, good memories all the same though.
Man I remember back in the day it was RE 2: Remake that leads me to find clips of Vtubers. I remember it was a compilation of both Holo and Niji, it was years ago even Gibara was still streaming. Vtubing has really come a long way since then.
People may call out the growth of the company or other things for this, but things always change at some point.
The best we can do is to find new fun niches. There is always a way!
Everyone is busy these days it's like you know a gaming friend TwT
This is what strange sometimes with memories.
Sometimes what makes us cry is not the horrible memories but the Happiest one.
And in contrast, we sometimes can talk about our horrible and terrible memories like a comedy and laugh at it.
When we experience happy time, we laugh and smile, but when we experience horrible and sad experience, we cry or sometimes even shouting and throwing a fit.
But when it's time to reminisce and remembering what we've been experiencing, sometimes our reaction is flipped entirely, crying while remembering happy memories, and smiling remembering the horrible and tough one.
2020 hololive was the peak hololive fight me
I hope that hololive keeps being talent focused. By that I mean, that they care for the talents first, as that will still bring monetary success for their annoying investors. I do hope they find that balance.
They bought a gigantic state of the art studio in downtown tokyo for a group that works from home 95% of the time.... I don't know why people think Cover is their friend. it is a corporation. It is pretty ridiculous that they have to buy their own computers and don't get any sort of pay balancing during slow period... one of the new members was complaining about how they only have a few dollars in their bank to survive.
@@Idiomatick Tell me you know nothing about Hololive without telling me you know nothing about Hololive.
@@Idiomatick Wow I didn't know a company should provide money for their employee outside of their salary and benefits. Can we ask Hololive to sponsor us a home too? I want a house if possible, and a room with the ultimate gaming rig! Let' go Hololive! Hurray free stuff!
@@Edelweiss1102 you see these kind of people from time to time, they're not in for the talents they only seeks drama, well at least not as worse as when the Mano incident happens, been in this rabbit hole for 4 years you can tell all kind of people are attracted to Hololive, and not everyone come with good intentions.
@@Idiomatick there is no business out there that will give you an advance on your paycheck, unless it is a sign on bonus. those themselves are rare in any industry, unless you are already at the top of your game. No other Idol company provides computers and those types of things. Don't get me started on their direct competitor.
I experience something like that.
the bonds that created from hardship.
the progress to accept one and another.
they know how good and bad I am as I know theirs.
in the final day before graduation, they feels more like family than just friends.
I know why they cry when graduated, since I did the same.
the memories really precious~
life just like an elevator, like Ina said.
The before times when none of them thought this would take off and being and idol for fun would just be a fun side hobby. Late 2019 I think Gen 4 was just debuting.
Money can't buy happiness. Sometimes.
what i miss are the collabs before..they had big group collabs very often not just Minecraft & Ark but also the english lessons, the call ins, the kindergarten one was funny, the asacoco, identifying the real marine, that one stream with Kanata, Coco, & Ui Mama, The streams where they just call other members randomly just to joke around, the 3D streams where they just goof around & a lot more. I miss those days.
I feel her.
hate when others are sad😞
man i remember watching 3rd and 4th gen debut. both hololive and the community were small and tight knit. A lot of content (both official and community made) were split between youtube and bilibili, which actually had larger growth at the time for hololive. I remember the yt milestone celebration streams being between like 30k-40k-50k subs etc (which honestly is still a lot). I'm probably wrong but I think Fubuki had the biggest holo yt channel at like 150k subs (?) around Pekora's debut. There were also very few English TL clippers so it was mostly JP bros and a small sprinkle of overseas bros who discovered the TL clips or reuploads of bilibili edits.
A lot of clippers in YT back then actually from TW and CN, it's really a pity that politics ruined the fandom, and even cost an arm and leg for Hololive as they completely leave Chinese markets for good.
@@nietzchanty for information! back then I wasn't as informed about the community so I didn't know that! it really is unfortunate. all I remember were the troves of content/edits made by the CN and TW bros on bilibili
I miss the Asacoco morning news with the Luna “sickly sweet English” lessons. And the old Peko bilibili memes like Peko Quest. That was also when Haato was building her minecraft treehouse.
As someone whos been watching since 2019 i agree
While this might sound insensetive, I really miss 2020 when pandemic happens. For extreme introverts like me, that was unironically the most 'social' I've ever been with a lot of people, even with randoms. It was literally the best time of my life. There's always at least 5 people in discord all the time, hololive was booming in popularity, free games here and there. Everything was so fun despite the pandemic hardship.
I get you dude. I also understand that I can't revel in this cuz people suffered during the time.
I had a corpse crush my knee leaving permanent damage and my house burned down in 2020 but to each their own 😂😂😂
If this makes you feel better, you're not alone. I'm also among those that enjoyed the pandemic. Working from home for 2 years was the healthiest thing that happened to me. I haven't visited the doctor for 3 years now thanks to the pandemic. Depressing news on tv, body counts rising everyday, 5 of my immediate neighbors dead, everybody fearing the outside, but i ain't gonna lie, i was having the time of my life.
The only thing that i hated during that time was japan shutting down completely.
I loved being shut in too
God, agreed so much. Work was lessened, no commute time, no need to interact with some random humans, closer to family, etc. Pandemic was the best time of my entire life.
In the wise words of Korone: The everyday life you take for granted will one day crumble.
“I never really had the opportunity to live in my youth.”
That resonates a lot to me.
Sadly this happens to every growing company. Man those days were super fun.
Old hololive just fucking hits different... I almost forgot that Rushia used to say Nanodesu..
Awww~! Noel !!! 😭😭😭😭
I was about to burst into tears at 0:15 as well; we all long for moments of our past...
Well... She at least has the privilege to reminisce about it. Newer can only dream of it
I think its important to know that companies have to grow as stagnation will lead to fans leaving.
It's just really busy nowadays. So many recordings, sponsorship, lessons, events. It's hard to find a free time together.
No wonder it was so small and cramped to Noel, when you put her and Choco in the same room drinking it will be like that, I’m sure Kanata and Suisei would have felt like the room was huge
I do miss that time too. Gen 3 where who I started watching, especially marine
Anything comes with a price that you must pay.
For anyone who want to know, at 00:19 she tried to sing Kanpai by Tsuyoshi Nagabuchi.
Seishun Archive suddenly playing in my head.
Haha those were carefree times... 😢
hololive actually boomed during covid when most are inside and
not just hololive but content creators esp those that centered around among us and such.
it's like with the mass mayhem covid epidemic did to the whole world, they were like the beam of hope we have :D
Really, these girls hard work really paid off, they now have bigger studio, Hololive name become world phenomenon, all this because girls and Motoaki Tanigoo's hard work.....so it isn't strange for Shirogane Noel suddenly reminiscing the past ^^
I’ve only started to really watch hololive seriously this past year. I knew about it since gen 4s debut but I think they’ve come a long way. We have a singing shark gorl and a scizo who uses scissors to eat now. I think if there wasn’t a huge language barrier that the friendships among branches would be a lot closer.
So danchou is the type of person who cries when drunk at a certain point.
If there is someone she should contact and make plans together do such an event, her own genmate Marine would definitely love that idea too.
Many people feel this when they were a part of something small that later experiences exponential growth. It is hard to keep that feeling of camaraderie and morale, even as things get more successful on the whole. I also feel like my office has lost its feeling of community since COVID and people working from home most of the time. Then again, it's not really the job of the employer to provide a social life for their employees. However, since it is legitimately hard to have a "real life" as a full-time streamer, I think corporate Hololive should think about these type of issues, if they don't want more of their talent to burn out.
She's having an Amami Haruka moment just like in the anime.
Looks like Danchou is experiencing some strong Nostalgia
I can sympathize. Hololive is after all a company that recruits likeable talents, and people to support them. Its an outright shame they dont get enough opportunities to mingle and socialize with each other. You may say their lives like fes etc they get the chance. But even then they’re not all present at the same time from what i can tell. I can’t even imagine how much a new years eve with all of Hololive both talent and staff on the roof of the new office or something would mean for their morale.
I'm am sorry to hear that for her. But I promise I'll find her and take care of her
Idol M@ster anime ss1 moment
I have a similar experience to this. Our extended family used to live in one house, like all 12 of us. When we finally got a bit of ease financially and half of us moved out, damn I felt so sad. The house never felt so empty before.
Even if it was cramped, it was just absolutely so much fun. This is why I still prefer local games rather than online. discord kinda made online a bit closer to the feel of local games tho
I miss ruchan
Ngl Losing rushia it's really hard to accept even till now,.i still miss her 😢 gen 3rd holojp never perfect without her,...
Tambourine club too.😢
@@shinodamasaru7945 "HEY! HEY! HEY! Tambourine Club!" 😭
1:02 this is the real reason 😅
The Hololive's golden age: between the 3rd and 4th gen debut and the saddest and terrible "Taiwan incident": mid 2019-october 2020. Those happy days... will no return.😢
Bochi moment
You need to let her go, danchou. Her accident wasn't your fault
Oh yeah lately while the Collab more often now than back of days, now days Holomem have their own individual project they only interact when they have Collab together.
Could someone explain to me in detail why she says she didn't live her youth to the fullest?
I don't watch Danchou too much, but if my memory serves me correctly, she mentioned in the past that she just didn't make a lot of friends in school, and she began working from a relatively young age I think, so she had less time doing teenage/youth stuff. Nothing too serious about it. I think it is something many people relate to (including me).
As they grow bigger they get to spend less time together. Lots of off the screen activities like lessons, sponsorship meetings etc. Look no further than Kaela whose total stream time got lower as she got more busy with lives and recording.
A lot of rehearsals probably, if we're talking about recent times. She's in JP preparing for her 3D debut after all. But she'll probably go back to the usual streaming routines once she's back in her streaming environment back at home.
@@SenseofNoneYT she's big enough now that she probably will get more projects now and it will cut through her regular schedule.
WTF Japan still has COVID restrictions?
Disease doesn't just disappear just because people wanted to, that being said this is probably more of the company policy as some of their talents still getting Covid, just an extra safety measure, after all Covid could manifest the worst symptoms if the patients is physically and mentally exhausted, which is most of their conditions when big events is happening.
Covid got resurrected again there??
wait wut are there still alotta restrictions even now?
Nah it is just that they are all busier
It’s better now cause we have HoloEN
I'm really miss that evangelion's scream and butterfly...
It s not like anyone else aside rushia grad , mafumafu fuckerr
And this is why COVID sucks.😢
Yes, but on the other hand it can't be denied that covid helped Hololive grow. So many people stuck at home discovered vtubers and Hololive and fell into that rabbit hole.
I cant believe I have to say this... I really hate this but... Hololive or the whole vtuber industries benefit alot from COVID, during the pandemic, many people like even the non-otaku who has no knowledge about this field of anime/vtuber has got in to the rabbit hole, that made Hololive/Vtubers more popular like sky rocket real high because of it.
But yea, COVID sucks, but alas we cant turn back time... I miss Rushia too 😔
Covid actually brought Hololive the needed jump to get it to this point. Miko, Pekora, and Korone exploded during the lockdown.
@@Koronesuki1313 and Fubuki too
COVID itself was bad, of course, but it gave Hololive an incredible boost in popularity by giving time to people to watch them. And I really enjoyed that whole year of free time and relaxation. I miss 2020.
If only Rushia was more mentally stable she wouldnt have gotten booted
You're not wrong but you don't gotta say it like that lmao
I have no beef with rushia but honestly
She does have serious issues
I believe in second chances
Such as how i stuck with Jeff Hardy as much as his brother Matt
Despite former's serious addictions that got him in trouble
Hopefully rushia will too even though mental illness honestly has cases far worse than any physical illegal drug out there
original gen 3 is like a dream team, the closest comparison would be maybe original gen 4, or holox
The closest one to compare is nepolabo imo
@@taka-tin nepolabo is incomplete, we never had the chance to see the full power of gen 5..
@@taka-tinAnything close to it, even before debut, 1 person leaves and is considered a failure.
I'm sure that they still talk with "her 💚" off stream, it's not like the company forbid them to meet or see her, I'm sure they visit her home to catch up on some stuff probably about what they're doing and making sure she's alright, it's heartless to think Cover would not let Gen 3 meet her off stream because in that time, they can do whatever they want and the same goes with other people who graduated/terminated and still have contact with
Just remember Rushia brought it upon herself. They would’ve never fired her if she had handled things professionally. Now she’s the Vshojo that no one wants to collaborate with.
Imo tho, Hololive is getting too many talents and it's affecting the seniors,...I know that they built another branch like Dev_is, but there will be a point where their talents are rapidly graduating or taking a long break just to settle the mindset again,...
It has been like two years since the last gen joined , it still not rapid at all
@@YourLocalHoshiyomiWait what? Holox's debut feels like just a month ago. There's no way it's been 2 years
@@maitanat1657 maybe don't suck at math then
Hololive literally hasn't gotten a new gen for over a year between ID3 and EN Advent. And EN and JP both haven't seen a new gen in nearly 2 years. Ninisanji is the one shitting out new gens every other week (and graduating them again). It's normal that with the brand growing and more people on board, things change and it may not be to the liking of some, but I think you can't blame Holo for getting too many talents too fast.
Hate cover, love the girls
simple as
Do you actually have anything to hate Cover for now lmao or are you just spouting shit
Why? If you hate Cover then, do you also hate Yagoo?
What's wrong with cover? It's just that the company got bigger and the girls got busier.
It doesn't have the same feel as before but the girls are also making truckloads more money than before.
That line must be come from Rushia's blind fans huh ? not surprising lol
must be hard for Cover, despite doing well in these year and keep pushing & supporting those talents to the point they're buying and building the bigger studios and yet still got blamed nonetheless
I love cover and the girls 😂
These new gens better be thankful to them. They literally start off with 500k subs for doing nothing.
Everyone know tight r̶o̶o̶m̶ is good
It often happens scenario, when your house is small, things feel in harmony, and everyone is together but once you decide to enlarge it, that feeling is gone