I really appreciate you taking the time to change the title of the vid, went back and saw it changed and watch the whole vid! I hope you had a wonderful holidays!
i swear i thought of the same thing, it's almost as if people should've waited him to be released and then judge him other than crying that it's not tifa
Noone asked for him, yet everyone plays him, because he is very braindead and gives people free wins. Dont underestimate tier whoring. And anyone saying Clyde is mid tier or worse has been brainwashed by mainman
I should probably clarify Phi’s cautious optimism doesn’t push him into this category because he was at least willing to see how things played out vs the initial “Tifa should have been here” opinion
@@DetrasDeTiImbecil interesting that you call others brainwashed yet failed to make a single argument. Literally no relevant player who played him and isn’t stuck in the “he has a sword” bs, is saying that he’s a high tier character. You’d have to heavily downplay the top tier characters to make that argument. Well.. at least it would be a better attempt instead of calling the vast majority of people stupid
Same thing as it was with Noctis. Everyone was crying about how he should be in soul calibur, how he’s broken, how he’s stupid. Then it turned out just like with any Tekken character, you have to learn the matchup. Then everyone realized he was mid tier at best and everyone calmed down. Especially because people had fun with him as well.
We were the FIRST Clive to win a tournament! And yeah day 2 clive was definitely not perfect, I was just doing what I felt was right 😅. But appreciate the analysis and glad you all appreciate the DRINK! #1 CLIVE 😎
Lol it's not JoeCrush it's Daddyking. Please make videos about him Phi he plays very "troll-y" but somehow can hold his own even pros like Edge, LowHigh and Knee
Don’t wanna seem like a hater but all Clive’s seem to play the same for me, Joe is a fan favorite of mine due to him repping Texas (I live there) just letting y’all know I’m not hating.
You just answered your question - the opponent gets tossed across the screen. Joecrush used d1+2 to enhance oki. Except a couple moments df3 string would've killed, this was just a brain fart moment
I love clive and think he's cool and has a lotta fun stuff. It just sucks at mid/low ranks his best tools just incentivize people camp the whole match.
My favorite Clive moment so far is watching people mald about him. “He can force me to block forever with f2,1 1,1, stupid braindead character too op!!!” Just crouch the 1,1 and punish bro. “… you think its punishable?!?!? Mainman brainwashed you!!!”. Actually hilarious
f2,1 can be crouched but it's better to block because if second hit of f2,2 hits the third is guaranteed to Heat Engage / launch on Heat Dash and he also gets a +6 mixup if he chooses to go to PHS You can't duck 1,1, it jails on block
@@nightinhawk They're making fun of people for not knowing what they're talking about when they, in fact, don't know what they're talking about. Shocking.
My only frustration/jealousy with Clive as a Vic main is why was it deemed necessary to shorten Vic’s power crush when you could duck it. Clive can almost power from across the street! 😂
You can easily punish Clive on block at -13. Victor’s is safe. WAY too good, definitely needed the nerf, and should get nerfed again and brought to -10.
misinformation alert or maybe you are click baiting, but joe crush isn't the first in the world. i was gonna watch the vid until the title is just so wrong. he is the first in NA tho. Daddyking is first in the world.
Hate everything about this damn character in Tekken smh. Just for ruining Tekken that FFXVI DLC expansion 😂 Great analysis as always though, Phi One thing I did want to comment on though was you were talking about the risk associated with the df121 string and how df12, even if it isn't ducked, is launch punishable). But isn't that also a stance transition that puts him at +6 into mixups? Can't think of a reason someone would stop at df12 and NOT transition into pressure.
This is sick to see. I hate fighting this character at the moment. People talk like Clive is always going to stay OP BUT he will be patched. He gets away with too much people Spamming the double forward slash. Extremely hard to punish especially when I am reacting with 10 frame punishes. But his combos are so clean to see, him being the OP character and whoop others instead of me is one of the best things to watch lol.
He got the guest character treatment, and he is very strong so people can easily pick him up.. fortunately i have literally never saw a clive online after the first day, so far xb
@ruikiri I salute you. I have only beaten my brothers Clive when he was learning him. I can't beat this character yet.. (haven't fully labbed majority of his moves.
I really dislike Clive’s design. Everything from the aesthetic to the gameplay makes me wonder how any long time Tekken player would even give this guy the time of day aside from labbing him.
Because he is a sick character with a cool fighting style and design that is unique within the game. Something besides another karate man or waifu character with ridiculous hurtboxes
@@mobamouse3616 The other characters are more than just karate men and waifus 😂. If that's just what you personally reduce them down to, then fair enough.
As a fan of your videos, and I may be alone in this, but I suggest dropping the intro and jumping directly into the analysis. Maybe start with a clip showing a high point from the whole video. Again, love your videos ❤
Bruh, you’re still hopping between channels to cry about Tekken after crying on level up your game’s channel about how it annoys you that he cries about Tekken? Get a life, seriously, there is no shot its healthy that you’re on every Tekken video on release to cry
@j.i.nthenobody54 I hated Noctis too, Clive simply doesn't fit. And yes I know there is literal Devils and Yoshimitsu exists. If he was in soul calibur 7 I wouldn't complain, I just want legacy characters like Julia, Armored King and Marduk. Clive makes me actively not want to play. And I've actually been a defender of T8 since launch. Not even a ff7 fan but Tifa would have been so much better imo.
Sorry my information was inaccurate! Daddyking was first Clive in the world to hit GoD, Joecrush was the first in NA
Joe had the first tournament win
I really appreciate you taking the time to change the title of the vid, went back and saw it changed and watch the whole vid! I hope you had a wonderful holidays!
"How do you rescue yourself from this position, Lili's going into heat and pushing you into the wall?" why would i want out of that position?
Because she is a minor?
@@sirm.a.r.s4640 she is?
@@sirm.a.r.s4640 people forgot these characters ages a while ago, I’m not surprised to see shit like this
@@sirm.a.r.s4640 wasnt she 16 back when she first came out?
*17 years old*
Ngl, it’s hilarious some people went from “Why is Clive here” to “He’s…he’s kinda good”
i swear i thought of the same thing, it's almost as if people should've waited him to be released and then judge him other than crying that it's not tifa
Noone asked for him, yet everyone plays him, because he is very braindead and gives people free wins. Dont underestimate tier whoring.
And anyone saying Clyde is mid tier or worse has been brainwashed by mainman
I should probably clarify Phi’s cautious optimism doesn’t push him into this category because he was at least willing to see how things played out vs the initial “Tifa should have been here” opinion
@@DetrasDeTiImbecil interesting that you call others brainwashed yet failed to make a single argument. Literally no relevant player who played him and isn’t stuck in the “he has a sword” bs, is saying that he’s a high tier character. You’d have to heavily downplay the top tier characters to make that argument. Well.. at least it would be a better attempt instead of calling the vast majority of people stupid
Same thing as it was with Noctis. Everyone was crying about how he should be in soul calibur, how he’s broken, how he’s stupid. Then it turned out just like with any Tekken character, you have to learn the matchup. Then everyone realized he was mid tier at best and everyone calmed down. Especially because people had fun with him as well.
We were the FIRST Clive to win a tournament! And yeah day 2 clive was definitely not perfect, I was just doing what I felt was right 😅. But appreciate the analysis and glad you all appreciate the DRINK! #1 CLIVE 😎
Great going, also I believe Ninjakiller is among the top clive players in the world rn
Congrats brother
Winning with a day one character no one knows how to fight against isn't impressive, but maybe that's just me?
1:38 WE GOT "the Drink" in Tekken before GTA 6....
i thought daddyking was the 1st to hit GoD on clive. when Joe hit it he went to check the rankings and Daddyking (korean youtuber) was already there
joecrush the goat
That’s true. Daddyking was first. Also becoming GoD in Korea is definitely more impressive than in NA.
Shhh, Phidx needs to make content.
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@@creeper20ps should always assume it's a mistake, not intentional. it's great content either way tho
He might not be piloting Jack, but he’s still got that Jack energy. Like a brick wall with a gun
damn JoeCrush's Clive looks like a beverage of sorts
The Trunks fit on Clive is so good
I saw a Robin one today. Now that was badass
3:37 *ultra instinct theme*
I don't get it. Maybe wrong timestamp?
Lol it's not JoeCrush it's Daddyking. Please make videos about him Phi he plays very "troll-y" but somehow can hold his own even pros like Edge, LowHigh and Knee
Ngl Phi's haircut pretty clean ngl sheeesh🔥
Calm down dawg
Brother is doing HCB's and QCF's on it
The lag on that stream was painful
Great analysis, as always!
ooohh i thought it was Momodog who came in as first GoD player! guess i was wrong haha!
hopin to see PhiDX Clive vs Knee Bryan on the future
Makes sense that the joe vods are framey lmao
But Daddyking's clive is number 1
Daddyking is no.1 clive player in the world
I hope this is just a laggy vod cause if i had to play like this all the time id be pissed lol
joecrush's vods are always super laggy
@@mr-bipen6738 it’s just the vod. The TNS stream has no lag
He's quite good, by keeping his range as optimally as possible, while me every time I got my distance right, a random bullshit always happens.
you must become the random bullshit
Climiguel caballero rojosfield
Daddy king is the first god of destruction not joe crush
it took until the last bit of the video but i finally realized thats a trunks fit he's rocking with clive (:
Daddyking??
I think Phi ignores him cus he's korean lol
Don’t wanna seem like a hater but all Clive’s seem to play the same for me, Joe is a fan favorite of mine due to him repping Texas (I live there) just letting y’all know I’m not hating.
3:11 I'm not the only one who mashes down 4 after koing with it LOL
I think he's Leroy 1.0 levels of broken
Lmfao not JoeCrush!
Why does no one use the Clive guaranteed hit combo finisher? A grounded opponent gets 2 hits, 35 damage, and thrown across the screen.
You just answered your question - the opponent gets tossed across the screen. Joecrush used d1+2 to enhance oki. Except a couple moments df3 string would've killed, this was just a brain fart moment
i thought daddy king is the best no.1 Clive player
Clive Rosfield is the GOAT 🗣️🗣️
Havent watched you or played tekken in a while but i gotta see what the best clive looks like lol
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NinjaKilla doesn't really use F 1+2 either.
The MOGGING has begun
Maybe it's too early to assume who the world's No. 1 Clive user is.
Is that Trunks vs Mai???
#1 Clive in the world and it’s joe crush on day one 😪
I love clive and think he's cool and has a lotta fun stuff. It just sucks at mid/low ranks his best tools just incentivize people camp the whole match.
First win in a tournament...
I really like this style of content!
So what's the word on Clive so far? Hearing alot of hes mid 😢 i don't have time for mid no matter how fun/cool
You should have background music
BOBA PLUSH AT THE START
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Why you can't participate in any taken 8 😢😢
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great vid 😀
My favorite Clive moment so far is watching people mald about him. “He can force me to block forever with f2,1 1,1, stupid braindead character too op!!!” Just crouch the 1,1 and punish bro. “… you think its punishable?!?!? Mainman brainwashed you!!!”. Actually hilarious
F2,1,1,1? Am I crazy or is this not a combo at all
that mainman hate is crazy
1,2 is the one that’s punishable, what they on about
f2,1 can be crouched but it's better to block because if second hit of f2,2 hits the third is guaranteed to Heat Engage / launch on Heat Dash and he also gets a +6 mixup if he chooses to go to PHS
You can't duck 1,1, it jails on block
@@nightinhawk They're making fun of people for not knowing what they're talking about when they, in fact, don't know what they're talking about. Shocking.
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Ki charge? Nah
U should analyze Ninjakillaz Clive gameplay
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joe goated
I hope they nerf the power crush fist on clive. that shit beats too many options and the range + damage makes king look like low dmg
the frame hurts to watch
I LOVE CLIVE HES COOL
you cant be a Clive main and not use b1+2 at least once per round
Come on bro, what are these drip. This is the 1st Time i see such a badly dressed Lily🤣🤣
Playing at 28 fps every 5 seconds at 111ms. Yikes 💀
Nah Ninjakillas Clive is way more optimal than this, you should watch his Clive gameplay
MOG squad
Anyone in the comments bringing up that subject are funnnyyyyyyy 😂😂😂
I thought Momo was first
Daddyking from korea was first, then Joe Crush
@ I was on stream with Momo, he got it in like 8 hrs after release
My only frustration/jealousy with Clive as a Vic main is why was it deemed necessary to shorten Vic’s power crush when you could duck it. Clive can almost power from across the street! 😂
You can easily punish Clive on block at -13. Victor’s is safe. WAY too good, definitely needed the nerf, and should get nerfed again and brought to -10.
@ Thanks for the info. I was thinking that doing Clive’s crush at a distance kept him safe.
@The_Buff_Guy it's-14 actually, so even more unsafe, Bryan can launch it for example
@@alexanderdenison2950 this is true. Mistyped. Thanks.
@The_Buff_Guy of course, gotta make sure these Clive players aren't getting away with anything 😄
I think DaddyKing got #1 first Joecrush got it first in NA
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misinformation alert or maybe you are click baiting, but joe crush isn't the first in the world. i was gonna watch the vid until the title is just so wrong. he is the first in NA tho. Daddyking is first in the world.
Okay Phi we see the cut 💯🔥
joecrush is always number one with his mains , but very average playstyle in tournament
nmaD
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Damn
I believe NinjaKiller is exceptional Clive on planet earth rn
Wow a trashy character wins what a GD surprise
Hate everything about this damn character in Tekken smh. Just for ruining Tekken that FFXVI DLC expansion 😂
Great analysis as always though, Phi
One thing I did want to comment on though was you were talking about the risk associated with the df121 string and how df12, even if it isn't ducked, is launch punishable). But isn't that also a stance transition that puts him at +6 into mixups? Can't think of a reason someone would stop at df12 and NOT transition into pressure.
Damm
nice haircut phi
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This is sick to see. I hate fighting this character at the moment. People talk like Clive is always going to stay OP BUT he will be patched. He gets away with too much people Spamming the double forward slash. Extremely hard to punish especially when I am reacting with 10 frame punishes. But his combos are so clean to see, him being the OP character and whoop others instead of me is one of the best things to watch lol.
He got the guest character treatment, and he is very strong so people can easily pick him up.. fortunately i have literally never saw a clive online after the first day, so far xb
@ruikiri I salute you. I have only beaten my brothers Clive when he was learning him. I can't beat this character yet.. (haven't fully labbed majority of his moves.
I really dislike Clive’s design. Everything from the aesthetic to the gameplay makes me wonder how any long time Tekken player would even give this guy the time of day aside from labbing him.
Because he is a sick character with a cool fighting style and design that is unique within the game. Something besides another karate man or waifu character with ridiculous hurtboxes
@@mobamouse3616 The other characters are more than just karate men and waifus 😂. If that's just what you personally reduce them down to, then fair enough.
DaddyKing was first. A Korean LoD holds more weight than an American LoD
As a fan of your videos, and I may be alone in this, but I suggest dropping the intro and jumping directly into the analysis. Maybe start with a clip showing a high point from the whole video.
Again, love your videos ❤
Clive is broken and easy as pie. Buttons from full screen when u want to approach and he dashes n your face for a free mixup ..BROKEN
Not our issue that you have the reaction time of a dead sloth and you can’t react to his dash attacks
@@melvinjohnsoniii4563 do you know how many times I’ve been jabbed out of PHX stance? That shit is reactable
You can literally jab and throw him out of his dash. Try practicing instead if crying.
@AnnaLajtos bet send clips of YOU doing it everytime on reacting loser .. yall all are bots
@UtlawBroine send clips of YOU doing it on reaction I’ll wait. U never will
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As a Jack player this just makes me sad
Why? Joe still mains Jack
@@mwah7737 because going from Chad Jack to soy anime boy is not a good thing. Glad he sticks with Jack but still
@@666slateran666 Clive isn't a soy anime boy, that's really funny to read that comment.
@occiderisaethiopissa3702 compared to Jack he is
Bruh, you’re still hopping between channels to cry about Tekken after crying on level up your game’s channel about how it annoys you that he cries about Tekken? Get a life, seriously, there is no shot its healthy that you’re on every Tekken video on release to cry
Clyde is so boring lmao. 😴 good thing VF is coming back and there is street fighter and Guilty Gear. Wake me up next season
How tf you gonna hate fantastical shit and love GG
cry harder
@j.i.nthenobody54 I hated Noctis too, Clive simply doesn't fit. And yes I know there is literal Devils and Yoshimitsu exists. If he was in soul calibur 7 I wouldn't complain, I just want legacy characters like Julia, Armored King and Marduk. Clive makes me actively not want to play. And I've actually been a defender of T8 since launch. Not even a ff7 fan but Tifa would have been so much better imo.
@@666slateran666 ah yes, the other character with magic shit but she has a hand to hand martial art instead of a sword based one, so it’s fine
@j.i.nthenobody54 yup, fits better than sword man with a dog. This is becoming smash bros all over again.
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