Jun is the most fun character that I found in tekken 8. You can play her in so many ways - very poky and thight, or very cheesy. you can play very offensive or defensive. Utilize just a few moves or abuse the numerous strings and cancels that she has. She's not overpowered that can feel dumb to play, nor she's weak that you could feel limited with her tools. She has just everything you need to play a good tekken, and can be very creative the way you play
21:20 "Uhnnnn! He died!" Phi's reactions are the best 😂 As a long-time fan of Jun, I would say that she's pretty consistently slept on. In T8, she has a lot going for her, while not as explosively scary as some other characters. I'm curious as to what new moves she'll be getting in the winter update.
A dumb but effective way to use the full crouch game is to make people afraid of genjitsu stance first. Then you can just cancel that stance into crouch (F3+4 D~), also known as the Jun shimmy. The utility of genjitsu which is good for nice single hit damage is and beating lows and throws is now replaced with the threat of counter hit launches, a launching throw, and more string cheese maybe with transitions (ex: ws1,4,2 for the former and ws1,1f~/b~ for the latter) The more transitions she gets into for free, the easier it is to abuse character knowledge as theres so much she can do at every opportunity. Just take the stance pressure one stance at a time. Or you can just cancan. It always works eventually.
Oh! Some things for you 😀 - Jun has a low crush launcher on counter in u+f 3 - you can go into a scrappy follow-up with d+f 4, which is also a counter hit launcher - f 3,2,1 is a decent extension for wall carry - if you land ff 3,3+4 or just the 3+4, then uf+2 is guaranteed
I'm so glad I was there to see you do Phi Plays Jun I think this will help me better open up my opponents. Hopefully I can get through purple ranks a bit more comfortably now
True true, i also been paying attention. A lot of ppl rely on strings, thing is when ppl know it you’re left with nothing to attack. Doing plus frames into pokes seems like a good way to play. I’m scared now i will fight more solid jun players lol.
Another frametrap Jun has is GEN 4 into d3+4, GEN 4 is +4 on block and homing so you can get guaranteed can-cans even if the opponent is trying to do evasion. If you guys want a different wall combo but aren't keen on Jun's life cost with u+3,4 > MIA 2, you can do db+1,1,1+2 but there's less damage. Thanks for the vid Phi!
You should explore her more, she could be that pocket character you were looking for since your intuition with her is great. What I find with her, and this can be both a good and bad thing, is that her entire move list works as a complete package. Its good because all my options are covered but it also means that if I forget a move exists such as f4, I’m missing out on a big part of the gameplay and immediately become weaker. She takes a lot of practice in that sense, a lot of situational awareness, but it’s so satisfying when it comes together.
well, i learned a few things, one im not using either of her strong points properly, i am like no proper poking, and no FC mixup game. both of em i will need to implement.
Stopping by and saying my challenge arc with Jin is actually been so effective I’m actually so proud of myself! Ranked up to Tenryu only 2 days from not playing ranked for so long! I literally couldn’t sleep when I was so close to Tenryu, like that was the first time in my life playing a fighting game and my determination made me a better player and for a minute there I had a flow chart! And I’ll be honest watching your red ranks video helped me so much! Whenever I hit Mighty Ruler I’ll be back!
Imma be real you have the best coaching ever bro you know all the right things too say and I appreciate you taking the time to give us knowledge to grow bruh fr
Her crouching d/b 1+2 throw is also a launcher. Its great against people that like to spam armor. Also her f, 2+3 punch parry is a launcher. You can sometimes use it on characters with slow strings. Like for instance Asuka b,2,1 the second hit comes out slow enough that it can be parried.
Don’t sleep on back 1. Slow to start, but will do a lot of damage on counter hit and is cancelable into crouch block so you can swap to a mid or bait out an attack for a counterattack or parry. This will also help you naturally flow into your low set ups that you were talking about :-)
YEEEEAH PP MAMA KAZAMA!!! Great video as always Phi! I feel like I kind of hit a brick wall when I got to Fujin with her, but this video genuinely helped a lot, now I know to lean more into her poking game and adding in more lows
Btw phi, If you want a good combo ender mid-screen, you can run up after tornado, go into genjitsu stance (f3+4), and do genjitsu 3,2. Make sure to delay the 2. That will flip the opponent face down mid screen. From there you can 50/50 with genjitsu 1 or just ff1+2. At the wall, you can do ff3, 3+4 to do a ground spike and the opponent will also be face down. More mix ups from there.
An advanced version of the upforward 3 you can do is instead of down 1+2, do down back 4 (o button) and hold the down button so jun remains grounded. Then do rising 2 to uppercut the opponent and then do a combo from there. Slightly harder execution wise but does more damage. Down 1+2's main advantage is being able to do it regardless of positioning if you sidestep an attack and use up forward 3
PhiDX: "I'm not a Jun expert" Game: "This is the first time you've been promoted to Raijin, so your other character whose online rankings were below Garyu have been promoted to Garyu."
Also, prior to T8, Jun could CanCan off of her 1, 1; now she (and Asuka) just get a REALLLY SLOWWW LOW SWEEEEP instead. It's been one of the harder adjustments to make for me. I'm surprised you've made no utility of her db + 4, 4, 4, 3; it's literally her version of HellSweep and will chain off a neutral 1 easily. DO NOT CANCAN FROM MIDSCREEN.
if this ever gets an ep 2 something i learned recently is jun has a ws 1, 4, 2 string which i believe is a low ender hit than a ws 1, 4, 1+2 which is a mid ender string its just another tool to have along with her croutch game (:
Waiting for the Leroy video, since I play him and want to see how Phi would pilot him, but also since he said Leroy is one of his knowledge weakpoints when coaching Max. So it will be cool to see him figure out how to use him, and also allow him to learn how to fight him.
It’s nice to see someone cover Jun, I find her kit and play style really interesting in this game so I’m always happy to see her getting more attention
I hope we get a PP Lili. I would love to see how you started with her and eventually developed a mastery to even select her as a potential tourney character!!
Phi i dont know if you would be interested, but id love to watch videos on like your tier list, and how you would go through balancing them. It would be even better if you got some other tekken players on to provide their opinions too.
How is he always stumbling upon such garbage players in ranked? LMAO. How is his opponent Raijin with King? He's more like Garyu. It's insane to me. Who are these people. When I'm playing ranked people on Fujin are like on Tekken God or higher. This King was eating up everything LOL.
Feel like Clive is so good at punishing Hopkick style moves with his range. Ex. My uf3 with Claudio is being constantly blown up by some of Clives high range sword attacks. Im probably throwing it out stupidly as a panic move. And the Clive is just reading it. Im struggn against Clive bad. Still need more time to know exactly how far some of his moves reach I think.
Hey phi I’m not a jun main or even play this game but I’d like to see you take her more seriously. Maybe not main her but add her to your mix and see how much you could get out of jun
Been trying to rise in ranks and have now been stuck in Kishin for about a month now with Jun. Some notes I have is it feels like going in heat isn’t nearly as effective with her. All other characters have extra moves or advantages in their heat that make hers seemingly pale in comparison. Amazing heat smash and a couple good heat dashes, but really nothing else.
Yeah I aggree. Her initial heat was at least somewhat interesting, when she didn't have to sacrifice her health to do her laser moves. I truly dislike the way bamco nerfed her. If they could bring back the no health sacrifice during heat as well as make her enhanced f1+2 not cost heat meter during heat, her heat would be much better.
@ agreed!! She definitely needed something to bring her down early on, but maybe an overcompensation. Hopefully they find a healthy middle ground in the season 2 balance patch
Can't wait for pp episode of Asuka. Would be great, because she has some similar to Jun things, but she's not so good at small tekken and punishes. But she has i15 safe df2
Chill with the thumbnail 💀
Have to get people to watch the Jun video somehow :)
he knows his audience
Best mod
i dislike jun from fighting her, but i have never clicked on video so fast before now it crazy
Need
No wonder Kazuya folded
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hmmm.... i agree
She got that *gyatt* 😩
I don’t really know how that’s relevant but I’ll laugh?
Neuron activated.
Phi knows what he doing with that thumbnail
His facial expression says it all
Mama Jun is sexy
Jun mains rise up. Pp Jun just dropped
Insert Rock eye meme
Jun is the most fun character that I found in tekken 8. You can play her in so many ways - very poky and thight, or very cheesy. you can play very offensive or defensive. Utilize just a few moves or abuse the numerous strings and cancels that she has. She's not overpowered that can feel dumb to play, nor she's weak that you could feel limited with her tools. She has just everything you need to play a good tekken, and can be very creative the way you play
now thats a thumbnail we can all get behind😂
Hmmm, I'm happy here in front of it
But the camera shots from the back tho 😊
Kazuya certainly did
I like how you make everything characters look simple to play with the basic, no big combos , that’s really good 👍 thanks
Thank you so much! I appreciate your generosity
21:20 "Uhnnnn! He died!"
Phi's reactions are the best 😂
As a long-time fan of Jun, I would say that she's pretty consistently slept on. In T8, she has a lot going for her, while not as explosively scary as some other characters. I'm curious as to what new moves she'll be getting in the winter update.
A Jun video! How lovely. Us six Jun mains thank you.
EDIT: 27.
*28
Make it seven
Make it eight
@@ivandermurano6519 Make it ni... Oh wait, I am one of the six.
Make it nine (or we’re all part of the six)
Make it ten
A dumb but effective way to use the full crouch game is to make people afraid of genjitsu stance first. Then you can just cancel that stance into crouch (F3+4 D~), also known as the Jun shimmy.
The utility of genjitsu which is good for nice single hit damage is and beating lows and throws is now replaced with the threat of counter hit launches, a launching throw, and more string cheese maybe with transitions (ex: ws1,4,2 for the former and ws1,1f~/b~ for the latter)
The more transitions she gets into for free, the easier it is to abuse character knowledge as theres so much she can do at every opportunity. Just take the stance pressure one stance at a time.
Or you can just cancan. It always works eventually.
Thumbnail activated my monke brain 😳
Oh! Some things for you 😀
- Jun has a low crush launcher on counter in u+f 3
- you can go into a scrappy follow-up with d+f 4, which is also a counter hit launcher
- f 3,2,1 is a decent extension for wall carry
- if you land ff 3,3+4 or just the 3+4, then uf+2 is guaranteed
I’ve been waiting for the Jun ep for so long thank you Phi!!
I'm so glad I was there to see you do Phi Plays Jun
I think this will help me better open up my opponents. Hopefully I can get through purple ranks a bit more comfortably now
True true, i also been paying attention. A lot of ppl rely on strings, thing is when ppl know it you’re left with nothing to attack. Doing plus frames into pokes seems like a good way to play. I’m scared now i will fight more solid jun players lol.
"I'm not a Jun expert"
but the way Phi plays Jun looked like he's already above expert...😅😅😅
Hopefully a part 2 of this Jun video.
He has good fundamentals
Another frametrap Jun has is GEN 4 into d3+4, GEN 4 is +4 on block and homing so you can get guaranteed can-cans even if the opponent is trying to do evasion. If you guys want a different wall combo but aren't keen on Jun's life cost with u+3,4 > MIA 2, you can do db+1,1,1+2 but there's less damage.
Thanks for the vid Phi!
I always forget GEN4 is plus on block
@@implosiveraikoucuz everyone loves to duck you in that stance lol
Can't believe this wasn't titled "I understand her now"
18:52 She doesn't have a 1 throw, only Jin does.
You should explore her more, she could be that pocket character you were looking for since your intuition with her is great. What I find with her, and this can be both a good and bad thing, is that her entire move list works as a complete package. Its good because all my options are covered but it also means that if I forget a move exists such as f4, I’m missing out on a big part of the gameplay and immediately become weaker. She takes a lot of practice in that sense, a lot of situational awareness, but it’s so satisfying when it comes together.
Love the Thumbnail. Nice work!!!
Been waiting for this Phidx thank you, been stuck on Fujin and decided to take a break your notes it’s really helpful
well, i learned a few things, one im not using either of her strong points properly, i am like no proper poking, and no FC mixup game. both of em i will need to implement.
Stopping by and saying my challenge arc with Jin is actually been so effective I’m actually so proud of myself! Ranked up to Tenryu only 2 days from not playing ranked for so long! I literally couldn’t sleep when I was so close to Tenryu, like that was the first time in my life playing a fighting game and my determination made me a better player and for a minute there I had a flow chart! And I’ll be honest watching your red ranks video helped me so much! Whenever I hit Mighty Ruler I’ll be back!
Imma be real you have the best coaching ever bro you know all the right things too say and I appreciate you taking the time to give us knowledge to grow bruh fr
Ok dude, you got me
I really love this series. Understanding the perspective by playing other characters increases my enjoyment of the game
Can't wait to see your Ling. 🤩
Also Jun's most damaging wall carry is ff2,3
Her Genjitsu can work as a panic reversal while heavily minus up to (-23f) while blocking.
It worked while being -12 in Tag 2. Super buffed imo.
You have explained Jun exactly as I've always felt about her, you can get away with so many dumb things....
Her crouching d/b 1+2 throw is also a launcher. Its great against people that like to spam armor. Also her f, 2+3 punch parry is a launcher. You can sometimes use it on characters with slow strings. Like for instance Asuka b,2,1 the second hit comes out slow enough that it can be parried.
"I understand it now"
Don’t sleep on back 1. Slow to start, but will do a lot of damage on counter hit and is cancelable into crouch block so you can swap to a mid or bait out an attack for a counterattack or parry. This will also help you naturally flow into your low set ups that you were talking about :-)
YEEEEAH PP MAMA KAZAMA!!! Great video as always Phi! I feel like I kind of hit a brick wall when I got to Fujin with her, but this video genuinely helped a lot, now I know to lean more into her poking game and adding in more lows
Btw phi,
If you want a good combo ender mid-screen, you can run up after tornado, go into genjitsu stance (f3+4), and do genjitsu 3,2. Make sure to delay the 2. That will flip the opponent face down mid screen. From there you can 50/50 with genjitsu 1 or just ff1+2.
At the wall, you can do ff3, 3+4 to do a ground spike and the opponent will also be face down. More mix ups from there.
love the way u beak things down ,while also being understandable!!! hwoarang next please lol
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An advanced version of the upforward 3 you can do is instead of down 1+2, do down back 4 (o button) and hold the down button so jun remains grounded. Then do rising 2 to uppercut the opponent and then do a combo from there. Slightly harder execution wise but does more damage.
Down 1+2's main advantage is being able to do it regardless of positioning if you sidestep an attack and use up forward 3
MA man has figured out the yt thumbnails for sure
Cool guide! Hope you get to Leroy one day
We love cancan around these parts
As an Azucena player, I've been thinking of picking up Jun. This is very helpful!
12:18 That bro was lost for real
A video of jun in 2024? Am I dreaming? 😮
Phidx enjoying with Jun kazama😂
You make this hard ass game looks so easy. Yours truly, noob
PhiDX: "I'm not a Jun expert"
Game: "This is the first time you've been promoted to Raijin, so your other character whose online rankings were below Garyu have been promoted to Garyu."
Also, prior to T8, Jun could CanCan off of her 1, 1; now she (and Asuka) just get a REALLLY SLOWWW LOW SWEEEEP instead. It's been one of the harder adjustments to make for me.
I'm surprised you've made no utility of her db + 4, 4, 4, 3; it's literally her version of HellSweep and will chain off a neutral 1 easily.
DO NOT CANCAN FROM MIDSCREEN.
raijin is far from a rank i would call expert lol
bro beat arsh became a tekken scientist!
Yess man I’ve Been stuck in battle ruler for 3 days
Any character next is cool. I just like this series!
Is that the bishoujo mod xD ? (In the thumbnail)
PhiDX has figured it out! He has figured out the coomer thumbnails
I saw you play her the other day on the Sajam Chipotle deathmatch. This is your calling.
The last Kazuya Cancan made me laugh out loud
if this ever gets an ep 2 something i learned recently is jun has a ws 1, 4, 2 string which i believe is a low ender hit than a ws 1, 4, 1+2 which is a mid ender string its just another tool to have along with her croutch game (:
Watermelons
As of the four Jun players in all of the world, I finally have a guide.
Waiting for the Leroy video, since I play him and want to see how Phi would pilot him, but also since he said Leroy is one of his knowledge weakpoints when coaching Max. So it will be cool to see him figure out how to use him, and also allow him to learn how to fight him.
Phi, bro ain't no one here to learn the matchup.
Looks like we found his main
She's also got a nearly full throw game. She is no king or drag but she's better than vic or clive.
Edit. He mentioned the throw game around 19 mins
as a jun main this vid is much appreciated 🙏 thanks phi
It’s nice to see someone cover Jun, I find her kit and play style really interesting in this game so I’m always happy to see her getting more attention
Now that's a modden jun of big tastes
He's cooking
Happy Holidays Phi!!
He once again said PP
her panic buttons are a damn problem
As apart of the endangered species of Jun mains, we appreciate this offering 🙏
Just started learning Jun as a Kazuya main, appreciate the PP
Thank you Phi i really appreciate this video this is my main and was needing some help. Claudio next please :)
I hope we get a PP Lili. I would love to see how you started with her and eventually developed a mastery to even select her as a potential tourney character!!
This my baby put respect on her name
Phi i dont know if you would be interested, but id love to watch videos on like your tier list, and how you would go through balancing them. It would be even better if you got some other tekken players on to provide their opinions too.
YAAAAAA PHI COVERS MY MAIN
A merry late christmas for me. Jun best girl
My friends all play Mishima’s and reeeeaaalllyyy hate when I high crush electrics with d1+2 into a full combo. Love this character lol.
Idk how shes thought to be low tier. It feels like she can snowball easily
Only Arslan and his drones think she's low tier. Everyone else knows she's a solid mid tier.
Expecting pp hwoarang! And merry belated Christmas
uf2 is a better panic button than d1+2 usually, just because it's faster and it still high crushes.
Alright!!! Been hoping to see my main featured but I honestly expected the Jun video to come further down the line.
The can-cans can
Hell yeah the thumbnail got me to click
Also, yay Jun video!
She's pretty strong.
Only in the right hands. She’s so mid compared to a lot of the cast
How is he always stumbling upon such garbage players in ranked? LMAO. How is his opponent Raijin with King? He's more like Garyu. It's insane to me. Who are these people. When I'm playing ranked people on Fujin are like on Tekken God or higher. This King was eating up everything LOL.
Until you hit maybe Tekken emperor/TK god most players are not so great
The skill difference between red and blue rank people is very small in this game.
bro cooked with my main, nice work
Feel like Clive is so good at punishing Hopkick style moves with his range. Ex. My uf3 with Claudio is being constantly blown up by some of Clives high range sword attacks. Im probably throwing it out stupidly as a panic move. And the Clive is just reading it. Im struggn against Clive bad. Still need more time to know exactly how far some of his moves reach I think.
21:02 Can someone explain to me why cancan beats a powercrush like that? I don't get how that happened
Cancan is a low on the first hit
@hogobogo3923 Ohhh. I never released that. I just assumed it was like Jin's Thanks for answering
as a Jun player i look forward to you learning het
Hey phi I’m not a jun main or even play this game but I’d like to see you take her more seriously. Maybe not main her but add her to your mix and see how much you could get out of jun
Been trying to rise in ranks and have now been stuck in Kishin for about a month now with Jun. Some notes I have is it feels like going in heat isn’t nearly as effective with her. All other characters have extra moves or advantages in their heat that make hers seemingly pale in comparison. Amazing heat smash and a couple good heat dashes, but really nothing else.
Yeah I aggree. Her initial heat was at least somewhat interesting, when she didn't have to sacrifice her health to do her laser moves. I truly dislike the way bamco nerfed her. If they could bring back the no health sacrifice during heat as well as make her enhanced f1+2 not cost heat meter during heat, her heat would be much better.
@ agreed!! She definitely needed something to bring her down early on, but maybe an overcompensation. Hopefully they find a healthy middle ground in the season 2 balance patch
So kazuya likes a girl who can poke the bear.
The Jun Bishoujo mod thumbnail 🤣
50 50 guess guess guess. Jab into mixup.... Tekken 8
The only need to win in Tekken: Play Turtle, punish, cancel Grabs.... 😮💨
If you able learn it... High Chance to win...
11:20 plus fraaaames
Damn I am a Jun player but came into this video like how maybe he will have something on the board I didn't think about. He did not
Yesss! I secondarily main jun so this is great
Phi with the TrapNail
Can't wait for pp episode of Asuka. Would be great, because she has some similar to Jun things, but she's not so good at small tekken and punishes. But she has i15 safe df2
Nice… just waiting for the Lidia PP