Evs need lighter higher energy dense batteries as high as atleast 450wh/kg cells otherwise they wont be popular any time soon because they are too heavy and not practical at all,people want at least 400 miles on highway 70 mph range
I think what manufacturers are going to find is that hybrids are required in colder climates. So expect some sort of internal combustion no matter what. People have been losing half their range in cold weather plus degradation and are taking major depreciation losses on electric cars mainly because of the cost of battery repairs or replacement.
Evs need lighter higher energy dense batteries as high as atleast 450wh/kg cells otherwise they wont be popular any time soon because they are too heavy and not practical at all,people want at least 400 miles on highway 70 mph range,i hope all comapnies will see my comment
TBH, if you want an electric Porsche, this makes a whole lot more sense than the Taycan. The Macan 4 has bigger battery and a WAY more range than a base Taycan, while costing 10+k less. You can upgrade the Taycan with a bigger battery, but it'll still have less kwh, and still have much less range. Lots of reports about Taycan's losing so much value on the 2nd hand market, well this will only make it worst.
@@mcsike7264 20k of that is just the Porshe badge lol Even still, the top spec of each is $95k to $68k So can't call it cheap And this could arguably compete with the X
Porsche is going to regret going all electric soon, sales are going to take dive in the future, ask anyone who owns an ICE powered Porsche if they would trade theirs to get this crap, the answer including myself is hell no
I’ve heard when the person who heads up the Options Department stands up to talk at the board meetings they stand, laugh outrageously and applaud. Followed by more laughter.
My only complaint is the rear design !!! Looks kinda blunt and to be frank even the front shape looks the same, the old macan looked better.. my opinion..
Whilst I quite like this car I worry about the whole EV only idea. Every Taycan owner I know (8) say they dont want EV next because of hassle around the charging infrastructure just not being there. And yet Porsche are bringing yet another electric only mass produced car to market. And despite really liking this and Taycans that really puts me off getting one.
The charging infrastructure will only get better. Early petrol car owners faced problems too, but eventually it reached a point where you barely had to worry about petrol stations - but in remote areas that point only arrived in the nineties. I have eighties memories of being almost stranded in rural Wales in a petrol car after assuming there'd be more petrol stations. But having to adapt doesn't come easily to everyone, and a lot of the people who can afford EVs are older and as an old fart myself I know that change is harder to handle.
Agree, big expensive EV’s don’t make any sense at all yet. Small ones that you can home charge do but all still too expensive. A long way to go with infrastructure and tech yet.
Will lose value like crazy! You can find taycans 60% discounted with basically 5.000km on the odometer! And good luck giving one back after you spent your money on it. No car dealer is taking them. This is how Porsche shot themselves in the foot. China thanks!
Alright, I’ll be honest here. The thing looks more like an iPhone than a car. Probably has more in common as well. What happened to car designs ? Everything looks like a box nowadays. Kinda props to Toyota with their design on the Supra while keeping it affordable (goes to show that good design doesn’t need to be expensive) and GM with their Hummer EV SUV and Mazda with most of their current lineup. Looks like nowadays users are paying more for a more generic looking car. Just my PERSONAL hot take. You can have other opinions and it’s fine.
Shout out to my fellow uk friends who think 300 miles EVs are unusable. In the US, i get it. In the UK, its one 30 min stop (or 2 15 min atops) from london to Glasgow.
Why does Porsche stick to having a separate stalk for cruise control? It just seems so old fashioned, while they could easily add the controls to the steering wheel.
I gotta admit, the first look I had at the silhouette of the car a few weeks ago, the front looked weird but I'm actually surprised how well it actually looks. But I don't like the back so much. It really does look weird I love the interior tho! really nice And the fact that a Porsche is cheaper than a Mercedes, yet still being better, makes me even more happy Not that I could ever afford one but I still love the brand Porsche with all of my heart and soul
I think the older one had more curb appeal, the bonnet looks like a old beetle shape ! it's flat at the front ! interior look nice but all the new Porsche's have hard seats, nowhere near as comfy as the older ones -like the 2014 cayenne
Should have hit the market 2 years ago but got delayed again and again. The inside and tech is nice, iam glad Porsche stood up against the VAG nonsense here. But I dont like the frontend, Porsche should have just added the front from the ICE Macan. Its missing the expensive clamshell bonnet and those double headlights look aweful, could be mistaken for a Citroen or KIA . The rear could also be more clean.
I’m not sure id compare this to a Tesla Model Y. If anything it makes the Porsche seem worse getting the same 0-60 time as a car 50k cheaper and with autopilot standard. Porsche is just in its own zone. It’s not the best choice cost wise but if someone want a Porsche they’ll pay the premium for features they could get on much cheaper cars. I will say the driving dynamics and looks is only thing that stand out to me.
When u go electric u sell and sacrifice 60,% of what makes your brand special. Electricity engines are mostly the same and not as peculiar as combustion. In a way you sircumsize your brand. Especially in brands like porche and mustang.
Mat, I want to say hello and offer you one option. I would like to see the Dodge Challenger in the next drag race, but with the SRT Hallcat modification, this is the one that has 717 horsepower in 2022 and an engine capacity of 6.2 litres. On the contrary, take something American, like the Tesla Model S, it is just like another car, something from the German kind, like the Porsche Taycan is an electric with an engine for 680 horses of the first generation 2020 - 2024. I really hope you can find such cars, it will be interesting to look at this, and you will definitely sit in the dodge!)
I just long for the days when TURBO actually just referred to the nature of the propulsion, instead of being reduced to a mere marketing ploy. Quite indicative of the times, when 'defensive' means defending imperial aggression, and 'environmentally friendly' has f all to do with protecting the environment or the human species.
It’s ridiculous. I feel like these guys are getting paid to push electric cars in these reviews. Electric cars are trash, anyone I have spoken to who owns a Porsche has said they will not buy an electric Porsche under any circumstance so I’m not sure who Porsche is expecting to buy their new electric cars. If this is the direction they’re heading in they will lose huge chunk of their customer base.
Gotta love the interior of this car, absolutely amazing. I like the front end of the car, however the back not so much. When you look at the back of the car from a certain angle (diagonally) it looks weird, compared to the normal macan.
Well, that's the great thing: you can CHOOSE it! If you want it, then you choose it. But if you always drive alone or as a couple anyway, the Porsche is more of a lifestyle product for you and your wife and you don't have any children who could ever ride along, you don't have to pay for something you would never use anyway. I think this is great! The freedom of choice. Nothing you have to pay for even though you won't use it once.
@@hochzeitsfotografseychelle2986 That's not my point. I would agree if we are talking about a Corolla or something else affordable...But for 115K, everything slightly related to comfort should already be standard.
For 115K€ you can buy a flat with sea view in the south of Portugal, imagine asking for an extra 415€ for two electrical conductors making a resistance to warm my seats 😂
It should be there, if you don't want a warm butt then don't turn it on. If you want a warm butt, because you got Company aus den Seychellen und denen ist kalt, then turn it on. Kapiert. ? @@hochzeitsfotografseychelle2986
You people always say this. It’s never even remotely that extreme. You buy into the bullshit that people like Tyler Hoover spout about “luxury cars” losing value, and then they reveal that they bought some 20 year old S class with seats that look like they sat in the ocean and then say say “this is why you should never buy a new luxury car.”
For some reason, those headlights now remind me of the old Kia Sportage. When the Sportage was launched, the lights looked like the front of a Porsche so it's gone full circle for me.
What I don't get, why did they do the split headlights? I get it on the BMW 7 series, their runninglights are so thin, the real headlights have to be somewhere else. But here? It seems like Porsche did split headlights just for the sake of having split headlights. I find this wierd, like the car has four eyes. And if you look at the taycan, size really shouldn't be a reason to do this.
@@skrlaviolette its probably becauso the area in wich the Headlights are in now would be so empty without them. On the old Macan there was an air intake at that place. I didnt like the split headlights at first too, but if you think about it it seems like a good decision
@@skrlaviolette i’d probably bet it has to do with regulations around the hight of the beam. Led lights reach far if they are also set very high on the car they will blind incoming traffic or you will need to point them downwards, hence you lower them to avoid that
The 90% positive comments are mostly sales guys or Influencers for Porsche. Taycan Driver speaking. The car is very nice, but many times in the shop for electronic issues. It's a bother over 3 years.
Seems like a very strange move to me. Macan is Porsches highest selling model, and they make it completely EV when EV sales are slowing down. I also just don’t think a ton of people who like Porsche are big EV fans. I think this is going to hurt the company
@@Saddex still won’t be usable for winter road trips. I’ve had multiple friends think their battery was full. After 2 days being garaged in the cold it’s not. The system says they have 250 miles but it runs out after 125. We need 700 mile range for EVs to be practical beyond commuting cars.
@@arcadialive4265 do they have a heat pump? If not, yes, a 50% range loss is probably going to happen in well below freezing temps. With heat pump, 30-40% is more realistic below freezing. Highway range is of course going to be even less vs WLTP but that applies to ICE vehicles too. For a lot of people it will probably be adequate, though ideally the summer range should probably be in excess of 450 miles to be considered practical across the board in Europe. The distances are relatively short and winters mild. In the EU, one of the planned provisions of the Euro 7 standard, mandatory winter range tests, was unfortunately scrapped. That was stupid because it would provide a lot of certainty instead of having to assume about a third less at freezing which is average loss demonstrated in tests. More without a heat pump and at colder temps.
@@Saddex they are great daily driver cars. Just get questionable for road trips. And yes, I googled the model just to make sure. They do have heat pumps. I have been told the worst they got was 125 mile range, when it said much higher on the gauge. I also guess the car can also drain while turned off during cold weather
@@arcadialive4265 mine loses about 1% every 2 days at -10 C or below. Though yeah, probably I assume it's a combination of things, including temps in that range. Although since the trend is for batteries to get larger capacities with higher energy density, the range loss in winter should get proportionally smaller to some extent, as the energy used to heat the cabin per unit of time won't change and it takes much less energy to keep the cabin warm vs heating it up from cold even when driving a longer distance. Unless though you precondition the cabin while plugged in but then the overall loss should be even smaller proportionally. I generally don't believe in telling people what to do, though another option available to lower consumption is to use heated seats and steering vs the fans that could be considered. Though yeah, for winter roadtripping EVs leave a bit to be desired even if I believe 700 miles WLTP probably is a bit overkill. 500 is probably going to be the sweet spot for the majority of people.
Where I live, about 10 days ago, the temperature dropped to minus 20 degrees Fahrenheit, which killed many EVs as they could not be charged. Would this Macan be able to handle such low temperature?
EV manufacturers are working to solve this issue, however i doubt this Porche will be able to do it effectively unless they've got crazy new battery tech to fix it. Largely the easiest way to fix this is by warming the battery (similar to warming an ICE).
20 degrees does not kill the EV unless you were already at 10-15% residual charge. Key is to keep it topped off in the winter time. 30-40% loss of range is a real winter time issue.
367 mile EV range sounds about right for over a week worth of commuting. But let's be honest those are the inflated range test distances almost nobody in the real world would be able to achieve. I'd give it 325 at best, but still great for charging maybe 4 times a month.
Long line but your right..service may cost you your first born but sacrifices is what it's all about..the best thing is in 5 years time it will be yesterday's technology..great!!!
@@noelzuzic7205 I dont like the Q5 at all. Ultraboring looks. I have driven my Taycan now for 3 years and it's the best car I have ever had. The ones before were M3 E92 and F80 Comp. I love the electric platform. Dont even remember when I went last time to a gasoline station. My first car was a Beetle-70 which I bought in 1977. After that I have had 18 cars so have experience. I will never ever go back to ICE anymore.
Porsche has lost the plot with pricing. You're looking at £80k with a handful of options for the base model, so that's roughly the same as I paid for well optioned GTS. It's not even very fast, five something to 60mph, 130 something top end. Oh dear. The 'turbo' 🤭is £100k before options 🤣. As nice as it looks, an awful lot of people who bought Macans like me, won't be buying these. I bet they depreciate badly as well.
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Mat Watson looks like Ken miles 😮😮
Evs need lighter higher energy dense batteries as high as atleast 450wh/kg cells otherwise they wont be popular any time soon because they are too heavy and not practical at all,people want at least 400 miles on highway 70 mph range
@@Ahmedwaleedelsheikhis Mat Watson more like Ken Miles 2.5?
Calling it a turbo with no turbo is a crime.
Womp womp
i do hope they change that, it is a bit stupid ngl
They have been doing it since the Taycan.
idk why people fuss about this so much. Turbo = fast, every kid can make that connection without knowing what a turbocharger is.
@@Breadfan00they could call ev fast models “boost” instead of turbo you know…
Previous Macan is from now a valuable collector item.
2020 Macan also.
997 will be the most valuable. Last 911 before VW
@@paranoia800 You mean the 993, last 911 before water cooling.
I think what manufacturers are going to find is that hybrids are required in colder climates. So expect some sort of internal combustion no matter what. People have been losing half their range in cold weather plus degradation and are taking major depreciation losses on electric cars mainly because of the cost of battery repairs or replacement.
@@Mr.Ghost_og Explains why a tropical countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland have the highest percentage of EV sales in the world.
get ready for Mat saying PoooOooosh
Yes.
In the USA they say Pooscha
Porsche 👍
They should take his GT3 RS away 😭
Evs need lighter higher energy dense batteries as high as atleast 450wh/kg cells otherwise they wont be popular any time soon because they are too heavy and not practical at all,people want at least 400 miles on highway 70 mph range,i hope all comapnies will see my comment
Poooooooshe
I’m so tired of everyone doing electric cars.
The old Macan looked a lot better.
They should have just kept the eletric very similar don’t understand tbh.
They don’t want to sell ev’s, that’s why.
You could BASE jump in the price gap between the macan and the EQE, jeez the undercut is ridiculous
now i really want a used one
Legacy EV with a decent front boot? Wow Porsche is really taking this EV thing seriously, congrats.
TBH, if you want an electric Porsche, this makes a whole lot more sense than the Taycan. The Macan 4 has bigger battery and a WAY more range than a base Taycan, while costing 10+k less. You can upgrade the Taycan with a bigger battery, but it'll still have less kwh, and still have much less range. Lots of reports about Taycan's losing so much value on the 2nd hand market, well this will only make it worst.
If Porshe claims it is the same as the model Y, it's definitely better
I mean it better be its like 100k vs 40 to 50k XD
@@mcsike7264 20k of that is just the Porshe badge lol
Even still, the top spec of each is $95k to $68k
So can't call it cheap
And this could arguably compete with the X
@@ab3040 not plaid tho
@@mcsike7264 not in a drag race no
But on a track, I bet it does better
@@ab3040 ya i can see that but i don't think they inted to make it a track car all they did was put a modle s plaid power train in a X XD
I'm missing the part where he is totally SHOCKED.
Put me off as soon as you said “all electric”
Newton meters should be "Nm" as this is correct as per international ISO standards for SI units.
This will make Macan unique instead of being a budget Cayenne. Good job, Porsche!
I feel like the design is a 2005 futuristic design. Like they asked a kid, how do you think a car would look like in 2024.
Porsche is going to regret going all electric soon, sales are going to take dive in the future, ask anyone who owns an ICE powered Porsche if they would trade theirs to get this crap, the answer including myself is hell no
I’ve heard when the person who heads up the Options Department stands up to talk at the board meetings they stand, laugh outrageously and applaud. Followed by more laughter.
Will never buy an EV again.
My only complaint is the rear design !!! Looks kinda blunt and to be frank even the front shape looks the same, the old macan looked better.. my opinion..
The rear end looks like it is inspired from cybertruck which again i think is inspired from a brick .
A total of 4 patent infringement lawsuits were filed against LG for Macan's Chinese-made catl ncm811 battery.
Just make the old ones ev’s. Why always restyle? Then nobody can complain.
This exterior design is a downgrade from the ICE version.
Whilst I quite like this car I worry about the whole EV only idea. Every Taycan owner I know (8) say they dont want EV next because of hassle around the charging infrastructure just not being there. And yet Porsche are bringing yet another electric only mass produced car to market. And despite really liking this and Taycans that really puts me off getting one.
The charging infrastructure will only get better. Early petrol car owners faced problems too, but eventually it reached a point where you barely had to worry about petrol stations - but in remote areas that point only arrived in the nineties. I have eighties memories of being almost stranded in rural Wales in a petrol car after assuming there'd be more petrol stations. But having to adapt doesn't come easily to everyone, and a lot of the people who can afford EVs are older and as an old fart myself I know that change is harder to handle.
@@davidcoveney1131 I agree. But until the infrastructure is there I'll hold off as long as i can. It's just impractical to go EV
Agree, big expensive EV’s don’t make any sense at all yet. Small ones that you can home charge do but all still too expensive. A long way to go with infrastructure and tech yet.
The fastest thing about this car will be its depreciation.
But the old macan looked so good and had its own personality
I drive macan turbo and this is ugly lol.
I think this if way more classy than the earlier model.
just like the old one, i mean it is like every porsche really, they always look the same, super boring
Wait for 6 years and the battery will die
If there are multiple realities, it looks like Porsche is doing the best cars in all of them. 😮
I love it!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Sorry to tell you but you have a really really bad taste in cars
@@nk__ it looks way better than the earlier model, that's for sure.
They got the Macan too, damn it.
Don’t agree I think the back looks amazing! Much better then the old one
I normally dont like suv's but this actually looks right.
Will lose value like crazy! You can find taycans 60% discounted with basically 5.000km on the odometer! And good luck giving one back after you spent your money on it. No car dealer is taking them. This is how Porsche shot themselves in the foot. China thanks!
First gen still looking much better than this.
I''ll happily stick to my 2024 Macan S for the time being.
Welcome to the world of sustainable driving, Porsche!
Alright, I’ll be honest here. The thing looks more like an iPhone than a car. Probably has more in common as well. What happened to car designs ? Everything looks like a box nowadays. Kinda props to Toyota with their design on the Supra while keeping it affordable (goes to show that good design doesn’t need to be expensive) and GM with their Hummer EV SUV and Mazda with most of their current lineup.
Looks like nowadays users are paying more for a more generic looking car.
Just my PERSONAL hot take. You can have other opinions and it’s fine.
looks like an oversized taycan
Porsche's designers must have been exhausted after this 😂
Shout out to my fellow uk friends who think 300 miles EVs are unusable.
In the US, i get it.
In the UK, its one 30 min stop (or 2 15 min atops) from london to Glasgow.
My Macan Turbo just doubled in value! Looking at all the Porsche forums, this thing has not received a very warm welcome.......
These cars are soo freaking expensive for what is essentially a grocery getter or school run wagon.
Why does Porsche stick to having a separate stalk for cruise control? It just seems so old fashioned, while they could easily add the controls to the steering wheel.
I forgot to say, Ferrari Roma all the way.
I gotta admit, the first look I had at the silhouette of the car a few weeks ago, the front looked weird but I'm actually surprised how well it actually looks.
But I don't like the back so much. It really does look weird
I love the interior tho! really nice
And the fact that a Porsche is cheaper than a Mercedes, yet still being better, makes me even more happy
Not that I could ever afford one but I still love the brand Porsche with all of my heart and soul
Watch the values drop like a stone on these
Ice baby, ice baby
I think the older one had more curb appeal, the bonnet looks like a old beetle shape ! it's flat at the front ! interior look nice but all the new Porsche's have hard seats, nowhere near as comfy as the older ones -like the 2014 cayenne
EMF. Has everyone in the world forgotten this ?
As soon as you say “all electric” I move on to another video
Should have hit the market 2 years ago but got delayed again and again. The inside and tech is nice, iam glad Porsche stood up against the VAG nonsense here. But I dont like the frontend, Porsche should have just added the front from the ICE Macan. Its missing the expensive clamshell bonnet and those double headlights look aweful, could be mistaken for a Citroen or KIA . The rear could also be more clean.
The old design somehwat feels better to look at. The front of this new model looks great but the back not as much.
I’m not sure id compare this to a Tesla Model Y. If anything it makes the Porsche seem worse getting the same 0-60 time as a car 50k cheaper and with autopilot standard. Porsche is just in its own zone. It’s not the best choice cost wise but if someone want a Porsche they’ll pay the premium for features they could get on much cheaper cars. I will say the driving dynamics and looks is only thing that stand out to me.
When u go electric u sell and sacrifice 60,% of what makes your brand special. Electricity engines are mostly the same and not as peculiar as combustion. In a way you sircumsize your brand. Especially in brands like porche and mustang.
Mat, I want to say hello and offer you one option. I would like to see the Dodge Challenger in the next drag race, but with the SRT Hallcat modification, this is the one that has 717 horsepower in 2022 and an engine capacity of 6.2 litres. On the contrary, take something American, like the Tesla Model S, it is just like another car, something from the German kind, like the Porsche Taycan is an electric with an engine for 680 horses of the first generation 2020 - 2024. I really hope you can find such cars, it will be interesting to look at this, and you will definitely sit in the dodge!)
the back makes it look like a small hatchback 💀
The biggest thing missing is an engine. What a load of bollocks.
As long as it's all electric it's nonsense..we will miss the V6 GTS
Literally a VW ID.5😂
What happens when you use Photoshop's Content Aware Scale feature to make a Taycan taller
Well this removes it from my list of cars to pick from when I buy a new one next fall.
Local infrastructure has scant support for EVs
The new macan looks like genesis gv40 from certain angles
Huh does electric cars have turbo now these days? Do they know at Porsche how turbo works??
The rear end needs a roof spoiler
As soon as he said the new car will be all electric i lost my interest in the video😂
I just long for the days when TURBO actually just referred to the nature of the propulsion, instead of being reduced to a mere marketing ploy. Quite indicative of the times, when 'defensive' means defending imperial aggression, and 'environmentally friendly' has f all to do with protecting the environment or the human species.
Who else goes straight to the comments to see what others think?
I go str8 to comments to see if Powsche is mentioned. Can this drift around a burning Aventador?
Me 😂
its a disgrace how the german automobile industry and legacy are demolished for no rational reason at all.
It’s ridiculous. I feel like these guys are getting paid to push electric cars in these reviews. Electric cars are trash, anyone I have spoken to who owns a Porsche has said they will not buy an electric Porsche under any circumstance so I’m not sure who Porsche is expecting to buy their new electric cars. If this is the direction they’re heading in they will lose huge chunk of their customer base.
The interior dash is great. Finally something that looks like a real car inside. No tacky large screen tablet display. Very stylish indeed.
The interior of the Macan 2024 looks like the 2006 TAKATA DOME NSX GT500.
@@purwantiallan5089 i should buy you some glasses
You mean finally something, that looks the same for almost two decades now? Wow what a stylish interior! 🤦
It needs HUD
it looks crowded and messy though..
they fucked up the rear end so bad😢
I was thinking same thing...front is nice but rear is just awful.
Even the front headlights look bad😢
It just looks like a Kia or Toyota... for 120 grand. Disgusting
@@ek5659front is ugly too. I hope, at least next 911 will be without these shitty Taycan headlights
@@Kulsarieff exactly, being electric may not be so bad,but why should they change the design..They r going backwards in the name of innovation
Gotta love the interior of this car, absolutely amazing. I like the front end of the car, however the back not so much. When you look at the back of the car from a certain angle (diagonally) it looks weird, compared to the normal macan.
I think its because it lacks a spoiler
@@oket31 yeah i think so, the exhaust pipes play a lot as well I think ^^
Once the spoiler is out it’s nice just needs it as permanent feature
Agreed. However I'd give the design a month or two. Bet the rear end will grow on you
I totally agree, the back is weird, I preferred the old Macan. The rest of the car is great, and the interior is beautiful!
Something you'll only see from a german manufacturer: Selling your car for 115K €...but making back-seat heating optional for 415€....love it.
Well, that's the great thing: you can CHOOSE it! If you want it, then you choose it. But if you always drive alone or as a couple anyway, the Porsche is more of a lifestyle product for you and your wife and you don't have any children who could ever ride along, you don't have to pay for something you would never use anyway. I think this is great! The freedom of choice. Nothing you have to pay for even though you won't use it once.
@@hochzeitsfotografseychelle2986 That's not my point. I would agree if we are talking about a Corolla or something else affordable...But for 115K, everything slightly related to comfort should already be standard.
For 115K€ you can buy a flat with sea view in the south of Portugal, imagine asking for an extra 415€ for two electrical conductors making a resistance to warm my seats 😂
It should be there, if you don't want a warm butt then don't turn it on. If you want a warm butt, because you got Company aus den Seychellen und denen ist kalt, then turn it on. Kapiert. ? @@hochzeitsfotografseychelle2986
The rear window wiper being optional is the real kicker!
watch the resell value drop like a stone - 40% value in 3 years is my bet
I bet it will be even worse.
You people always say this. It’s never even remotely that extreme. You buy into the bullshit that people like Tyler Hoover spout about “luxury cars” losing value, and then they reveal that they bought some 20 year old S class with seats that look like they sat in the ocean and then say say “this is why you should never buy a new luxury car.”
@@conor7154 just look at the taycan market now, it's dropped an insane amount, it's not far-fetched to think the macan will follow the same path
model 3 down 40% minimum since 2021 @@conor7154
@@conor7154 They just don't like EVs, like an angry old man shaking his fist at the sky.
prefered the older versions look then this one butt crazy power
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Hard disagree. This looks way better. Looks way more futurstic
The new version look better except the front end (way to big) imo.
Each their own opinion. It's a question of personal taste.
I also prefer the previous version, this one is a little too "bloby" for me.
@@edouard9867 I can spot the problem. The grill in the new model is located too low. And it is indeed ugly.
As a German, my heart is bleeding.. its called porscheeeeeee not porsch
Did they have to make it ugly
yeah
It does suck really 🤦🏻
Let's make a electric car but let's make sure it stands out and is obvious, while people want it to blend in and look normal
I love it. People hate changes and new things. In a few months everyone will love it. I bet it will sell just as well as the old Macan
@@N1ckZ For me I have a brand new 2023 Lexus RX and it's better than this Macan. 👌🏼👍🏼
Will be interesting to compare sales numbers to previous years.
Ye the mums who drive the kids to school 2 miles away will love it and that's about it!
They will crash completely.
The Taycan was the best-selling Porsche that is not an SUV since it came out. This Macan EV will sell well.
@@snakeeyes9246 in first year yes. Nobody buys taycans anymore.
Well I will not be buying one to replace my current one so that is one less.
For some reason, those headlights now remind me of the old Kia Sportage. When the Sportage was launched, the lights looked like the front of a Porsche so it's gone full circle for me.
What I don't get, why did they do the split headlights? I get it on the BMW 7 series, their runninglights are so thin, the real headlights have to be somewhere else. But here? It seems like Porsche did split headlights just for the sake of having split headlights. I find this wierd, like the car has four eyes. And if you look at the taycan, size really shouldn't be a reason to do this.
@@skrlaviolette its probably becauso the area in wich the Headlights are in now would be so empty without them. On the old Macan there was an air intake at that place. I didnt like the split headlights at first too, but if you think about it it seems like a good decision
@@skrlaviolette i’d probably bet it has to do with regulations around the hight of the beam. Led lights reach far if they are also set very high on the car they will blind incoming traffic or you will need to point them downwards, hence you lower them to avoid that
The 90% positive comments are mostly sales guys or Influencers for Porsche. Taycan Driver speaking. The car is very nice, but many times in the shop for electronic issues. It's a bother over 3 years.
Should’ve put a permanent spoiler above the rear glass
Exactly! I don't really dig this design compared to the older one.
Agreed, but it would have reduced the range, which is a selling feature
And rear window wiper under spoiler
@@MagicBox-k3d - Kyle has said that the US spec will have a rear wiper as standard.
@@MagicBox-k3d the rear wiper is optional when you order it.
What’s faster the 0-60 or the depreciation?
Or the quality of the RUclips hate comments on this channel. Who knows?
@@Astke That doesn't make sense. The quality of the RUclips hate comments is faster?
Lloyd - I prefer your wit sir 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The 30-40% as soon as you drive it off the lot - and there's a depreciation hit buying any new car.
@@CC-hy6se he’s trying too hard to cope with his EV money pit
Called turbo without a turbo😂
Porsche without a porsche engine
And nobody will buy it 😊
@@aaz1992 Maybe in another universe
@@aaz1992 The price for that power is actually quite good. It will sell loads.
@@aaz1992 this comment will be funny to look back at in a few years
From today forward, an old Macan GTS with low mileage will be a wise and enjoyable investment.🤠
I have an Olivetti typewriter you may want to add to your collection
@@johnn17golf EV's are one of the oldest car concepts.
@@jjay350 IC tech is well past its best before date. Time to move on to the better tech
Mom i want a porsche macan gts!
Mom: we have a macan at home
The Macan at home:
I don’t see many purists going for Porsche EV.
Seems like a very strange move to me. Macan is Porsches highest selling model, and they make it completely EV when EV sales are slowing down. I also just don’t think a ton of people who like Porsche are big EV fans. I think this is going to hurt the company
It looks like the Genesis GV60 or the MG 4. The old one is much better looking!
Yep. Looks like a steep back for me in terms of overall look.
367 miles in warm weather. Probably 157 in cold.
Heat pump is standard equipment in this, so expect around 30% less or about 257 in winter. The less powerful variant should make around 266 in winter.
@@Saddex still won’t be usable for winter road trips. I’ve had multiple friends think their battery was full. After 2 days being garaged in the cold it’s not. The system says they have 250 miles but it runs out after 125. We need 700 mile range for EVs to be practical beyond commuting cars.
@@arcadialive4265 do they have a heat pump? If not, yes, a 50% range loss is probably going to happen in well below freezing temps. With heat pump, 30-40% is more realistic below freezing. Highway range is of course going to be even less vs WLTP but that applies to ICE vehicles too.
For a lot of people it will probably be adequate, though ideally the summer range should probably be in excess of 450 miles to be considered practical across the board in Europe. The distances are relatively short and winters mild. In the EU, one of the planned provisions of the Euro 7 standard, mandatory winter range tests, was unfortunately scrapped. That was stupid because it would provide a lot of certainty instead of having to assume about a third less at freezing which is average loss demonstrated in tests. More without a heat pump and at colder temps.
@@Saddex they are great daily driver cars. Just get questionable for road trips. And yes, I googled the model just to make sure. They do have heat pumps. I have been told the worst they got was 125 mile range, when it said much higher on the gauge. I also guess the car can also drain while turned off during cold weather
@@arcadialive4265 mine loses about 1% every 2 days at -10 C or below. Though yeah, probably I assume it's a combination of things, including temps in that range.
Although since the trend is for batteries to get larger capacities with higher energy density, the range loss in winter should get proportionally smaller to some extent, as the energy used to heat the cabin per unit of time won't change and it takes much less energy to keep the cabin warm vs heating it up from cold even when driving a longer distance. Unless though you precondition the cabin while plugged in but then the overall loss should be even smaller proportionally. I generally don't believe in telling people what to do, though another option available to lower consumption is to use heated seats and steering vs the fans that could be considered.
Though yeah, for winter roadtripping EVs leave a bit to be desired even if I believe 700 miles WLTP probably is a bit overkill. 500 is probably going to be the sweet spot for the majority of people.
Where I live, about 10 days ago, the temperature dropped to minus 20 degrees Fahrenheit, which killed many EVs as they could not be charged. Would this Macan be able to handle such low temperature?
EV manufacturers are working to solve this issue, however i doubt this Porche will be able to do it effectively unless they've got crazy new battery tech to fix it. Largely the easiest way to fix this is by warming the battery (similar to warming an ICE).
20 degrees does not kill the EV unless you were already at 10-15% residual charge. Key is to keep it topped off in the winter time. 30-40% loss of range is a real winter time issue.
@@tor-Norge Minus 20 degrees. Reread my comment.
@lancecahill5486 His point is still valid tho. The bigger problem are the people, who haven't got the slightest idea about how their vehicle works.
I suggest you move somewhere warmer … that sounds awful!
367 mile EV range sounds about right for over a week worth of commuting. But let's be honest those are the inflated range test distances almost nobody in the real world would be able to achieve. I'd give it
325 at best, but still great for charging maybe 4 times a month.
@ev.whyking yes sir, I'm a professional drone operator and always need to go distant locations for commercial work.
I hate the trend of placing the lights below the daytime-running lights.
Macan. MA.CAN there's no R in the name! Watson you utter flute 😂
TURBO is for very fast electrons from the battery XD
and the value from the depreciation
@@djtaylorutube 😁
Looks very smart 👌 maybe I'll pick one up in a few years once it's depreciated like a rock 🪨
Long line but your right..service may cost you your first born but sacrifices is what it's all about..the best thing is in 5 years time it will be yesterday's technology..great!!!
No you won't.
@RG-ld8wv probably will go for a taycan actually
As my model x does the job of being practical.
Good one more reason to buy Q5
Q5?? What?? 😂😂
@@peterhammer4644 same platform... but still has a normal engine not this electeric crap
oh yea, e-tron owners are very happy customers of teslas now xD
@@noelzuzic7205 I dont like the Q5 at all. Ultraboring looks. I have driven my Taycan now for 3 years and it's the best car I have ever had. The ones before were M3 E92 and F80 Comp. I love the electric platform. Dont even remember when I went last time to a gasoline station. My first car was a Beetle-70 which I bought in 1977. After that I have had 18 cars so have experience.
I will never ever go back to ICE anymore.
U serious.. this looks way better inside and out. As an audi fan nothing competes with porsche they are a tier above
Porsche has lost the plot with pricing. You're looking at £80k with a handful of options for the base model, so that's roughly the same as I paid for well optioned GTS. It's not even very fast, five something to 60mph, 130 something top end. Oh dear. The 'turbo' 🤭is £100k before options 🤣. As nice as it looks, an awful lot of people who bought Macans like me, won't be buying these. I bet they depreciate badly as well.
I like the range, hope it holds up to the claims.
Also, applaud Matt for making this vid as if in person review. Great job
that thing is hideous