Two completely different personalities, Fabi and Dubov. Fabi is super solid, consistent, logical. Dubov seems like an ecentric, go wih a flow. That must influence a playstyle Great interview
@mg8224 yes not only he Fabi NOT super solid, he also isn't as logical. Someone talking in a cool and collected manner doesnt make them logical. He is the opposite, very emotional. He chess shows that passion and hard work. On the egde.
It's some kind of rule of nature. All Russians must use the worst webcams you've ever seen, and, bizarrely, the more they look like the "skinny gamer" type, the worse the cam is.
Dubov is that one manhwa character who gets introduced mid story as some op fun character from a foreign country, who's serious fun and most importantly not strongest.
Ivanchuk would be another great interview, hes played just about everyone in the modern era. Would enjoy his thoughts on pretty much anything chess related.
And pretty much beat everyone in his hay days. Vasyl is a gem ❤ He is probably the only active player from his generation, other than probably Adams, although Adams doesn't play much, even Anand doesn't. I believe just like Yasser, Ivanchuk would be a "grandfather with so many stories to tell for a kid" . I'll gladly be the kid to hear his stories over the years ❤
Only problem is that Vasyl doesn't know when to stop once he gets talking so it might be difficult to do like an hour long interview and cover many topics. Look up his interview with Tania Sachdev.
Dubov has such an unorthodox personality in the chess world, I love the way he represents his opinions on a topic 😹😹 it was soo interesting to watch Fabi's calm and collected personality with Dubov's energetic personality. W intervieww 🔥🔥
Great interview. The back and forth between Dubuv and Fabi was amazing to listen to. Two of the best by far chess players in the world talking was really cool.
@@nipunmehta8782I think he means like top 20 players belonging to the best. (Of course omitting the fact that Fabi’s peak classical rating is ridiculous)
Dubov is a great guy!.. And I can't help it but I appreciate Fabi more and more...A very unique character for his "authenticity"... And for his indisputable TALENT! A real gentleman. Gentleman Fabi!
PHN went into detail about how the last WC team was formed when he filmed the bts series with Gusty and Fress. Not sure if that’s still available to watch though since it was a Chess24/PMG special series.
Yeah I was looking for that series actually but couldn't find anywhere. Back then I was a high schooler so I couldn't afford it but now I have some savings but the video's not available. Do you know where to get it by any chance?
I think talent could take some natural abilities, I'm surprised no one talked about it. But for example for magnus, he has eidetic memory. Which is honestly a talent and a Dann good one for a chess player
Memory was under mentioned. A talent for competition too. I wouldn't fancy playing Kasparov or Magnus at any game or sport. They are both ruthless and hate losing. Its an important quality in one on one activities.
Cristian is in full focus mode trying to understand Dubov. 😂 Also, I’m now refreshing Hikaru’s page every 30 seconds to see his breakdown of this discussion…
Talent definition : 1. natural aptitude or skill. Everyone is working hard to reach and maintain that level, so there must be something that makes one or another better, make better/faster decisions and also do it under pressure. Although for the last part I do think that you can learn how to perform under pressure ( be "clutch"). Magnus is also a mentality beast, he knows he is the best player and that confidence gives him a massive advantage.
Really great choice to have Dubov on. A very interesting personality that we can all appreciate. I think its really great for the game of chess to have big personalities and unique personalities rather than dull, boring characters who show no personality. Make the game seem fun which in turn inspires chessplayers.
On talent, I can’t help but think people are trying to describe Gamesmanship. Because there’s chess and chess skills. Then there is the full integration of skills with the understanding that you are playing the human across from you. I think Magnus is a killer competitor and to me spends more time in a philosophical or strategic space.
Its like doing math. You can solve a question based on the way you learned or memorized but there are other students (very few but they exist). They can get clues in a whole different way and solve it differently even though no one taught it
Gamesmanship is a decent way to describe it. A more crass way to explain it would be to say that those who are the most talented are able to get the best results while /appearing/ to put in the least amount of work. Of course, it's possible to sandbag how much work gets put in and this is where it gets even more complicated.
@ agreed. I notice when I watch interviews and analysis Magnus doesn’t immediately go into calculation. It seems like a lot of other GMs get sucked into hard calculation almost instantly when asked about games and they get hung up trying to “solve”the chess part of the game. They zoom out to discuss thematics and things like that second. Magnus is the reverse. He seems loathe to calculate when he has such a strong vision and feeling for the meta game.
@@abe1863 Did radja actually had a year long period in his active career without a loss? he always looked like an aggressive player who never reached the very top due to loses here and there, surely there is a match history of his somewhere.
Dubov: I dont know I think careers in sports last longer now, maybe there is better health, or medicines they can take? What do you think Fabi? Christian: Yeah what do you think Fabi? Fabi: Well maybe there are some DRUGS.....
When Christian asked Dubov whether he got some inspiration from working with Magnus, weird he didnt mention he went to win 2018 world rapid championships
Что бы вы не говорили, но я понятия не имел, что у Даниила есть дочь 😅. Также нельзя не заметить разницу между откровенностью Даниила и возможно кого-то шокирующей категоричностью его суждений и осторожной позицией Фаби по любому вопросу. Еще на контрасте я заметил, что Даниила немного трудно слушать, потому что он заполняет всё пространство вокруг и узурпирует внимание 😂, загораясь внезапной мыслью.
Awesome podcast again! One thing that stood out to me, though, is that Christian, as the moderator, sometimes seems to struggle with finding the right balance between moderating and participating. He tends to interrupt the flow of the conversation, especially when Fabi or the guest is speaking. Fabi often brings the most valuable insights, and it would be great if Christian could step back a bit more and let the discussion flow more naturally. I totally understand that moderating isn't easy, but a lighter touch could really enhance the overall dynamic. Just some thoughts from my side - curious to hear if others feel the same way or have different perspectives! 😊
I don't get that feeling at all. The only complaint I have about this interview is that I wanted to hear more. Dubov is always interesting. It seemed to me that Cristian found an excellent balance in his moderation, allowing Fabi and Dubov to take the conversation wherever they wanted to and only nudging things towards a new topic they were hoping to cover in the time they had. I wish they had spent half their time on cheating, but that's just me. I think cheating is an existential threat to the game and if there is any hope in fighting it, the honest players in the world can never allow it to become a background topic.
great interview! you guys killed it! very nice. Pls always invite Dubov, unlike rest of boring GMs who don't like to talk much, Danya is honestly expressing himself
I think I understand Dubov's perspective better now. He sees talent as finding joy in the beauty and art of chess, like Magnus, who studies old masters out of genuine interest, hates prep, and approaches the game with childlike wonder. Dubov probably values this "authentic" love for chess over the "competitive mindset" of grinding computer lines for an edge, which might explain why he resonates with Magnus but struggles to relate to players like Fabi, who may simply appreciate chess differently.
Not being a chess phenom myself, I can only guess, but I suspect what happens to a lot of players is they transition from being an optimist to being a realist. Optimism and realism both have their benefits, but it does change the decision making. Optimism enables people to do things against the odds. Realism enables people to adjust to the odds. When you're young, your rating is tracking up, you are playing people who aren't at your level, you win more than you lose. When you're older, you've found your rating, you win and lose at about the same rate, and you have to really appraise the situation (the opponent, the position) realistically to survive. This is my guess as what's part of the explanation.
@@RPS-iw4ci do you know this for certain? I mean Fabi said he thought he suspected the same person as Dubov. I’ve never heard Fabi hint toward Hikaru being a cheater, but maybe I missed something?
@@RPS-iw4ci I was suspicious too - but Fabio game against Naka was a 14 move draw by repetition. Surely no "this guy used an engine" after that game like he said before. Radjabov and Dings games were suspicious, Ding did very bad overall in the tour, Radjabov did quite well. So.. I dunno, but if I had to bet..
The scale of Magnus dickriding is actually CRAZY, and the craziest part is that it comes from all the best players, so it's impossible to argue against
I cannot understand why there was so much misunderstanding of what Dubov said the first time. Of course, Fabiano is one of the best players in the world, and his talent is exceptional, but if you take the 10 best players in the world, the individual characteristics that make you the best player are bound to be different, hence having somewhat of a ranking system. Two of the best players cannot have exactly the same talent, so I totally get that Fabiano in that aspect may be the "least" talented in the top 10. It might be a slight margin, but on a scale none the less.
1:13:20 does anyone know who they are referring to in terms of cheating suspicions in 2021? "if you don't lose a game for a year you always make the list"
@@RPS-iw4ciI'm almost positive they're talking about the 2021 Champions Chess tour there and the Grand Final he said was sus was Anish and Ian. Hikaru was out in Quarter Finals.
Respect to Dubov for refusing to accept serial-cheaters in chess. It's unacceptable that Hans is allowed to contiue playing while he *continues to claim* that he *only cheated twice* and *never in monied tournaments* when the Chesscom Fairplay Team's Hans Report notes that he likely cheated *HUNDREDS* of times and *in monied tournaments.* Hans made the "only twice" claim at Sinquefield in *2021,* this is recent and shows his character. I don't trust his play or his integrity and never will.
Talent just means how much benefit do you get per unit time worked. If two people work for 100 hours, one will get more out of it, meaning they're more talented.
I strongly disagree with this definition. Different people work differently. 2 hours for one person might be as productive as 5 hours for someone else. This seems to be a function of experience, not talent.
@@mookz34 Another possible problem with the definition is that talent is usually assumed to be very strongly dependent of potential, and though the benefit you receive per unit time worked in a certain way almost certainly strongly correlates with how strong you're capable of becoming if you keep the same work, and the benefit you receive working the best possible ways for your conditions per unit of time must also correlate with your ideal potential peak, they are also almost certainly not identical.
I think the amount of "benefit" for different number of hours put in is non-linear and is a different "equation" for different people. Also, the "benefit" itself may be hard to define. So, all these discussions are really reductive of the topic.
As a 50 year old I'm interested in this concept of the brain aging and losing neuroplasticity making it harder to learn. I still have to keep learning for my work but it does take more effort. Brain processing speed apparently peaks in the 20's, so perhaps it's reasonable to assume that older players are going to find blitz harder.
Dubov is right. Not that Fabiano does not have the talent but just not in the level of Magnus and for him to be able to compete with Magnus on even terms due to hard work and perseverance certainly deserves a lot of admiration. While it is not possible to emulate talent, hard work can surely be.
No one is arguing with this. Danils original statement was "Fabiano is the least talented of the top 30", which is a ridiculous statement. Danils peak rating was 2720, Fabiano's was 2844, the third highest in history. In the 2018 world chess championship it was only a 3 point difference between Fabi and Magnus (Fabi 2832, Magnus 2835). Even Magnus said that Fabi was his strongest opponent in classical. Does anyone really believe that only hard work seperates Fabi from the rest?
She is very confident and doesn't back down against anyone. That's what I observed from her conversations. She is an objective attacker and similarly has a rounded personality to carry her confidence without going crazy.
1:10:20 daughter was born wtf! I thought Dubov was unmarried or recently got married because I heard he had gf but never heard about him having a wife.
Only Fabi would have the class to invite the guy who cast doubt on his talent in chess. Many others would have a meltdown. instead we get an interesting discussion.
Absolutely not. If he meant intuition, he would have said "intuition." Russian has this term, and it means exactly the same as it does in English. This entire discussion about "talent" arose because, even though the translation is correct, the word "talent" is used differently in Russian compared to English. Dubov even tried to clarify what he meant in the original source, but it seems that for someone who isn’t Russian, it’s hard to grasp the difference. In Russian, "talent" refers to something entirely exclusive, associated with an innate creativity that cannot be achieved through any amount of training or practice. Intuition, on the other hand, is almost the opposite, as intuition improves over time-the more you learn and practice, the better your intuition becomes.
not really. Talent is simply "better understanding". And it can be for literally anything. And it exists for sure. My explanation of this is that people tend to do stuff better that they like. And as a kid when you like something more your brain works on that and develops a long lasting better understanding. For example some people like games more than others. And when playing games their brain puts more effort in it than others because you are enjoying it. And if you do it as a kid you would be better than everyone else. Some people lile doing maths. And they somehow can pick up clues in a question that others will overlook. Its because their brain gets the satisfaction and wants to do better. And as they have been doing it since childhood, their brain has programmed for it better.
Of you have talent your knowledge of the game leads to good intuition. I think there is a reason he mentions physical fitness. Because the system needs be greased and if there is relaxation en flow, then the system gives the best result. How good these results are with the same amount of input as knowledge and training that probably is talent...
29:42 Interesting you should mention Novak Djokovic. He appears to be on a steep decline compared to his past sustained top level. It's been happening ever since he caught something during the 2024 Australian Open - something he refused to get a test for. If you search the medical literature, that unmentionable thing can affect every organ in the body, including the brain. It'll be interesting to see if he manages to turn his form around at the 2025 Australian Open - the odds are going to increasingly against him, hence his recent vocal output about doping in sport. We saw the same happen to Ding, and possibly Magnus too of late.
i am from India but dubov is my favorite player of modern times and my all time favorite player is Tal . I like these players who are creative and shows us the real beauty of chess rather than boring therotical draws.
You being from India has no relation who your favorite player is. There is a difference that your support someone from your country and who your favorite player
This isn’t milking. This is simply a conversation about the chess world on a chess podcast. Hikaru and Levy are the goat milkers, taking every little thing that Magnus does and making 25 min RUclips video about it. This conversation is about Dubov and a big part of his career was working with Magnus, so obviously they’re going to discuss it
For anyone that will comment about the nap, the interview was before the world championships in new york
Spoiler!! Now I have to close the video.. ok just kidding
World championship
it was before the World Cup, why did they wait months to release it??
@@anshumanswain9903 correct that's what I meant
@@oliver-04 Clickbait!
Great to see Dubov and Fabi in the same podcast.
Idk what anyone else says but i like how clear dubov is. He is basically saying everything he believes without sugarcoating
Yeah but nowadays people dont like that ...
@@afterneet4421 it is criticized but people subconsciously appreciate it. everyone loves some low stakes conflict.
Two completely different personalities, Fabi and Dubov. Fabi is super solid, consistent, logical. Dubov seems like an ecentric, go wih a flow. That must influence a playstyle
Great interview
Dubov is insane is all. The OG Crazy Online Cheating Accuser. He has to let the Hikaru stuff go.
Fabi is not super solid. More or less, he plays on the edge, unlike Anish or Wesley.
@mg8224 yes not only he Fabi NOT super solid, he also isn't as logical. Someone talking in a cool and collected manner doesnt make them logical. He is the opposite, very emotional. He chess shows that passion and hard work. On the egde.
@@dunno23 yes
Conversations with Dubov are so interesting
Just started watching and Dubovs first sentence after the introduction is gold already.
And here i thought nothing can get worse than fabi's cam. Dubov looks like he's recording behind bar in Russia.
It's some kind of rule of nature. All Russians must use the worst webcams you've ever seen, and, bizarrely, the more they look like the "skinny gamer" type, the worse the cam is.
probably on purpose
He's saying his final peace before the Wagner group takes him 😭
@@noriakikakyoin8841 not on purpose the dude just needs to get a face cam lmao
the content coming from this channel is priceless, keep it up!
Thanks! More to come!😊
Dubov is that one manhwa character who gets introduced mid story as some op fun character from a foreign country, who's serious fun and most importantly not strongest.
True
Ivanchuk would be another great interview, hes played just about everyone in the modern era. Would enjoy his thoughts on pretty much anything chess related.
And pretty much beat everyone in his hay days. Vasyl is a gem ❤ He is probably the only active player from his generation, other than probably Adams, although Adams doesn't play much, even Anand doesn't. I believe just like Yasser, Ivanchuk would be a "grandfather with so many stories to tell for a kid" . I'll gladly be the kid to hear his stories over the years ❤
Only problem is that Vasyl doesn't know when to stop once he gets talking so it might be difficult to do like an hour long interview and cover many topics. Look up his interview with Tania Sachdev.
Would be great in theory, but he'd spend 95% of the time 23-moves-deep in an analysis of some rare line in the Grunfeld.
Dubov with his Soviet era webcam
kind of like it, not that he does not have enough money to buy better one..
😂
Dubov has a daughter, had no idea he had a family
when does he say that??
@ivett1213 1:10:21
I didn't know how old he was until now. I legit thought he was a decade younger than he is.
He looks more like a teenager then most actual teenagers in chess - all that intense study kids do now must be taking years off their life!
@@brian3634 yeah he still looks a teen
This made me like Dubov so much more!
Dubov has such an unorthodox personality in the chess world, I love the way he represents his opinions on a topic 😹😹 it was soo interesting to watch Fabi's calm and collected personality with Dubov's energetic personality. W intervieww 🔥🔥
Big fan of both
Happy to see Fabi was so not offended he invited him here. That is true self confidence for you
Just the presence of Fabi makes a conversation more sane cordial and logical. I really hope he wins the next candidate and have another shot at WCC
dubov is hilarious and so bold, fan
Dubov is insane. The toxic OG Crazy Online Cheating Accuser.
This interview was gold, amazing Christian and Fabi ! Would love to see Wesley So, Rapport, Grischuk, and JK Duda on the podcast .
Great interview. The back and forth between Dubuv and Fabi was amazing to listen to. Two of the best by far chess players in the world talking was really cool.
They are not the two best in my opinion, Magnus and Ian are better than these two in my opinion.
@@nipunmehta8782fabi is better than Ian in my opinion
@@nipunmehta8782I think he means like top 20 players belonging to the best. (Of course omitting the fact that Fabi’s peak classical rating is ridiculous)
Fabi is a deep and accurate calculator with a nuanced ability to evaluate the balance of the position. Better in slow games.
I love Dubov‘s Cadence. It’s literally: ➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️⤴️
Dubov is a great guy!.. And I can't help it but I appreciate Fabi more and more...A very unique character for his "authenticity"... And for his indisputable TALENT! A real gentleman. Gentleman Fabi!
Its always great to hear what dubov has to say. also im glad he got to expand on what he meant by his talent comment.
We need more personalities like him
PHN went into detail about how the last WC team was formed when he filmed the bts series with Gusty and Fress. Not sure if that’s still available to watch though since it was a Chess24/PMG special series.
Yeah I was looking for that series actually but couldn't find anywhere. Back then I was a high schooler so I couldn't afford it but now I have some savings but the video's not available. Do you know where to get it by any chance?
one of your greatest podcasts episodes, thanks for this great content,
Christian, you’re a rockstar for bringing dubov on holy moly
I think talent could take some natural abilities, I'm surprised no one talked about it. But for example for magnus, he has eidetic memory. Which is honestly a talent and a Dann good one for a chess player
Memory was under mentioned. A talent for competition too. I wouldn't fancy playing Kasparov or Magnus at any game or sport. They are both ruthless and hate losing. Its an important quality in one on one activities.
Dubov is the most creative and talented player. With a peak classical rating of 2720.
Dubov + engine.
@@sthetatosEvery top player is assisted by engines.
@@Ytremz Every engine is assisted by a player.
I believe "talent" intuitively often is defined as creative, which is more fun and tangible, than being solid and structured
Dubov is priceless. You can really love that character.
Fantastic. Dubov is very interesting. Csquared is best.
Cristian is in full focus mode trying to understand Dubov. 😂 Also, I’m now refreshing Hikaru’s page every 30 seconds to see his breakdown of this discussion…
hey christian, so glad i got to say hi to you at pan-ams in charlotte!
Dubov loves the word “generally”! 😂
It is a common word to use in Russian and one of the first English words learned by Russians
@@flopasen
You're generalizing now...oh blyat!
It's very helpful for ideas generating and for strategic thinking, or for vision of common patterns etc
@@flopasen you are generally right, wait... blyat...
Dubov seems like a very nice person
Fabi is a chess god. And I love the treasure troll vibe he’s got going on in this video.
Dubov have mad respect for Fabi. Great to see these two beasts in a podcast.
Did you guys increment your "yeah?" pace to match Dubov's?
I found that hillarious!
Talent definition : 1. natural aptitude or skill.
Everyone is working hard to reach and maintain that level, so there must be something that makes one or another better, make better/faster decisions and also do it under pressure. Although for the last part I do think that you can learn how to perform under pressure ( be "clutch").
Magnus is also a mentality beast, he knows he is the best player and that confidence gives him a massive advantage.
When Dubov is talking to Chotham vs Fabi is so different 😂 Dobov thinking every detail of his speech before saying it in front of Fabi😂
Really great choice to have Dubov on. A very interesting personality that we can all appreciate. I think its really great for the game of chess to have big personalities and unique personalities rather than dull, boring characters who show no personality. Make the game seem fun which in turn inspires chessplayers.
On talent, I can’t help but think people are trying to describe Gamesmanship. Because there’s chess and chess skills. Then there is the full integration of skills with the understanding that you are playing the human across from you. I think Magnus is a killer competitor and to me spends more time in a philosophical or strategic space.
Its like doing math.
You can solve a question based on the way you learned or memorized but there are other students (very few but they exist). They can get clues in a whole different way and solve it differently even though no one taught it
Gamesmanship is a decent way to describe it. A more crass way to explain it would be to say that those who are the most talented are able to get the best results while /appearing/ to put in the least amount of work. Of course, it's possible to sandbag how much work gets put in and this is where it gets even more complicated.
@ agreed. I notice when I watch interviews and analysis Magnus doesn’t immediately go into calculation. It seems like a lot of other GMs get sucked into hard calculation almost instantly when asked about games and they get hung up trying to “solve”the chess part of the game. They zoom out to discuss thematics and things like that second. Magnus is the reverse. He seems loathe to calculate when he has such a strong vision and feeling for the meta game.
Awesome ep, fellas!
1:13:35 Who is the player Daniil and Fabi are thinking about? (not losing a game in a year)
would like to know to if anyone has an idea!
saw further down that it's probably radjabov
Following this thread to find if someone answers this
@@abe1863 no way radjabov would cheat 😭
@@abe1863 Did radja actually had a year long period in his active career without a loss? he always looked like an aggressive player who never reached the very top due to loses here and there, surely there is a match history of his somewhere.
excited to listen to this one. Dubov always so well spoken
Dubov is Niccolò Machiavelli of chess !!
Philosophy on life is interesting
Really looking forward to this one 😊
Dubov: I dont know I think careers in sports last longer now, maybe there is better health, or medicines they can take? What do you think Fabi?
Christian: Yeah what do you think Fabi?
Fabi: Well maybe there are some DRUGS.....
5 cans of red bull
This was my favourite Episode to watch! I think Fabi should invite Daniil to his team this time
When Christian asked Dubov whether he got some inspiration from working with Magnus, weird he didnt mention he went to win 2018 world rapid championships
Что бы вы не говорили, но я понятия не имел, что у Даниила есть дочь 😅.
Также нельзя не заметить разницу между откровенностью Даниила и возможно кого-то шокирующей категоричностью его суждений и осторожной позицией Фаби по любому вопросу. Еще на контрасте я заметил, что Даниила немного трудно слушать, потому что он заполняет всё пространство вокруг и узурпирует внимание 😂, загораясь внезапной мыслью.
Christian asking Daniil about pushing past 2730 😁
he can't
I thought it was hilarious that Dubov seemed to not understand that this question was a diss....
A second part after NY events can be greatly appreciated
Awesome podcast again!
One thing that stood out to me, though, is that Christian, as the moderator, sometimes seems to struggle with finding the right balance between moderating and participating. He tends to interrupt the flow of the conversation, especially when Fabi or the guest is speaking. Fabi often brings the most valuable insights, and it would be great if Christian could step back a bit more and let the discussion flow more naturally.
I totally understand that moderating isn't easy, but a lighter touch could really enhance the overall dynamic. Just some thoughts from my side - curious to hear if others feel the same way or have different perspectives! 😊
I don't get that feeling at all. The only complaint I have about this interview is that I wanted to hear more. Dubov is always interesting. It seemed to me that Cristian found an excellent balance in his moderation, allowing Fabi and Dubov to take the conversation wherever they wanted to and only nudging things towards a new topic they were hoping to cover in the time they had. I wish they had spent half their time on cheating, but that's just me. I think cheating is an existential threat to the game and if there is any hope in fighting it, the honest players in the world can never allow it to become a background topic.
Delusional take, Cristian is one of the best moderators/interviewers in chess. What are you even talking about?
great interview! you guys killed it! very nice. Pls always invite Dubov, unlike rest of boring GMs who don't like to talk much, Danya is honestly expressing himself
This was pretty good.
I hope C Sqaured reaches 100K really soon ❤
I think I understand Dubov's perspective better now. He sees talent as finding joy in the beauty and art of chess, like Magnus, who studies old masters out of genuine interest, hates prep, and approaches the game with childlike wonder. Dubov probably values this "authentic" love for chess over the "competitive mindset" of grinding computer lines for an edge, which might explain why he resonates with Magnus but struggles to relate to players like Fabi, who may simply appreciate chess differently.
Not being a chess phenom myself, I can only guess, but I suspect what happens to a lot of players is they transition from being an optimist to being a realist. Optimism and realism both have their benefits, but it does change the decision making. Optimism enables people to do things against the odds. Realism enables people to adjust to the odds. When you're young, your rating is tracking up, you are playing people who aren't at your level, you win more than you lose. When you're older, you've found your rating, you win and lose at about the same rate, and you have to really appraise the situation (the opponent, the position) realistically to survive. This is my guess as what's part of the explanation.
1:10:23 Dubov is a father? I would have never imagined that
Was thinking exactly the same!
So who were they talking about at 1:13:00?
Hikaru
@@RPS-iw4ci do you know this for certain? I mean Fabi said he thought he suspected the same person as Dubov. I’ve never heard Fabi hint toward Hikaru being a cheater, but maybe I missed something?
It's Radjabov I think
Radjabov
@@RPS-iw4ci I was suspicious too - but Fabio game against Naka was a 14 move draw by repetition. Surely no "this guy used an engine" after that game like he said before. Radjabov and Dings games were suspicious, Ding did very bad overall in the tour, Radjabov did quite well. So.. I dunno, but if I had to bet..
The scale of Magnus dickriding is actually CRAZY, and the craziest part is that it comes from all the best players, so it's impossible to argue against
The top guys in the world say he's better than them which he clearly is, how is that glazing?
Incredible!!! Interview!!!
How many times have dubov said generally😂 but loved the way how bold he is
who are they talking about at 1:13:30 when dubov says they havent lost a game in a year
Hikaru
Are u sure?
Hikaru. This is well known
It's got to be. Check the Grand Chess Tour finals from 2020 that Dubov mentions as the start of his suspicions. Dubov lost to Hikaru.
Its not hikaru, its someone whos been shadowbanned by organisers, which naka clearly isbt. Its radjabov
1:01:42 this part is ao important to listen even whole 46:40 part
I cannot understand why there was so much misunderstanding of what Dubov said the first time. Of course, Fabiano is one of the best players in the world, and his talent is exceptional, but if you take the 10 best players in the world, the individual characteristics that make you the best player are bound to be different, hence having somewhat of a ranking system. Two of the best players cannot have exactly the same talent, so I totally get that Fabiano in that aspect may be the "least" talented in the top 10. It might be a slight margin, but on a scale none the less.
Yeah people absolutely dont get the context their attention span is peanut
He said least talented in the top 30. Meanwhle Fabi is probably second best in freestyle, which involves no prep work. So whats the basis?
Does Fabi disagree?
Dubov is a great interview
Naka is going to diss Fabiano now…Levi about to have new milking drama
Why
He disses everyone. A miserable man he is.
@@KeratokonusErfahrungthey lack original personality and has to rely on other players to make “good content”
Drinking game for the episode - take a shot every time Dubov says 'I mean...'
1:13:20 does anyone know who they are referring to in terms of cheating suspicions in 2021? "if you don't lose a game for a year you always make the list"
Waiting for part 2. We need more of Danya and to address the (sleeping ) elephant in the room
Very nice discussion
Dubov still talking about his time as a second to Magnus in every interview is kinda funny.
Dubov's glory is like a moon light. He needs a sun like Magnus, his glory is a reflected one and Magnus is a setting sun.
he got too close to the sun.. now he's cooked
literal negative rated chess weirdos talking about chess 😂😂😂, funny ah
I can bet that none of you actually understood anything they talked about in this video, excluding the chess notations 😂😂😂
because he is a mediocre GM
Who are they talking about at 1:14:00 ?
Hikaru
Are you sure it's hikaru?
Are you sure?@@RPS-iw4ci
It's Radjabov I think
@@RPS-iw4ciI'm almost positive they're talking about the 2021 Champions Chess tour there and the Grand Final he said was sus was Anish and Ian. Hikaru was out in Quarter Finals.
Respect to Dubov for refusing to accept serial-cheaters in chess. It's unacceptable that Hans is allowed to contiue playing while he *continues to claim* that he *only cheated twice* and *never in monied tournaments* when the Chesscom Fairplay Team's Hans Report notes that he likely cheated *HUNDREDS* of times and *in monied tournaments.* Hans made the "only twice" claim at Sinquefield in *2021,* this is recent and shows his character. I don't trust his play or his integrity and never will.
Talent just means how much benefit do you get per unit time worked. If two people work for 100 hours, one will get more out of it, meaning they're more talented.
I strongly disagree with this definition. Different people work differently. 2 hours for one person might be as productive as 5 hours for someone else. This seems to be a function of experience, not talent.
@@mookz34 Another possible problem with the definition is that talent is usually assumed to be very strongly dependent of potential, and though the benefit you receive per unit time worked in a certain way almost certainly strongly correlates with how strong you're capable of becoming if you keep the same work, and the benefit you receive working the best possible ways for your conditions per unit of time must also correlate with your ideal potential peak, they are also almost certainly not identical.
Yet, that's a fairly good try. I think OP can aprimorate his definition.
I think the amount of "benefit" for different number of hours put in is non-linear and is a different "equation" for different people. Also, the "benefit" itself may be hard to define. So, all these discussions are really reductive of the topic.
@@JoataVideos talent is an excuse given for winning, when there is no other obvious factors of why did the player win.
Dubov's camera has to be from a Kyocera Visual Phone VP-210
Nonetheless great podcast thanks for having Dubov
As a 50 year old I'm interested in this concept of the brain aging and losing neuroplasticity making it harder to learn. I still have to keep learning for my work but it does take more effort.
Brain processing speed apparently peaks in the 20's, so perhaps it's reasonable to assume that older players are going to find blitz harder.
Same. It's sad. It is compensated with experience, memory, a more general comprehension but it does not fix everything
Am i the first one who did not know about Dubov's daughter?
me too man
Dubov is right. Not that Fabiano does not have the talent but just not in the level of Magnus and for him to be able to compete with Magnus on even terms due to hard work and perseverance certainly deserves a lot of admiration. While it is not possible to emulate talent, hard work can surely be.
Did u watch 2018 wcc?
@@Phymacss - I did.
@@MiddleClassCitizen I misread the second sentence sorry, thought you were saying they can’t compete in the same level lol
Hes completely full of shit. He said Fabi has the least talent of anyone in top 30. Based on what? Its a dumb thing to say.
No one is arguing with this. Danils original statement was "Fabiano is the least talented of the top 30", which is a ridiculous statement.
Danils peak rating was 2720, Fabiano's was 2844, the third highest in history.
In the 2018 world chess championship it was only a 3 point difference between Fabi and Magnus (Fabi 2832, Magnus 2835).
Even Magnus said that Fabi was his strongest opponent in classical.
Does anyone really believe that only hard work seperates Fabi from the rest?
Dubov is naturally so funny
If the playingstyl reflects personality.... then the attacking player Judith Polagr must be crazy.
She is very confident and doesn't back down against anyone. That's what I observed from her conversations. She is an objective attacker and similarly has a rounded personality to carry her confidence without going crazy.
@knowthefundamentals3774 the point was to show that she is not crazy. But her chess is crazy attacks.
@@Monika77fulThere is better word for it - optimistic.
you realize white can play against Pirc and Benoni one of 50+ setups which is very hard to remember and so much is unknown
1:10:20 daughter was born
wtf!
I thought Dubov was unmarried or recently got married because I heard he had gf but never heard about him having a wife.
Umm you know you can have a child with your gf?
Well you don't have to be married to have a daughter
Only Fabi would have the class to invite the guy who cast doubt on his talent in chess. Many others would have a meltdown. instead we get an interesting discussion.
A better man than me
@@andrewroberts8139 Better than most of us.
Not others only hikaru
may I remind you that the said "doubt" was meant as a compliment towards the efforts and Fabi understood that
@kieslowski1709 It's what we call a backhanded compliment.
Interesting character Dubov
I think what Dubov thinks is talent is intuition
Absolutely not. If he meant intuition, he would have said "intuition." Russian has this term, and it means exactly the same as it does in English. This entire discussion about "talent" arose because, even though the translation is correct, the word "talent" is used differently in Russian compared to English. Dubov even tried to clarify what he meant in the original source, but it seems that for someone who isn’t Russian, it’s hard to grasp the difference.
In Russian, "talent" refers to something entirely exclusive, associated with an innate creativity that cannot be achieved through any amount of training or practice. Intuition, on the other hand, is almost the opposite, as intuition improves over time-the more you learn and practice, the better your intuition becomes.
not really. Talent is simply "better understanding". And it can be for literally anything.
And it exists for sure. My explanation of this is that people tend to do stuff better that they like. And as a kid when you like something more your brain works on that and develops a long lasting better understanding.
For example some people like games more than others. And when playing games their brain puts more effort in it than others because you are enjoying it. And if you do it as a kid you would be better than everyone else.
Some people lile doing maths. And they somehow can pick up clues in a question that others will overlook. Its because their brain gets the satisfaction and wants to do better. And as they have been doing it since childhood, their brain has programmed for it better.
Of you have talent your knowledge of the game leads to good intuition. I think there is a reason he mentions physical fitness. Because the system needs be greased and if there is relaxation en flow, then the system gives the best result. How good these results are with the same amount of input as knowledge and training that probably is talent...
29:42 Interesting you should mention Novak Djokovic. He appears to be on a steep decline compared to his past sustained top level. It's been happening ever since he caught something during the 2024 Australian Open - something he refused to get a test for. If you search the medical literature, that unmentionable thing can affect every organ in the body, including the brain. It'll be interesting to see if he manages to turn his form around at the 2025 Australian Open - the odds are going to increasingly against him, hence his recent vocal output about doping in sport. We saw the same happen to Ding, and possibly Magnus too of late.
Interesting 😎 podcast
Dubov has a child?!?!?! Why is it so unexpected for me....
We need to find this player 1:13:05
who didn't lose a single game that year?
I assumed it was Hikaru?
@@goochie260ding
What gave you that impression? If it was hikaru I would think there would be a little more noise. Maybe its mamedyarov or radjabov?
With all my extensive research of 30 seconds, it could be Vladislav Artemiev.
if I received a dollar for every time Dubov said "Generally"
But ok
@iJoxy lol
Being able to put in hard work and be willing to learn IS talent in and of itself.
i am from India but dubov is my favorite player of modern times and my all time favorite player is Tal . I like these players who are creative and shows us the real beauty of chess rather than boring therotical draws.
And also insinuate that Gukesh win was a match fixing by his tweets. Think again
@@arkzbh that was Ian nepo not dubov.
@@785lucky both of them
If you let his personal opinions get in the way of your evaluation of his chess are you even a chess fan?
You being from India has no relation who your favorite player is. There is a difference that your support someone from your country and who your favorite player
no I wonder which name they had in mind (not losing a game for a year?)
Haters (0.01% of chess fans) will say now caruana is milking magnus.
Of course he is. As a content creator, he'd be an utter idiot not to "milk the GOAT". The dumbdumbs are the ones who think that's inherently bad.
@@kattee1956he simply doesn’t need to
This isn’t milking. This is simply a conversation about the chess world on a chess podcast. Hikaru and Levy are the goat milkers, taking every little thing that Magnus does and making 25 min RUclips video about it. This conversation is about Dubov and a big part of his career was working with Magnus, so obviously they’re going to discuss it
@@kattee1956 fabi doesn't need magnus he himself has an independent fanbase
@@lobsterboy8148 Exactly.
Generally speaking, Dubov does use the word 'generally' quite often.
Need him on post "sleep gambit" though- maybe unlikely to get anything else for interesting than his interview with levy