run is done and it was good but was very underpowered until act 3 which then it rapidly became really strong. For most of run i was only doing one attack but then i got the dual wielder feat and college of swords extra attack then suddenly i could smite 4 times a turn.
Torn between the rogue 4 levels or just going straight 2/10 paladin sword bard. Kinda like assassin for flavour with minthy but see how strong thief is, used it alot i love in the comments everyone here for minthara ideas, guess patch 7 got people on evil runs, grove having a bad time
This huge I'm gonna build minthara this way gonna have her with the 18 dex gloves and cats grace armour to get dex to 20 just bc im only lvl 7 rite now i can boost other stats up alot
This is a painful build to actually play. You are what... 7th-level and still don't have extra attack, only have 2d6 sneak attack damage, no feats/ASIs, still casting 1st-level spells, and only have limited spell slots for smiting.
I don't disagree. From a natural progression, it makes the most sense to go Paladin 12, split to 8/4 Pally/Rogue, and skip the Bard. I'd do Pally 15/Rogue 5. Two attacks, three sneak attack dice, saving throw buffs, cunning action, and 4 ASI/Feats. Granted, I've only played the 5e tabletop, not BG3.
@@Thatguyinabox BG3 has a level cap of 12. I don't see the point of respecting at 12th level to Paladin/8, Rogue/4, you'd gain 2d6 sneak attack, skills, cunning action, in return for fewer hit point, some strange ability scores, giving up heavy armor, third-level spells, and a lot of smiting potential. You'd already have gone 90% of the game filling in the rogue's role with someone else.
I did enjoy this build and I am interested to test it. But I really don’t understand why sell it as a Rogue build. With three levels, sneak attack will be a smaller part of the damage. The addition of bard dilutes any rogue flavor that the build could have. Call for what it is: a bardadin.
I tested many variations of this and putting higher levels of Rogue made it weak. Higher levels of Paladin didn’t give us enough spell slots to smite and such. We get all the usefulness from the Rogue in here with sneak attack, proficiencies, extra bonus action and the cunning actions so it’s still a rogue build, I just didn’t want it to suck for you guys lol
@@JasonDunna I understand your point. But, even though you added a few rogue levels in this build, I wouldn’t call it a rogue build. It’s a matter of how we define what a X build is. Here I see the following problems: you used more bard levels than rogue levels; bard levels have, in my opinion, a tendency to overwhelm the rogue flavor/RP; sneak attack is secondary for this build (I’m second third edition player, for me sneak attack is one of the defining rogue mechanics). The last problem, is a 5e and BG3 implementation problem…
@@rodolfokatz5098I called this an OP rogue Paladin because it’s stronger than staying with just rogue levels which usually don’t add much after level 4. The main function of this build is to sneak attack and use our smites with that! Adding the bard gives us extremely useful crowd control and with the band of the mystic scoundrel we can cast them as bonus actions! Flourishes are also very useful if we can’t get into stealth AND the bard gives us invisibility cast as a bonus action!
@@JasonDunna yes, I find it hard to justify going more than rogue 4 if I want to maximize the power of my character. Nevertheless, I forced myself to go with a thief 7/ battle master 5 dual wielder in one run and it was extremely satisfying to be targeted by Ansur’s breath and take 0 damage due to evasion.
If you want to use great weapon fight you can get phalar aluve dancing breeze or the other dex long sword from the creshe(can’t remember the name)
They are all dex weapons
doing this next thankyou jay
Glad you enjoyed!! Have a good one!
run is done and it was good but was very underpowered until act 3 which then it rapidly became really strong. For most of run i was only doing one attack but then i got the dual wielder feat and college of swords extra attack then suddenly i could smite 4 times a turn.
Nice jay
Thanks Gavrock!
Torn between the rogue 4 levels or just going straight 2/10 paladin sword bard. Kinda like assassin for flavour with minthy but see how strong thief is, used it alot
i love in the comments everyone here for minthara ideas, guess patch 7 got people on evil runs, grove having a bad time
Hmmm, this might be perfect for Minthara
Fantastic idea!
I have Minthara as a Sporedruid in my playthrough because she’s from the Underdark but this would make sense as well!
This huge I'm gonna build minthara this way gonna have her with the 18 dex gloves and cats grace armour to get dex to 20 just bc im only lvl 7 rite now i can boost other stats up alot
That’s a solid idea! Have fun with it
This is a painful build to actually play.
You are what... 7th-level and still don't have extra attack, only have 2d6 sneak attack damage, no feats/ASIs, still casting 1st-level spells, and only have limited spell slots for smiting.
I don't disagree. From a natural progression, it makes the most sense to go Paladin 12, split to 8/4 Pally/Rogue, and skip the Bard. I'd do Pally 15/Rogue 5. Two attacks, three sneak attack dice, saving throw buffs, cunning action, and 4 ASI/Feats. Granted, I've only played the 5e tabletop, not BG3.
@@Thatguyinabox BG3 has a level cap of 12. I don't see the point of respecting at 12th level to Paladin/8, Rogue/4, you'd gain 2d6 sneak attack, skills, cunning action, in return for fewer hit point, some strange ability scores, giving up heavy armor, third-level spells, and a lot of smiting potential. You'd already have gone 90% of the game filling in the rogue's role with someone else.
@@BW022 Ah. I thought it was like regular 5e! My bad.
I did enjoy this build and I am interested to test it. But I really don’t understand why sell it as a Rogue build. With three levels, sneak attack will be a smaller part of the damage. The addition of bard dilutes any rogue flavor that the build could have. Call for what it is: a bardadin.
I tested many variations of this and putting higher levels of Rogue made it weak. Higher levels of Paladin didn’t give us enough spell slots to smite and such. We get all the usefulness from the Rogue in here with sneak attack, proficiencies, extra bonus action and the cunning actions so it’s still a rogue build, I just didn’t want it to suck for you guys lol
@@JasonDunna I understand your point. But, even though you added a few rogue levels in this build, I wouldn’t call it a rogue build. It’s a matter of how we define what a X build is. Here I see the following problems: you used more bard levels than rogue levels; bard levels have, in my opinion, a tendency to overwhelm the rogue flavor/RP; sneak attack is secondary for this build (I’m second third edition player, for me sneak attack is one of the defining rogue mechanics). The last problem, is a 5e and BG3 implementation problem…
Just wanted to add that I really enjoyed this build. And I understand that my criticism is purely subjective and an opinion on how to name builds.
@@rodolfokatz5098I called this an OP rogue Paladin because it’s stronger than staying with just rogue levels which usually don’t add much after level 4. The main function of this build is to sneak attack and use our smites with that! Adding the bard gives us extremely useful crowd control and with the band of the mystic scoundrel we can cast them as bonus actions!
Flourishes are also very useful if we can’t get into stealth AND the bard gives us invisibility cast as a bonus action!
@@JasonDunna yes, I find it hard to justify going more than rogue 4 if I want to maximize the power of my character. Nevertheless, I forced myself to go with a thief 7/ battle master 5 dual wielder in one run and it was extremely satisfying to be targeted by Ansur’s breath and take 0 damage due to evasion.