Surfings getting too popular. I used to have sunrises to myself a few years ago but now even on shitty days there's always a pack assembled at sunrise. Give it 5 years and you're sunrise sesh spot will be packed.
I used to surf at sunrise before school when I was in high school and one day a shark hit my board, it wasn't big enough to hurt me or anything but that little bastard scared the shit out of me. I couldn't stay alone in the water for like half a year 😂😂😂😂 (sorry for my bad English writing I'm from Costa Rica, pura vida 🤙)
DoozieCone Not saying it’s bad that more people are enjoying the sport. I’m just saying the fun is not really sustainable because surf spots are so limited. Maybe it the future wave pools could help with this congestion.
Nelson Westerhout yep sadly "popular" spots are crowed early now. I'm grateful, where I surf, except during summer, I'm alone the morning. Surf is beautiful, let's enjoy what we have !
@Eihoofd2 I was 16 and only a few months into surfing when I got utterly fucked on by a wave that wasn’t huge but definitely bigger than what I could control.
I learned to surf many years ago in Australia, and it wasn't crowded then (one of the scenes looks like my old spot) and you learned the rules pretty quickly. There was a world champ named Nat Young who they called "The Animal". He was big and aggressive, would assault & bully other surfers and everyone was afraid of him. That went on for a couple of years until one day he punched out a kid in the waves. The kid's dad was on shore and saw it and waited till Nat came in and beat the shit out of him, required hours of reconstructive surgery. Word got around and everybody was glad. After that, Nat "got religion" and started giving talks about "surf rage" and being nice in the water. Last I heard he was in Colorado or someplace doing the ski thing. You can probably look him up online.
Good. Who is he to slap some kid over a breaker ? These surf bullies need to grow up. For that matter, some of these bullies could end up in prison where they become the bullied.
Glad a bloke hit his reset button. It's not too bad I find these days on the Sunny Coast but there is still a lot of tribalism. The "locals only" mind set is diminishing but still strong unfortunately on the Gold Coast, Central Coast etc.
Honestly, this is so important. I'm a beginner and I was afraid of going out and trying to catch waves because I didn't want to snake from the locals. I'm happy I know a bit more about the etiquette of surfing now. Thank you.
When you've been learning to surf by yourself for a whole year, watch this video and then cringe at how many of these rules you've broken at some point! :S
If you're learning in what might be called a tourist location the etiquette is pretty much unknown by everyone, which makes it hell dangerous. You can tell when you and others aren't following the etiquette, you feel like you're having near misses all the time that could result in injury or even worse, damage to your board.
Surfing was invented for the soul purpose of fun and relaxation. Now everyone takes it so seriously, and they’re missing the point. Ya I’ve dropped in on a few people, but I usually apologize if I know I got in the way, and 9/10 they are super cool about it cause they know it’s all about having a good time. You gotta have the zen attitude, or you’re not a surfer.
Accidents happen but some people seem to never look over their shoulder to see if they're dropping in on someone. No one expects perfection but a quick glance is important.
"You gotta have the zen attitude, or you’re not a surfer" I surfed OC for years and that's not true in my exp. I was not a good surfer but I did well enough to love it despite being constantly snaked.
and fun and relaxation is not facilitated by having a bunch of kooks around blowing waves and dropping in on people, getting in the way and generally being a danger to themselves and others.
Everyone forgets: there’s always another wave. I’ve been the losing side in so many of these exact situations. You just sorta throw your hands up and put some distance between you and the other fella and try to preserve the zen that the ocean offers.
I wish this video was around when I first started. I leaned how to surf on RUclips but I didn't know anything about etiquette. I learned most from just watching and observing in the water, but a few times I definitely did some bad things by accident. Luckily most of the people could tell by my sun damaged and duct taped nose that I was just starting and slowly educated me, but knowing this from the get go would have definitely saved me some embarrassing moments. Subscribed!
been surfing for 30 years...etiquette in So.Cal has changed....people just drop in on each other regularly and whoever is "better" or has more friends in the line-up claims it and stays on the wave. Especially at premiere breaks like Trestles and HB pier.
A couple others: don’t foil at popular surf spots. If you’re riding a SUP, catch a few and keep moving down the beach; you can cover more ground so don’t aggravate a single set of surfers by sticking in one area. If you have a longer board and are surfing around a lot of short boarders, use your crafts superior wave catching ability for good, not evil. Don’t be a wave hog.
Only thing I might add is really adhere to who's next, even if you're in a better position. There's a lot of grey areas; the ocean is infinitely variable, and there's subtle levels of entitlement (some valid and some less so). But especially when it's crowded, you've got to let people have their chance. 45 years surfing FWIW.
I hear you. But as you said, there’s so much variability. A new guy paddling out into the line up, or, groan-several. The wave shifts such that the guy in the priority spot is now too late. Does the next go? Potentially snowballing? Personally, I think if he’s paddling for it, and has priority, it’s his wave to blow. And if he can’t make it, back of the line. But I agree, we should all take stock of who has had what. Which requires awareness in the line up. Which really isn’t that hard. But then their are the guys that feign oblivion. They’re good surfers, so they’re not novices, but they manage to flout all the etiquette and then pretend they have no idea what’s going on when you call them on it. I do not buy that anyone surfing in SoCal who is above average doesn’t know the etiquette. There might be a small handful. But surfing like that in SoCal and people will call you on it at least once/session. But there is in no way as many obliviots as I’ve seen. So it’s on us to call them out. Personally I think it’s best if we don’t wait til it happens to us if we call it out. I’ve surfer local spots, and everyone knows the pecking order and the rules. If you’re new, and try and take advantage, the entire line up will swarm them.
Great vid and spot. I’d add: don’t just bring a group of 5 people and jump immediately into the lineup, clogging it and the break zone. And if you’re riding a longboard or SUP don’t abuse your board’s early wave catching ability and be a wave hog.
I surf away from other surfers. Yesterday and me and two female surfers, with a good 26 yards between us, respecting each others space, turned and saw a group of 8 people just paddle quickly - from where they were surfing previously - to directly in front of us, between the line up and the shore. Then they just threw water at each other and didn't attempt to catch any waves. Just blocked us from catching. Thing is the waves were better where they were surfing in the first place... Locals apparently...
A nice really comprehensive explanation of surf etiquette! Excellent video. I'll add one more thing: if you're a learner in the white water, watch the wave before you take off to ensure there isn't someone already riding it. If there is, then going for that wave too can cause a collision. I've had beginners try to catch the inside shore break on a wave I've ridden from out the back, and actually aim for me, completely clueless as to what's happening. So dangerous! Being aware of other surfers is essential for everyone's safety. That fin on my board is big and sharp, I don't want it to connect with anyone's head!
Thank you for sharing this. Surf etiquette is so important. This is needed for summer surf camps. I see so many of these in California and it is a free for all in the water and is so dangerous. I try to bring this up with the surf camp companies and this is a great video for counselors to teach at surf camps and lessons. Thank you again.
+ PRO TIP= DON'T HOG WAVES If u longboard and sit deepest, with easiest option to catch incoming waves, don't hog all them. Let some nice waves go by, so the shortboarders waiting on the inside can also enjoy good rides. Everyone sees this, cus you are in everyone's line of sight as they all look to horizon. It creates good vibes. When everyone gets waves, it makes the lineup a lot more fun.
Excellent video. I agree you must stay alert because even when you think it’s clear and you can catch the wave, you can be surprised if you hyper focus on a wave. It’s happened to me and I felt badly and wondered how did I not see the surfer with priority?
Excellent tips! For tip #6, communication can be challenging between a Deaf surfer and a Hearing surfer, although it’s possible for them to communicate with gestures and hand signals. There are several ways in nonverbal communication. I’m aware that Hearing people use their voice to let others know. However, this situation does not apply to Deaf people, so we must use our eyes to look around us and read the surfers’ body language for extra safety and minimizing the risks of misunderstanding.
These videos are so helpful! The video is great and the commentary very concise and clear. I even like the unobtrusive and relaxing music. This is top quality stuff and I'm learning so much. Thank you!
I'm not a surfer and will probably never surf but I've always been curious about certain rules on how surfers know who gets the next wave. This was interesting to watch!
I didn't formally know any of this when I surfed in my teens. But for the most part if you communicate who's taking which wave you're good. Usually people WILL holler at you if it looks like you're about to drop into their wave or doing something wrong so just listen. It's also essential to research conditions on multiple spots because there is a very finite capacity to most breaks and don't even get in the water if the water is more surfer than surface. If all else fails yell "PARTY WAVE" and just go for it lol.
Rule #1 of surf etiquette should be 'don't run others down'. Seen so many occasions where advanced guys nearly take out a weaker surfer by doubling back on a wave, simply choosing to take off when someone else is paddling out near them (This is on beach breaks where there is no definitive breaking point for the wave) or riding a wave for long enough that they're certain to cross paths with someone paddling out. Ultimately if you're more advanced you're going to be a stronger swimmer with more control over the board and a collision has the potential to be fatal. Had an incident just this week with a short-boarder fighting to stay up on a dying wave, changing his direction/speed etc, meanwhile not noticing that he was heading straight for me - had to shout out to get him to stop, did he apologise? - nope! It definitely helps if more novice surfers know where to be, but there are no excuses for dangerous behaviour.
Great video! But you should also make it clear that snaking isnt just paddling onto the inside around the other surfer at the last second. It should also be pointed out that if someone is paddling into a wave from further out a surfer further in can't just catch it deeper on the inside and have right of way.
The golden rule is that the surfer closest to the breaking part of the wave whom is up first and riding has the right of way, if it's ever in question about shoulder hopping, snaking by paddling inside the surfer dropping in, or paddling directly into and oncoming surfer those latter three are kooks, weasels, or wave hogs and deserve to be treated like scum, have a lovely day the rest of you that are in compliance.
Note to Rule #4- Paddle wide. Avoiding surfers up and riding is the courteous thing to do, choosing the whitewater over sprinting for the shoulder and so on. But, let’s not forget that as with right of way laws across traffic spectrums- the right of way is conceded to the person most restricted in maneuverability. Ultimately, if you are up and riding and you hit someone, you are the one at fault and responsible for damages because you are the one with the the greater speed and turning ability (maneuverability). Don’t make the mistake that the onus is on the paddler to move out of your way if you’re up and riding. It’s not, the onus is firmly with the surfer to avoid those paddling. Paddling wide is simply a courtesy that we all strive for to enhance the greater goal of collision avoidance.
Well done video. Love the on cue demonstrations! Maybe some local experts should watch this for a refresher hehe. I'm not saying don't say sorry, but saying sorry in a busy lineup will rarely help; just a head's up to anyone learning! So do your very best to not have to say sorry in the first place. Watch this video a few times before you go out for the first time.
i surfed for the first time today. Was amazing and managed to belly ride and knee ride really far on some waves but was on a friends surf board that was too small to try and stand. However I was overwhelmed by the taxing it does on your body and how hard it is to manover when you are not used to it. Luckily it was in the evening and was quiet, but was trying my hardest to be mindful of other people. I’m so glad I found this it’s the perfect video for what I need!
Thanks for all the knowledge, it helps for someone like me just learning to surf as I prepare to turn 60 in a couple of months. Just trying to figure it out without this sort knowledge sharing would be overwhelming. 🙏
Holy heck good stuff dude! How’s it been lately? I’m 27 & just picked up surfing myself, I’m going again this Friday! My surf instructor is a Laguna Local who is 65 years old but can still shred a barrel. That’s cool that even at your age you decided to surf! Best of Luck to you 🤙🏻
Growing up is a little surf town in south OC I surfed and knew a lot of guys who surfed. They are some of the coolest chill guys and girls you’ll ever come across. Unfortunately, there’s a weird tribal culture too for a lot of guys in surfing which I never understand and always thought was pathetic but it exists and if you disrespect these guys, because they own the ocean apparently, you will get in a fight.
at 1:30, i'd add 'for surfer A, would be nice to shout out to the next surfer to let em know to go'. and rule 2:38 is really important to follow if the waves are down the line barrels - it can totally stuff someone's wave up. Edit:typos
im 17 and getting into working. im gonna save up for a board and a car so i can become a surfer myself. im glad to have watched this so i can follow these rules. i dont even have any cringy moments where i broke ettiquete without knowing, so im chillin right now. heck. I never even boogie boarded, im gonna follow my dream though!
Wow... This video is spot on with a lot of content, demonstrations, and examples... In my opinion, probably the top 3 relating to surf etiquette.... Trust me: SoCal (South OC/North SD Counties) loves that Barefoot Surf Travel created this : )
This series of videos are pretty good and I have no idea what the people giving thumbs down are thinking as beginners need to be shown the general rules. Rule #8 especially. You kooks, or beginners, need to hold on to your boards when the whitewater is heading towards them. IF you are unable to hold on to your board, go to a place with smaller waves and learn how to handle your board properly. Pisses me off when on some waist to head high day someone is ditching their board right in front of me. Just go to an empty spot on the beach and practice taking whitewater on the head for awhile. Turning turtle or duck diving, both require pointing your board directly into the whitewater. Practice what is a very basic and important skill to get it down. Trust me, back before leashes people weren't ditching their boards.
lightning yeah, I would never drop in on someone who’d already missed the wave (2:30) it just felt rude, like I was showing off, but I guess that’s okay now?
Excellent video, the footage is accurate and amazing, and your explanation is so well done. i'm a beginner and i started to feel i'm not surfing like people should by the "surf rules", so now after watching this video i know much more and i try much harder not to bother other surfers. thank you!
You did an excellent job with this presentation! You left out the party wave factor however. That is, when it is extremely crowded and not practical to get a wave to yourself, you gotta share the wave with others and just enjoy the company. Be sure to yell out " Party Wave" as you and the five other guys are paddling for it. That's how its done at Malibu when five - six guys/gals paddle for a wave on a crowded summer day.
Thanks @David, this means a lot. We are working on more Tutorial for you guys, meanwhile, don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions about surf technique. 🙏
@@maximpodgore6543 the one I'm referring to is in Sunset Beach right side of Burj al Arab, it could get too crowdy some times. surfingdubai.com/pages/surf-report check the link for waves. Better go outside dxb like Al khan beach in Sharjah or Um al qwain in Rak when there are crowd.
It’s good to have this etiquette for safety . But that’s also why it’s hard for a beginner to catch a good wave . When you only got one surfing beach so the peak area is packed with the more experienced surfers and they all go for the nice wave and you just have to seat there , it’s really annoying
If u apologize and be considerate about it u should be ok as long as u don't do it again. At least that's what it's like where I surf at Salt Creek. Where do u surf?
Sounds easy enough except for the "don't do it again." I guess you mean, intentionally do it again. After all, you are floating, with powerful currents, waves and lots of people.
Who cares just got out there you will learn from experience, just don’t be an asshole and if anyone wants to fight put them down lol. Some surfers are straight assholes for no reason, just go out and have fun man
Many thanks, seems like a lot of work to collect all that videos. For me as an absolute beginner it's great intro. I'm looking forward to see the reality in Madeira :-)
Surf73 yeah at my break they steal literally every wave when I go for a single wave I get yelled at for trying to catch a wave on a short board, I feel ya.
Its not really "with the potential of longest ride" in terms of how long you can stay on the wave, rather than how early or close to the peak you start. And yep, as a SUP surfer I could steal all the waves, but I wanna stick to the rules and wait my turn. And with the right surfers or other SUP surfers that perfectly works out, but I experienced that attitude alot from surfers, to be cussed at and shooed away before they could even see that I in fact very well ride those 2 or even 4 meter waves with a SUP.
was 17 in 1984 was just learning but ok and went to huntington beach pier and just paddled out there into about 20 deep of locals and I was from santa monica so nobody knows me broke about 5 of these rules cause I didnt know better got some comments and looks but nothing bad until I was done went to my car and all 4 tires were slashed.have not been back to huntington since 30 plus years
From experience, usually the ethics version of the locals is simple : « I got priority on you no matter what, have a nice time in the watter »😄. No need to observe very long 😅. Mexico, Nicaragua, Portugal, Maldives
I was surfing 2 days ago when a guy consistently stayed in my path. When I politely asked him to move, he did, but started snaking me. Reverse etiquette.
Started learning surfing for the first time, really tried to be polite and asked locals where they want me to wait to not get in the way etc. still end up getting shouted at all the time. Seems a very guarded thing rather than the relaxed open atmosphere I expected from ‘chilled surfers’
#4 is debatable because sometimes like you don’t get a choice, ik everyone has done it and they know it wasn’t the right call... but it’s better than getting clapped when a wave comes out of nowhere
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Surfings getting too popular. I used to have sunrises to myself a few years ago but now even on shitty days there's always a pack assembled at sunrise. Give it 5 years and you're sunrise sesh spot will be packed.
I used to surf at sunrise before school when I was in high school and one day a shark hit my board, it wasn't big enough to hurt me or anything but that little bastard scared the shit out of me. I couldn't stay alone in the water for like half a year 😂😂😂😂 (sorry for my bad English writing I'm from Costa Rica, pura vida 🤙)
@@nelsonwesterhout2588 not a horrible thing! It just means more people are interested in be in the world and trying news hobbies
DoozieCone Not saying it’s bad that more people are enjoying the sport. I’m just saying the fun is not really sustainable because surf spots are so limited. Maybe it the future wave pools could help with this congestion.
Nelson Westerhout yep sadly "popular" spots are crowed early now. I'm grateful, where I surf, except during summer, I'm alone the morning. Surf is beautiful, let's enjoy what we have !
when you don’t even surf but still want to learn the etiquette
m'lady
When you've been surfing for 8 years but want to make sure you aren't pissing people off by accident
@@alxmnslv You mugwump you're talking of "serfs" instead of surfing
@@user-xv4he4mt4x I clicked "serfing" etiquette cause I couldn't find the how to be her majesty's "bodyguard" etiquette.. geez what messed up humour
Manners go a long way, son.
When you said "it could be pretty traumatizing" i felt that
Tyson Hart i dont get it
I got crashed by a kid
yep me too dude
As a 14 year old intermediate surfer,
Same
@Eihoofd2 I was 16 and only a few months into surfing when I got utterly fucked on by a wave that wasn’t huge but definitely bigger than what I could control.
Every surfer should watch this especially snakes
Honestly it isn’t that hard to pick up assholes will be assholes
Snake surfers know the rules. That's why they are called snakes
snakes are equivalent
to youtube or redit trolls and flamers... they know the rules but dont give a fuck
Snakes? It's called pecking order
@@talgilboa285 there are no rules. You know if you're a kook and you get what ever are left over. You don't have right away ever if your a kook
I learned to surf many years ago in Australia, and it wasn't crowded then (one of the scenes looks like my old spot) and you learned the rules pretty quickly. There was a world champ named Nat Young who they called "The Animal". He was big and aggressive, would assault & bully other surfers and everyone was afraid of him. That went on for a couple of years until one day he punched out a kid in the waves. The kid's dad was on shore and saw it and waited till Nat came in and beat the shit out of him, required hours of reconstructive surgery.
Word got around and everybody was glad. After that, Nat "got religion" and started giving talks about "surf rage" and being nice in the water. Last I heard he was in Colorado or someplace doing the ski thing. You can probably look him up online.
Sometimes losing a fight is all someone needs to humble them
thats just not how the story goes ahahah
Good. Who is he to slap some kid over a breaker ? These surf bullies need to grow up. For that matter, some of these bullies could end up in prison where they become the bullied.
this is hilarious well written
Glad a bloke hit his reset button. It's not too bad I find these days on the Sunny Coast but there is still a lot of tribalism. The "locals only" mind set is diminishing but still strong unfortunately on the Gold Coast, Central Coast etc.
You can watch surfing endlessly. That's very beautiful.
Honestly, this is so important. I'm a beginner and I was afraid of going out and trying to catch waves because I didn't want to snake from the locals. I'm happy I know a bit more about the etiquette of surfing now. Thank you.
Happy to help! Thanks for the love 🙏
just keep in mind the take off points depending on the board and your should be good
Everyone in LA needs to watch this
Good luck with that brother, best wishes, much love and don't be a shoulder rat hopping after the oncoming surfers cheese.
@@gsmarin1 what does a shoulder rate? And also what is peel ans break mean when surfing?
I AGREE......Completley 😄
The only etiquette I knew before this video was that Point Break scene "Stay off my wave!" Which intimidated me a little.
Superb video. Really clear videos of each situation; that must have taken a lot of work to arrange and film. Good narration too 👍🏻
Thank you 🙏, we are glad to hear it.
"Today we're going to spend the entire session surfing like kooks." At least it was a small day.
i was thinking the same thing the amount of time to replicate each situation !
When you've been learning to surf by yourself for a whole year, watch this video and then cringe at how many of these rules you've broken at some point! :S
true!
If you're learning in what might be called a tourist location the etiquette is pretty much unknown by everyone, which makes it hell dangerous. You can tell when you and others aren't following the etiquette, you feel like you're having near misses all the time that could result in injury or even worse, damage to your board.
That's soo funny
Shame Shame Shame Read the manual first!
Crackz!
Surfing was invented for the soul purpose of fun and relaxation. Now everyone takes it so seriously, and they’re missing the point. Ya I’ve dropped in on a few people, but I usually apologize if I know I got in the way, and 9/10 they are super cool about it cause they know it’s all about having a good time. You gotta have the zen attitude, or you’re not a surfer.
@@Angel-vv9xo sometimes its unintentional 🤷♂️
Accidents happen but some people seem to never look over their shoulder to see if they're dropping in on someone. No one expects perfection but a quick glance is important.
"You gotta have the zen attitude, or you’re not a surfer" I surfed OC for years and that's not true in my exp. I was not a good surfer but I did well enough to love it despite being constantly snaked.
and fun and relaxation is not facilitated by having a bunch of kooks around blowing waves and dropping in on people, getting in the way and generally being a danger to themselves and others.
Everyone forgets: there’s always another wave. I’ve been the losing side in so many of these exact situations. You just sorta throw your hands up and put some distance between you and the other fella and try to preserve the zen that the ocean offers.
Thank you so much! Great video! I’m a noob so i must have broken this etiquette a number of times without even realising 😬
I wish this video was around when I first started. I leaned how to surf on RUclips but I didn't know anything about etiquette. I learned most from just watching and observing in the water, but a few times I definitely did some bad things by accident. Luckily most of the people could tell by my sun damaged and duct taped nose that I was just starting and slowly educated me, but knowing this from the get go would have definitely saved me some embarrassing moments. Subscribed!
them 2 guys arguing on surfboards was hilarious lol
My friends and I can’t turn so we can all get the wave
haha
best way to do it
i am just imagining this with the beach boys playing in the background
Update: the rest of them improved, I can still barely surf
been surfing for 30 years...etiquette in So.Cal has changed....people just drop in on each other regularly and whoever is "better" or has more friends in the line-up claims it and stays on the wave. Especially at premiere breaks like Trestles and HB pier.
Just shout "surfs up" regardless of the situation and you'll be fine
Lol
LOL
and "COWABUNGA"
I have actually never heard someone shout that but I am sure it works
FACT!!!
5:59 I swear I thought she was gonna day “a surfer is usually considered local when he has a long hairdo”
Longest do holds priority. 💁🏽♀️
😂
A couple others: don’t foil at popular surf spots. If you’re riding a SUP, catch a few and keep moving down the beach; you can cover more ground so don’t aggravate a single set of surfers by sticking in one area. If you have a longer board and are surfing around a lot of short boarders, use your crafts superior wave catching ability for good, not evil. Don’t be a wave hog.
Super comprehensive, good for all beginners to know, especially in places where surf tourism is picking up. Good job! Will def be sharing this.
Only thing I might add is really adhere to who's next, even if you're in a better position. There's a lot of grey areas; the ocean is infinitely variable, and there's subtle levels of entitlement (some valid and some less so). But especially when it's crowded, you've got to let people have their chance. 45 years surfing FWIW.
I hear you.
But as you said, there’s so much variability.
A new guy paddling out into the line up, or, groan-several.
The wave shifts such that the guy in the priority spot is now too late. Does the next go? Potentially snowballing? Personally, I think if he’s paddling for it, and has priority, it’s his wave to blow.
And if he can’t make it, back of the line.
But I agree, we should all take stock of who has had what. Which requires awareness in the line up.
Which really isn’t that hard.
But then their are the guys that feign oblivion. They’re good surfers, so they’re not novices, but they manage to flout all the etiquette and then pretend they have no idea what’s going on when you call them on it.
I do not buy that anyone surfing in SoCal who is above average doesn’t know the etiquette. There might be a small handful. But surfing like that in SoCal and people will call you on it at least once/session. But there is in no way as many obliviots as I’ve seen.
So it’s on us to call them out.
Personally I think it’s best if we don’t wait til it happens to us if we call it out.
I’ve surfer local spots, and everyone knows the pecking order and the rules. If you’re new, and try and take advantage, the entire line up will swarm them.
Great vid and spot. I’d add: don’t just bring a group of 5 people and jump immediately into the lineup, clogging it and the break zone. And if you’re riding a longboard or SUP don’t abuse your board’s early wave catching ability and be a wave hog.
I surf away from other surfers. Yesterday and me and two female surfers, with a good 26 yards between us, respecting each others space, turned and saw a group of 8 people just paddle quickly - from where they were surfing previously - to directly in front of us, between the line up and the shore. Then they just threw water at each other and didn't attempt to catch any waves. Just blocked us from catching. Thing is the waves were better where they were surfing in the first place...
Locals apparently...
when you say sorry as a beginner for dropping in on someone and them still having a massive go at you
foreal im out
people are different. You might drop in on a a-hole or a cool guy.
I done that on accident
that means you should go surf somewhere else, not around other people.
I’ve had this happen to me and the guy was an abolsute dick even after I apologised twice
A nice really comprehensive explanation of surf etiquette! Excellent video. I'll add one more thing: if you're a learner in the white water, watch the wave before you take off to ensure there isn't someone already riding it. If there is, then going for that wave too can cause a collision.
I've had beginners try to catch the inside shore break on a wave I've ridden from out the back, and actually aim for me, completely clueless as to what's happening. So dangerous! Being aware of other surfers is essential for everyone's safety. That fin on my board is big and sharp, I don't want it to connect with anyone's head!
I love these videos, so professional! As a beginner I've already learned so much. Thank you for making these!!!
Thank you for sharing this. Surf etiquette is so important. This is needed for summer surf camps. I see so many of these in California and it is a free for all in the water and is so dangerous. I try to bring this up with the surf camp companies and this is a great video for counselors to teach at surf camps and lessons. Thank you again.
+ PRO TIP= DON'T HOG WAVES If u longboard and sit deepest, with easiest option to catch incoming waves, don't hog all them. Let some nice waves go by, so the shortboarders waiting on the inside can also enjoy good rides. Everyone sees this, cus you are in everyone's line of sight as they all look to horizon. It creates good vibes. When everyone gets waves, it makes the lineup a lot more fun.
Excellent video. I agree you must stay alert because even when you think it’s clear and you can catch the wave, you can be surprised if you hyper focus on a wave. It’s happened to me and I felt badly and wondered how did I not see the surfer with priority?
Excellent tips! For tip #6, communication can be challenging between a Deaf surfer and a Hearing surfer, although it’s possible for them to communicate with gestures and hand signals. There are several ways in nonverbal communication. I’m aware that Hearing people use their voice to let others know. However, this situation does not apply to Deaf people, so we must use our eyes to look around us and read the surfers’ body language for extra safety and minimizing the risks of misunderstanding.
These videos are so helpful! The video is great and the commentary very concise and clear. I even like the unobtrusive and relaxing music. This is top quality stuff and I'm learning so much. Thank you!
I'm not a surfer and will probably never surf but I've always been curious about certain rules on how surfers know who gets the next wave. This was interesting to watch!
I didn't formally know any of this when I surfed in my teens. But for the most part if you communicate who's taking which wave you're good. Usually people WILL holler at you if it looks like you're about to drop into their wave or doing something wrong so just listen. It's also essential to research conditions on multiple spots because there is a very finite capacity to most breaks and don't even get in the water if the water is more surfer than surface. If all else fails yell "PARTY WAVE" and just go for it lol.
What does Party Wave mean dave?
@@chrismccaffrey8256 more than one person surfing a wave
All this rules about waves is a hassle. I'd prefer doing it when the sun rises.
Rule #1 of surf etiquette should be 'don't run others down'. Seen so many occasions where advanced guys nearly take out a weaker surfer by doubling back on a wave, simply choosing to take off when someone else is paddling out near them (This is on beach breaks where there is no definitive breaking point for the wave) or riding a wave for long enough that they're certain to cross paths with someone paddling out. Ultimately if you're more advanced you're going to be a stronger swimmer with more control over the board and a collision has the potential to be fatal. Had an incident just this week with a short-boarder fighting to stay up on a dying wave, changing his direction/speed etc, meanwhile not noticing that he was heading straight for me - had to shout out to get him to stop, did he apologise? - nope! It definitely helps if more novice surfers know where to be, but there are no excuses for dangerous behaviour.
Great video! But you should also make it clear that snaking isnt just paddling onto the inside around the other surfer at the last second. It should also be pointed out that if someone is paddling into a wave from further out a surfer further in can't just catch it deeper on the inside and have right of way.
The golden rule is that the surfer closest to the breaking part of the wave whom is up first and riding has the right of way, if it's ever in question about shoulder hopping, snaking by paddling inside the surfer dropping in, or paddling directly into and oncoming surfer those latter three are kooks, weasels, or wave hogs and deserve to be treated like scum, have a lovely day the rest of you that are in compliance.
Note to Rule #4- Paddle wide. Avoiding surfers up and riding is the courteous thing to do, choosing the whitewater over sprinting for the shoulder and so on.
But, let’s not forget that as with right of way laws across traffic spectrums- the right of way is conceded to the person most restricted in maneuverability.
Ultimately, if you are up and riding and you hit someone, you are the one at fault and responsible for damages because you are the one with the the greater speed and turning ability (maneuverability).
Don’t make the mistake that the onus is on the paddler to move out of your way if you’re up and riding. It’s not, the onus is firmly with the surfer to avoid those paddling. Paddling wide is simply a courtesy that we all strive for to enhance the greater goal of collision avoidance.
Well done video. Love the on cue demonstrations! Maybe some local experts should watch this for a refresher hehe. I'm not saying don't say sorry, but saying sorry in a busy lineup will rarely help; just a head's up to anyone learning! So do your very best to not have to say sorry in the first place. Watch this video a few times before you go out for the first time.
SUCH a good video about etiquette. Well shot and well explained!
i surfed for the first time today. Was amazing and managed to belly ride and knee ride really far on some waves but was on a friends surf board that was too small to try and stand. However I was overwhelmed by the taxing it does on your body and how hard it is to manover when you are not used to it. Luckily it was in the evening and was quiet, but was trying my hardest to be mindful of other people. I’m so glad I found this it’s the perfect video for what I need!
Thanks for all the knowledge, it helps for someone like me just learning to surf as I prepare to turn 60 in a couple of months. Just trying to figure it out without this sort knowledge sharing would be overwhelming. 🙏
Holy heck good stuff dude! How’s it been lately? I’m 27 & just picked up surfing myself, I’m going again this Friday! My surf instructor is a Laguna Local who is 65 years old but can still shred a barrel. That’s cool that even at your age you decided to surf! Best of Luck to you 🤙🏻
Was searching for the #3 example. Glad I found this video!
Thanks
Growing up is a little surf town in south OC I surfed and knew a lot of guys who surfed. They are some of the coolest chill guys and girls you’ll ever come across.
Unfortunately, there’s a weird tribal culture too for a lot of guys in surfing which I never understand and always thought was pathetic but it exists and if you disrespect these guys, because they own the ocean apparently, you will get in a fight.
If only people followed these guidelines! Great simple breakdown everyone should see this before their first paddle out.
at 1:30, i'd add 'for surfer A, would be nice to shout out to the next surfer to let em know to go'. and rule 2:38 is really important to follow if the waves are down the line barrels - it can totally stuff someone's wave up. Edit:typos
Dumpy Thompson EPIC 🙏🏻👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
im 17 and getting into working. im gonna save up for a board and a car so i can become a surfer myself. im glad to have watched this so i can follow these rules. i dont even have any cringy moments where i broke ettiquete without knowing, so im chillin right now. heck. I never even boogie boarded, im gonna follow my dream though!
Wow... This video is spot on with a lot of content, demonstrations, and examples... In my opinion, probably the top 3 relating to surf etiquette.... Trust me: SoCal (South OC/North SD Counties) loves that Barefoot Surf Travel created this : )
Thank you 🙏, we are glad to hear it.
This series of videos are pretty good and I have no idea what the people giving thumbs down are thinking as beginners need to be shown the general rules. Rule #8 especially. You kooks, or beginners, need to hold on to your boards when the whitewater is heading towards them. IF you are unable to hold on to your board, go to a place with smaller waves and learn how to handle your board properly. Pisses me off when on some waist to head high day someone is ditching their board right in front of me. Just go to an empty spot on the beach and practice taking whitewater on the head for awhile. Turning turtle or duck diving, both require pointing your board directly into the whitewater. Practice what is a very basic and important skill to get it down. Trust me, back before leashes people weren't ditching their boards.
Just started surfing and this has helped a lot .. cheers 🤟🏻
How’s it going ?
I’m SO EXCITED I have my 1st surf class tmrw!! I’m kinda stressing that’s why I’m binge watching ur Chanel lmao. I live in Malibu California
did you die?
Can we have this on every tv channel, by the hour, on the Gold Coast coz tourists have no fkn clue
yeah feel like puttin signs up sayin DONT DROP IN
Douche
When you've been surfing all your life but still watch this
I bodyboard and im just watching to feel sad that im not surfing that pure glassiness
and still learn something, oops
Even tho u been surfing all ur life, did u know these rules?
Just curious
lightning yeah, I would never drop in on someone who’d already missed the wave (2:30) it just felt rude, like I was showing off, but I guess that’s okay now?
I already surf and am intermediated pro don’t know why I watching this but it’s it a really good vid with lots of good esxplsnations
Very nice video, thank you.
Excellent video, the footage is accurate and amazing, and your explanation is so well done. i'm a beginner and i started to feel i'm not surfing like people should by the "surf rules", so now after watching this video i know much more and i try much harder not to bother other surfers. thank you!
Thanks for the comment! Appreciate the love. Happy surfing 🤙
You did an excellent job with this presentation! You left out the party wave factor however. That is, when it is extremely crowded and not practical to get a wave to yourself, you gotta share the wave with others and just enjoy the company. Be sure to yell out " Party Wave" as you and the five other guys are paddling for it. That's how its done at Malibu when five - six guys/gals paddle for a wave on a crowded summer day.
I rode Ocean Beach, SF for ten years. Closest to the peak is the only surf rule I ever heard of. Just. b. Cool😎
I love your content! Keep it up.
Thanks @David, this means a lot. We are working on more Tutorial for you guys, meanwhile, don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions about surf technique. 🙏
thank you, i made some mistakes today in my first day bodybording.. nice video!
I wish I had seen this 15 years ago. I broke a lot of those. I hope many people are helped by this fine video.
Thankyou! This was very helpful 😉
Those waves were really beautiful. Where was this filmed?
I really want to find out
This Tutorial was filmed in Playa Maderas, Nicaragua. Awesome spot for beginners and intermediates.
Etiquette rule number 3. Never ask “where was that filmed.” Number 4, never tell!
When you and your buddy has the whole beach. NUT
Surfers in Dubai Sunset Beach should watch this. Thank you for this!
Jeshel Echin I’ve lived in Dubai, where do they have waves? I live in Malibu now so I would love to know!
@@maximpodgore6543 the one I'm referring to is in Sunset Beach right side of Burj al Arab, it could get too crowdy some times.
surfingdubai.com/pages/surf-report
check the link for waves. Better go outside dxb like Al khan beach in Sharjah or Um al qwain in Rak when there are crowd.
Nice video! If only everyone kept to these simple rules :/
Esencial para todos los principiantes.
Amazing video 👏👏👏 I could tell it wasn’t easy to make
Best surfing video, I've ever seen ;)
Thank you 🙏, we are glad to hear it.
Wow this some high quality video production!
That Moment when you live no where near an ocean and have never surfed once in your life but you want to learn anyway
This was really well explained, and you had perfect footage to go with everything 👌
It’s good to have this etiquette for safety . But that’s also why it’s hard for a beginner to catch a good wave . When you only got one surfing beach so the peak area is packed with the more experienced surfers and they all go for the nice wave and you just have to seat there , it’s really annoying
Learn to balance with your breath before on a board. Surf closest to the shore first, and make the most of that, before you explore some more
Great video! Thank you. Also branding is on point!
I’m scared I will do something wrong now xD I don’t want to be rude ;~;
If u apologize and be considerate about it u should be ok as long as u don't do it again. At least that's what it's like where I surf at Salt Creek. Where do u surf?
Mateo Membrila fistral ^^
Sounds easy enough except for the "don't do it again." I guess you mean, intentionally do it again. After all, you are floating, with powerful currents, waves and lots of people.
Who cares just got out there you will learn from experience, just don’t be an asshole and if anyone wants to fight put them down lol. Some surfers are straight assholes for no reason, just go out and have fun man
Dead poolmonkey thanks!!
Many thanks, seems like a lot of work to collect all that videos. For me as an absolute beginner it's great intro. I'm looking forward to see the reality in Madeira :-)
Great filming, great info...your vid inspires me to surf.
If you live at or near a beach, do it!! You'll thank me later!!
this is a very helpful video. thank you for posting.
very helpful, thanks!
Happy we could help! 🙌🏽
Very clear thanks sm
I went to 3 surfing schools and none teached me about this. Very disappointing. Thank you for this video!
Wot
Great video, thanks for sharing guys
"The surfer with the longest potential ride has the priority for the wave" ? Sup riders and long boarders can get f#$*ed then.
Surf73 yeah at my break they steal literally every wave when I go for a single wave I get yelled at for trying to catch a wave on a short board, I feel ya.
Its not really "with the potential of longest ride" in terms of how long you can stay on the wave, rather than how early or close to the peak you start. And yep, as a SUP surfer I could steal all the waves, but I wanna stick to the rules and wait my turn. And with the right surfers or other SUP surfers that perfectly works out, but I experienced that attitude alot from surfers, to be cussed at and shooed away before they could even see that I in fact very well ride those 2 or even 4 meter waves with a SUP.
this is so helpful thank you!!
was 17 in 1984 was just learning but ok and went to huntington beach pier and just paddled out there into about 20 deep of locals and I was from santa monica so nobody knows me broke about 5 of these rules cause I didnt know better got some comments and looks but nothing bad until I was done went to my car and all 4 tires were slashed.have not been back to huntington since 30 plus years
JOHN RMIREZ is 17 too late so start? I kinda regret not picking it up when I was younger.
nikko baron nope
@@bigdawg1586 never too late. I'm 34 and just started last year and love it every time I get the chance to go out.
Thank's for the video! It's very usefull
Glad it was helpful!
From experience, usually the ethics version of the locals is simple : « I got priority on you no matter what, have a nice time in the watter »😄. No need to observe very long 😅.
Mexico, Nicaragua, Portugal, Maldives
This video needs to be shown to the majority of tools who surf Dee Why point. Snake city and not waiting their turn is are most common infringements.
All your videos are excellent thanks. Where is this awesome beach?
Thank you. Playa Maderas, Nicaragua.
I don't surf but this was really cool. Always wondered how this stuff worked!!
Hey David- thanks for the love. ✌️
I’ve been surfing for almost 5 years now and I’m still watching this lmao
Sometimes it takes a while for it all to click. Keep at it.
I was surfing 2 days ago when a guy consistently stayed in my path. When I politely asked him to move, he did, but started snaking me. Reverse etiquette.
such a great video! Thank you!
Started learning surfing for the first time, really tried to be polite and asked locals where they want me to wait to not get in the way etc. still end up getting shouted at all the time. Seems a very guarded thing rather than the relaxed open atmosphere I expected from ‘chilled surfers’
and I still live in a landlocked country and don't get to the ocean often xD but ey nice vid c:
#4 is debatable because sometimes like you don’t get a choice, ik everyone has done it and they know it wasn’t the right call... but it’s better than getting clapped when a wave comes out of nowhere
Awesome video. Thanks.
Where was this filmed? Gotta go here at some point!
in reality this never happens lol, too many snakes