On the topic of bazi, I’ve been to many fortune tellers who claim to read bazi & it is very refreshing to hear from Sean that ultimately, it’s you (and your mindset/attitude) who decides your own fate - and not by wearing certain colours, avoiding certain elements, avoiding some zodiac signs etc.
but your attitude and mindset is largely dictated by your prenatal tendencies. if your chart has alot of water as example, you're prone to being emotional and overthinking. all of us are born with past life tendencies or skandhas. This "decide you own fate" thing is just some inspirationally sounding words these new age astrologers use to make people with poor bazi chart feel less miserable and at same time make you feel good and "like got hope". if you have a chart with no spouse potential, then you won't have it. unless you're supremely cultivated like Chin Kung or Yuan liao fan to alter their lives, most people are just following their fixed destiny.
@@of8ightandse7en16I don’t disagree with you on the first part on our natural tendencies, but if you can quote 了凡四訓，I would presume you know there is hope for someone to play their cards right and encourage them to, well, like you said - cultivate themselves, instead of believing that they can't escape their fate. Or worse, believe in lucky charms or Feng Shui items thinking it's some shortcut to life. But thanks for your comment! It’s the kind of discussion I always encourage people to have. 😊
I am in my 30s now, and I started to believe my life path is set in stone. I just have to walk it and understand why. I am probably with the a massive negative Yun, like Sean said its written in there. No matter how much I tried to change it, fate dictated otherwise. One example is that my friend who wanted to switch fields recommended a course in IT provided by a company that will eventually help us find a job in selected govt agencies. I was already in IT/engineering so I should have an advantage. We applied together and got into the same class. However, he was hired swiftly after graduating, and one year later, I am still unemployed. We realized that the company only hires people fresh in this field. What can I possibly do better to change this? What Yun is this?
Getting your fortune told is like consulting with an analyst on cause-and-effect of our potential actions, what challenges lie ahead and how we might deal with it, the potential repercussions etc. It is still up to our interpretation and how we choose to deal with our actions and challenges faced. Indeed like Sean mentioned, 运 is actually closer in meaning to 'fortune' instead of the stochastic random 'luck', where one has to actively and consciously take action in order to seek it. Opportunities will let slip if we choose not to seize it afterall.
Hi OGS, thank you for covering this topic 😌 as a tarot reader that grew up in the arms of goddess of mercy, I enjoyed watching this video and appreciate the effort it took to make this video easy to digest (as mentioned at the end). I think ya’ll covered the journey of what brought them to spirituality very well and I’m happy ya’ll chanced upon them ☺️ always look forward to more of ya’lls videos 🫶🏽
You decide your destiny, don't let other tell you what you should be, or what you will be. Don't dwell in fortune-telling cuz you will be affected subconsciously by the words they said. No one will be able to help you if you doubt in yourself. Do more good merit to change your destiny.
Indeed, it is more like an advice or suggestion to what may lie ahead, so that we can better prepare ourselves on the next course of action. Decision is still determined by us.
this was a lot better done than the one with babaji, it was good to see wendy approach the topic with a more open mind trying to learn as opposed to challenging the interviewees, even if it doesnt necessarily align with her own beliefs.
I'm an Intuitive card reader myself. I do coach my client during reading as a guide on how to navigate the thoughts and mindset from the results of the reading. The cards drawn for the client is according to the energy of the client at the point of reading. What the energy transmits to the cards is just how energy works. We can't see energy, but energy has a movement. It creates an effect. Energy card reading is a supplement to affirm sometimes the subconscious mind of a person, too. As long as the client is keen to know, the cards will always show the message meant for the client.
I myself read tarot cards for clients. I totally agree with both Sean and Nara. We are just messengers to provide you guidance on your current journey. We cannot dictate how life will go for you or cast magical spells. You only decide what you want to receive and implement through our readings and live your life. Personally, I believe I’m acting as a mirror for my clients to see where they’re at and what can they expect should they continue on the path with their inner energetic space.
that sequence from 14:45 is a chef's kiss, accompanied with the Oppenheimer type of music wow... also I wonder if there's more that we can see or hear from Wendy or Pei Fang? How did you guys approach such a complex topic and unpack it into this 18min film!!
fortune telling has always been difficult to understand for me: 1. how do we know if the telling is truly accurate or if it is just the barnum’s effect at play with our human psyche? 2. how often has fortune telling predicted things wrongly vs correctly? why do we not have access to this information? 3. if a fortune telling goes right, the teller is praised; if a fortune telling goes wrong, it is because life has so many unpredictable aspects so that is to be expected (or insert any other seemingly-valid reasons)… how can someone make sense of this strange win-win outcome that benefit fortune tellers? (and thereby makes it impossible for others to question this field?) 4. how can one differentiate a genuine teller vs a fake? (both can simply say to you “you will experience ABC in year XXXX” ) apologize in advance for my ignorance, for i am genuinely curious (and unsatisfied with my current understanding)
Nah, it's not ignorant. They're good questions. I feel being able to think critically within an esoteric field is important, and exactly what the industry needs now. =)
A good fortune teller encourages possibilities in your life, while a bad one scares you into thinking there's no light in the future. It's hard to tell if a fortune teller is genuine or fake.
Basically those legit ones like tarot reading can somewhat give you a light into your destiny of choice whether it is good or bad. But it’s up to you whether you take that path or not. There are challenges as well definitely not like winning a lottery.
What an interesting topic and loved the conversation between Wendy and Sean! I’ve been a client of Master Sean and he has always been a pillar of sound insight and highly sharp advice - what a great feature and modern take ! Great job OGS
Though our life is predetermined. But it's can be changed according to oneself actions. Be good or bad. There's a book called 了凡四训 where the author shared how his about his life which he felt his life was kinda predetermined till he realised that life itself is constant changing and impermanent. The pros of constant changing mean that whatever we do in this life, be it good or bad will affect our current and future lives. In short, good bazi comes good action, speech and mind from the past. So as bad bazi. But if we do more good deeds starting right now, we have flip ourselves up towards good life now and future
Uplifting to hear the recognition of this fine book. Apart from the diligent ways of changing our attitudes and actions, there are still many other ways in which we can do to change destiny. Do check out True Buddha School. One of which is reciting the Earth Deity's mantra.
no right or wrong as far as one interpretation goes in terms of predicting or coaching. The first law in this universe is the force of love, it fuels your desire, the inner energy, not forgetting that love is giving and unconditioned when that is truly the basic foundation of one given life, putting action into cultivating love of oneself "self care" has to go inwards to achieve better awareness and mindfulness knowing what you feel and what you think, its all about personal navigation in life. At the end of the day the saying goes " mine is mine, yours is yours. " what is given is yours , what to let go isn't mine. Quick hack and close your eyes, feel what you love and how that feeling is when u practice more often than not. It's easy to fill your life with love and keep it close to your heart and let it manifest naturally and soon enough your cup is filled with love that is overflowing to which you give and to further receive more from the universe and those people around you and the community that we live in. namaste to all.
Actually Wendy's bazi has a lot of water (Indirect Resource, which represents unconventional learning and spirituality) which is also negative. She shouldn't really go into superstitious stuff. Very easy to meet and trust the wrong people.
Toto ....ask a parrot 🦜....Indian believe parrot knows about numbers....for me,... I believe my gifted son was sent by the Lord Jesus Christ to my family .Amen
Personally I feel that the consultations are to seek guidance and we still have to act on it ourselves. It is impossible for one to provide a definite answer for every individual. Scam or not, depends on how invested you are. I-Ching is a good example.
If you believe in what the fortune teller says, it might come true. Positive thoughts attract good energy, while negative ones bring bad vibes. If the fortune teller says you'll be rich after 40, it could happen if you're lazy before 40 but work hard after. 😂
thank you for the video! its something i never expected singaporean platforms to go over and i find it very intriguing, where can i learn to read bazi?
@@worldtreeboy8712 Always use Solar Time. Using the time on the clock is wrong and it's not about going with what you feel is your 'fated time' as per what I've heard. The clocks we use these days and the concept of GMT didn't exist back in those days when BaZi was developed. People measured time by looking at the position of the Sun. Hope this helps!
Not at all for unnatural death. While destiny is depicted as a pre-written book, there are still pages for us to write. Hence, brings forth chances to change one's life.
"Exposing" is the wrong word to use -- unless you are refering to Fortune Telling as a Scam or something illegal. Fortune telling dates back to as long ago as 4000 bce. Btw, Wendy is really the wrong host to host such topics.
If you are destined to win Toto, do you still need to predict? Winning Toto isn't just a stroke of luck as most may perceive, it is also based on fate. A person that's born destined with a small bowl will never be able to carry a huge fortune.
@@Enchante... Believing everything is 'destined' makes people lazy and unproductive. They may think, 'What if I'm born rich?' So, your statement about the 'bowl analogy' is misleading. Many people born in poor environments or countries become successful doctors, lawyers, etc., through will and hard work. I can name countries where discipline, hardworking people, and good governance propelled them to the top, while their neighbors lagged behind due to mindset.
@@gamershideout89-ke2vn As the video described, it's definitely true that diligence does bring about change in one's life however, explain those that worked hard throughout their life and didn't bring about any changes. To fully understand this concept, you really need a profound spectrum of perspective and knowledge. Not just about Bazi, but also karmic hindrances. In other words, hard work is placed first nonetheless but, ever thought of what factors are hindering potential success?
If you are destined to win Toto, do you still need to predict? Winning Toto isn't just a stroke of luck as most may perceive, it is also based on fate. A person that's born destined with a small bowl will never be able to carry a huge fortune.
@@Enchante... then do the toto tickets just descend from heaven and lay upon the chosen ones? The destined still need to find the right numbers from the real masters
You can consider it a sort of 'cope'. Humans are inherently curious, and it'd trouble them (us) when we can't put an explanation to things that happen, and also the uncertainty of the future. Hence, we come up with our own interpretations. Or pin our hopes and aspirations onto idols/deities/(insert religious figure). Now that there is some "certainty", we can derive some comfort from it.
On the topic of bazi, I’ve been to many fortune tellers who claim to read bazi & it is very refreshing to hear from Sean that ultimately, it’s you (and your mindset/attitude) who decides your own fate - and not by wearing certain colours, avoiding certain elements, avoiding some zodiac signs etc.
Thank you! It's the message I've been trying to drive across my entire career. =)
but your attitude and mindset is largely dictated by your prenatal tendencies. if your chart has alot of water as example, you're prone to being emotional and overthinking.
all of us are born with past life tendencies or skandhas.
This "decide you own fate" thing is just some inspirationally sounding words these new age astrologers use to make people with poor bazi chart feel less miserable and at same time make you feel good and "like got hope".
if you have a chart with no spouse potential, then you won't have it.
unless you're supremely cultivated like Chin Kung or Yuan liao fan to alter their lives, most people are just following their fixed destiny.
@@of8ightandse7en16I don’t disagree with you on the first part on our natural tendencies, but if you can quote 了凡四訓，I would presume you know there is hope for someone to play their cards right and encourage them to, well, like you said - cultivate themselves, instead of believing that they can't escape their fate. Or worse, believe in lucky charms or Feng Shui items thinking it's some shortcut to life.
But thanks for your comment! It’s the kind of discussion I always encourage people to have. 😊
I am in my 30s now, and I started to believe my life path is set in stone. I just have to walk it and understand why. I am probably with the a massive negative Yun, like Sean said its written in there. No matter how much I tried to change it, fate dictated otherwise.
One example is that my friend who wanted to switch fields recommended a course in IT provided by a company that will eventually help us find a job in selected govt agencies. I was already in IT/engineering so I should have an advantage. We applied together and got into the same class. However, he was hired swiftly after graduating, and one year later, I am still unemployed. We realized that the company only hires people fresh in this field.
What can I possibly do better to change this? What Yun is this?
Getting your fortune told is like consulting with an analyst on cause-and-effect of our potential actions, what challenges lie ahead and how we might deal with it, the potential repercussions etc. It is still up to our interpretation and how we choose to deal with our actions and challenges faced. Indeed like Sean mentioned, 运 is actually closer in meaning to 'fortune' instead of the stochastic random 'luck', where one has to actively and consciously take action in order to seek it. Opportunities will let slip if we choose not to seize it afterall.
I love how you guys approach storytelling with open minds and maturity. Hoping your channel and budgets grow exponentially 🎉
your editor is top notch!
Hi OGS, thank you for covering this topic 😌 as a tarot reader that grew up in the arms of goddess of mercy, I enjoyed watching this video and appreciate the effort it took to make this video easy to digest (as mentioned at the end). I think ya’ll covered the journey of what brought them to spirituality very well and I’m happy ya’ll chanced upon them ☺️ always look forward to more of ya’lls videos 🫶🏽
❤
What a brilliant video. The editing was top-notch.
You decide your destiny, don't let other tell you what you should be, or what you will be.
Don't dwell in fortune-telling cuz you will be affected subconsciously by the words they said.
No one will be able to help you if you doubt in yourself.
Do more good merit to change your destiny.
Yeah, best not to ask anyone your destiny because you create your own destiny.😊
Indeed, it is more like an advice or suggestion to what may lie ahead, so that we can better prepare ourselves on the next course of action. Decision is still determined by us.
thank u for this video... refreshing perspective... it is true, we determine our future through our actions, and they stem from our thoughts...
this was a lot better done than the one with babaji, it was good to see wendy approach the topic with a more open mind trying to learn as opposed to challenging the interviewees, even if it doesnt necessarily align with her own beliefs.
Great editing and storytelling!
I'm an Intuitive card reader myself. I do coach my client during reading as a guide on how to navigate the thoughts and mindset from the results of the reading. The cards drawn for the client is according to the energy of the client at the point of reading. What the energy transmits to the cards is just how energy works. We can't see energy, but energy has a movement. It creates an effect. Energy card reading is a supplement to affirm sometimes the subconscious mind of a person, too. As long as the client is keen to know, the cards will always show the message meant for the client.
I myself read tarot cards for clients. I totally agree with both Sean and Nara. We are just messengers to provide you guidance on your current journey. We cannot dictate how life will go for you or cast magical spells. You only decide what you want to receive and implement through our readings and live your life.
Personally, I believe I’m acting as a mirror for my clients to see where they’re at and what can they expect should they continue on the path with their inner energetic space.
that sequence from 14:45 is a chef's kiss, accompanied with the Oppenheimer type of music wow... also I wonder if there's more that we can see or hear from Wendy or Pei Fang? How did you guys approach such a complex topic and unpack it into this 18min film!!
Love the way this was shot and how the story was told. Kudos to the OGS team. Glad I found the channel. Keep up the good work!
fortune telling has always been difficult to understand for me:
1. how do we know if the telling is truly accurate or if it is just the barnum’s effect at play with our human psyche?
2. how often has fortune telling predicted things wrongly vs correctly? why do we not have access to this information?
3. if a fortune telling goes right, the teller is praised; if a fortune telling goes wrong, it is because life has so many unpredictable aspects so that is to be expected (or insert any other seemingly-valid reasons)… how can someone make sense of this strange win-win outcome that benefit fortune tellers? (and thereby makes it impossible for others to question this field?)
4. how can one differentiate a genuine teller vs a fake? (both can simply say to you “you will experience ABC in year XXXX” )
apologize in advance for my ignorance, for i am genuinely curious (and unsatisfied with my current understanding)
Nah, it's not ignorant. They're good questions. I feel being able to think critically within an esoteric field is important, and exactly what the industry needs now. =)
A good fortune teller encourages possibilities in your life, while a bad one scares you into thinking there's no light in the future. It's hard to tell if a fortune teller is genuine or fake.
Fortune tellers are thieves without maskes
Basically those legit ones like tarot reading can somewhat give you a light into your destiny of choice whether it is good or bad. But it’s up to you whether you take that path or not. There are challenges as well definitely not like winning a lottery.
Really great !! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😊😊
He can't even tell a guy is married or not
❤❤❤ love the way this episode was shot. Also loved listening to everyone's stories and interpretation of fortune telling❤❤
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Now and then I do I Ching divination for important decision making, it has been spot on. Fate is not the cause, it is the effect.
Inspirational story. Thank you for sharing
Well spoke and explained 👏🏻
Love this good job host and crew!!!
im v impressed by the chinese guy but idk what the girl was talking about
Thank you! 🤗
What an interesting topic and loved the conversation between Wendy and Sean! I’ve been a client of Master Sean and he has always been a pillar of sound insight and highly sharp advice - what a great feature and modern take ! Great job OGS
Awwww... Thank you!
Though our life is predetermined. But it's can be changed according to oneself actions. Be good or bad. There's a book called 了凡四训 where the author shared how his about his life which he felt his life was kinda predetermined till he realised that life itself is constant changing and impermanent. The pros of constant changing mean that whatever we do in this life, be it good or bad will affect our current and future lives. In short, good bazi comes good action, speech and mind from the past. So as bad bazi. But if we do more good deeds starting right now, we have flip ourselves up towards good life now and future
YES. More people need to know about that book.
Liao-Fan's Four Lessons (了凡四训)
Book by Yuan Liaofan
@@atlaspath5803 The book is available online for free if anyone's interested!
Uplifting to hear the recognition of this fine book. Apart from the diligent ways of changing our attitudes and actions, there are still many other ways in which we can do to change destiny. Do check out True Buddha School. One of which is reciting the Earth Deity's mantra.
no right or wrong as far as one interpretation goes in terms of predicting or coaching. The first law in this universe is the force of love, it fuels your desire, the inner energy, not forgetting that love is giving and unconditioned when that is truly the basic foundation of one given life, putting action into cultivating love of oneself "self care" has to go inwards to achieve better awareness and mindfulness knowing what you feel and what you think, its all about personal navigation in life. At the end of the day the saying goes " mine is mine, yours is yours. " what is given is yours , what to let go isn't mine. Quick hack and close your eyes, feel what you love and how that feeling is when u practice more often than not. It's easy to fill your life with love and keep it close to your heart and let it manifest naturally and soon enough your cup is filled with love that is overflowing to which you give and to further receive more from the universe and those people around you and the community that we live in. namaste to all.
❤
Thanks for making this interesting video.
Actually Wendy's bazi has a lot of water (Indirect Resource, which represents unconventional learning and spirituality) which is also negative. She shouldn't really go into superstitious stuff. Very easy to meet and trust the wrong people.
How can I work with you guys?😊
Having trauma means in the future you can be a better person and having the ability to helping other people
Quote reverse uno
Ideally!
Can help predict toto for me? 😂
Toto ....ask a parrot 🦜....Indian believe parrot knows about numbers....for me,... I believe my gifted son was sent by the Lord Jesus Christ to my family .Amen
Personally I feel that the consultations are to seek guidance and we still have to act on it ourselves. It is impossible for one to provide a definite answer for every individual. Scam or not, depends on how invested you are.
I-Ching is a good example.
Divination tools are cheat codes. Astrology is the level of difficulty you chose for the game of life 😊
If you believe in what the fortune teller says, it might come true. Positive thoughts attract good energy, while negative ones bring bad vibes. If the fortune teller says you'll be rich after 40, it could happen if you're lazy before 40 but work hard after. 😂
I heard that Bazi should not be openly given out as people may use it against you. If that is really Wendy's... 😅
thank you for the video! its something i never expected singaporean platforms to go over and i find it very intriguing, where can i learn to read bazi?
Sean is using Zi wei isit?
No lah... I was using BaZi (八字)。But I know Zi Wei Dou Shu (紫微斗数) too. =)
@@masterSeanChan hi, do you use real solar time when plotting the chart because some practitioner uses it and some don't.
@@worldtreeboy8712 Always use Solar Time. Using the time on the clock is wrong and it's not about going with what you feel is your 'fated time' as per what I've heard. The clocks we use these days and the concept of GMT didn't exist back in those days when BaZi was developed. People measured time by looking at the position of the Sun. Hope this helps!
LOL - he's married ahhahahaha
And blissfully married too! 🎉 😚
What about some people who commit suicide... is it in their natal chart??
Not at all for unnatural death. While destiny is depicted as a pre-written book, there are still pages for us to write. Hence, brings forth chances to change one's life.
Where can I find Sean. I need a consult
So confusing...Divination,Astrology,Tarot,Bazi,....
I think bazi is a form of astrology and tarot is a form of divination.
Try Human Design :)
"Exposing" is the wrong word to use -- unless you are refering to Fortune Telling as a Scam or something illegal. Fortune telling dates back to as long ago as 4000 bce. Btw, Wendy is really the wrong host to host such topics.
😂 if they could, why aren't they altering their own fàtes
They can't. otherwise they won't be sitting there as they can just predict the lottery.
If you are destined to win Toto, do you still need to predict? Winning Toto isn't just a stroke of luck as most may perceive, it is also based on fate. A person that's born destined with a small bowl will never be able to carry a huge fortune.
@@Enchante... Believing everything is 'destined' makes people lazy and unproductive. They may think, 'What if I'm born rich?' So, your statement about the 'bowl analogy' is misleading. Many people born in poor environments or countries become successful doctors, lawyers, etc., through will and hard work. I can name countries where discipline, hardworking people, and good governance propelled them to the top, while their neighbors lagged behind due to mindset.
@@gamershideout89-ke2vn As the video described, it's definitely true that diligence does bring about change in one's life however, explain those that worked hard throughout their life and didn't bring about any changes. To fully understand this concept, you really need a profound spectrum of perspective and knowledge. Not just about Bazi, but also karmic hindrances. In other words, hard work is placed first nonetheless but, ever thought of what factors are hindering potential success?
@@Enchante... Mindset
Bullshit, they tell you things like you will have a birthday once a year
Just believe yourself，those fortune tellers just want to take your money.🙃
Ask a critical person to do this interview. It’s all nonsense
Hahaha lame can predict future then predict Toto lah haha
If you are destined to win Toto, do you still need to predict? Winning Toto isn't just a stroke of luck as most may perceive, it is also based on fate. A person that's born destined with a small bowl will never be able to carry a huge fortune.
@@Enchante... then do the toto tickets just descend from heaven and lay upon the chosen ones? The destined still need to find the right numbers from the real masters
@@mrpo3496For fortune that derives from betting and luck, it does derive from heaven... Likewise for misfortune and deaths
@@mrpo3496 Indeed. Fortune that derives from luck and betting comes from heaven... Likewise for misfortune and deaths...
Scam. Fullstop.
This kind of delulu ness needs to be studied
You can consider it a sort of 'cope'. Humans are inherently curious, and it'd trouble them (us) when we can't put an explanation to things that happen, and also the uncertainty of the future. Hence, we come up with our own interpretations. Or pin our hopes and aspirations onto idols/deities/(insert religious figure). Now that there is some "certainty", we can derive some comfort from it.
@@teeteetuu94 so in short it’s a delusion
Repent to our saviour! Jesus Christ! You need no reading but faith!
bullshit
This is stupid