I think they should go in partnership with Gateshead FC. Build a 30 000 or so capacity stadium there, use that temporarily as a shared home ground and demolish St james' and start from scratch. They should help turn Gateshead into Division one maybe even Championship team so we have somewhere local to send academy players out to on loan.
If investment into St James park is not included into FFP, the sky is the limit with PIF, mega $$$ and as you said ideas to elevate the East stand and extend the Gallowgate and boomb, i reckon in 10 years time we will have a 70,000 seater/stander and the Cathedral will be the venue in the North! HWTL TOON army
70,000 seater wouldn't go anywhere near man , try getting a ticket as a member, there was 33,000 last summer on top of the full allocation of St's, hospitality, away fans & gate sales on the day (as required of all EPL clubs) 85,000 would easily see our stadium full every home match 😀
Wonder how people would feel about a new stadium 100k seats at the utilitia stadium site, huge site within easy distance of the city centre the train station and the A1?
I think it would be nice if we had a statue of Bob Moncur standing next to Joe Harvey, they were first and only Newcastle United captain and manager to win a European competition in the form of the Fairs Cup.
Now if I wasn’t now stuck in a wheelchair, I would be for certain applying for the Hospitality and Events Manager role, that’s what I used to do most of my working career. Oh what a dream that would be to work for the club you love and support. I live near London but I’d relocate in a blink
Dont let that hold you back. If you have the skills and know how but more importantly the passion and ambition, you should at least apply. You said you would relocate in a beat. You might not get that role but something else within the club may be interested. Dont be afraid to be turned down. That application may lead to something.
Drawback is St James Park is in the city center. There is only so much that can be done. Particularly with all of the underground works. I'd love to sit in the stands one day.
it cost a fortune to build but yeh that's not the point tbh. as much as i love SJP a new 80k stadium something along the lines of that would be amazing.
@@peterryan917 I've just seen a comment mentioning the old Calders leadwork site and old gasworks, it's literally made for a stadium like the Merc Benz. Imagine driving up the road and seeing something like that on the Riverside🤩
It's very simple. Pull it down and move footprint of stadium north to enable total rebuild without obstruction from leazes terrace. Whilst stadium is being built we can play at purpose built temp stadium at Kingston park.
@@GBDT you do realise that er...... no it isn't. There is a large empty bit of land behind the rugby stadium to the north. There is scope for a large development. It has been discussed recently by architects and planners
@@danlawson6652 By a large empty bit of land do you mean the University sports area or the bit above that. The area has problems on rugby match days, it won't be able to come with a football match day. Not to mention the NIMBY's who will be dwarfed by a stadium - even if it is temporary.
It’s as big as it can be, unfortunately the Treaty of Algeron stops us developing a cloaking device so Newcastle can’t have an invisible upper tier on the east stand and back to reality, I think we can stop with the idea that new technology is somehow going to make the stadium bigger.
Picked a great day for the video.. Quality as usual rob.... Work will start when ashworth .and eales gets of there arsew from.the states... Should be there signing and selling.... No topping. Up. The tan.. Work started 4 weeks ago... Muppetts
Living down under for so many years, it seems another world since my last game at St James with me Dad Standing at Gallow gate end i remember the flooded toilets under the stands.... I do want to return one day and take in the game, Im sure i wont need my wellies this time..
If the owners are planning to keep sjp where it and have the foresight for it to be a Premier world leading events venue, then Leazes Terrace will need to be pushed back a little. But, this is already in the pipeline according to some. The. Sjp can can lead the way with a state of the art stadium.
Great and exciting times ahead it seems Rob, the future of the club is in great hands mate. I'm an old bod so probably won't see it happen but I'm excited for the future generations mate, it'll be awesome, to quote our American cousins 👍🖤🤍🖤🤍😊
As a miggy fan from atlanta, and the mentioning of Mercedes Benz stadium, it would also be good to look at the mixed use development of truist park, the new home of the atlanta Braves.
I seen them build the east stand I would love to see them pull it down and replace it with a new one to hold a 65.000 capacity rather than move . I have lots of memories from st James park long may it continue 🤞🤞
Can’t see an equivalent of Spurs Lilly White House next to SJP. Best place for that, and all corporate offices, is as part of a new training site. Will be interesting when they eventually select a site and start getting plans.
There was at least 74000 people trying to become a club member. Let that sink in. Becoming a member to help jump in front of general sale for tickets. Is it possible that an extension to the gallowgate and east stand has become redundant because capacity would still would fall well below demand.
All the new ones look the same, all the old ones are special in their own way, only a child gets excited from a new sparkles and glasses,Of course the stadium needs to develop, grow and renew, but keep your style
St James Terrace is always going to be a problem moving forward, the only way the club can have the huge super stadium that is needed, is by moving to Leazes park, and returning St James to parkland.
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The owners have a lot of buildings in Newcastle itself and are currently moving some offices, that could potentially be freed up land directly or indirectly
Hi, I'm a new subscriber to your informative chanel about St. James Park. Safe standing is actually rail seats so there will be no increase in the Stadium. What you failed to mention is to expand the Gallowgate end is a little tricky because there a major road near the Gallowgate end and more important the new expandable Gallowgate will have some foundation piles to overcome because of the underground metro near the new proposed Gallowgate stand. Any Stadium in the UK with capacity of over 60,000+ Transport links will to be improved.. The Leazes road Stand is possible with alter the road to be closer to the building and with clever Engineering Both stands could be extended. My Question to you can an expansion of a New Stadium be built within the Newcastle Car park as Tottenham Hotspur expanded the Old White Hart Lane into the Now Tottenham Hotspur stadium today?!! A reply be nice and keep up these informative video's With Regards. Baz
I thought this was going to be some new info on an expansion, but sadly not, but I’m sure all will be revealed by the owners in good time, exiting times. ⚽️⚽️⚽️
68.386 versus Chelsea in 1930. It was Hughie Gallagher's return to Newcastle following his transfer to Chelsea. A reported 40,000 were also locked out.
i think in 30+ years St James' will be modernized to full effect with revenue stream in every aspect. I think the owners will renovate st james park in small chunks by adding more natural light so every person can see inside wanting to be a part of it. i do think we will somehow expand the stadium to atleast 62000 maybe more. the owners will take their time as much as it takes to get this right.
I never said 30 years, I'm against all the Bollex of the cathedral on the hill. A new ground is needed. Newcastle council have a cant do attitude unless palms are stroked. Very young? Foxtrot Oscar, turd brain
I think the owners will try to see what is possible over the next couole of years. They are sincere in wanting to stay. But in a few years they will nudge the fans in the direction of building a new stadium at another location.
Playing Devils Advocate for a minute. What happens if we move to a brand new 80,000 seater stadium away from the City Centre in a few years time and the dream of being a top team doesn't happen? The new fans would be gone quickish, leaving only the true fans (30-40,000?) in a soulless, half empty stadium, costing us a fortune to run, no atmosphere in the ground, no pubs near enough, etc! Just a thought.
Well, the Saudis have an endless amount of money. Why not build all stands as large as the Leazes and Milburn stands? That would definitely increase the capacity to 80,000. Just like they did it with the Twickenham Stadium or the Santiago Bernabeu. I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be possible. Given that money plays no role and everything can be solved with money. Barca is/was playing in a stadium with close to 100,000 seats which was basically never sold out, besides the big matches. And this was during the time when Messi was still playing and many tourists visited the stadium. It's not that bad of a sight if an 80,000 seater is only filled to ¾. Make the seats black and white, assembled in a non-linear pattern, which gives you the impression that less seats are empty. But if Newcastle remains the flagship of the Saudis in Europe, I don't see a decline in the foreseeable future. They have just slowly begun.
Had to happen on Corp Suites for a VIP[which we are not] remember how player cost went up and the old regime said it would take 40mil to add on and they could not sell them seats. Of course that was the basic survivals maintenance mode and sell players and not reinvest.
Think the Fans would need to promote a move, Catherderal on the hill yes but if we want to bring more revenue we need a 100k seater stadium that is fit for the generations to come. Town Moor perfect location.
What a waste of so so valuable ground that car park is, the stand should have been pushed over onto that ground when they rebuilt the stadium in the early 00's.
Rob I'm am 100% certain if a council vote was put out to ONLY Newcastle City residents to ask the people again about using leazers Park or half of it...the people would vote Yes this time around
@DC-lx8si Yes this season it is, but you won't have an extended ground for a few years yet, in that time demand will drop off again when we're not as successful as last season. It's happened time and again over the years and will happen again.
@toonboy2658 No I'm just a long term fan who has seen demand die off plenty of times. We finished 5th one season under Bobby robson, on the last day and the ground was empty before the lap of honour. It'll happen again.
I think they should go in partnership with Gateshead FC. Build a 30 000 or so capacity stadium there, use that temporarily as a shared home ground and demolish St james' and start from scratch. They should help turn Gateshead into Division one maybe even Championship team so we have somewhere local to send academy players out to on loan.
yes, I was thinking that too.
Would love to see the stadium development but definitely keeping it where it is.
If investment into St James park is not included into FFP, the sky is the limit with PIF, mega $$$ and as you said ideas to elevate the East stand and extend the Gallowgate and boomb, i reckon in 10 years time we will have a 70,000 seater/stander and the Cathedral will be the venue in the North! HWTL TOON army
70,000 seater wouldn't go anywhere near man , try getting a ticket as a member, there was 33,000 last summer on top of the full allocation of St's, hospitality, away fans & gate sales on the day (as required of all EPL clubs) 85,000 would easily see our stadium full every home match 😀
Wonder how people would feel about a new stadium 100k seats at the utilitia stadium site, huge site within easy distance of the city centre the train station and the A1?
Rev chips... That is too sensible for most. Lets keep trying to knock square pegs in round holes eh?
@@jimboll6982 That land has already been earmarked for a bunch of new housing
I think it would be nice if we had a statue of Bob Moncur standing next to Joe Harvey, they were first and only Newcastle United captain and manager to win a European competition in the form of the Fairs Cup.
Now if I wasn’t now stuck in a wheelchair, I would be for certain applying for the Hospitality and Events Manager role, that’s what I used to do most of my working career. Oh what a dream that would be to work for the club you love and support. I live near London but I’d relocate in a blink
Dont let that hold you back. If you have the skills and know how but more importantly the passion and ambition, you should at least apply. You said you would relocate in a beat. You might not get that role but something else within the club may be interested. Dont be afraid to be turned down. That application may lead to something.
After seeing the Atlanta Mercedes-Benz Stadium, its certainly got a few fans thinking about their loyalties towards St James park
Drawback is St James Park is in the city center. There is only so much that can be done. Particularly with all of the underground works.
I'd love to sit in the stands one day.
But where would that be built?
it cost a fortune to build but yeh that's not the point tbh. as much as i love SJP a new 80k stadium something along the lines of that would be amazing.
@@peterryan917 I've just seen a comment mentioning the old Calders leadwork site and old gasworks, it's literally made for a stadium like the Merc Benz. Imagine driving up the road and seeing something like that on the Riverside🤩
You took the words out of my mouth Atlanta looked amazing.
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I’m so glad Amanda and Co are planning to expand St James park
nah just move to the quayside calders yard make a 85,000 stadium
It's very simple. Pull it down and move footprint of stadium north to enable total rebuild without obstruction from leazes terrace. Whilst stadium is being built we can play at purpose built temp stadium at Kingston park.
You do realise that Kingston Park rugby ground is now surrounded by houses?
Hunters moor could be a great site only 1 mile up barrack rd , nr the central motorway and the metro could be expanded too.
@@GBDT you do realise that er...... no it isn't. There is a large empty bit of land behind the rugby stadium to the north. There is scope for a large development. It has been discussed recently by architects and planners
@@danlawson6652 By a large empty bit of land do you mean the University sports area or the bit above that. The area has problems on rugby match days, it won't be able to come with a football match day. Not to mention the NIMBY's who will be dwarfed by a stadium - even if it is temporary.
It’s as big as it can be, unfortunately the Treaty of Algeron stops us developing a cloaking device so Newcastle can’t have an invisible upper tier on the east stand and back to reality, I think we can stop with the idea that new technology is somehow going to make the stadium bigger.
Great Video Rob! Great introduction
Great view and opinions ,yet again
Picked a great day for the video.. Quality as usual rob.... Work will start when ashworth .and eales gets of there arsew from.the states... Should be there signing and selling.... No topping. Up. The tan.. Work started 4 weeks ago... Muppetts
Great work, Rob
Living down under for so many years, it seems another world since my last game at St James with me Dad Standing at Gallow gate end i remember the flooded toilets under the stands....
I do want to return one day and take in the game, Im sure i wont need my wellies this time..
Should have a transforming stadium that folds in on itself and folds out on match days, that way it will only block light while in use.
Great idea 💡 👍 you must smoke the green or like the mushrooms I presume 😂
If the owners are planning to keep sjp where it and have the foresight for it to be a Premier world leading events venue, then Leazes Terrace will need to be pushed back a little. But, this is already in the pipeline according to some. The. Sjp can can lead the way with a state of the art stadium.
Boxing would be epic at this stadium hopefully happens would be on par with Wembley
I Really like your Chanel keep doing the good job bro ❤
Great and exciting times ahead it seems Rob, the future of the club is in great hands mate. I'm an old bod so probably won't see it happen but I'm excited for the future generations mate, it'll be awesome, to quote our American cousins 👍🖤🤍🖤🤍😊
As a miggy fan from atlanta, and the mentioning of Mercedes Benz stadium, it would also be good to look at the mixed use development of truist park, the new home of the atlanta Braves.
It will be aka known as
Magnificent St James Park😊😊😊
I seen them build the east stand I would love to see them pull it down and replace it with a new one to hold a 65.000 capacity rather than move . I have lots of memories from st James park long may it continue 🤞🤞
The 1969 intercity fairs cup, the Attendance was over 68,000 and I was there
Can’t see an equivalent of Spurs Lilly White House next to SJP. Best place for that, and all corporate offices, is as part of a new training site. Will be interesting when they eventually select a site and start getting plans.
There was at least 74000 people trying to become a club member. Let that sink in. Becoming a member to help jump in front of general sale for tickets. Is it possible that an extension to the gallowgate and east stand has become redundant because capacity would still would fall well below demand.
White Hart Lane is a good model to follow
All the new ones look the same, all the old ones are special in their own way, only a child gets excited from a new sparkles and glasses,Of course the stadium needs to develop, grow and renew, but keep your style
Cant they buy the land behind the stadium and build a new stadium there? Leazes Park or the Town Moor?
Following mate
St James Terrace is always going to be a problem moving forward, the only way the club can have the huge super stadium that is needed, is by moving to Leazes park, and returning St James to parkland.
I was told that the Terrace Bar is being converted for office staff
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Build a new 1 on the Moore
Not possible
@@midlandgeordie I know wish we could the freeman and the council are arseholes
Tried that before.
@ianfarrar9391 it is possible whilst being impossible lol
Turn the pitch 90 degrees and rebuild the stadium is surely the only way.
We need to move sorry .or move them listed buildings brick buy brick
Would be nice but not gonna happen.
We cannot move the stadium, there's no where else for it to go in Newcastle and once you move it out then it's no longer our stadium
Plenty of land available
Is there?
The owners have a lot of buildings in Newcastle itself and are currently moving some offices, that could potentially be freed up land directly or indirectly
As long as it’s staying in an easily accessible part of the toon then it’s fine
Hi,
I'm a new subscriber to your informative chanel about St. James Park.
Safe standing is actually rail seats so there will be no increase in the Stadium.
What you failed to mention is to expand the Gallowgate end is a little tricky because there a major road near the Gallowgate end and more important the new expandable Gallowgate will have some foundation piles to overcome because of the underground metro near the new proposed Gallowgate stand.
Any Stadium in the UK with capacity of over 60,000+ Transport links will to be improved..
The Leazes road Stand is possible with alter the road to be closer to the building and with clever Engineering Both stands could be extended.
My Question to you can an expansion of a New Stadium be built within the Newcastle Car park as Tottenham Hotspur expanded the Old White Hart Lane into the Now Tottenham Hotspur stadium today?!!
A reply be nice and keep up these informative video's
With Regards.
Baz
I thought this was going to be some new info on an expansion, but sadly not, but I’m sure all will be revealed by the owners in good time, exiting times. ⚽️⚽️⚽️
I understood they did a month ago, stating that they had instigated a 12 month feasibility study on expansion of the East stand.
Look at all of that spare room were you are standing
If I remember rightly our biggest official crowd was 68,000 against Celtic.
68.386 versus Chelsea in 1930. It was Hughie Gallagher's return to Newcastle following his transfer to Chelsea. A reported 40,000 were also locked out.
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i think with the houses behind the east stand there is no expansion while they are there.
i think in 30+ years St James' will be modernized to full effect with revenue stream in every aspect. I think the owners will renovate st james park in small chunks by adding more natural light so every person can see inside wanting to be a part of it. i do think we will somehow expand the stadium to atleast 62000 maybe more. the owners will take their time as much as it takes to get this right.
30 years? Wow I see you have a cant do persona r you must be very young
@@jimboll6982Indeed!
In 30 years I hope I'm still healthy and alive.
I never said 30 years, I'm against all the Bollex of the cathedral on the hill. A new ground is needed.
Newcastle council have a cant do attitude unless palms are stroked.
Very young? Foxtrot Oscar, turd brain
I think the owners will try to see what is possible over the next couole of years. They are sincere in wanting to stay. But in a few years they will nudge the fans in the direction of building a new stadium at another location.
This is what happens when a previous owner does nothing in 13 years.
Playing Devils Advocate for a minute. What happens if we move to a brand new 80,000 seater stadium away from the City Centre in a few years time and the dream of being a top team doesn't happen? The new fans would be gone quickish, leaving only the true fans (30-40,000?) in a soulless, half empty stadium, costing us a fortune to run, no atmosphere in the ground, no pubs near enough, etc! Just a thought.
Well, the Saudis have an endless amount of money.
Why not build all stands as large as the Leazes and Milburn stands? That would definitely increase the capacity to 80,000.
Just like they did it with the Twickenham Stadium or the Santiago Bernabeu.
I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be possible. Given that money plays no role and everything can be solved with money.
Barca is/was playing in a stadium with close to 100,000 seats which was basically never sold out, besides the big matches.
And this was during the time when Messi was still playing and many tourists visited the stadium.
It's not that bad of a sight if an 80,000 seater is only filled to ¾.
Make the seats black and white, assembled in a non-linear pattern, which gives you the impression that less seats are empty.
But if Newcastle remains the flagship of the Saudis in Europe, I don't see a decline in the foreseeable future. They have just slowly begun.
Had to happen on Corp Suites for a VIP[which we are not] remember how player cost went up and the old regime said it would take 40mil to add on and they could not sell them seats. Of course that was the basic survivals maintenance mode and sell players and not reinvest.
Think the Fans would need to promote a move, Catherderal on the hill yes but if we want to bring more revenue we need a 100k seater stadium that is fit for the generations to come. Town Moor perfect location.
Can’t be bigger than Wembley so 100k seater is impossible
@@lukeporcher6378why is that mate?
That's true can't be bigger than Wembley.
@@shauntaylor6040Where did this myth cant be bigger than Wembley ' come from?
@@jimboll6982 FA rules.
What a waste of so so valuable ground that car park is, the stand should have been pushed over onto that ground when they rebuilt the stadium in the early 00's.
Rob I'm am 100% certain if a council vote was put out to ONLY Newcastle City residents to ask the people again about using leazers Park or half of it...the people would vote Yes this time around
2050 what the hell why bother that's another 25 years .
Jesus the sound on this is aweful damn near blew me ear drums in the first minute.
Check your headphones mate
It could become the biggest mosque outside of Saudi Arabia
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We'll finish 5th next year and there'll be empty seats again. I wouldn't touch it.
lol what
u must be crazy the demand for a seat is insane
You must be a mackem half full stadium
@DC-lx8si Yes this season it is, but you won't have an extended ground for a few years yet, in that time demand will drop off again when we're not as successful as last season. It's happened time and again over the years and will happen again.
@toonboy2658 No I'm just a long term fan who has seen demand die off plenty of times. We finished 5th one season under Bobby robson, on the last day and the ground was empty before the lap of honour. It'll happen again.
Please god no! Looks horrendous!! Glad your not an architect