They Thought this was Medicine?! | How to Drink
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- After my canned old fashioned episode you all have been asking me for more Rock and Rye so here it is. Today I am tasting some of the most popular Rock and Ryes (rocks and rye? rocks and ryes?...) on the market and I will also make some of my own.
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00:00 - Opener
00:38 - Intro to Rock and Rye
02:55 - Jacquin's Rock and Rye
04:30 - Leroux Rock and Rye
06:43 - Mister Katz's Rock and Rye
09:25 - Stolen Rock and Rye
10:38 - Hochstadter's Slow and Low Rock and Rye
13:23 - My thoughts on Rock and Rye
14:35 - Greg's plan for homemade Rock and Rye
16:37 - Watch me eat a hard candy (thrilling content)
17:27 - Release the Horehound!
18:11 - Greg's Rock and Rye
20:33 - Time Travel!
21:40 - Tasting notes on my Rock & Rye
26:15 - Be your own person
Greg's Rock and Rye:
700g or 1 bottle of Rye Whiskey
100g Horehound Candy
200g Demerara Sugar
3 orange Slices
2 Lemon Slices
1 Cinnamon Stick
1g Hibiscus
1g Bitter Orange Peel
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You should try playing Tripwire Interactive’s Maneater on Twitch, it’s a great game and I’d like to see you try it out.
I drank rock and rye last week when I had Covid. I make it with star brite peppermints and sour mash bourbon. When it’s made right it looks like peptobismal. Pink if I didn’t spell that right.
Nh liquor stores are owned by the state. They don't alow any alcohol to be brought in not through them.
Faygo makes a Rock n' Rye cola. I wonder how similar it tastes to any of these?
Do you think you'd get better (or more interesting) results on your homemade if you put the citrus in first and then putting in the horehound, dry herbs, and demerara to make a psuedo-oleo saccharum? Then mix in your booze the next day or a week later?
Fun fact you probably already knew: Leading up to, during, and possibly for a time after the Prohibition, due to how alcohol was seen by a lot of people (especially by the temperance movement) getting cocktails prescribed as medicine was a way for someone to get a drink without stigma. Also, two bonus fun facts, lemonade was actually seen as the main drink of the temperance movement because they used it as an "indulgence" drink instead of alcohol, and during the prohibition many places would sell powdered grape concentrate bricks that would be labelled with the instructions "After mixing with water, do not place the liquid in a jug away in the cupboard for twenty days, because then the juice will turn into wine." There were also ones that would tell people to either add benzoate of soda to avoid fermentation, or avoid the use of "yeast, raisins, etc., otherwise fermentation sets in." Fun ways to get around the Prohibition.
so they did everything they could to notify the public of all the ways that will make alcohol, without telling them how to make alcohol XD
@@kasuraga No, they told the public all the ways to make alcohol so they definitely would never attempt such things, as they are all law abiding god-fearing citizens of the U.S.A!
@@giliansterckx honestly shit like that happens all the time in modern USA too its funny af.
Got to love malicious compliance.
@@gaigetucker6242 but you GOT to love it. its so blatent but the government CANT do shit for it.
"This is gross"
*takes another sip*
The things Greg does to not only give us his opinion, but show his work along the way.
Greg has the same energy that Steve1989 has from tasting nearly rotten MREs
"Oh this is foul"
*Shamelessly takes another bite*
and James Hoffman too, "this is disgusting no one should drink this *takes another sip*"
The hero we need, but don't deserve 💯👏🏾✨
Tasting the worst so we don't have to ( ...and, come to think of it, tasting the best: so that we know to go get it! 😎🥃🍹)
honestly though, there are some things that just taste so horrible that you can't help but continue to eat/drink, it's wild.
@@sarahshydale4051 "This is rancid, probably been leaking for 20 years. Such a shame."
Proceeds to eat the rest of a 100 year old MRE then comes back to the rancid can:
"There's probably still some good stuff in here somewhere. Just have to scrape off the outside layer."
A whole episode on "medicinal" cocktails, remedies, cure-alls, and snake oil would be really cool. Ether historic or created for the episode.
....Could use that for my D&D game....
Actually make them. If your player manages to drink it, give them advantage on their save.
I did do a bunch of research on the medicinal side of all sorts of booze for a thesis I ended up not needing to do, but bitters, amaros, and vermouths started as medicine. Some cocktails too, like the gin and tonic, caipirinha (for the cold) and mojito (legend says it was a mix of rations for sailors in the caribbean), to name a few.
Sawbones talks about old timey medicine!!
I absolutely want to make an alchemist who's a bartender in my next game
I remember watching a show where they went to a schnapps maker, and she said, “In the morning, we call it a cocktail; in the evening, we call it a cocktail!”
Wise woman.
"the sickeningly sweet taste of decay" now that a good Lovecraft expression x)
Souds like something from nerugle
Ever used a privy in a New Jersey summer in the mountains? The sickly sweet scent of rotting and decaying human shit finds its way in your mouth as a taste.... It's hard to hold your breath for a whole dump, I can tell you that....
Color Out of Space?
"Well, you have to boil it to eat it" has to be my favorite tasting note so far. More ATHF references please.
Behold!
YOU QUESTION THE WORDS OF THE MIGHTY JIMMY?!
It's an industry term. And it's about to be your magic flying dinner.
You better not get too attached, because that magic flying carpet is gonna become magic flying dinner.
It’s an industry term
My family likes to tell a story from when I was a baby and had an earache during a visit to grandma's house. My great-grandma knew just what I needed, and shared a bit of her private stash of homemade "cough medicine," which was Jim Beam with a bunch of crushed peppermint sticks dissolved into it. I'm told it helped my mood a lot.
Your show is "recommended viewing" for most of my rookie bartenders. Appreciate your six years of hard work. Big thumbs up from Australia.
Whereabouts are you based in Aus? Anywhere in NSW?
Sorry, Melbourne FTW.
@@christopherpile9625 Ah damn, ill be sure to check every pub and bar next time im down😂
Not even kidding. My pediatrician told my mom to make cough syrup using honey, lemon and whisky. That was in the 70s. It works, too. Lemon breaks up the congestion, honey soothes the throat and the whisky helps relieve the pain and relaxes the kid.
And before anyone says anything, that was before the link between honey and Reye syndrome, and I was over 2.
So, yeah I've been drinking cocktails since I was about 3 or 4.
I mean if you're writing it means you're alive and kicking 🙌✌️
I mean that’s just a hot toddy without hot water. I drank those more than actual water when I had Covid. I used SoCo cuz I didn’t wanna use my good whiskey when I didn’t think I could savor it but it was alright
FYI, you're mixing up two different "not safe to give to kids" issues:
1) Honey in children under 1 year of age can lead to botulism because their stomach acid isn't strong enough yet to deactivate botulism spores that may be present in honey
2) Reye syndrome can affect children and adolescents; it's usually triggered by taking aspirin (or other salicylates) when recovering from a viral infection, frequently influenza or chicken pox.
That is literally my family's old tried-and-true cold remedy, going way back. We make it as a hot toddy with tea.
lemon aint gonna "break" congestion.
...maybe if you add salt and shoot it up your nose. this will flow into and through your sinus, probably causing some pain cos acid, and it may shock your system enough to change modes of mucous production.
how does honey soothe anything? it's sweet n bitey and the chemicals n stuff dont do anything in the amounts we eat.
...if you eat a whole jar quickly it might slightly alter your gut flora.
...the whisky should distract from symptoms. yay alcohol
15:05 For the viewers at home: a 750 ml bottle is also known as a "fifth." As in, it's 1/5 of a gallon. So for all practical purposes it's the same ratio in the recipes.
It's a little less than a true fifth of a gallon, but it's close enough, compared to some of the other US standard liquor bottles.
A 375ml "pint bottle" is 12.5 oz while a real imperial pint is 16oz. A "handle," which we call "half-gallons" in the trade, is 1750ml (1.75 liters), (coincidentally a liter plus a metric "fifth") while a real half gallon is almost two and a quarter liters. All of our liquor bottles sound like they're bigger than they are, except half pints, which are bigger than half of a "pint" of liquor!
I'm an idiot. An American pint is 16oz (US fluid oz), while an Imperial pint is 20oz (Imp. fluid oz.) or 19.2 (US fl. oz.). I was using Imperial as shorthand for conventional units.
In Michigan, there is a soft drink company called Faygo and one of their flavors is Rock N Rye, this entire episode I was half-expecting to see a 20.oz bottle of the stuff.
That's my favorite Faygo next to "Moon Mist". Considering it's a Cherry Cream Soda, it's interesting to see those drinks most like the pop in look taste the most foul. 🤔
Greg did use to be goth so he'd be into some dope-ass Faygo, ninja
Literally what caused me to click the link so fast. Rock N Rye was my go to aside from Cream Soda. Both only drank cold. Only monsters drink either warm.
@@Sigilstone17 LOL
Faygo Rock N Rye is my favorite followed by Redpop. Greg should try making some cocktails with different Faygo flavors.
The whole "Release the horehound" bit had me laughing my ass off. I freaking love this channel!
lmfao2
I was NOT prepared for the horehound body roll
The dance, sweet monkeys...
When Greg did the "Release the Horehound" dance, why did my mind immediately want to see Mike's reaction?? 🤣
:P Because Mike is thirsty and might well loop it! 😂😆
I've never liked ASMR but I definitely enjoy every aspect of the drink making on htd as ASMR. The pour and stirring are good but the ice cracking and shaking are my personal favorites. No other drink making RUclipsrs come close to your channels editing and sound quality.
Drink making ASMR + a slowed down lo-fi version of the music in the background, perhaps
There is a market for that asmr
Yes do it please
ASMR? How weak are ya, bub?
You know what? I totally agree with you. lol I don’t listen to ASMR, but I do enjoy all the sounds you mentioned
My grandparents always kept horehound candy around the house when I was a young lad, To me it always tasted like a combination of root beer and menthol.
Yeah, if his bag just tastes like sugar it is NOT horehound, that stuff will peel your nasal cavity like stripper on latex paint.
@@ErikWaiss Claes is super weak. The flavor is there if you knoe what to look for, but to most people it will taste like a weak root beer.
@@AleshaM30 well, boo! I remember getting some from my great grandfather as a small child and the only modern equivalent of intensity is intentionally eating fisherman's friend cough drops for fun...
"Let's taste some rock and rye, right after this!"
*ad doesn't run*
well, I guess 'right after this' is still applicable
That’s the idea.
My favorite prohibition alcohol-cured medical ailment was "Isomnia." Like yea drink 7 of these youll go right to sleep hahah
Bruh drink 7 of anything and if you’re not in bed you should be
There was a study in the UK a while back that found that beer (something like 2 pints - not an absurd amount) outperformed almost all over-the-counter pain relief medicines.
You'll have to take me at my word because I can't remember for the life of me where I read it, but I definitely read it.
@@TheMharr damn and they just reduced the drink drive limit to one pint
@@user-lv8dn8gw9z Driving is pain.
@@TheMharr I can help! It was a 2017 University of Greenwich in London literature review of 18 previous studies, published in the Volume18, Issue 5, P499-510, May 01, 2017 issue of the Journal of Pain. The article is titled "Analgesic Effects of Alcohol: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Controlled Experimental Studies in Healthy Participants" and it showed, basically, that elevating blood alcohol by about 0.08% (or around two British pints) gives the body's pain threshold a /small/ boost, and that it's about similar to codeine when it comes to relieving pain.(The follow-on from this is that-as we actually already know-many people who use drink in excess are likely doing so because they are receiving inadequate, or no, pain relief.)
Half cut Greg getting lairy trying to explain HOREHOUND is a mood lmao
Greg, I'm gonna need you to revisit the Cosmopolitan. I made one the way you made it the other night, with a barspoon of maraschino, and it was good but... You're right about the lack of dimension. I think we need a true Gregified Cosmo.
The trick to an amazing Cosmo is ditching the vodka and using a crisp, fruity gin instead. Grand Marnier instead of triple sec also adds another level to it but that can taste a bit... Dark, for lack of a better word.
The only Rock n Rye I can find in Australia is Hochstadter's Slow n Low. It is actually the beverage that sent me down the American whiskey rabbithole. Too sweet for me now, but loved it initally
I like how this episode goes through the whole process. Trying products, breaking them down, then making his own. It's cool to see.
I can confirm that my Pennsylvania grandma routinely prescribed a spoonful of sugar dissolved in whiskey for a sore throat or cough.
Another fun episode, Greg!
I kinda miss your old 'Drink Card' recipe format with the glamor shots of the finished product, where I could take a screen shot and print it out in a bar top drink manual. Your Greg's Rock & Rye sounds good, I might just try whipping up a batch!
He really should just write a bartenders guide
If you’d like to tamp down on the “orange candy” note just dehydrate your orange peels in the oven. 30 minutes in a 200 degree oven will do it.
I’ve been watching this show for a while. That was not Greg’s worst singing moment.
I recently bought a bottle of Jacquin's (I thought it sounded interesting), turns out to be an old man drink. Was talking with wife about how to make it drinkable. She felt it needed to be added to something the opposite of the drink, not sweet, maybe bitter/spiced.
I make some chai tea, chilled it and added "an amount" of Jacquin's. It's almost acceptable, but I may just get rid of the rest of the bottle
Pittsburgher here, the trick to Jacquie's is crushed ice like a julep, maybe a citrus to garnish. It's a great hot day sipper.
I would watch a 6 hour video of ice and pours. I would watch nearly daily
I would love an episode on so called medicinal drinks, or so called medicinal drinks. Would be neat to look at folk medicine
Every time I think I’m done playing with brewing and spirits… you give me wacky ideas. Love it
As a person who is alcohol intolerant, I get a certain amount of vicarious pleasure in your videos. I can't try most of the things you do, because I don't like acute digestive problems, but I enjoy your personality and since I'm a bit of a science nerd, I enjoy the subject as well since mixology is basically chemistry!
Me too (except it's just not tolerating alchohol and giving it a miss since that one incident with a bottle of Verve Clicquot) I watch his videos for the history, the conversation, the mixology, the rumination, the filming, and the editing. It's a lovely way to spend a half hour or so.
Alcohol intolerance is sooo rare...
Coming from Mississippi, our options are limited since the state buys and resells all liquor, but we have the Hochstadter's Slow & Low Rock And Rye here and I find it to be enjoyable.
Hey hey!!! Also from Mississippi! What’s up!?!
From the sip too. My local liquor store gets anything you want.
Sounds like Utah. The state that wants to be totally dry but still wants that revenue.
@@adamgreenhaus4691 yep. Just another way to get funds into the state. Drives me nuts.
@@jimmieburleigh9549 well, don’t keep it to yourself! Spread the word.
Greg, your tasting notes and reaction to the Leroux were hilarious! I had to rewatch that! Sounds like a D&D drink - something served in the taverns on the Abyssal plane. 😆
Pour and stir ASMR!?! What's not to love! Perfect for chilling out on a hot summer's day!
Really love the episodes about "medicinal" cocktails and spirits!
ASMR isn't my bag, but I could watch your slowmo close ups of you breaking ice all day. Satisfying as all hell!
That Claeys hard candy brand I actually used to see all the time at a local farmers market. I decided one day to get a bunch of their weirder flavors, like horehound, anise, and sassafras. Can't say I finished em but it's nice to see them again lol
I love how you addressed the ASMR/Slow-mo pouring/stirring reels idea. xD I really think that should be a thing. Easy content.
If there was a 6 hour video of mixing, pouring and stirring with some Rainymood and The Fragrance of Dark Coffee playing in the background I'd fall asleep to it every night!
Fun fact: Faygo Pop has a Rock 'n Rye flavor, and the only reason I know that is because my sister loves it.
okay but Claey's hard candy absolutely slaps, their lemon drops are amazing.
oooooh! i'd be down for HTD ASMR cuts, sound-focused drink making is a real treat (88rising's "japans greatest bartender" foley-focused series immediately jumps to mind)
I'm sure someone has already done it, but along side the HTD ASMR, we need an HTD with out of context xD
You know, Dave, Evan, Chris? I looked it up and you are Greg--- I've watched you since the wassail video back in december 2018 and you are great. I hope I see you do another 6 years of How To Drink
I'm always amazed by how much that list of text growing with the tasting notes adds to the show!
I love how whenever oranges come up it's ahrange. Very charming.
I have loved those exact Horehound candies for years. Stunning to see it randomly appear here.
That was great and I definitely want to try making my own! Thank you for the great content, Greg ❤️
I LOVE the pouring and stirring sounds.
Wonderful stuff, thanks for the show!
Now I imagine a group of Pennsylvanian grandmas pushing rye in the streets.
Greg, I just want to say your videos are amazing. You're not only extremely enjoyable to watch, but you also pushed me into my own project with borderline alcoholism and content creation. These infusion experiments are an absolute joy to watch.
I would love HTD drink ASMR. I can't get enough of the sounds of the ice cracking or the bar spoon stirring the drinks and of course the cocktail shaker~
Thanks Gregg. I LOVED this episode. I'm not sure I have the gumption to mix up my own batch of Rock & Rye, but I am definitely going in search of the last two pre-made versions (Stolen and Low & Slow.) I always love your content, Please keep it coming !
Definitely do an ASMR bar tending thing. It’s the best.
We ended up with a pack of those candies for Christmas this year and they taste wild. I was sick as a dog and could taste those and they opened my sinuses.
Thanks for making videos :) i don't drink alcohol but i enjoy watching you make such interesting drinks and videos, your energy is so unique and fun to watch
The degree to which I'd enjoy Greg ASMR is unfathomable
Love them candies! Looks like I'll be taken a trip to the store!
Man, if only MY grandmother thought this was her idea of medicine. Instead she gave you half a stick of Wrigley's gum no matter what was wrong with you.
That was medicine for her, she just didn't want you kids bothering her.
@@DoveAlexa admittedly, she did drink a LOT of red wine....
I'm really glad you revisited this topic!
I agree with Meredith, an hour long video for the holidays that has jazz or something over a compilation of close up videos from you guys - I’d watch !
When I was young man, 18, I worked at a liquor store in NJ in college in the late 80s. I remember the bottles of Jacquin's Rock and Rye siting on the bottom shelf forever. One day I took a bottle home (yes, I was misguided in my youth). I did not like whiskey then but I would drink a Jack and Coke and do some shots. The Rock and Rye was disgusting.
Our liquor store recently installed a new refrigeration case that they are keeping, among other things, Rock and Rye is one of the main items in there.
Growing up in Michigan, I thought Rock and Rye was just a soda flavor.
Just made my first batch of Rock and Rye and it is so good. I went heavy on the orange and clove and added a few Ricola. Thank you so much for your channel! So much great information with a side of your great personality!
Great video Greg! I'm glad you included the Slow and Low. I enjoyed that a good bit a few years back. I used to add a few extra dashes of Ango to it.
I'm from PA and have started asking around to see if any friends or family members have a recipe for homemade R&R. Everyone is saying their parents and grandparents used to drink the Jacquins!
Hey Greg Love the videos! Could you revisit fallout sometime with the Atomic cocktail? Or honestly any gaming related cocktail would be awesome, those episodes are always super unique and fun to watch.
I grew up with the Rock and Rye soda, so hearing there was a mixed drink surprised me.
Slow and Low was the only kind I've had, and I remember liking it a lot. I'm glad that it holds up, I remember thinking after the premade old fashioned vid that maybe my memory was off, but it's good to know that it's that big a difference between brands
I just realized that I want a crossover episode between How To Drink and the show Bless Your Rank on the RUclips channel It's a Southern Thing. I don't know why, I don't know what Greg (How to Drink) and Matt (It's A Southern Thing) would rank, but all I know is I need this NOW! RIGHT NOW! Just shove it into my eye holes.
I would like to see more customer is always wrong stuff, please.
pretty sure he just filmed another episode a few days ago, so there is one coming
As a Detroiter, Rock and rye means Faygo pop with the flavor you can't quite place but is pretty good. Going off Greg's reactions, I'm thinking Faygo didn't base their flavor off these weird medicinal drink things
It's a Cherry Cream Soda. It's my favorite along with Moon Mist
@@danielseelye6005 is that right? See I always thought it had some cola in it too, I never really looked it up, but I'm definitely a fan.
Mix Faygo Cherry Cola and Cream soda 50:50.
Fantastic episode! Exploration, history, and experiment! Also learned I might actually love a good rock and rye. Btw.. yes to the asmr.. spinning cubes with cocktail jazz sounds like great background filler.
Gotta say, appreciate that you looked into this. Funny I never thought of it as cold medicine but then, it has definitely worked on me in the past!
Oh, I freaking LOVE Claey's Horehound. I would be SO into this. I'm really surprised you aren't tasting the horehound. Only thing I can figure is that the Leroux and Jacquin's blew out your taste buds.
Big up the Unions, Greg just keeps getting better
Love it! I think I'm going to give this a shot. Thanks, Greg!
You could do like Glen from "Glen and Friends " and do a 10 hour take of you stirring ice in a cocktail.
false. i have seen your entire catalogue. i like it. also yeah, pour and stir asmr with the lovely visuals that you manage to get for your shots would be amazing for a few people. me included.
Yes, I would absolutely love a pouring and stirring ASMR or compilation video, that'd be pleasant!
I love the green apple flavor of that candy, great to see another video from you.
I don't think another one of your videos made me wince this much, thanks greg
Hey Greg, I work at a bar and we have this canned sake we need to move and I thought an easy way to move it would be a fish bowl cocktail, but it is not easy to find an informative video on the topic of fish bowl cocktails. Would you ever make a video on those?
I love good sake. I miss Hakusan from over in Napa. IMO they made really good stuff. Canned stuff? Erg. Sounds like it has a real potential to be vile. Hey Greg, want to do a episode on sake?
Welp, this is certainly a new one. Still holding out hope for a Bar Eastern cocktail episode, if you’re willing to do so.
nice houseki no kuni pfp!
@@elliepuckalo I was about to say. Quality show
Those ASMR ideas absolutely need to happen! The slow footage always looks stunning, and the sound would be very calming too- I’m ready for it.
I love that you know St. Louis Blues!! It's one of my favorite songs.
You have a new intro! I imagine you're aware of that. I get the rotting, chemical type of thing you're describing. I worked in a grain elevator and that sickly sweet smell of rotting grain is burned into my sinuses.
Faygo Rock&Rye will never not be relevant in the Detroit area. But the real medicine is Vernor's.
I was so hoping Faygo would appear
Hey I just want to say I love your videos me and my brother and my dad all watch it together occasionally and I’ve even fallen asleep to it just want to say keep up the good work mate!!!
Cheers to the editor and whomever does the little notations..
"Existential questions" and "like a cleanser?" were so perfect XD
6:33
Ooh, boy...!
Putting my drink away for the rest of this video.
Almost had it coming out of my nose after that one 😖
Now I morbidly curious to see someone make a mixed drink of LaRoux and malort
New-ish fan here, I love the captions, they are just very fun.
Yea the old ladies I used to work with (in Philadelphia!) always swore by Rock and Rye in some tea as a general health cure all. Just basic Lipton's tea. In a tea it is good but over ice or neat ... not so much. Thanks for this episode ... loved it!
FAYGO!
As someone whos had the consumption I wish I had been treated like that
Well, this is a turn up for the books. My grand parent on my mom's side had a bottle that he made up called "Pop's Mix" And it was clearly this. He took a bottle of Johhny Walker Red Lable and mixed it with Rosehip Syrup which is just simple syrup and rose hips in a bottle bought from the chemist (your pharmacy). Equal parts and rebottled, he gave himself a nip before bed - no matter if he needed it or not. What a great thing you've reminded me of.
Slow and Low has been one of my go to's for abnout 6 years now. Absolutely fantastic
I had no idea this product even existed before I watched this video. There's so much educational value in this channel.
Rocking the gray there, Greg!
I followed your recipe to the letter, even ordering the candies from Amazon. You, sir, are a wizard. It was fantastic. However, a friend may have stumbled on the perfect hybrid: A rock&rye sour..a Rocky Sour. Swap the alcohol, add the lemon juice and egg-basically the same order, except withholding the syrup. This is a game-changer. We’re trying to find a name for it in our future restaurant.
I'm going to vouch for Hibiscus here. When brewed into a tea it has a cranberry/raisin flavor with a good floral aftertaste. It's a great iced tea.