Leica D-Lux 8 after 2 weeks. I BOUGHT IT! | smashpop
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Leica's answer to the X100V is the D-Lux 8.
This little compact comes with a zoom lens 24-75mm f1.7 and a 22MP Micro Four Thirds sensor. But is it good enough? Here's my review after 2 weeks.
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Originally I really wanted one. Then I didn't. But now I've changed my mind again. I really want one!
the heart wants what it wants :P
@@smashpop I'm pushing 60. I guess it's a middle life thing, you know, splashing out on a fancy car or whatever when a damaged old banger that still roadworthy (yes, I do have one of those!) would suffice. lol! I used to own an M6, but it was so damn expensive to get new lenses back in the early 1990's that I sold it in favour of the new digital Canons that were arriving on the market. But I think I also sold the M6 because being a Leica, it had no fancy stuff on it, no bells and whistles etc, and just like the D-Lux 8 you are forced only to do one thing and that's take photographs. This is what I love so much about my old GR (D IV), that it's a camera with a fixed focal length, and you only have one choice, to take pictures. No excuses. You cannot dream of anything else once you get a Leica. AND you must justify that price, by just getting on with it and take pictures. I hope you get where I'm trying to go with this argument! It's art and a sort of spiritual Zen, where you have no choice but to explore the world and press that shutter button.
Save your money and get a Panasonic LX100 II for half the price. Basically the same camera.
@@michaelbell75 rubbish. The LX100II is out of date, and uses a completely different operating system. I'd rather buy new instead of relying on an overpriced behemoth that some previous owner may have dropped by mistake. I mean ask yourself, if it is that much better, why are they selling it?
Great Video and review!
Super excited about this camera. Think this will be my first digital Leica. Only a couple things I can think of that would make it even better; a couple more aspect ratio options (4x5 & panoramic) and weather sealing.
Save money for a real Lecia. This is more of a Panasonic than a Lecia.
The biggest issue with the LX was what they werent sealed against dust, so when the dust gets onto the sensor, it's basically stuck.
You think they could just put in a sensor shaker and a little replaceable hatch with a sticky interior in the base to soak up the dust. Or possibly an access port to the sensor. It does not seem an immensely technical problem. The problem is the makers just seemed to think with compacts once sold they could be forgotten hence few firmware upgrades. This concept did not allow for the inflated prices now charged for such disposal items. Surprising that this remake of an old design at an inflated price is such a complete surprise to the experts. So many people posted after using these particular LX100 cameras vowing never to buy a fixed lens camera again. Nice enough camera if you can afford the risk of throwing them away after a few years.
It is the LX100 II in new clothes.
It's a 5 year old LX100 II with a red dot on it?
The red dot tax
Yes. I have the LX100M2, and I agree.
I guess the EVF is not trash like in the LX100 II?
@@ManuelPalaciosVZLA it wasnt to me. i enjoyed the evf.
@@smashpop sorry, you are right. It felt like trash to me. Maybe it was my copy. In any case it does seem like the Leica has an improved viewfinder… but still, it is the same sensor and lenses. I really like the images coming out of my LUMIX, so I don’t need to pay for the red dot :)
All things considered I would have been more than happy with your little Ricoh. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us all Sir.
no problem. i still love the ricoh. but i really want to zoom as well haha
What is the filter thread size for this camera? I’m assuming it’s 43mm like the dlux 7?
Does that screw on the shutter work for a cable or just for soft touch button?
A lot of people in the comments are throwing shade to the camera as if they were making them purchase this camera.
If you’re not the target customer move on
So god says you can only keep the griii or the d-Lux 8. Which one would you keep and 3 main reasons? FYI I’m a Leica user (q3 and sl3)who’s EDC is a griii……!
What's UI that he referred to about 2/3rds of the way in? User Interface?
17MP is kind of a bummer, but the zoom lens seems great!!
Kinda an ignant statement, no?
Great video. Thanks for your view
thanks for watching!
The price is criminal. Especially considering the Ricoh GR iii is there.
Criminal in as too expensive or a bargain compared to?
I’ll be honest this thing actually competes hard with the Ricoh in my eyes. I might pick one up when I go to Japan.
I think my sony rx100va beats the GRIII any day with a built in viewfinder and zoom capability. True it cannot compare to GRIII “street photography” shooting style. And the sensor is smaller, but all around it is a lot more fun to use than the GRIII. GRIII is overrated.
As an owner with 2 full frame cameras. I am happy to be able to have a small camera as my daily driver. This D Lux 8 seems like a step upgrade from my rx100v5a.
I was thinking about the Q2 or Q3. But they are still quite big and heavy. In this case since image quality is not the main focus here. Portability and ease of use are main reasons for me to buy the D Lux 8
@@stephjant6461it's a 5 year old camera. They shouldve updated it compared to its Lumix counterpart
@@tomfenn7149criminal as in expensive...
Just a rebadged Panasonic LX100 ii introduced in 2018. Same sensor, same controls, etc. And the Panasonic was at a MUCH lower price.
You really should read the specs it look over a serious review. Fundamentally you are right about the basis of the hardware, of course, but the controls and software have been fundamentally redesigned. Whether that is worth the money Leica are asking is an important question, but that is the same with anything a Leica badge.
Just because something has the same sensor doesn’t mean it’s the same camera. Ergonomics, software and shooting experience matters. Doesn’t make it worth the price or not worth the price but it does matter.
@@TheOjnop Yes, because controls and software are worth another $1,000 over the 2018 Panasonic model 😃
Wasn't impress with Lumix 7. With this reskin model with better software at this price ?
You should probably have mentioned that this is a rebadged (and slightly upgraded) Panasonic LX100mk2, but, then again, you thought micro four thirds was dead so maybe you genuinely didn't know.
i really didnt know lol
Regarding Micro 4/3rds: Yeah, Panasonic and Olympus continue to come out with new upgrading cameras using that sensor. I've been shooting with them since they jointly introduced the mirrorless concept with the Micro 4/3rds sensors 12-13 years ago.
It would be great if Leica would offer the D-Lux8 VF: a video-free unit that is about 30% less expensive…for the dedicated still photographer….on a budget.
The ‘core or heart’ (ie MFT sensor and Leica lens combination) are the same as Panasonic LUMIX LX100M2! Only differences are the ‘cosmetic’ (including the monitor, controls and EVF) look changes in line with the Leica Q range of cameras.
I have the LX100M2 and get exceptional usability and really good quality images!
However, if you’re a Leica fan, as I am, and if I was in the market for a EDC (Every Day Carry) camera with quality- I would certainly buy this camera with added ‘Street Creditability’ of the Red Dot!
Is this better than the x100vi?
If I didn't already have my Olympus Pen F. I would probably buy this Leica. Crazy thing my Pen F I bought many years ago. Was about the same price as the D-Lux.
I don't know if I want a D-Lux 8, I am thinking about Q3.
if u have money. go for q3.
From my days of camera of similar ergonomics. An on-off push button is the worst thing as there is no way to know by feel whether the camera is on or off. I hate motorized zooms. I always over or undershot, fine adjustments are hell to do.
If the sensor is an MFT one why can't it make use of all the megapixels in 4:3 format?
I like push on-off buttons in pocketable cameras because it prevents accidental activation, though I certainly wouldn't call the DLux 8 pocketable. For whatever reason the optics don't cover the full M43 sensor, which I think is reasonable given how compact it is.
Watching all these reviews on the Leica D-Lux 8, none state whether the camera is weather and dust-sealed. The Lumix LX100ii had a huge problem with dust on the sensor and no way to clean it.
I bought an lx100 for 280 euros. It's the same.... Beautiful though. The leica lens is amazing, colours are really nice
Rico with the same size is APSC right?
Yes, 24Mp
Be Nice if Leica did a version of the pani S9 with working flash shoe … the S9 has amazing dimensions for FF
Be even nicer if Pani did a version of it ;)
I want one, but I'd rather have the same body with an m43 lens mount. That would be a dream.
What about the Sony RX100?
Would really want a Fixed Lens Leica APS-C to challenge the X100 series. Price it equal to an upcharged X100VI (Approx $2400 or $2500 U.S.) and see who wins for sales vs. Fuji.
it's a ok cam without much design.Just love the way they make these compact cam w a grand price . Nevertheless much better than just the name "Grand" call Sekio ,with eco look ,which they called it classic
I really like it but a so small sensor in 2024. I have a GRIII the photos are very good but I really miss a zoom.
hi 5!
Most people doesn' t need bigger sensors..... do you print photos?
@@patrickgrutter4867 I don’t print all but some of them. But I really don’t like that my GRIII is a fixe lens
I preordered 5/23…still waiting☹️
Will wait for leica QE
Put holes in the bottons so a pen type thing could be used.
you should have mentioned in your review that leica has removed "step zoom" and "zoom resume" from the menu. this firmware lobotomy takes away two of the most useful features of the d-lux 7. also, the middle ring on the lens cannot be used for zooming. you're at the mercy of the little zoom lever.
I’m not sure this is a good camera for street photography, unless you’re going to use the zone focus system. I need a street camera that turns on quickly and focuses quickly.
Already have enough trouble with my Fuji cameras, so I don’t need anything slower. 🖖
u might have a point.
They should only make fixed lens compact m43 1.7 lens. That's the only way to be similar with Q series. Now long extracted zoom lens is very ugly.
There was an interesting article that explains why German made Leicas are more expensive but these are not made in Germany so Ricoh is much better in value in my opinion. Crop sensor wins vs. mft
But have you owned a Ricoh? I've owned three GR's and two of them (both the newer GR, not GRD models) were so unbelievably unreliable. Failing lenses. Dust. Poor back wheel, GR3 OS always crashing etc. etc. Urghh! My 12 year old GRD4, still my favourite, is a workhorse, but the sensor in it is slowly dying. Although both Ricoh and Leica are metal, the Leica just looks more sturdy than anything made recently by Ricoh. Ricoh and Fuji are also made in China. And lastly at least on the Leica, and just like the older GR's you get 4:3. On the GR III you're stuck with 3:2 and 1:1. Nothing else. And why crop if you have a zoom? With Ricoh you're stuck with a fixed 28mm or 40mm equivalent. So if you want both focal lengths, it actually works out way more expensive than the Leica!
@@tomfenn7149i have a leica Q1 that has dust inside and the screen is bleeding. Have to send it to a different country just to remove the dust. Also had a leica M3 that couldn't find where the light leak was coming from even after sending it to one of the best Leica camera repairmans in UK.
Can non-malaysian people buy iphone with installment??
Haven't heard of MFT in the past 10 years?
I’m having Fujifilm XT30 ll , should I go for Leica DL8 ???
No...
@@JimmyPifPaf 🙏
This camara is not Panasonic, it has an leica lens on a camera. Leica lens is sharp and leica uses Leica software
Almost 9 thousand. Is it worth it? It feels like buying but 🤔
if u really like it. then its worth it.
Price in Japan 286,000 YEN include tax。
100 usd is worthwhile buy
Lmao. It’s a reskinned 5 year old panasonic lx100ii
I cannot buy it and I have nothing to photograph.
Leica loooookkkksss come on! haha
Get a Fuji XT50 instead of this.
Expensive toy
Enjoy your 5 year old Lumix technology. But hey, at least it's a "Leica."
Subtle
No “Leica Look”, i wont buy it. Sorry.
17mp is a joke.
Lumix inside 😂
Nice but expensive Chinese camera with fake "Wetzlar Germany" on it.
I don’t consider it a genuine Leica. Made in China.
but iPhones are also made in china. they r still genuine iphones though. the x100vi also made in china. just saying hahah
@@smashpop yes, but Leicas are regarded as a precision instrument manufactured in Germany by skilled craftsmen. iPhones have always been made in China and everyone knows that. If iPhones had been made in the U.S. or in Japan and then switched manufacturing to China, I would have a problem with that too. I have the Fuji X100 F and the X100 V. I will not be getting the X100 VI because I think Fuji is doing a disservice to their customers by moving manufacturing to China.
It’s not a true Leica
I mean it looks cool but its a lot of cash for some quite old technology.
Overpriced, over hyped, Junk!
Wasted your money it’s the Leica fever. It is a rebadged Panasonic LX100 II with a couple of minor upgrades. What a rip off Leica is.
Lx100 chads rise up
For that price it is a joke. Not ever funny joke
I do wonder who falls for all these new camera iterations lol... really? Sorry but 😂
this is literally a reskinned dlux7
No, no, and no! As someone that likes Leica cameras, this is complete BS. Leica needed to have at the very least upgraded the sensor and added phase AF. The same exact camera as the previous one allover again (and that was already a clone to start with) just in a new box and with new menus doesn't cut it, sorry. This is almost 10 year old tech needing far more than new makeup to justify a new model name or this kind of cost. I have a Q3, upgaded from an original Q and I can firmly say that the 3 generations have been palpable upgrades and paths forward. The D-Lux 8 is plain non-sense just to have something to release in this new idiotic and stupid wave and hype of retro compact cameras. And made in China DOES MATTER for something supposedly of this category and status. Leica should have done much better and had plenty of time to do so. No excuses.
Iphone noob...
Lx100Ii with a better software and design. Waste of money.
How you can describe the EVF as high res when it's a 2.4m dot screen straight outta 2015 is a joke
So its just an old Lumix LX100 ii with a Leica price tag. Advertising this camera without talking about that is weak and makes me not want to watch anymore.
This camera is not better than a Ricoh GR or a Fuji.
Shame.
can you speak english