Ganzo Axis lock adjustment - How to soften the actuation 🔧
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2016
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Some Ganzo Axis lock knives come very stiff and would do well with a simple adjustment. By removing the scales you have access to the two springs, one on each side, which can be bent slightly to reduce spring tension.
If you cannot actuate your Axis lock with just your thumb (no index finger) our opinion is this is way too stiff.
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You posted this 6 years ago and it is still relevant and useful 6 years later. Thank you
I broke one of the springs and I took a piece of guitar string, that is close to the same gauge as the spring and bent it in the same shape as the spring. Works great. Just like the original spring.
brilliant, never thought of that! is ernie ball smoother than elixir?? ;)
I know this is an older video but this is EXACTLY what I was looking for.
I just got a Ganzo 7531, which is similar to the 724, but I believe slightly bigger.
It is an 8.5” knife with a large, full bellied, thick(ish), heavy, drop point blade.
A bit too big for me for EDC, but a perfect truck, or backpack, or fanny pack knife.
The thumb stud opening action is a little tight, but will loosen with use.
However, the axis lock is literally painful to operate and you DO NOT want to screw around and slip with the 7531 because it is an absolute guillotine and the weight of the blade alone is enough to lop off a digit with ease.
So, thank you for this! New sub here!
Btw… Ganzo knives are among my favorite budget production EDC folders.
I have several and intend to get many more.
For materials, fit, and finish, they offer some of the best bang for your buck, without question.
I think CIVIVI is the very best of the budget offerings, but I sure love my Ganzo’s.
I want to thank you guys for doing this video. I just recently bought a Ganzo 712, and, that lock was STIFF. So much so, I was considering shelving it. I had to use both thumb, and, index finger to actuate the lock, and, it was still hard to work. Your how-to worked fantastically. My 712 is now close to Benchmade's Axis Locks in smoothness, and, ease of operation. I can now use just my thumb to actuate, and, work the Axis Lock, just like on my Benchmade folders.
Also, this was my first Ganzo knife, but, most definitely will NOT be my last (thanks to you guys). I now have three more on the way.
Finally, new subscriber. I like y'all's presentation style, and, content.
we really appreciate that Mike!
I actually prefer the lock stiff, but it's good to know the spring can be adjusted. Thank you for taking the time to share.
thanks for watching!
You guys are doing gods work. Thanks for the help my g729 was sooooo bad.
22 gauge memory wire, you can get it at most hardware stores
Can’t imagine that would be easy bending it into the proper shape. For the average person that’s probably gonna be a no-go
What i found also helps is to take some 400 grit then 1000 grit paper and smooth out the channel the access lock slides back and forth in. My knife has ever the slightest machining marks and once they were smoothed out the lock slid back and forth alot smoother. I just rolled up the paper put the liners in a vice and fed the paper back and forth through the channel til smooth. Worked great. Now with adjusted springs and a smoother access lock channel it is pretty slick
Thanks for the tip. I did this to two of my ganzo knives, g729 and g727m. Works like a charm.
thanks Tylor!
Thanks a lot, mate! I’ve bought 2 ganzo knifes (one for myself and another one as a gift). The axis lock was about as bad as it was on yous with spiderhole in it, and after doing what you’ve done, I managed to make it open brilliantly. And yeah, you can replace the spring with a guitar string ;)
Excellent demonstration. I have many Ganzos and the few that the axis lock will not loosen with normal use I will try this mod. Thank you and I subbed.
Thank you so much for this video, just did this to all my ganzos and it completely changes them.
awesome, thanks for commenting!
I watched your videos on the Ganzo knives. I was thinking there is no way in hell these knives are any good. $20, no way. So I bought 2 different models to try. Freaking shocked is what I was. Unbelievable quality for a $20 knife. I will be doing this mod on both of the knives as they are both a little to difficult to open and close. My benchmade axis lock was a couple of hundred dollars more. The axis lock is definitely easier to operate. I will be modding these guys to match. I can’t believe I could buy at least 10 Ganzo knives for what I paid for the benchmade. Don’t get me wrong I love my Benchmade but , Ganzo - still shocked!
A+ on your videos.
awesome! Thanks Ken
I just performed this adjustment on a new G727M, working great now. 👍🏾
awesome!
Thank you for this. Did the same on a new Sitivien that was insanely stiff. Works like a dream now.
I just love how you guys aren't still snobs you do excellent reviews on all types of knives and I'm the exact same way I appreciate a good knife alma mater if it's a budget knife or a high-end knife so thank you
Sorry about the speech-to-text misspellings.
Just got my G729 today. Watched this video as my axis lock was very stiff. Thankfully, all screws came out fine and I was able to adjust the "omega" springs. Action is great now. Gave it the spa treatment and it works great!! Only negative is that the tip of the blade is just a touch bent looking. Not a big deal to me. I love it!!
Can't wait for my F753M1-CF to get here! ;)
Is there a place to get the Phos/Bronze washers? I'm not a fan of the teflon one. Thanks.
Thanks. This mod helped me get my Ganzos to where I can open them one-handed.
So I fixed all of my ganzo. Thanks for the awesome video. I did find, and only at your own risk, you can cut down the spring at the bend that fits in the hole on the handle. It reshapes easily. Good luck guys, totally worth it.
thanks for watching!
Thank you. Just bought my 1st Axis lock & don't like it. I'm going to try this & I bet I'll reconsider
Thank you. It made my F753M1 action much smoother.
Thanks I will be looking into this. I have several Ganzos with this type of mechanism. Great video!
we appreciate the comment!
This video has helped me out sooooo much, thank you so much for uploading this
thanks for watching!
Who 'd a thunk it! Great tip guys! I do have a Ganzo auto and a axis Definitely will carefully try this tweak on my axis lock! 😄
I'm glad I saw this. Mine is that way. Thanks Byrd! Ganzos are good knives at a cheap price.
I just bought the G729. Wasn't aware of the Ganzo version of the Spyderco paramilitary until very recently. I wish I had been able to obtain the earlier model with the round thumb hole. I have several Ganzos, the spring on mine is very stiff but I think I'll just deal with it. Thank you for your video!
I have the same problem with my g729. Kinda weird it happened to you to for the stiff lock. I'll try this. Thanks fir the tip!
good luck!
nd a smooth flip closed when I use the axis lock. bending the spring was THE thing to make the knife more user friendly. Thanks for the advice.
Hey guys, since it's your videos that finally prompted me to give the G727 a shot I figure I may as well leave my impressions tuning the knife here:
Disassembling the knife and trying to adjust the omega springs by bending them further didn't work so well at first. Then I noticed that the action was super-smooth while the scales were off but got very stiff and gritty when putting them back on.
The reason for grittiness was the thumb stud rubbing against the top of the scale groove, so I filed that down a couple of microns until the gritty feel went away. However, this did not solve the overly stiff action.
Examining the inner cavity where the springs reside revealed marks where bottom of the spring was being pushed against the scale. I believe that because of the deep finger groove on the handle Ganzo made this cavity too shallow without adjusting the shape of the omega spring.
Pulling on the lock thus caused the spring to lean against the bottom of the scale cavity and immediately increase resistance by a tenfold. I fixed this by adding a bit more curve to the relatively straight part of the spring (the original spring is shaped like a comma, I bent it into a more of a "c" shape).
Now the action is silky smooth but the modification introduced very slight up/down play on the blade since the lock bar is not being pushed so forcefully forward, and also because filing the scales groove allows it to travel a bit further up. I think I can fix this by filing a few microns from the front portion of the lock groove, allowing the bar to travel further towards the blade.
Finally, replacing the nylon washer with a brass one (G727 has one of each) should make the blade centering better and also allow torquing the pivot harder without compromising blade travel.
Thanks for the vids, I'm very happy with my purchase, calloused thumb and all.
Vladan Radmilovic nice comment man very informative
Thx for the intro to the Ganzos guys! I’m a little late to the knife addiction but just got the G733-BK today and have a F729-CF is on the way! Also eyeing that FH-41 in Blue you guys showed in a video, I thank you, my wife does not! Ha
Many thanks for this, I will give it a go.
Thanks for watching! (all these years later)
Man, I have the exact same kife. It has been sitting on my dresser, because I didn't want to use it. I really like this knife,I have two of them. Know what I will be doing tonight. Thanks.
Wow that is so much better thankx man. I a had a srm that wasn't near as bad as my ganzo but still crap. I was going to drill holes like kizer clutch lock but this is way better than drilling new holes
Perfect! I got a Ganzo G753 (regular G10) a few weeks ago and the ONE thing I hate about it is that stiff-@ss axis lock. No way I can easily use one thumb to open it. I just took delivery of the black carbon version today, and it is MUCH better, and easy with one thumb (once it heals). I'm ordering one for a friend too - I'm hard pressed to come up with a better knife between $16-23.
Anyway, I had considered removing one of the springs, but thought there might be some slight torquing out of alignment, which apparently it sounds like you experienced. What you've done looks like a pretty easy remedy, so thanks for beating me to it!
yep, easy mod. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for helping solve my stiff axis lock issue. My Ganzo G7392 orange knife works way better now. :)
awesome, thanks for watching!
Awesome! I got a ganzo just the other day. The axis lock is quite stiff. I will be sure and try this. Thanks for the video! :)
just be careful and try a small adjustment first
Thanks. I made smaller adjustments until that "ugly ducking" Spring resembled more of a "swan" like shape lol. It made a big difference. Thanks again for the tip!
Thanks guys, I just got a big-ass Ganzo F740 that needs some fettling (great old word from the north of England - it means fine adjustments)!
lol awesome!
I have fettled my Ganzo, and it's a lot better now!
"fettling" is also southern US slang
Thanks for the information!!!
Thanks ,, now I have something to do tonight , great review guys
Thanks Freddie!
thank you! I needed this video!
Cheers for that guys, the lock on my G727M is a wee bit strong so will give this spring bend thing a try. ATB
Thanks Jeff!
Nice vid!
I haven't got my knife yet, just ordered it... but this is good to know!
the newer models seem to be good to go more and more. Depending on what you get, it might perfect right away.
Cool tip, was wondering why my 729 was so difficult until I forced the axis lock way back whitch kind of bent the spring. But still is a little stiff again.
Have a look inside, see if it can be adjusted
just what I was looking for . my Elan is really stiff on the axis locke . Thanks knife man and knife girl lol
lol thanks for watching!
My Ganzo G727M definitely needs this...Just got it and the release is absolutely awful. I would suggest finding something to bend the Omega springs around so they are as close to identical and uniform as possible. I know, its a 15.00 knife lol Anyway, Great vid! Just the answer I was looking for...same brand, same problem, Thanks for taking the time to do this!
I lost a spring out of a g704 .i softened up the spring that was left and it worked fine .
I leave them on the knife and bend them so that the end that goes in the hole is .25 in. To the hole it seams to be a good tension .operates really well after that .got to watch the blade retention though .its got to have enogh spring to hold the blade in when closed .
Thanks very much for making the video. I liked before I even watched it
we really appreciate that!
obrigado pela dica .
Ganzo has all my favorite knife with my favorite locking mechanism. So in conclusion ganzo is my favorite knife company. I just bought there g7533-cf. Can't wait till it gets here. I also have a plethora of benchmade pocket clips to chose from since almost all of benchmades pocket clip fit on it. I'm trying to decide if I should go purplish blue or just purple or just blue. You thoughts will be very appreciated.
Cool thanks for the tip.
Thanks Alexis!
Fantastic video! Thanks.
Cool tip. You could also try bend the spring around a rod just to more evenly distribute the pressure when bending and hopefully prevent it from breaking when doing this modification.
Probably wise, thank you!
Thank you. Great info.
Thank you for your excellent video.
I've been doing similar to this on the Enlan EL04MCT, big difference.
thanks for watching!
I know this is an old video but very thankful as my new ganzo needs this adjustment really bad.
thanks Scott!
Can't easily get the scale off clip side. Been a long snow day so could be just to tired.
Nice I thought was the only one who took everything I had apart lol.. Nice tip guys
lol thanks man!
Yes finally saw you q and a and it was what I was asking for lol
YES!!! lol thats right, good suggestion
Nice way to make a good knife better,,,That's gonna make a lot of knife people smile,,,,Take Care
Great vid yall. Very helpful.
we appreciate that!
Great tip. Thanks
thanks man!
ty so much for this video i was going to try and trade mine because of the lock...i hope mine turns out...again ty
Good luck Troy!
Without taking my ganzo 741 apart. I put flitz on a qtip and used it on the round part of the blade that you see when the blade is closed. It opens and closes so silky smooth now. Feels like a high end knife. I know this has nothing to do with it being a strong axis lock but trust me this will make your knife open and close like its on rails. The part I polished is what the axis lock bar rubs on.
which round part?
This was my thought. Removing the blade and smoothing out the round part underneath where it pivots and the cutout for the axis lock slides in. I haven't received mine yet but I think I'll also clean up the cutout in the frame and scale for the axis lock, which combined with the previous step should lessen the friction significantly. I shouldn't have to weaken the springs as much then and should get solid lockup.
Great video thanks
Thanks Kevin!
you can buy spring wire by the spool if you want not sure if it would work well for this use.
This was my first Ganzo knife. And it made me shy away from Ganzo. Not only are the springs too hard. But the crossbar is too short.
I have decided to try them again, with the 727. I own three Sitviens. And they are each fabulous. I really hope this next Ganzo isn't as bad as the first.
Give them another shot. The ones with axis locks and thumb studs are a bit stiff, but the flippers with liner locks are great and have excellent action right out of the box.
Thanks a lot for this. Now I can fix mine. 😁👍
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Thanks, i'm going to try that on one of mine
thanks 007!
I usually just take one off, on the stiff ones and it works great..save the other one for a backup
Done! Thanks
awesome!
Holy yes thank you so much I never thought of this thought it would losen with time im definitely doing this. risk it for the biscuit
Awsome tip thanx for info
thanks Matt!
Thx for good info! My new G739 is extremely stiff, and was wondering what I had to do to break it in and get it loosened up a bit. My thumb is pretty sore. lol
thanks for watching!
If anybody has an extra set of Drop Bear Omega Springs lying around, they work perfect to replace the springs in a Ganzo g729.
Awsome vedio thanks
I've been using EDCing the G729 - a very good knife, I only had to sandpaper the handle and properly oil the lock, and I removed the pocket clip, which made it a lot more comfortable to hold. My knife needed no spring adjustment, not stiff at all after about 100 actuations of the lock.
thanks for the feedback. The newer knife releases have been better and better, requiring this mod less and less
Thank YOU for your great videos :)
good thx
Hi guys, love your banter, I got a few Ganzos, used your mod on them, what a difference it made, I am from the UK and cannot really legally street carry any of these knives. I am just a knife knut and collect usually good American knives, my main EDCs are GEC slips, mostly under 3in blades, which is legal here. Quite glad you started doing mainly knife vids though as the only shooting I do now is 12 bore on birds and bunnys plus a bit of clays to keep my eye in. It might be frowned upon by the British constabulary if I was to walk about with a hogleg strapped on me, LOL. It is a bit disturbing that you guys got so much sick comments about your gun opinions from supposedly legal gun owners in the USA, Anyway love your channel, God Bless
we really appreciate the support, sorry about the recent ranting lol
Got the Ganzo G753M1-CF today. The axis lock was very stiff and the pivot was very tight. I took care of those easily. It works very smoothly now. The carbon fiber is very nice. I love this knife!!
My 753 pivot is super tight..how did you loosen it, I was afraid I was gonna strip mine ! My axis lock is also stiff
I think it will make them more prone to unlock itself by acident on heavy usage scenarios. I have one g704 and a g717 and both ones became smoother after the break in period.
In terms of the spring itself though, it is much less subject to break-in. Parts sliding against each other will wear away asperities and smooth together. Springs will take an initial "set" after being stressed the first time or two but they will wear MUCH slower after that. Think of the springs on your car, they will stay more or less they same for a lifetime of use.
very cool!
thanks DJ!
Lost one out of a 704 ! Still works good !
Hope to see a new vid from you soon. 5 days is too long! Hopefully you are both well, and you're not getting burned out.
nah, got lazy. It happens here and there lol. String of vids coming!
+BirdShot IV No worries.. making vids is a lot of work.. which is why I don't!
thanks
thanks for watching!
I bought one of the Spyderco style Ganzos about 2 weeks ago and couldn't get the lock to actuated more than about 1/8". It was like it hit a wall. Sent it back to the big A.
thank you very much. Great video :-)
Thank you Andy!
+BirdShot IV :-)
Think of a Ganzo as a knife kit. You get all the parts but then you have to finish them and reassemble them correctly to get a good knife. Smoothing out irregularities, bending springs to the correct shape, polishing washers that are crudely punched, etc.
I did the mods on my 727. I over did it the first time and ended up with up-down play. Re-did the spring and it is perfect now. It is tricky, if you do too much it ends up with play it affects centering some. If you don't do enough there is no results.
good info, glad you got it right!
I bend them to about 1/8 from the hole .then adjust for blade retention !
since u guys have plenty of knifes, have you guys every tried to remove a screw on a ganzo knife or any knife in general and it just wont come out? I ask this because im trying to do the things in the video with the correct screwdriver a t-6 and only 2 screw comes out and the other ones just wont even spin. Both on my g741 and on my g712
How loose should a closed, properly adjusted axis lock knife be? If I crank down the pivot screws to the point where I can just get it open with the thumb stud, I can still get movement of a closed blade by shaking the knife upside down. It does snap back into place, but is that movement of a closed blade normal? If I try REALLY hard, I can get the blade to come out and stay out. Do you feel axis lock knives are as safe to carry in a pocket?
Hello,
i have a Benchmade Rift and one of the springs broke yesterday while i was playing with it... Do the Ganzo Springs fit on Benchmade knives ?
I do work on all my ganzos!!
I have the same results after accidentally running mine through the wash!
i've got the g7531-cf and one of the scale screws just spins and wont come out.
Where can i get a spring for it ? (I'm making a spring knife myself)
I saw diz, and i adjust my G727, but when it comes to my G702, i dont know how to open the pivot screw, could u see the 702 ones and how do open the pivot screw 😭
I got the screws out but how do I remove the handle skin? I'm fighting with this thing
whether the bolt behind the blade must be tightened?? because it's mine if the bolt is tightened, it doesn't even run smoothly
if u clearance the scales out a little with a dremel it makes it easier to get to the axis bar , therefore making it thumbable
Good tip, you should make that vid!
+BirdShot IV soon as I get a tripod I will
I guess im going to have to get a Ganzo
gotta have at least one!
Don't be surprised if you find yourself getting MORE than one . . . (so far, three in as many months)