What if Marilyn Monroe had lived? (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2025
- What if Marilyn Monroe had lived? A look into the films she was planning to do, and the films she might have done had she lived, as well as what her legacy might have been.
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Also, I forgot to mention that she was up for a part in “In Old Chicago” about the Great Chicago Fire. Plus, I realised too late that “Let’s make Love” was released in 1960, but I’d argue really had a very 50s flavour to it
I agree with you about "Let's Make Love" having a very 50's flavor to it being from 1960 itself. Even though the 60's took on a look of their own even by 1961, it wasn't quite there overall in '60. One exception IS Marilyn's own 1960 film, 'The Misfits' where she definitely already had a 60's look which was surprising as she (and the film) were probably the first to do so in the new decade.
She definitely had her finger on the pulse of the 60s with The Misfits. It would have been interesting to see how she would have handled the lightening fast changes in the decade
Hi. I love this hypothetical analysis of What Would've Been for Marilyn Monroe. Man, 2022 became a fascination on the 50s stars especially on Monroe.
thank you so much for watching! Your comment is so kind
Thanks for your great imaginations! The main difference between Marilyn Monroe and her blond imitators is that Norma Jean wanted to be a great actress and since day number one in Hollywood , she was a work in progress! She was magnetic in the screen! And she was doing a transition to more dramatic roles like in The Misfits representing a woman older than herself. I do not see Norma Jean as a performer in Las Vegas because she was trying to move away from a cliché! She did not need studios promotion because the entire media and the world was fallowing her and she knew how to manage them and promote herself. Many people in Hollywood did not respect Marilyn because she did everything by herself without a family and in a non conventional way! With all her contradictions and personal problems , she was determinant, very strong and a work in progress! Norma Jean created Marilyn Monroe as an artisan , she was fired more than once , they make funny about her , she resisted everything, she was to NY to take classes at the Actors Studio, and every time she fought with the Powerful Studios , she won! Even in her last fight, she was rehired before she accidentally died! Little Norma Jean really changed this world! ❤️❤️❤️❤️👋👋👋👋👋
I believe that had she lived she would.have developed Marilyn Monroe Productions further and she would have written, directed, and produced a variety of top notch films and some of which would be very clever statements about the world we live in that would still be poignant today. I believe she would have been in front of the camera but in a much broader sense where she could play much deeper characters, tested boundaries, and taken the industry in a whole new innovative direction. She had an IQ of 160 and was always studying. She was brilliant!
I totally agree with you
💋 thank you
No. The intelligence quotient of Marilyn Monroe Ji were actually rather unknown and untested. By what it doth appear.
@@HamishDownie The movie was never intended to be "finished." Marilyn signed a life insurance policy and the studio collected 13 million which in today's value in film would be 90-110 million. 20th was drowning in debt due to Cleopatra and E.Taylor's antics and health complaints. This was Marilyn's last owed contractual obligation to 20th..Greenson was employed as her handler and "psychiatrist" to keep Marilyn addicted and more. He employed Eunice 6 months before Marilyn's death. Eunice Murray slowly poisoned Marilyn with minute drops of cyanide, undetectable and hence why she emptied the refrigerator into her bag before she left, as opposed to putting it in the bin. They then changed their stories many times over and deflected all suspicion toward Bobby Kennedy. Even Hoffa knew what happened to Marilyn and he had the listening and recording devices to prove it. He told the PI Marilyn was dead early in the evening and was all shook up for a hardened mafia man. The studio are entirely to blame. And couldn't lose Marilyn to her own production company.
smart enough to produce two great films, and go toe-to-toe with Bette Davis and Sir Laurence Olivier. Thanks for commenting :)
To this day, Marilyn is still the world's biggest Star! Thank you for the share, Hamish.
She’s definitely the greatest movie star that ever lived. Thank you for watching!
Stanley Giffords granddaughter, was interviewed by an English newspaper. And she said if her grandfather, had acknowledged Marilyn as his daughter. And welcomed her into his family, things could have turned out very different for Marilyn. She didn't know what it was like, to be a part of a family.
She would have approached life very differently. If you look at the "Comedians in Cars with Coffee" episode with Melissa Villaseñor, Jerry comments on how her outlook on her life and career is informed by coming from a loving supportive home.
Yes. Two professionals took her into their families:. 1) Lee Strassberg and 2) her psychiatrist, Dr Greenberg.
Marilyn married for strange reasons. Especially Arthur Miller, it appears she was attempting to insinuate herself amongst intellectuals in literature in order to be taken seriously as an actress and get better roles. Marsha Mason married Neal Simon and got better roles as an actress. A common actress tactic.
Possibly why the marriages didn’t last. I wish she had had someone who really truly loved her
@@HamishDownie Her very first Husband hadst indeed appeared unto rather love Norma Jeane Ji.
I feel like she'd be a banger in the 60s. I feel like the fashion shift would've made her excited and she would've been a walking legend among new 60s stars.
I totally agree.She already studied the method at the Actor’s Studio with Jane Fonda, so she may have worked with her
@@HamishDownie Thank you for this topic!! I think a more refreshing and nuanced look at Marilyn Monroe's life is quite a welcome in pop culture climate.
I was definitely inspired by my anger at the NC-17 rated biopic coming out and felt that she needed defending. I’m also surprised by the way many people never look past the “beauty icon” and see the great actress that she was. She could be surrounded by some of the biggest stars of the golden age, and she would still pull focus. I really think she could do anything
@@HamishDownie oh yes i totally understand. Again, thank you!
She was already wearing all that fabulous pucci! 60’s Marilyn is everything! We really missed out on an era.
Thank you for your thoughtful and loving analysis of Marilyn's potential career.
Thank you so much for watching! What was the project that you were the most interested in? For me it’s the Jean Harlow biopic
She was a beautiful sensitive creature who found it difficult to deal with upsets, let downs and abuse. If it wasn’t for her traumatic childhood and her broken heart she would have survived. Marilyn was extremely damaged by human beings treating her like trash. She was a beautiful person both inside and out. Humans are cruel and she knew this and their cruelty toward her damaged her fragile nature greatly. She is my mentor and I love her dearly. ❤️❤️💕💕💕
Thank you for sharing your beautiful message. I agree with you
What makes her famous is that she challenge life. The rejections that she endured from her own father she challenge it instead of feeling down she chooses positive thoughts in following her desires to work in the public eyes like acting it makes her secured feeling loved by the people it helps her overcoming some emptiness she suffered from abandonment in her childhood. She long for a Fathers love which she never have and that’s why psychologically and emotionally it affect her tremendously.
Yes, I think if that side of her family had accepted her, she may not have had the same desire to succeed and likely would have approached acting differently
Arthur Miller was her father figure. He abandoned her totally. Awful man.
She was the real deal she had beauty and she was very smart . wish to God she had not left us so soon . Their was a hell of a lot more to her then a sex symbol .
Totally agree with you. Thank you for commenting
I am surprised she did not adopt considering she was in foster care. I love her it makes me sad when I think what happened 😥
It's truly tragic what happened to her, and some of the greatest stars of the Golden Age. It's what inspired me to do the original research for this series (before I even knew it would be a youtube series).
Perhaps had she lived, she may have adopted children in foster care such as herself to give them a better life. I think that's what makes her death so tragic, all the good she would have done in the world, snuffed out in an instant.
I'm not surprising she didn't adopt as she aborted many times.
Others have said that she was going through the process of adopting a child from Mexico
She had issues with all her pregnancie, misscarriages and ectopic progrnancy, I believe because she was exposed to lots of chemicals when she worked at the plant when she was young, spraying parachutes and the like. She badly wanted children.
Interesting theory. I’m sure there’s a lot of truth in that
Hamish, thank you for this beautiful video. It's bittersweet to imagine what might have been. I love this video. ♥
She could have achieved so much more (not to discredit what she did achieve). Thank you for watching!
Great video! I'm a huge Marilyn fan, and I can see some of the directions you speculate her life following. However, I really believe she would have become a BIG Civil Rights advocate of the 60's. She was a Democrat, very liberal, and socially progressive. She used her privilege to help Ella Fitzgerald get booked at the notoriously racist Mocambo nightclub, was very close friends with Sammy Davis Jr., and supposedly had the "hots" for Harry Belafonte ("Marilyn's Men" by Jane Ellen Wayne, p. 58). She could have easily attended Martin Luther King Jr's speech at the Washington DC mall in 1963, like other White Hollywood celebs (e.g., James Garner). And because she was very open-minded and befriended several gay actors (e.g., Montgomery Cliff), she probably would have become a Gay Rights advocate in the 70's and 80's. Imagine her at a Gay Pride Parade... 🤣😂More than anything, hopefully she would have been happy!!!
I hope that she would have been happy too. I'm sure she would have continued to be a part of the civil rights movement. I imagine she would have followed her friend Eartha Kitt's lead. I imagine that Eartha's blacklisting would not have lasted 10 years had Marilyn been alive. And yes, I imagine that she would have been a friend to the LGBT just as Elizabeth Taylor was. I still feel that she would have joined forces with Jennifer Jones and brought awareness to Mental Illness. MM was truly a one-of-a-kind star.
@@HamishDownie Yes Marilyn was a one-of-a-kind Star.
Just look at all the actresses who’ve tried and failed to imitate her, as if she were just a hairstyle and makeup trick
No. Marilyn Monroe Ji rather had actually "very few friends". Marilyn Monroe Ji were known rather unto be inwardly homophobic. I do rather rate the Conservatism of Marilyn Monroe Ji. I rather do detest radicalism.
Marilyn Monroe Ji indeed hath rather lasted this Long due unto Class - her Conservatism. That is rather Classic. Without that attitude, Marilyn Monroe Ji wouldst hath rather disappeared along with the rest - wouldst hath faded out. The Sex Appeal of Marilyn Monroe Ji thus is due unto her rather Man Loving attitude. The such femininity. Rather.
You did such a respectful and well researched video 🤍 thank you! I’d like to believe she would have done something like Angelina and maybe lean into more philanthropic endeavours
I imagine that you are right
From what I have seen in documentaries Marilyn's involvement with the Kennedys lead to her death/murder..She may have been able to rise above her other issues and lived a long life if she had someone close to her that could have advised her, helped her.
Yes, undoubtably. I agree that if she had the right support around her, she wouldn't have gone near the Kennedy boys.
She was 36 yrs old. She didn't need anybody to tell her to stay away from the kennedys
She wasn't retarded !!!!!
I mean that in the sense that all big stars are like corporations, and often need good people around them, the same way successful businesses do. I’ve certainly had times in my life where I wished I had a PA or two.
She would still be alive right now if she would not have threatened to expose the presidents plans to assassinate Castro
A broken heart will make a woman do crazy things. Let that be a lesson to the other women who want to go crazy because they have a broken heart. It could very well get you killed. Don’t go around spreading peoples business because you have a broken heart.
If she had lived I think she would have married Joe DiMaggio again. They were very close before she died. He helped her through the hospital phase, see the RUclips video on Marilyn and DiMaggio.
He did visit her grave to lay flowers until he passed away
She spoke in her natural voice in river of no return
Indeed you are right. It was nice to see her with different hair
@@HamishDownie especially the Misfit's
She had plenty of different hairstyles and didn't really go for the 1950s curly short look in the 60s,her hair was way more white and looked straighter
Imagine her in a 60s beehive hairdo! Wild!
It was one of her best acting & her character was quite different from what she usually played.
I believed Marilyn could have been like Farrah Fawcett and made more deep dramatic roles to really showcase the depths of her acting skills. Sometimes, an actor is limited by the studio and production company and certain type of roles aren't available...
Yes, I agree with you. I hope she might have restarted her production company and created great roles for herself
The freedom of the 60s cinema might finally have gotten her the serious attention she deserved
I definitely think so. What would you like to have seen her in?
I agree her movies should be noticed Marilyn should never have been known as a sex symbol it was not what she wanted
@@AleiahPrice you got it
No. I do rather not suppose that Marilyn Monroe Ji minded being a Sex Symbol whatsoever particularly. Marilyn Monroe Ji herself rather promoted such an image. After all Marilyn Monroe Ji rather loved the Men. Marilyn Monroe Ji were rather akin unto my being and were All Woman as such. Marilyn Monroe Ji simply desired unto be viewed as rather more than this. As an Actress.
@@kiranjitKaur61 I think Marilyn was just Marilyn.
If I'm not mistaken, she should have worked in these films "A Streetcar named Desire" "Irma la Douce" "Kiss Me, Stupid" "What a Way to Go!".
If Marilyn had lived, she would have told Joyce Carol Oates, to Andrew Dominik and other countless people: "Now you can stop taking advantage of my name and image by continually inventing lies! I can answer!"
If Marilyn Monroe had lived, the world would be brighter and more magical.
R.I.P. Sweet and Sexy Angel Marilyn Monroe. (Sorry for my English)
I could only find that Marilyn had accompanied Elia Kazan to the premiere of "A Streetcar Named Desire". Was this supposed to be a remake, or the 1951 film? I think she would have completely outshone Vivian Leigh had she been cast, so perhaps that's why she wasn't. I didn't know about "Kiss me, Stupid" so I'll have to add it to my next video.
I think Marilyn's assessment of the Jean Harlow Biopic's script is pretty telling of how she would have reacted to "Blonde" - she would have hated it.
Thank you for commenting!
@@HamishDownie Yes, for me, the movie "Blonde" is to be forgotten.
Before adding what I said, (in a new video) do some research that can confirm 👍
@@iconslegends5230 I hath rather viewed the new Film 'Blonde'. There art rather some good things regarding the Film.
@@kiranjitKaur61 The only good thing about this film are the make -up artists and costume designers
@@iconslegends5230 No. There is rather more than that unto the goodness of the Film. I do rather appreciate the Pro Life aspect. And the Film didst rather utilise some actual Real locations which Marilyn Monroe Ji didst reside within/visit. This is rather appealing about the Film.
Surely Marilyn would have appeared on Dean Martin's television variety show.
Most definitely. If she’d had a roast, I’d hope that it would be Bette Davis, Eartha Kitt, Tony Curtis, Jake Lemmon, and Jane Russell on the panel. How would you pick?
@@HamishDownie anybody rather than Don Rickles!
@@carlfrano6384 I think he's hilarious, but definitely not right for Marilyn.
FANTASTIC HAMISH ❤
Thank you xoxo
I am thinking Broadway roles like the aging woman in Streetcar Named Desire instead of Vivian Leigh. She would have done te play and then the musical. You did a wonderful job of laying this out. Thank you!❤
Very interesting idea! I’d love to have Shelly Winters as Stella.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting
what a cool concept for a video, really enjoyed watching this thank you
Thank you 🙏 It was really illuminating to research. I’m working on one for James Dean now
Amazing Video! Marylin was special.
You are too kind. Thank you so much. There will never be another star like Marilyn.
Great video, I always wondered this very thing.
Thank you so much, it was so interesting to do the research. I'm working on one for James Dean now.
If Marilyn had lived the world would be a much better place now.
I totally agree with you!
Fascinating take. Great breakdown!
Thank you so much for taking the time out to watch and comment. I love your videos. I'm working on one about James Dean next.
You have a very soothing voice and a nice energy about you. Thank you for the video.
Hope she’s at peace wherever she is (though this new movie blonde is horrendous, besmirching her memory).
Yes, I have no interest in watching this new movie. Thank you for your compliments. I'm working on one for James Dean, but I'm a bit behind schedule, so hopefully I can get it out next week.
Her career was one thing. Her personal life, another. Unfortunately, she took too many chances with individuals with much to lose.
Powerful individuals
Yes, that's what I meant when I said that she had the wrong people around her
Marilyn intended to announce her court case win and starting the shooting of SGTG on the following Monday after her murder. She had no diaries on the Kennedys and wasn't stupid to talk. It's all a deflection of the truth. 20th foxes did it.
She was also in talks to do Irma La Deuce which also eventually went to Shirley MacClaine and would have reunited her with Some Like It Hot Director Billy Wilder and costar Jack Lemon!!!! You were very informative Hamish! I did not know about The Stripper which I saw as a child and wondered why they chose to slap that horrible blond wig on Joanne Woodward.
Yes, Joanne Woodward looked awful. I've noticed with a lot of these (talking about future episodes) that when roles were intended for someone, they usually styled the replacement to look like the person it was intended for. I didn't know about Irma La Deuce. That really puts a spanner in the works about one of my theories. I might have to do a cliched reaction video. Honestly, the comments have been just as interesting for me as the research for the videos themselves.
@@HamishDownie She tried coping Marilyn ..... didn't work. ...
Jayne Mansfield was arguably the best at copying Marilyn, but I think it’s because like James Dean and Marlon Brando, she really made it her own.
She was fantastic in “The Wayward Bus”
Awesome this video is blowing up. You deserve it Hamish, well done!
Thank you so much! I think more people have seen this than my feature film :) The trick is now going to be trying to repeat its success. It’s at least nice to know that people seem to be interested in the things that keep me up at night
She would have been a mother either through birth or adoption.
She was apparently looking into adoption towards the end of her life. Thank you for commenting and watching
Movies from the 1960s that could have broken the sexpot/dumb roles: big city, the rain people, come drink with me, Rachel Rachel and loving couples
Unfortunately, I don't know any of those films. Do you mean: www.criterion.com/films/28448-the-big-city ?
In the second part, I mentioned how a filmmaker friend of mine thought she would have been great for a John Cassavetes film. The possibilities were really endless. Also, had she gone back into producing for herself, she may have discovered hidden gems that had been overlooked.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting. It really means a lot for a small channel like mine.
Great concept! Love the idea and love Marilyn! And you are so soft spoken and well versed. Enjoyed this so much. Thank you and Happy Holidays! Will be back to drop some ideas at some point ;)
Happy Holidays to you too! Thank you for watching and commenting. I'm looking forward to hearing your suggestions
MM: "I hope they don't do that to me when I'm gone". Fast forward to the early 2020s and "Blonde". Yes, Marilyn: they DID do that to you. Fortunately, the film was a bust both with critics and audiences; after an initial bit of hype, it quickly vanished.
I was initially interested because the stills looked incredible, but hearing that it was R-rated, I quickly lost interest. BLONDE was a travesty
There art some rather great aspects about the Film: 'Blonde'.
Love your video and your calming voice
Thank you for watching and your kind words
(Reposting my comment to word it better)
I actually am writing a big timeline featuring a surviving Marilyn too! Watching this for ideas, haha. I decide to explore the idea of her potentially remarrying Joe (not sure if their second marriage would last or not though) and finally having a child since she did want to have a family (since I roll random choice generator for child births of alternate people in my timelines, she has a son). I also figure having a kid would've alleviated her depression perhaps a little or even considerably. Debating whether or not he would grow up to be an Actor, Director or even avoid the Hollywood life entirely.
Sounds interesting. Is it going to be a book?
@@HamishDownie No, it's not gonna be a book
it sounds interesting nonetheless
@@diamondinthesky4771 Marilyn would've had a daughter. A doll of her own that loved her and she her.
perhaps like her friend Eartha Kitt
No success would make her whole. Her childhood was very difficult.
Yes, I imagine that if she had a happy childhood she would have had a very different life. She may not have been an actress at all
@@HamishDownie She was discovered minding her business as a Rosie the Riveter in an airplane manufacturer when a photographer happened upon her. She was on the path to normalcy when fate stepped in. With her husband overseas in the war effort, she had no guidance to stay that course. She began marching to the actress and studio drum and was good at it. She looked to please whatever wind came along and then was not satisfied with her success as a comedian, in which she shone. No. She wanted to become a SERIOUS actress, and was good in Bus Stop, but then embarked on marrying that which she aspired, a serious playright. Her personal insecurities dogged her and the men she loved didn't satisfy her. She kept searching for a thing she couldn't put her finger on, something that alluded her from a very young age, love and care.
very well put
I'm 77 & saw most or all of her films, in theaters, when they were new! As a 'sex symbol', she was the ultimate
in 1950's sexuality, but at age 36 (especially during that period), she may have been nearing the end of her time,
at the top! Even her last, unfinished film, "Something's Got to Give", portrayed her as a long time married woman,
with two children! Had she lived, she would have eventually had to adapt to middle aged roles or quit acting! R.I.P.!
I only just watched “Something’s gotta give” recently. It’s very of its time. I think the film shows that she was preparing to pivot to different roles in the 60s. RIP
She doesn’t want to be known as a sex symbol. Let’s nip that in the bud.
No she would have had more successes in films in mid 1960s and early seventies and maybe could have had a kid like she always wanted
@@AleiahPriceNo. Marilyn Monroe Ji couldst not carry a child unto Full Term and apparently came unto know this and accepted the fact. Rather.
Marilyn Monroe Ji couldst not carry a child unto Full Term and apparently came unto know this and accepted the fact. Rather.
Amazing doc about marilyln .
I really think she would be respect, be now , be loved.
And Not be a Sex bomb.
I believe she was sensitieve woman.
She have to fight to be notice.
By the way, i loved the background music.
Wil you please tel me the name of the song ? 🙏
Greetings from 🇧🇪
Greetings from 🇯🇵, thank you for the kind words. Yes, I hope too that she would have been more respected today.
It’s stock music from Pond5: www.pond5.com/royalty-free-music/item/84085044-inspirational-calm-and-peaceful-piano-power-inspiration
I always thought about what if MM lived? I think she wouldn't of quit acting. She would of continued acting in films. For her love life would of continued into her old age. I don't think she would of remarried Joe D. even though there were rumors that they were going to remarry. I just saw an actress in a Winston Church film, whereas his was wife was old. I looked at the aged actress and thought wow that is what MM would of looked like in her 70's. A life taken to soon, but never to be forgotton. Who knows, she may of died of a broken heart too.
I agree. She went to the actor’s studio, so she was serious about acting. Therefore, I can’t believe that she would have given up acting.I’d be interested in seeing that documentary, do you know the name of it? Thank you for sharing your thoughts
She'd be old and wrinkled like the rest of us.
I think that was what Shelly Winters meant when she said she wished they could have grown old and fat together. I think it could have been very liberating for MM, and she could have focused on just being an actress. Kind of like how Diana Dors managed her later career, as I mentioned in the video.
I always thought she could have played Mrs. Robinson in The Graduate
Yes, I can definitely see that for her. Using her natural voice, for sure. Sue Lyon was considered to play the daughter. I’d imagine that if MM played Mrs. Robinson, Sue would have played the daughter
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Monroe had 102 Degree fever when she filmed Something's Got to Give! The studio should've put it on hold! Her Doctor ordered them to put her on sick leave!
That explains a lot. Still, I think in those clips where she messes up her lines, she still has monumental star power and lights up the screen like no other.
She had sinusitis.
From a little girl that came from nothing, she achieved enormous success and great beauty. I wish so much she could have brought all that achievement to her personal life. Instead she was subdued by men in power, and pills.
It really was a tragic loss
Which is no fun at all. I know I don't feel like doing much of anything when I have it
I could see her playing Blanche or Rose in the Golden Girls
Rose definitely. There was a real sweetness to MM's character's so I think she would have been perfect in that role. Thank you for commenting :)
Did you see What A Way To Go??? The character was NOT a gold digger, quite the opposite. Good Bye Charlie was done with Debbie Reynolds and Tony Curtis, it was going to be Marilyn and Marlon Brando. Just think of that! And imagine Marilyn in The Graduate...
I have to admit that I was going off the IMDB description/trailer and not from having watched the film itself. While I do enjoy Shirley MacLaine in her later work, I never really warmed to her early work. I'll have to rectify that this coming year. I didn't realise that Marilyn was supposed to work with Marlon Brando. I know Tony Curtis admitted to struggling with being less important than her in "Some Like It Hot" during the shoot. I wonder how Brando might have handled that. Marilyn outshone the likes of Bette Davis, so I wonder how that would have gone down. Would have been fireworks one way or the other.
Marilyn would have relished and taken on more complex roles…..Marilyn….Would have understood “Maturing”…..And would have been incredible in so many “Mature” roles….
It could have been glorious
If she had lived she would have left Hollywood and married a regular man and started a family
It's a pity that she wasn't able to have a happy life, considering she brought so much happiness to others
Hmmm. A little hard to start a family at 36. High risk pregnancy at 36.
Love this video❤
Thank you so much for watching xoxo
@@HamishDownie ur welcome. Very educational and fun to fantasize ! I think she would do a Vegas residency then maybe have her own sitcom and maybe do a guest appearance on Dynasty !
Yes, she was very talented at comedy, so I can definitely see her doing a sitcom! After all, Shelly Winters famously did Roseanne. What would The Marilyn Monroe Show be like? It’s interesting to think about
I enjoyed your vlog. I listened to someone else's and it was awful, so negative, where she got fat dyed her hair dark brown disappeared and supposedly contacted Joe DiMaggio and wanted him to find her a child to adopt. And then died at 62 in 1988 of natural causes... Just a horrible life. I believe she would have eventually got the correct help and meds to help her bi polar disorder. And married again and settled down eventually like a lot of stars do. Just lived a good life with someone very special. When she turned 40 she could still played comedy and musicals, she was great at that. You just go with the flow as you age, your wiser and not as insecure as much as you are when your young. She would have been fine! God Rest her soul, she did her best while she was here. 😢
Thank you very much. I do not understand people who just see Marilyn as a beauty and nothing else.
There is not any evidence of a bipolar disorder within the late Marilyn Monroe Ji. Rather.
This weeks guest star on "the love boat"......
Definitely, they had everyone!
I think she would have been great in Vegas. She truly had a way with a song and was a good dancer. As for movies, there were plenty of sex comedies in the early and mid 60s that would have suited her well. Not so sure how she would have fared in the hippie era of the late 60s and early 70s. Others like Elizabeth Taylor and Kim Novak lost their box office appeal then.
I just watched “Ladies of the Chorus” and I could definitely see her doing some of those numbers in a possible Vegas show. “Diamonds are a Girls Best Friend” would definitely be the closer.
I wonder if she would have gone behind the scenes as a producer. She may have made the right roles for herself.
A better question would be “what if Marilyn had never met the Kennedy’s?” Her affiliation with them was her death warrant. She knew too much from the brothers careless pillow talk.
If MM had never gotten involved with the brothers, I believe she would have gone back with Joe DiMaggio. She would have grown into more mature parts and maybe even directing. She would have been fulfilled I’m sure.
I agree with you. While I didn’t name them, that’s what I meant by not getting involved with the wrong people. I didn’t mention them because I wanted to avoid conspiracies, even if it is the most likely explanation given her plans for the future, both personally and professionally, and the strangeness surrounding her death. The world was truly robbed by her passing
@@HamishDownie - Thank you. It’s been over 60 years since her death, I feel it’s not unreasonable to say her affiliation with the K’s brought about her death. It’s accepted in more circles than not, that she was murdered, and they were involved.
Good video.
@@mchapman132 I am an independent and vote blue typically but oh my god my jaw hit the floor when I read about the Kennedys skeletons - namely Rosemary Kennedy. The way she was treated was sickening.
@@beckyweiss6072 - Most of our Presidents have been less than respectable, both Republican and Democrat. FDR was a terrible womanizer, tried very hard to become a dictator, being elected 4 times. Truman had a filthy, filthy mouth. IKE, seemed OK, the Kennedy’s were vile, LBJ was the most corrupt and nasty, crooked, womanizer. Nixon was nuts, a strong president, but power crazed. Ford, seemed OK, as was Carter, weak presidents, but morally sound. Then there’s the Clintons…….crooked as a dogs hind leg. Reagan was a strong president, morally decent. The Bushes were wealthy and like the Kennedy’s…got away with murder. Obama was the first president who put America last. Trump was a strong president, helped the economy, but a morally weak, womanizer like his predecessors.
What aggravates me is how the media represents the president they like. In the past, the Oval Office was respected, no dirt revealed. Today, every little detail is revealed and critiqued. In the past the President was protected from gossip, nothing bad was revealed.
None of the former presidents would survive the scrutiny they receive today.
Even going back to the beginning…..Washington, Jefferson etc. would not survive under the microscope of today.
I’m annoyed the Kennedy’s were revered as “American Royalty”……..good Catholics…….Camelot……it was all bull$hit.
@@mchapman132 No. I am rather sure that most people do not falsely believe the passing of Marilyn Monroe Ji unto hath been a Murder.
She’s be a 100
Not far off. She was born in 1926
She's turning 97 in a few months
Maybe I should make something for her birthday?
@@HamishDownie yes do it
I ended up reacting to her top rated films on IMDB. I had planned something else, but it fell through unexpectedly
Your lamentatious sorrowful tone may just be as effective as the excellent script of this video.....:) Thank you for the "what if", it is not an easy question to ask, let alone to propose answers to.....
Thank you. These are the kinds of questions that keep me up at night. I’m glad people are enjoying them. I made this specifically because of my anger with BLONDE
@@HamishDownie An excellent response to a total piece of trash. 'Anger' is a good word in this case. Blonde was quite bad indeed......
@@Tee13-o8t I felt the same to a lesser degree about the "Judy" movie, but I really respected Renee's performance. But, I don't think that anyone associated with the production of BLONDE had any respect for Marilyn as a woman or an actress or as a star with an amazing legacy of classic films
@@HamishDownie Agreed. It was a humiliation fest. Also, the actress was not suitable, she may have somehow looked like Marilyn, but something in her eyes was totally off. Resemblance is not all, there is something about the soul of a character that wasn't there. If there was such abuse and cheapening of her as a woman built into being an actress then why showcase it as though it was a Marilyn syndrome? They all slept around, but probably with some discretion, not the way the film did it. Judy was different altogether.... I agree about Renée's performance and the story being better told altogether without panhandling on the pathos of her life.
I definitely don’t want to watch the film, and I’m glad the actress didn’t win. I thought she gave a good performance in the Bladerunner sequel, which is probably what got her the part. Michelle Williams doesn’t look much like MM, but I think she did a better job of capturing her spirit
You’re a sweet man- thanks for your observations, it would had been wonderful if she had lived❤️
Thank you so much for your kind comments. It really would have been wonderful
Some interesting viewpoints though I don't agree with the comment about the alleged link to Joan Crawford. So many people tried to make money by spreading false rumours about Marilyn's sex life after she passed. John Miner's "lost tapes" have been disproven and sold scurrilous stories to make money, and he shared this rumour too (amongst others).
It's nice to know the origin of that story. Seems like a lot of the rumours that were in "Hollywood Babylon". I honestly never believed it, I just thought it was a fun connection. As Bette Davis said on the Dick Cavett show, she really only hung out with the people at Warners, and Joan Crawford was just at MGM and Warners as well. Their paths likely never crossed.
She probably would have had a good career if she had had intensive psychiatric treatment…..but not by Greenson. She had potential, but was always late to film shoots and got involved with men that didn’t really look after her.
I'm sure that it became more and more difficult to put on the Marilyn Monroe persona, hence the lateness. Her acting was always very meta, she was Norma Jean, playing Marilyn Monroe, playing a character. Which sounds exhausting to me
I think she would have done roles similar to those Diana Dors. With that said, Diana got to show what she could do in Yield to the Night. I think Marilyn should have done some work in British films. I'd love to have seen her in a Yield to the Night type role, Hollywood just wouldn't let her do that kind of thing.
Anna Cale discussed just that in our upcoming interview (coming out Wednesday). It’s interesting that Diana would have loved to have Marilyn’s career, and Marilyn (and Jayne) would have loved to have done something like “Yield to the Night”
@@HamishDownie A Night To Remember 1958 would've been the perfect dramatic movie for her imagine her as Dorothy Gibson, unsinkable Molly Brown, John Jacob Astor's 19 year old pregnant wife etc
she would've been in more dramatic movies in the late 60s and into the 70s
I think Marilyn Monroe would disappear find a wonderful man get married and have a family she always wanted she will leave Hollywood behind I can see her living a right old age with her husband in a long happy marriage
She would have every right to do so. She left behind an incredible legacy of work. I wish she could have been happy.
Marilyn would have been a great Mrs. Robinson in The Graduate.
Yes, I think that would have been an interesting role for her. I talked a bit about what that might mean for the casting of the film in Part 2
The crazy thing is there are pictures of her now on telegram! They killed her character but hid her away! The pics of her you can see the pic resembles her in her old age!
You're the third person to tell me a version of this theory. Until making this video, I never knew that there were MM is alive conspiracies like Elvis. Whatever the truth may be, I hope she is happy. Please just think of my video as what she might have done had her career continued. Thanks for watching :)
No. Marilyn Monroe Ji passed away.
She would have been PERFECT as Mrs. Robinson in The Graduate! She was just about the right age to portray the character and was a helluva lot sexier than Anne Bancroft!
I agree. Bancroft was only 5 years older than Hoffman at the time. I think had MM done The Graduate, then Sue Lyon would have played the daughter. They apparently considered Harrison Ford for the Hoffman role, which might have been interesting.
They originally wanted Doris Day for the part of Mrs. Robinson, but Miss Day turned down the role because she felt the character was too unsavory. Too bad! She would have been excellent and it would have done wonders for her career.
@@carlfrano6384 Robert Redford was set to costar as Benjamin Braddock, however!
14 years difference between Day and Redford.
@@carlfrano6384 I think Doris Day was too protective of her image to take a risk like this.
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If she has lived,she would've been thrown away by Hollywood by the time of 1975 or earlier. Jane Russell stopped acting at 40 because she was "too old" and wouldn't look good for a sex symbol for others, they would've found another Marilyn Monroe and the cycle continues
Marilyn would've focused on Marilyn Monroe Productions instead,and be a director or playwright.
I feel like she would've adopted instead of having a child because it was almost impossible for her to have a child,it would've been a boy and girl,
Rest in peace Marilyn,if you haven't met the Kennedy's,you would've still been here,she knew too much! 🕊️❤️
She may have had the freedom to pivot away from “sexy” roles, the way Diana Dors did in her later career.
I completely agree with you that she would have likely adopted and focused more on MM Productions. Thank you so much for watching and commenting x
Marilyn Monroe Ji were not murdered. Rather.
MERCIIi...pour cette rétrospective...elle est toujours belle et attachante...
RESPECTUEUSEMENT.
Thank you so much for your lovely comment!
Brilliant THX
Thank you for watching!
She couldn't keep her pregnancies full term due to endometriosis...
That’s very sad to hear. I believe another commenter said that she was looking at adopting before she passed
@@HamishDownie When she was married to Arthur Miller Marylin became pregnant three times...1956: Marilyn's first known pregnancy ends in a miscarriage.
1957: Marilyn gets pregnant again, but the pregnancy is ectopic, meaning the fertilized egg attaches to the outside of the uterus and cannot survive, per the Mayo Clinic. Marilyn loses the pregnancy again.
1958: Marilyn is pregnant a third time while filming Some Like It Hot, but miscarries in December.It was a boy...
very sad. I wish she could have been happy
Hi, What about Alfred Hitchcok movies?
Hmm, I always think that the Hitchcock Blonde is usually a "cool beauty", but he did use Doris Day. Which one do you think she would have been good for?
@@HamishDownie Rear window with Grace Kelly and Jimmy Stewart or Dial M for murder so many Great ones, Love Hitchcock
In Niagara Marilyn was Amazing as the cheating wife.
I always think of the Hitchcock Blonde as being cold, but you could be right. Maybe the Doris Day role as well?
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She signed a new contract ...to finish her current film .. then." The Stripper " & " What a way to go ". ..Billy Wilder wanted her for " Irma la Douce" that's as far as is known ... Don't think to speculate...... just my opinion..
She was in talks about a number of projects. I think it's fun to speculate, plus, puts the focus on her as actress and producer. But, we're all entitled to our own opinions. Thanks for watching and commenting
Love your voice.
Thank you 🙏
Heath Ledger and Robin Willems please
Heath Ledger is on my to-do list, but I'll have to add Robin Williams for sure. I loved Robin, as most of the world did, so it'll definitely be an emotional one. Thank you for your feedback
@@HamishDownie your welcome
@@thejoker0123 FYI I’ve just written the script for Robin Williams , and I have to admit I got a little teary doing so. It’s going to be a tough one to film.
@@HamishDownie ok and i understand 100%
Thank you. I’m researching Heath Ledger now. He definitely had some interesting projects in the works. Thank you for the suggestions :)
Should of stayed away from the kennedys. She wasn't too smart.!!!!!
I certainly can agree with you about the Kennedys
@@HamishDownie she wanted the kennedys because their powerful . She threatened them that she was going to tell. The other brother Edward killed a woman he was w/& got away w/it. Yrs ago. Robert was 1st, he got tired of her so john took her. Then they got rid of her
@@kellythomas90 Look in to her doctor Dr . Greenson and housekeeper Miss Murray...and you have the killers...she laid off both of them that last day .Why was Murray still in the house that night?She didn't lived in or slept over ones . And was her her son in law their? Why was she doing laundry at 3 in the morning. Why was, called by the housekeeper, the good doctor their, with his medical bag if she was dead? Why did her agent , attending a concert with his wife got notice already at 10.30h pm that MM. was dead. Why was the police called as late as 03.30h in the morning that MM. was dead? Why did the housekeeper lived in a house owned by the doctor? And why did the doctor paid for the trip of the housekeeper a week later to Europe? All questions ended when the coroner wrote suicide on her dead form... only a few days later. The doctor killed her and the housekeeper was in on it...
MM certainly had a lot of plans for the future
❤️⚘️💔Marilyn⚘️❤️
Even the great Bette Davis called Marilyn and Judy's passing a tragedy. It really was a staggering loss to the world.
A remake of Baby Jane with Shelly Winters as Baby Jane torturing the big star Marilyn ( Blanch ).
Interesting! Definitely casting against type for Shelly Winters
@@HamishDownie maybe... but she could be a real wack a doodle.
Did you catch the remake of Jane with the Redgrave sisters? It's pretty low rated, but I haven't seen it. I'm not sure if anyone but Davis and Crawford could have told that story
@@HamishDownie Yes...hated it. Didn't have the star power, or naked cruelty. A bore.
it’s a pity we never got to see them together again in Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte
She didn't.
Hence the title being “what if”
@@HamishDownie Breakdowns and seclusion.
If...
Possibly, but, as I said in the video, I chose to take a Pollyanna look at what might have been in the best case scenario
@@HamishDownie Why? She was always a car crash.
If she had lived she would have gone back to UK and be born as Posie Parker, the outspoken, educated, and mouthy women’s rights campaigner. Decorated by the nobility and recommended for parliament.
She is the revenge of MM.
@@MarciaMatthews That's a very interesting theory! I can see that. She certainly has the hairstyle
Will u ever let her rest in peace it is crazy to think of in a sociological view how obsessing you all act on this poor girl who never became a women and how you act after her tragical death it is CRAZY
[See splendid reply below]This post feels lacking in insight, also delivery. You seem uninterested - which makes me wonder why you bothered? Sorry, it's true.
Hello sir. I watched/listened to your 2020 video playing the piano for seniors and I can see that you are very charismatic. While I may lack your charisma, I was very passionate about making this video. Thank you for watching, I hope you have a nice day
Mr. D: Sir, your gracious reply does you honour. I apologize for lumping you in with the many who downplay her, casually or otherwise - especially makers of the BLONDE movie that trashed her so brutally. I'd love to share with you some of my trove of info about Marilyn.
Steve McQueen
I'll add him to my list. I will have to watch some more of his films first, as I've only seen "The Thomas Crown Affair". Which ones do you recommend?
John and Robert did not let that happen.
Indeed. Thanks for watching
Vrearvideo! Love your kind voice
Thank you so much!
I will give my opinion on this topic if you don’t mind I will say is that if Marliyn Monroe had not died by accident overdose she would have married the 4th time don’t know which husband and then she would have probably ended up her marriages and have as many husbands as Elizabeth Taylor and Judy Garland and I think she might have remarried her x husband Joe and they could have been the next Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton relationship I also believe as years progressed she would have gained her acting career back and would have won an Oscar or nominated she would have also maybe had a kid or unfortunately have miscarriage after miscarriage I do think she would have had ups and downs in her life when it came to her dying by health wise I believe she probably would have died in the early 2000s or late the latest for me is 2020 because based on family genes wise her family lived long lives and maybe if we were lucky in 2023 she might have still been alive with us today but I think she probably would have died in late or early 2000s in my opinion based on genes hope you like my opinion on this topic
She may very well have remarried Joe Dimaggio, he apparently visited her grave every year up until his own death. No doubt if she had lived there would have been a media circus around any relationships she had like Elizabeth Taylor. It is hard to know how long she would have lived. She was only a couple of years younger than my Grandmother, who passed in 2018.
Thank you for watching and for your comments. I hope you enjoy more of my videos.
Hmmm.
If Marilyn was alive now she woyld be very old now .
Indeed! She would have been 98
If she had lived she wouldn’t be a cultural icon today like she is . Today she is arguably the biggest star ever . Dying earlier propelled that . She would be thought of similar as Elizabeth Taylor . A big star that faded ..
Did Elizabeth Taylor’s Star fade? I’m not sure if I agree with that. But, I know what you mean, the element of tragedy is part of her stardom. If she had lived out her natural life, she probably would be thought of on par with Elizabeth Taylor, Marlon Brando, and other great stars who had long careers. However, how many stars, including the tragedies, are we still talking about 60 years after their deaths? Not many. Marilyn could be in a scene with some of the greatest actors of stage or screen, and she would outshine them all.
Well she would be very old
Indeed you are right about that. She'd be just shy of 100
What if Christ had lived
It’s already been done by others. No-one actually believes this, but according to this article, he moved to a small town in northern Japan and became a garlic farmer and fathered three daughters: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingō,_Aomori
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She did. She an angel. Looks just like Kris from Charlie angels with a little extra extra la bloom slash.
A child of hers.
Depends of
The showing word to God
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You’re saying that Cheryl Ladd is Marilyn Monroe’s daughter?
I think Marilyn whould have left Hollywood and her Fame behind to be Norma Jeane again, get married and have a Family. She would have been a great Mother and a wonderful and loveable Grandmother.
You may be right. The one thing I love about everyone’s responses is how we all want her to be happy
No. Marilyn Monroe Ji couldst not carry a child unto Full term.
@@kiranjitKaur61 but maybe she would have adopt some Children to have a Family🥰
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I can't say I've watched her in anything except "A Bug's Life". Do you have any recommendations?
What political changes Marilyn would’ve made: women’s rights, LGBTQ rights, equal pay for women, minorities rights, race equality rights ❤
Totally agree with you. The world really could have been a much nicer place with her in it.
@@HamishDownieUgh! No.. Marilyn Monroe Ji wouldst not hath readily done such controversial things. Marilyn Monroe Ji were known by her clever male Psychiatrist unto be inwardly homophobic - she were nicely classy and grand. Rather.
Ugh! No.. Marilyn Monroe Ji wouldst not hath readily done such controversial things. Marilyn Monroe Ji were known by her clever male Psychiatrist unto be inwardly homophobic - she were nicely Classy and Grand. * Rather. Unlike thee - rather clearly, with thy freakishness shewn by thy freaky and uncool Comment. Marilyn Monroe Ji were a Cool Woman *. That is a Real Woman.
Ugh! No.. Marilyn Monroe Ji wouldst not hath readily done such controversial things. Marilyn Monroe Ji were known by her clever male Psychiatrist unto be inwardly homophobic - she were nicely classy and grand. Rather.
Being gay is simply being light and happy, rather. I am cooly Heterosexual and gay. *
She is back in a different body.
Hmm... Who do you think she is?
@@HamishDownie a healer.
@@HamishDownie 🤍🪽
A wonderful thought
@@HamishDownie 😉
There is only one thing that is human and permanent. The female beauty. Unfortunately, this is also less and less today.
I totally agree with you. My theory is that the rise of gyms and cheap plastic surgery has made everyone look the same. Look at the beauty of someone like Princess Diana. She didn’t have a “perfect” face, but was one of the most beautiful women in the world. Now look at Princess Catherine and Megan Markle - they just look like pretty gym instructors to me, which essentially the same face and hair
@@HamishDownieI do not find that diana unto hath been beautiful. That diana were a radical. Rather.
I do not find that diana unto hath been beautiful. That diana were a radical. Rather.
Niagara and don’t bother to knock are underrated movies that have aged well. No stop! Why stripper?! She didn’t want to be sex objectified put her in feminist movies Marilyn is a feminist
I watched both "Niagara" and "Don't Bother to Knock" when I was younger. They both need a rewatch soon. I talked about "The Stripper" as it was a film she was in talks to do before she died.
Marilyn Monroe Ji were not exactly a feminist. Marilyn Monroe Ji loved the Men and Male attention. As such Marilyn Monroe Ji were rather natural and interesting.
Her career was basically over, she had gained weight and became involved with some of the wrong people.
The same could have been said of Diana Dors, but she maintained a long career
You couldnt be more wrong on the weight issue. She'd lost a lot of weight at the time of SGTG.
She reincarnated in Britney Spears
Definitely some parallels
No. There is not any such thing nor any great or particular resemblance. Rather.
I think she killed herself because she figured that she wouldn't be a sex symbol as a older woman ! .but she's still a sex symbol and even though she's in a better place now ! .that's my opinion ! .❤
Thank you for sharing