Take that metal frame bezel and cut a larger opening for say a 32 inch monitor? Screw side rails in the cabinet with a mounting bracket to hold the monitor?
What I would have loved to see is a larger monitor and a smaller bezel on the play field. They charge way too much for virtual pinball. The markup insane. Can’t wait for the second video!
Never thought I'd be interested it modding pinball games but this was really cool, for someone that already has the parts laying around as you said it could be a good alternative to spending the cash on a more expensive unit. Awesome work!
Looking forward to diving into building a full size Virtual Pinball Cab as soon as it becomes spring and my garage/workshop warms up! Great intro.... Laughed out loud for real.. A REAL LOL
Someone else mentioned the KL25Z microcontroller briefly and I’d like to elaborate: The KL25Z is like $20-30 and has been used as the brains of an open-source pinball simulator controller setup known as Pinscape: os.mbed.com/users/mjr/code/Pinscape_Controller_V2/wiki/Homepage When flashed with Pinscape code, the microcontroller can be used as a USB joystick to handle switch inputs, as well as analog nudging with its built-in accelerometer (no pressing a button to “shake” the machine at a pre-set intensity, just shake it like there’s a real ball inside!) and analog plunger input (the plunger may require some more complicated configuration depending on how the plunger sensor is designed to generate signal, but iirc Pinscape is written to accommodate a variety of sensor setups, so maybe not). Inputs are programmed by default to the most common keys used by simulators, making for quick and easy setup; plug in your buttons and you’re off to the races. Related is an expansion board compatible with Pinscape for force feedback devices (dummy solenoids for authentic vibrations from bumpers/flippers, shaker motors, real chimes, etc): mjrnet.org/pinscape/expansion-board.html It’s an incredible project, and modding this machine seems like an excellent application for it! I’m back to wanting one of these ToyShark units to hack...
that’s cool, though prob would have been cheaper to just cut some mdf & make cabinet form scratch, but I appreciate you didn’t intend to destroy the boards lol. You should look at Pbfx3 cabinet mode too the tables are really nice & you can add static back glasses & dmd too. I haven’t touched VPX for awhile but I think you right click on the dmd to reposition it where you wish
Man, I got some extra PCs and monitors, I’ll just either get a cabinet kit, or build one from scratch, get some pinball cab legs, and forgo buying a toy shark. Seems like yours setup is performing better, and obviously the possibility of expansion with more tables make this very enticing.
Right click on the DMD, and choose show window boarder. You can then resize it to where you want. Right click again and uncheck "show window boarder". Then to have it default in the same position for new tables so you don't have to re-adjust from scratch, take the dmd values from this table and create them in "default" in the registry. So in this case you're playing attack from Mars so after the DMD is where you want it, goto regedit to Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual PinMame\afm_113b (or whichever rom name version you're using). Copy the values for "dmd_height", "dmd_width", "dmd_pos_x" and "dmd_pos_y" (in decimal to make it easy).. Then create those same name REG_DWORD entries in Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual PinMame\default . Now all new tables will have the DMD standard for first time launch then you can tweak from that point if other tables need additional adjustments. It'll automatically save to the registry when you move the DMD around.
If you didn’t burn your house 🏠 down, then your headed in the right direction! At least you already have the toy shock pinball cabinet! Keep up the good work!
Hey Ralph. Love you videos. How did the bezel go from black at 7:51 to stock gray at 7:52? The one thing I can't get past with this cabinet is that oversized bezel. Would a 32 inch monitor fit instead?
Would definitely be curious about the software side of things here; I got the ToyShock for its built-in tables but I'm worried that I might now have gotten bitten by the bug for more...
If my memory is correct you should be able to right click on the dmd and turn on the window border. You can then just resize and move the dmd window to wherever you want. I could be wrong though not next to my vpin at the moment.
Ralph, for the DMD you should be able to right click within the DMD and then (doing this from memory) there is an option to show borders or something like that. Once the borders are there you can size it how you want. Then you can turn the borders off. Give it a shot if that doesn't work I can look on mine and give you exact directions. EDIT: Also there is a Terminator 2 VPX table by G5K which is worlds better than all the others. Search around for it, you won't be disappointed. You can check my channel for some gameplay of it as well. Good job BTW, now you need some solenoids in there for some force feedback :).
Thanks so much man, I really appreciate the tip on the T2 table, This chrome mod has a lot of issues. I’m going to give the DMD a shot this afternoon and I will let you know. Thanks for watching, I’m going to check out your channel as well! 👍🏻
@@RastanPinball I feel so dumb that all I had to do is right click on the backglass and say "show boarder" .. .LOL. Thanks so much man, looks awesome now. I can't seem to find the T2 table you're talking about. Anyplace in particular I should be going to hunt it down? Thanks man!
Retro Ralph Ha ha it’s all good... its not something you would think about, right clicking on it. As far as T2, I think the site it was hosted on is no longer running. Do you have a place I can DM you?
Lookin' pretty decent. In that one shot it looked like you changed the playfield bezel to black, but I guess it was just the lighting. It looked better black.
@@RetroRalph Yah. I'm comfortable working with wood and figuring things out. Looks like I can get a set of actual pinball height legs for it too that way. Not sure if it will look goofy or not. But I might go to a 32" playfield and a smaller bezel.
$400 for the Cab + $200 for a dell optiplex and a descent GPU + $200 for 2 screens + 150 for converter boards and encoders + $50 for unexpected things = $1000 Ish.
Great work Ralph you Always seem to amaze me so I am a loyal fan of your channel you do a very great job With your mods and explaining what you did and how to do it thanks a lot really i appreciate it
I'd be really happy if you made a setup video for these pinball emulators. I've been wanting to buid one, but the software is a real pain for what I can see. Thanks and I hop you an d Kim have a great holiday.
If you’re using the USB encoder you don’t technically need to use anything with visual pinball 8, 9 or 10. You use Windows 10 and it will tell you what button number each connection is and then you map it in visual pinball. I’m going to show how to do this in part 2!
Retro Ralph ok cool, I have a 2 monitor pinball fx3 setup with a 22 inch widescreen as the play field and a 17 inch full screen as the back glass. Do you think that will work in this cab? If so then I’m heading to Walmart this Saturday to hunt this cabinet down. Thanks
If i had to do it over again i'd get the recroommasters one with the presetup controls. You just have to add your pc and screens. www.recroommasters.com/virtual-pinball-machines-s/82.htm. thay had a 24" i don't see now. You can also get a mini cab kit for a little over $300 on ebay. The thing with vpin is once you get started you are going to want 4k, nudge, dmd, etc. Don't make my mistake and keep having to upgrade. You will also need an i5 with at least a gtx 1060 to run 4k on a 40" 4k tv playfield. I spend more tine in my pincab than all the other things in my gameroom put together.
@@RetroRalph Honestly, that is surprising. Most of the discussion in the virtual pinball community usually recommend an i5 and a 970 or 980 video card as the minimum hardware specs for VP. If you are able to achieve respectable results with much lower specs, especially onboard gpu...well, you've got my attention (and respect)!
Love the info. Most likely I would just use your lessons learned and apply it to a diy build with better visuals. Cool that you did this on the low end but it seems like a proof of concept to just building a bigger and better one yourself. Arcade 1ups are cool cause of their unique feel (star Wars) and the artwork. You don't necessarily feel like you are missing out by using a smaller form factor compared to original and the games are emulating at basically 100% with raspberry pi. Pinball arcade you are trying to recreate something real and for that I think you have to have 4k at a minimum and even then you can still argue the physics are off.
Great Video Ralph! You took some bad luck and turned it into a pretty awesome looking product. I like the black painted bezel, it really does look better. Would you recommend buying a Vpin shell or wood kit instead of buying a Toyshark? I kinda think you could get a better shell for $400 - any thoughts?
People keep mentioning the GameRoomSolutions kit, I don't have any experience with it but it looks nice. I believe you can add legs to it now as well. Recroommaters used to have a pretty sweet kit but I don't know if they sell it anymore.
@@RetroRalph Thanks I will check out those sites. I have been considering building a virtual pin for about 3 years now. Your video has shown me that it may not be as difficult as I was thinking, I am definitely going to do a build now. I just need to see about a kit or build the shell myself. Looking forward to more videos!
I too like breaking stuff, like my Legends Ultimate I told you about, hah. Did you ever find out if Atgames can sell me another console for it? Keep up the great vids, Ralph!
Totally badass brother I can do video games all day long virtual pinball I have no idea very cool that you're doing it and making it look really really cool like I said before now you got to fix that bezel LOL and don't forget don't use plexiglass use lexan
Awesome mod bro I'm just about to build my first virtual pinball cabinet myself with stuff lying around the house I've got issues with future pinball script 109 mediation don't know what that is.If anyone knows plz HELP 😢😢
I have to agree with some other people in this comment section. Unless you just like doing tinkering, it ain't worth all the effort and most importantly the capitol to salvage anything. Woulve just took the L when I fried the fucker and moved on with my life.
Not worth it to mod, you can do this with less money. For your control i suggest you the kl25z, you will have thé plunger and the nudge with your buttons. For thé menu, take a look to the pinup system. Thks for the vids. Cheers
why WHY!!!!.... would you BUY another monitor that fit into the POS bezel??.... WHY!!! is this the mentality of the people that buy arcade1up machines??.... holy hell man
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Take that metal frame bezel and cut a larger opening for say a 32 inch monitor? Screw side rails in the cabinet with a mounting bracket to hold the monitor?
Retro Modding Ralphy... Whahaha that intro !! :P
I think it's really cool thing to do buddy ! :D
I was just given one of these from a friend who no longer wanted it and was thinking hard about this. Glad to see a video on modding that table
Ok...you NEED to stop calling it Toy Shark... It's Toy Shock!!!
What I would have loved to see is a larger monitor and a smaller bezel on the play field. They charge way too much for virtual pinball. The markup insane. Can’t wait for the second video!
This is awesome Ralph! Can’t wait for the diy walk through. Thanks for the great videos keep them coming.
Never thought I'd be interested it modding pinball games but this was really cool, for someone that already has the parts laying around as you said it could be a good alternative to spending the cash on a more expensive unit. Awesome work!
Looking forward to diving into building a full size Virtual Pinball Cab as soon as it becomes spring and my garage/workshop warms up! Great intro.... Laughed out loud for real.. A REAL LOL
Thanks bud, I appreciate you always supporting me.
Glad to see you got it working and re-using what you already have is a major plus.. good work
Bezel should be the first mod of this thing
It'd probably be perfect with a 27" screen instead of 24"
Someone else mentioned the KL25Z microcontroller briefly and I’d like to elaborate:
The KL25Z is like $20-30 and has been used as the brains of an open-source pinball simulator controller setup known as Pinscape: os.mbed.com/users/mjr/code/Pinscape_Controller_V2/wiki/Homepage
When flashed with Pinscape code, the microcontroller can be used as a USB joystick to handle switch inputs, as well as analog nudging with its built-in accelerometer (no pressing a button to “shake” the machine at a pre-set intensity, just shake it like there’s a real ball inside!) and analog plunger input (the plunger may require some more complicated configuration depending on how the plunger sensor is designed to generate signal, but iirc Pinscape is written to accommodate a variety of sensor setups, so maybe not).
Inputs are programmed by default to the most common keys used by simulators, making for quick and easy setup; plug in your buttons and you’re off to the races.
Related is an expansion board compatible with Pinscape for force feedback devices (dummy solenoids for authentic vibrations from bumpers/flippers, shaker motors, real chimes, etc): mjrnet.org/pinscape/expansion-board.html
It’s an incredible project, and modding this machine seems like an excellent application for it! I’m back to wanting one of these ToyShark units to hack...
well hey we got a toyshark mod video out of it, so that's pretty cool! IDK if I'm technically minded enough to try it but still pretty cool to see!
the plunger broke on mine. any idea how i can replace it with a button?
That's what I'm talking about brotha glad your paving the way to help us on this build
That’s what I’m here for! 🤘🏻
that’s cool, though prob would have been cheaper to just cut some mdf & make cabinet form scratch, but I appreciate you didn’t intend to destroy the boards lol. You should look at Pbfx3 cabinet mode too the tables are really nice & you can add static back glasses & dmd too. I haven’t touched VPX for awhile but I think you right click on the dmd to reposition it where you wish
Man, I got some extra PCs and monitors, I’ll just either get a cabinet kit, or build one from scratch, get some pinball cab legs, and forgo buying a toy shark. Seems like yours setup is performing better, and obviously the possibility of expansion with more tables make this very enticing.
If you have the ability to build it yourself, this would be a really fun project. The amount of tables out there is incredible! Have fun!
Right click on the DMD, and choose show window boarder. You can then resize it to where you want. Right click again and uncheck "show window boarder". Then to have it default in the same position for new tables so you don't have to re-adjust from scratch, take the dmd values from this table and create them in "default" in the registry. So in this case you're playing attack from Mars so after the DMD is where you want it, goto regedit to Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual PinMame\afm_113b (or whichever rom name version you're using). Copy the values for "dmd_height", "dmd_width", "dmd_pos_x" and "dmd_pos_y" (in decimal to make it easy).. Then create those same name REG_DWORD entries in Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual PinMame\default . Now all new tables will have the DMD standard for first time launch then you can tweak from that point if other tables need additional adjustments. It'll automatically save to the registry when you move the DMD around.
Ralph I can’t wait to see part 2 keep up the good work.
I think you need some Facebook live time for this too!
If you didn’t burn your house 🏠 down, then your headed in the right direction! At least you already have the toy shock pinball cabinet! Keep up the good work!
Hey Ralph. Love you videos. How did the bezel go from black at 7:51 to stock gray at 7:52? The one thing I can't get past with this cabinet is that oversized bezel. Would a 32 inch monitor fit instead?
Would definitely be curious about the software side of things here; I got the ToyShock for its built-in tables but I'm worried that I might now have gotten bitten by the bug for more...
If my memory is correct you should be able to right click on the dmd and turn on the window border. You can then just resize and move the dmd window to wherever you want. I could be wrong though not next to my vpin at the moment.
Really awesome video .. 😄
Edit - Watching it again after 1 year 😅
This is SWEET! This is what I want. Great vid. Thanks for doing it.
AWESOMENESS!!!!! You’re FREAKIN AMAZING!!!!! Keeping my fingers crossed 🤞 you’ll review Pinferno mini 👍
Ralph, for the DMD you should be able to right click within the DMD and then (doing this from memory) there is an option to show borders or something like that. Once the borders are there you can size it how you want. Then you can turn the borders off. Give it a shot if that doesn't work I can look on mine and give you exact directions. EDIT: Also there is a Terminator 2 VPX table by G5K which is worlds better than all the others. Search around for it, you won't be disappointed. You can check my channel for some gameplay of it as well. Good job BTW, now you need some solenoids in there for some force feedback :).
Thanks so much man, I really appreciate the tip on the T2 table, This chrome mod has a lot of issues. I’m going to give the DMD a shot this afternoon and I will let you know. Thanks for watching, I’m going to check out your channel as well! 👍🏻
Retro Ralph if you can’t find it then let me know :)
@@RastanPinball I feel so dumb that all I had to do is right click on the backglass and say "show boarder" .. .LOL. Thanks so much man, looks awesome now. I can't seem to find the T2 table you're talking about. Anyplace in particular I should be going to hunt it down? Thanks man!
Retro Ralph Ha ha it’s all good... its not something you would think about, right clicking on it. As far as T2, I think the site it was hosted on is no longer running. Do you have a place I can DM you?
You can shoot me an email at RetroRalph1980@gmail.com Thanks man!
do you think there would be a enough room to hog that play field out and put a 27 inch monitor in
Dude, now I've got to pick one of these up to mod. Thanks for the video.
Lookin' pretty decent. In that one shot it looked like you changed the playfield bezel to black, but I guess it was just the lighting. It looked better black.
why buy the 1up? just make a full size cabinet with vpx
I have a full size already, this is just a fun project for those that are interested. Not everyone had the room for a full size.
When life gives you Toy Shark...Ralph makes JAWS! #ItsAlive
🤣🤣 Thanks for watching bud!
I think you may have just convinced me to either A. Buy and mod one of these - Or B. Just build my own from scratch. Awesome video. Thank you!
I would build your own if you have the tools and know how. 👍🏻
@@RetroRalph Yah. I'm comfortable working with wood and figuring things out. Looks like I can get a set of actual pinball height legs for it too that way. Not sure if it will look goofy or not. But I might go to a 32" playfield and a smaller bezel.
I'm still learning virtual pinball too & love the mod you did :D
$400 for the Cab + $200 for a dell optiplex and a descent GPU + $200 for 2 screens + 150 for converter boards and encoders + $50 for unexpected things = $1000 Ish.
This looks great, Ralph. Thanks for the video.
Great work Ralph you Always seem to amaze me so I am a loyal fan of your channel you do a very great job With your mods and explaining what you did and how to do it thanks a lot really i appreciate it
I'd be really happy if you made a setup video for these pinball emulators. I've been wanting to buid one, but the software is a real pain for what I can see. Thanks and I hop you an d Kim have a great holiday.
I will try to get something out next week, the software isn’t that bad once you start messing with it.
@@RetroRalph Thanks Ralph. But do take time to enjoy the holidays. RUclips can wait....A bit. :)
Do you use Joy 2 Key app to convert the button presses as keyboard buttons?
If you’re using the USB encoder you don’t technically need to use anything with visual pinball 8, 9 or 10. You use Windows 10 and it will tell you what button number each connection is and then you map it in visual pinball. I’m going to show how to do this in part 2!
Haha that intro tho, but we all knew you WOULD mod it 😋
🤣 I figured as much 😉
Great video... Watching this closely for the tutorial. I want a mini VP cab. You just may be paving the way...
Now just ad a tilt or nudge sensor.
I'm going to make "I don't think i will mod this" part of the video the attract screen on my ALU
LOL 😂
I will add to the LUSS gdrive
Super awesome the only thing I would definitely change is a horrible basil on the bottom screen get rid of that use a bigger monitor
How many frams per second is that - like 14?
What usb encoder are you using for the controls?
Zero latency encoder, just a cheap one from Amazon. I’m using all the stock controls 👍🏻
Retro Ralph ok cool, I have a 2 monitor pinball fx3 setup with a 22 inch widescreen as the play field and a 17 inch full screen as the back glass. Do you think that will work in this cab? If so then I’m heading to Walmart this Saturday to hunt this cabinet down. Thanks
Dude!!!!! Now it's worth buying it?!!!! You are the Man.... Please please do a full tutorial and software setup.... This is huge!!!
No...its not. You can get a much better kit for $500
@@flpennstater305 What kit would you recommend?
If i had to do it over again i'd get the recroommasters one with the presetup controls. You just have to add your pc and screens. www.recroommasters.com/virtual-pinball-machines-s/82.htm. thay had a 24" i don't see now. You can also get a mini cab kit for a little over $300 on ebay. The thing with vpin is once you get started you are going to want 4k, nudge, dmd, etc. Don't make my mistake and keep having to upgrade. You will also need an i5 with at least a gtx 1060 to run 4k on a 40" 4k tv playfield. I spend more tine in my pincab than all the other things in my gameroom put together.
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@@flpennstater305 Thanks, I will check them out
Cool idea....I will wait and see what 2020 holds for new product roll outs...not sure this would be cost effective from the ground ☝ for me! Thx
Did you add memory to the AK1 Mini PC or stay with 4GB? This was without adding gpu, only using onboard graphics?
Using onboard everything, I believe when you click the link it shows the exact configuration. Please let me know if it doesn’t.
@@RetroRalph Honestly, that is surprising. Most of the discussion in the virtual pinball community usually recommend an i5 and a 970 or 980 video card as the minimum hardware specs for VP. If you are able to achieve respectable results with much lower specs, especially onboard gpu...well, you've got my attention (and respect)!
Love the info. Most likely I would just use your lessons learned and apply it to a diy build with better visuals.
Cool that you did this on the low end but it seems like a proof of concept to just building a bigger and better one yourself.
Arcade 1ups are cool cause of their unique feel (star Wars) and the artwork. You don't necessarily feel like you are missing out by using a smaller form factor compared to original and the games are emulating at basically 100% with raspberry pi.
Pinball arcade you are trying to recreate something real and for that I think you have to have 4k at a minimum and even then you can still argue the physics are off.
Can't stop, won't stop!
Can’t wait for part 2. Does the original come with a tilt/nudge detector? Can you add one?
Toy SHARK is back with a vengeance!
Ohhhhh yeahhhhh 🤘🏻
Great Video Ralph! You took some bad luck and turned it into a pretty awesome looking product. I like the black painted bezel, it really does look better. Would you recommend buying a Vpin shell or wood kit instead of buying a Toyshark? I kinda think you could get a better shell for $400 - any thoughts?
People keep mentioning the GameRoomSolutions kit, I don't have any experience with it but it looks nice. I believe you can add legs to it now as well. Recroommaters used to have a pretty sweet kit but I don't know if they sell it anymore.
@@RetroRalph Thanks I will check out those sites. I have been considering building a virtual pin for about 3 years now. Your video has shown me that it may not be as difficult as I was thinking, I am definitely going to do a build now. I just need to see about a kit or build the shell myself. Looking forward to more videos!
Once pinball arcade1up is moddable. I will finally have my visual pinball machine.
I too like breaking stuff, like my Legends Ultimate I told you about, hah. Did you ever find out if Atgames can sell me another console for it? Keep up the great vids, Ralph!
Toy Shark.
You're going to need a bigger screen
Totally badass brother I can do video games all day long virtual pinball I have no idea very cool that you're doing it and making it look really really cool like I said before now you got to fix that bezel LOL and don't forget don't use plexiglass use lexan
Good mod i love this video, i want toy ralphy pinball now where can i order :)
Awesome mod bro I'm just about to build my first virtual pinball cabinet myself with stuff lying around the house I've got issues with future pinball script 109 mediation don't know what that is.If anyone knows plz HELP 😢😢
I didn’t think you would mod this...
Cool Stuff… Keep it coming…!!
Since you're replacing the screen, you should have just gone all the way and used a larger monitor.
So why you keep saying toyshark?
Toy SHARK??
It's an old joke...LOL.
Ralph.... thanks bro.
Disassembled, this thing looks really small... just saying
I don't think you will mod it!
LOL!!!
You should paint that hideous bezel right away!!
You got bit by the Toyshark
So he spent $400 just to strip everything out. Visual pinball is not as easy as just creating an image with all the games all there as pi3.
SHOCK SHOCK SHOCK TOY SHOCK lol Ralphy stop calling it SHARK
DOO DOO DA DOOO DA DOOO
I can’t help myself.
so.....you basically just gutted it, and used a pc and a second monitor? ok
This is the first time you've misspelled the name of the product. "Shark" is spelled S-H-A-R-K. ;)
If you wire it backwards it becomes the ToySHOCK. lol
#YOUARETHEMAN!!!!
I just watched to hear you say Toy Shark.
New rap song! Mod dis by Retro ralph and da boys! 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm impressed! :)
Lol it's "ToYSHoCK" ralphie why do y keep saying shark haha 🦈 congrats on getting married btw
I have to agree with some other people in this comment section. Unless you just like doing tinkering, it ain't worth all the effort and most importantly the capitol to salvage anything. Woulve just took the L when I fried the fucker and moved on with my life.
Not worth it to mod, you can do this with less money. For your control i suggest you the kl25z, you will have thé plunger and the nudge with your buttons. For thé menu, take a look to the pinup system. Thks for the vids. Cheers
why WHY!!!!.... would you BUY another monitor that fit into the POS bezel??.... WHY!!!
is this the mentality of the people that buy arcade1up machines??.... holy hell man
Not bad