@@crossmovement_nz oh nice, I’m going to be teaching PE/Health next year and getting my ATG Level 1 then. Would be cool to get an ATG Auckland gym one day haha
I knocked my SI joint out of place from a front squat lift home wrong a few years back. Have recovered 90 percent but will still incorporate some of these exercises - I did always feel direct abductor and adductor work are super important for maintaining leg ability, and deliberately trying to make your butt and hips explode in one movement at manageable weights is key to staying safe in heavy back squats. Great video.
Hey! I've been following your and ben's stuff for quite some time now, and i've noticed that a lot of the things you guys emphasize for general health and ability in the body can be found in the yogic practice 'angamardana' offered by the isha yoga foundation. Hip mobility, strength into various angles of spinal flexion, upper back strength, hip flexor and glute training- it's all there. I think it would be really awesome if one of you guys took the time to analyze the practice and maybe even gain some new information or even insight into what training for ability could be. Thank you very much for your contribution, cheers!
I've been in the low back pain spiral for about a year after an injury. It wasn't until recently that I realized that it was actually SI joint pain which was being perpetuated by my lack of hip mobility, so thanks for some ideas on improving that
I am in this right now, have been for 2 years. I can do everything in the gym, deadlifts, splitsquats, lunges etc. But the momemt i squat deep even with only 60 pounds, SI-joint is killing me the days after. I'm trying to follow your ideas now, trying to be patient - even though thats kinda tough :D I really hope you are right about this stuff :D
Sadly the correlation to having a big squat in gym culture overrides things like form, control, and tension on the right muscles. Even more sad, are the victims of traumatic back lifting injuries who are now left with a medical care team recommending surgery as the only intervention to get them out of this pain!
I was told a few years ago I had an issue with my SI joint, but it never bothers me on squats only deadlifts and hip hinge movements like bent over row. It’s always rolling. The dice, never know how my backs going to feel by the end of the work out or the next morning I may have to call out of work.
@@Joe-wt6eh I said “likely your disc” not “it definitely is your disc”. Disc problems are far more common than true sacroiliac joint issues for the population.
Wow. I have been injured since I was 20 years old (Im 34) I wont say i have healed complety, had 5 disco injuries. But this man is doing great work people normally would have to look far and wide to get! Exactly this topic, is were I suck. I have trouble in this areal always, and I havent been squarding or deadlifting in 5 years. I feel good, but I miss those big execises :D
Hey man! This is not related to the video but wanted to know your opinion on whether weighted sit-ups are bad for the back. I believe that they are an incredible exercise with good overload potential but a lot of sources state that they damage the lower back in the long run.
Nothing is inherently bad in my opinion! Just make sure you are building your direct low back ability. Sit ups don’t have to be a problem. Anything done to an extreme can become destructive
Hey man, thanks for the videos they’re more than helpful considering most physios direct you towards the standard cat cow, dead bug exercises which is so frustrating. My question is about the pigeon stretch, people talk about lengthening and strengthening outer hip. How do you implement a pigeon stretch under load to lengthen and strengthen outer hip?
Will your system work when you have had fusion surgery, where upon flexibility is restricted due to plates and screws installed as apart of the repair???
In my experience classic squats are often a problem because most people have bad form. But splitsquats, lunges, step ups are good for training the SI joint. Probably because of the split in the thighs and less load on the spine. A good test if the movement is right is glute activation. Using/feeling the glutes is a sign of proper form.
most people don't use theire SI joint correctly. Those exercises should never be done so heavy. I think developing a good feeling and form is key with those exercises. Not the numbers!
I have been educating myself about excersises for the over a decade now, as an amateur. Regardless of that it is really hard for me to follow you in these videos. You go fast, you share a lot of knowledge and use a lot of specific terms, you throw a lot of names of different muscles or joints or whatnot in a short timespan - it is impossible for me to follow or imagine them witout visualizing, and if I do not have these names well remembered I easily lose track of what you are talking about. Your videos - even if of a potentially great value for many - may be very much not digestible for most of people who do not know the names of all these muscles, joints etc. by heart nor do they imagination where are they in the body and how do they work. Again - I do my homework and I will digest what you say regardless of that, but if you want to reach masses you may need to cosnider these aspects, this may slow down you reaching bigger audiences IMHO. Possible solutions: - you may consider throwing in visualizations of muscles you are talking about, - you may want to touch and show them when you talk about them instead of talking about them while doing exercises, unless you would just rather like to brag - you may work on your scripts more to make them more focused on the topics, maybe make your talks more organized into sections, like academic books, you know, keep in mind what you want to deliver with what you are talking about when considering structure, eg. answer to questions in this order: what is the problem and why, why you solution may solve it, how is it going to achieve it and how to implement given solution. Thanks for your videos, unfortunatelly I need to go into your regimem due to my problems I see no other viable solution for haha. Good luck man, you make a wonderful work, help, because I found nobody else promising such a results for a such a bad and chronic problems you had, teach and show to solve and solved urself. Thanks once again.
Backward sled pulls fixed my knee. I can play tennis now 2 hours no knee pain. Also get good shoes with good insoles for better bottom of foot support. I use "Move Game Day" insoles in my tennis shoes. Good support and shock absorption, less foot and knee fatigue. But the sled work is like doing dozens of tiny squats, very safe and effective.
I had sciatica and herniated L4-L5 and L5-S1 discs for a long time. 2 years ago i was bending over, and since then the inside part of my right calf is gone. Can not flex it at all, electric stimulation is not working, not even electricity able to squeeze it. 90% if its mass atrophied now. The outter side of the calf and underneath took over the job to flex my foot and now they are almost the double the size they used to be. Do you think im able to ever get back my strength if i fix my lower back? Ever heard of injury like this?
I've definitely come across people having this sort of inhibition & atrophy by the calf...not to this extent you are describing but still. I would definitely exhaust every component that's in your control first to see what's possible!
I was expecting to see some seated good mornings.. I have a herniated disc in the hip area for a year now and just recently was able to do back squats without pain the day after. In the past months I was building up to that with frontsquats, back extension, Romanian deadlifts etc. still I always felt pain after squating until I started to take my seated gm‘s seriously. Question is, isn’t that the exercise that addresses/ prevents the butwink explicitly?
Seated good morning is directly the hip portion of squat mobility. However I have seen it HURT lots of people with a sensitive back if they didn’t FIRST have a baseline groin mobility of the butterfly close to the ground. Seated GM is one I’ve used LOTS with people. I would just consider it a “level 2” move for back progressions.
Yup that's me with twenty years of right foot weakness. No issues with ankle mobility, while squatting, because the muscle strength is not there. I expect to see some improvement, following this channel, but its never going to be 100%.
Also! Who was gonna tell me that I left 3 minutes of black screen at the end of the video 😂😂😂😂😂 #goodbyealgorithm
Bro is angel sent from above for everyone with overwhelming concerns and thoughts
TL;DW - do weighted butterfly stretch, ATG split squat, and 45-degree hypers
I really dig the channel dead lift broke me off to the point where I am now rebuilding and learning with you and a.t.g
My son needed to hear and see this I will do my best to help him with your help brother much love DC ATG Level 1 coach from Auckland New Zealand 🫡
Hey bro, where abouts is your gym? I’m training ATG in Auckland too
@@jcthegcat no way I am a coach at Jett’s new Lynn and also ludus Magnus in Newton street
@@crossmovement_nz oh nice, I’m going to be teaching PE/Health next year and getting my ATG Level 1 then. Would be cool to get an ATG Auckland gym one day haha
@@jcthegcat keep in touch and yes that would be cool someday
@@crossmovement_nz For sure
I’m more impressed by a perfect squat with no plates than an ugly squat with 3 plates
Absolutely brilliant source of information, definitely my favoutite person for this topic
Brilliant info..
I knocked my SI joint out of place from a front squat lift home wrong a few years back. Have recovered 90 percent but will still incorporate some of these exercises - I did always feel direct abductor and adductor work are super important for maintaining leg ability, and deliberately trying to make your butt and hips explode in one movement at manageable weights is key to staying safe in heavy back squats.
Great video.
You are so awesome ive been stuck for 5 -6 years
Hey! I've been following your and ben's stuff for quite some time now, and i've noticed that a lot of the things you guys emphasize for general health and ability in the body can be found in the yogic practice 'angamardana' offered by the isha yoga foundation. Hip mobility, strength into various angles of spinal flexion, upper back strength, hip flexor and glute training- it's all there. I think it would be really awesome if one of you guys took the time to analyze the practice and maybe even gain some new information or even insight into what training for ability could be. Thank you very much for your contribution, cheers!
Can you post a link to a Angamardana course?
very userful, thank you
Great vid, well said. More active mobility stretches helped me much more than static stretches.
I've been in the low back pain spiral for about a year after an injury. It wasn't until recently that I realized that it was actually SI joint pain which was being perpetuated by my lack of hip mobility, so thanks for some ideas on improving that
How's it going now ?
I’m curious too
I am in this right now, have been for 2 years. I can do everything in the gym, deadlifts, splitsquats, lunges etc. But the momemt i squat deep even with only 60 pounds, SI-joint is killing me the days after. I'm trying to follow your ideas now, trying to be patient - even though thats kinda tough :D I really hope you are right about this stuff :D
Sadly the correlation to having a big squat in gym culture overrides things like form, control, and tension on the right muscles. Even more sad, are the victims of traumatic back lifting injuries who are now left with a medical care team recommending surgery as the only intervention to get them out of this pain!
It should be an expression of how you have sorted out all the unbalanced to unleash your strength not bandaid solutions that set you up for injury.
Brilliant work bro💯💪🏻
So helpful. Thank you!!
thoughts on belt squats?
Good if you like to do them. Not so good if you HAVE to do them over other lifts. Similar to trapbar DL
I was told a few years ago I had an issue with my SI joint, but it never bothers me on squats only deadlifts and hip hinge movements like bent over row. It’s always rolling. The dice, never know how my backs going to feel by the end of the work out or the next morning I may have to call out of work.
If it bothers you on hip hinge but not squats it’s likely your disc not the SI joint. Take a look at his core lower back training on his channel
@LongBoi. Not true. I have alot of trouble on deadlifts and not on squats and I have a normal spine on an mri
@@Joe-wt6eh I said “likely your disc” not “it definitely is your disc”. Disc problems are far more common than true sacroiliac joint issues for the population.
@LongBoi. like I said, not true. Deeper hip flexion usually triggers more pain for SI joint issues
awesome video
Wow. I have been injured since I was 20 years old (Im 34) I wont say i have healed complety, had 5 disco injuries. But this man is doing great work people normally would have to look far and wide to get!
Exactly this topic, is were I suck. I have trouble in this areal always, and I havent been squarding or deadlifting in 5 years. I feel good, but I miss those big execises :D
You must be quite the dancer.
Nice vid bro
This is me, I feel personally attacked 😂
Hey man! This is not related to the video but wanted to know your opinion on whether weighted sit-ups are bad for the back.
I believe that they are an incredible exercise with good overload potential but a lot of sources state that they damage the lower back in the long run.
Nothing is inherently bad in my opinion! Just make sure you are building your direct low back ability. Sit ups don’t have to be a problem. Anything done to an extreme can become destructive
Hey man, thanks for the videos they’re more than helpful considering most physios direct you towards the standard cat cow, dead bug exercises which is so frustrating.
My question is about the pigeon stretch, people talk about lengthening and strengthening outer hip. How do you implement a pigeon stretch under load to lengthen and strengthen outer hip?
Will your system work when you have had fusion surgery, where upon flexibility is restricted due to plates and screws installed as apart of the repair???
In my experience classic squats are often a problem because most people have bad form.
But splitsquats, lunges, step ups are good for training the SI joint. Probably because of the split in the thighs and less load on the spine.
A good test if the movement is right is glute activation. Using/feeling the glutes is a sign of proper form.
Less axial load but far more shearing at the SI joint. Pretty risky if you've got instability there.
most people don't use theire SI joint correctly. Those exercises should never be done so heavy. I think developing a good feeling and form is key with those exercises. Not the numbers!
Is it normal that I feel like i need to pop my SI joint? Feels like they’re compressed
I have been educating myself about excersises for the over a decade now, as an amateur.
Regardless of that it is really hard for me to follow you in these videos.
You go fast, you share a lot of knowledge and use a lot of specific terms, you throw a lot of names of different muscles or joints or whatnot in a short timespan - it is impossible for me to follow or imagine them witout visualizing, and if I do not have these names well remembered I easily lose track of what you are talking about.
Your videos - even if of a potentially great value for many - may be very much not digestible for most of people who do not know the names of all these muscles, joints etc. by heart nor do they imagination where are they in the body and how do they work.
Again - I do my homework and I will digest what you say regardless of that, but if you want to reach masses you may need to cosnider these aspects, this may slow down you reaching bigger audiences IMHO.
Possible solutions:
- you may consider throwing in visualizations of muscles you are talking about,
- you may want to touch and show them when you talk about them instead of talking about them while doing exercises, unless you would just rather like to brag
- you may work on your scripts more to make them more focused on the topics, maybe make your talks more organized into sections, like academic books, you know, keep in mind what you want to deliver with what you are talking about when considering structure, eg. answer to questions in this order: what is the problem and why, why you solution may solve it, how is it going to achieve it and how to implement given solution.
Thanks for your videos, unfortunatelly I need to go into your regimem due to my problems I see no other viable solution for haha.
Good luck man, you make a wonderful work, help, because I found nobody else promising such a results for a such a bad and chronic problems you had, teach and show to solve and solved urself. Thanks once again.
Can you explain what progression for knee pain? You say the atg but how many, how to progress, anythign else? Thanks for help
Backward sled pulls fixed my knee. I can play tennis now 2 hours no knee pain. Also get good shoes with good insoles for better bottom of foot support. I use "Move Game Day" insoles in my tennis shoes. Good support and shock absorption, less foot and knee fatigue. But the sled work is like doing dozens of tiny squats, very safe and effective.
Could it be si joint pain even if you dont feel it on one side but you feel it below more in the s1 area rather than the low back .
I had sciatica and herniated L4-L5 and L5-S1 discs for a long time. 2 years ago i was bending over, and since then the inside part of my right calf is gone. Can not flex it at all, electric stimulation is not working, not even electricity able to squeeze it. 90% if its mass atrophied now. The outter side of the calf and underneath took over the job to flex my foot and now they are almost the double the size they used to be. Do you think im able to ever get back my strength if i fix my lower back? Ever heard of injury like this?
I've definitely come across people having this sort of inhibition & atrophy by the calf...not to this extent you are describing but still. I would definitely exhaust every component that's in your control first to see what's possible!
I personally will always believe tat healing is possible with this sort of stuff.
I was expecting to see some seated good mornings.. I have a herniated disc in the hip area for a year now and just recently was able to do back squats without pain the day after. In the past months I was building up to that with frontsquats, back extension, Romanian deadlifts etc. still I always felt pain after squating until I started to take my seated gm‘s seriously.
Question is, isn’t that the exercise that addresses/ prevents the butwink explicitly?
I would jump to min 26:00 of this video: ruclips.net/video/HRv3qwFWYlY/видео.htmlsi=swGSVic2bmIm-ts2
Seated good morning is directly the hip portion of squat mobility. However I have seen it HURT lots of people with a sensitive back if they didn’t FIRST have a baseline groin mobility of the butterfly close to the ground. Seated GM is one I’ve used LOTS with people. I would just consider it a “level 2” move for back progressions.
Yup that's me with twenty years of right foot weakness. No issues with ankle mobility, while squatting, because the muscle strength is not there. I expect to see some improvement, following this channel, but its never going to be 100%.
Man thanks for all this content !!
Can't thank you enough.
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