I think the mysteries are frustrating a lot of people, because we don't really know if it breaks canon yet or how. Also we don't know who to root for and who to hate, the Sith is presented as sexy and sympathetic, the jedi are presented as arrogant and flawed and we don't know how bad their crimes are - but could have resulted in the deaths of several women and lying to a child. So short answer - I don't know how to feel until the show answers more questions so I don't know if I love it or hate it to be honest. That aside, there are scenes that look cheap, there are scenes that are cringe-worthy and there are scenes that are absolutely badass. So overall it's not terrible to me, just kinda mid but with these budgets and with this franchise things should not be this mid. This episode gets a 6/10 from me, the previous one gets a 7 and episodes 1-4 are all around the 5/10 mark for me. Like not terrible but far from amazing. For balance - I absolutely love what Disney has done with animation but apart from Andor the live action shows dipped in quality after Mando season 2. I have no problem with women or brown people in Star-Wars, I just want better writing and direction.
Love your guys reaction venestras Padawan actually dies later on in comics because of that I believe that her Padawan will be next to die the Padawan that travels with her in this episode I'm talking about 😅
Some people have a theory that sith could be one of the students to sith that trained Palpatine because Palpatines master had a few other students and they were pitted against each other and that theory is believable
Qimir must have been Vernestra's padawan at some point. She is over 100 years old, she doesn't look it, but Qimir's scar was made a focus and its shape looks almost like a strike from a whip. Then we have the intentional showing of Vernestra's lightwhip, just saying.
Yeah I think that’s obvious too I mean I think majority of us figured out in ep 4 from what mae said to him about the master not being able to find her without a tracker that it was going to be him so it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if it turns out she’s his master
Good guess and I think that is good explanation why Ki Adi Mundi appearance in this show makes sense, bacause at the end everyone will think Qmir was just fallen Jedi, padawan of Varnestra from the past while he actually is apprientace of real Sith lord that most likely will be shown in finale.
It’s a shame that the character of Vernestra kinda sucks. They gave her some weird things to say this episode. It felt like we were in another show for a second when that Jedi questioned whether she really wanted to go to Khofar.
The biggest crime against the audience is really the 30 min episode format. I feel like I finally get engaged and then it’s over and we are now 6/8 episodes. A reoccurring D+ thing.
I don’t know what they are doing in the writers room so to speak. The shows are so poorly constructed, the pacing, structure, there’s never any momentum.
I’ve said it nearly every episode but Lee Jung Jae is CARRYING. Qimir is a pretty good addition but Sol has been consistently the best part of practically every episode and in this one he shone even brighter. When ever the focus is on him the show is great.
To me the show is a good example of good story and concepts but bad and/or rushed execution I love a lot in this show but so many good moments are put down by mid dialogue and awkward acting at moments
@@Jerome-u2d the show is written for everyone. new people who are unfamiliar with the high republic era and those who are. i didn't get it but i figured there was some context i was unaware of. turns out yes there was she gets force visions, which the jedi generally dont like. so she's uncomfortable about doing it. plus the fact he's shocked about it means she's doesn't go out in the field anymore almost ever it seems. she's pretty much a full time politician rather than someone who is going out into the galaxy and seeing what is happening. which means that she will be more likely to throw someone like sol under the bus if she thinks it can help the jedi politically especially since there is a major motion against the jedi on the senate floor. so there was a lot of meaning for what on the surface looks like a light joke.
I must say I love Manny Jacinto and his portrayal of Qimir. Guy is soooo good and he has the best lines too. I'm sure Qimir is reaaaally old. He is like 10-15 years older than Osha, but speaks like it was like decades ago. He is the most complex character in this show, I'm kinda sad only one episode is left to put things together...
The unknown planet is meant to be Bal’demnic which was a planet with rocky tropical islands and cortosis deposits from the Darth Plageuis novel where Plageuis and his master used it. It does give off the vibes of Ahch-To though.
In the novel "Star Wars: Darth Plagueis," it begins with a scene where Darth Plagueis and his master, Darth Tenebrous, are in a cavern filled with cortosis, sourrounded by giant rock cliffs, pristine beaches, and overlooking a vast northern sea. This planet is named Bal'demnic. I am 100% sure this is not a coincidence, and I am 99% certain that either Plagueis or Tenebrous will make an appearance in "The Acolyte" towards the end.
@@alexp601Leslye Headland is a big fan of the EU and said that this show was about the Sith, so I would be very surprised if either of them aren’t around during this time period.
I am also happy you found someone who looks like you in this world. But they won't look exactly like you unless you're like Osha/Mae and have an identical twin, ha, ha. Seriously though, I'm pretty sure that the attack on the Death Star in R.o.t.J. had 1 or 2 Asian fighter pilots but, yeah, I don't remember them being shown holding lightsabers. Used to know a wiccan but I doubt she would've been into the space witch chanting of 3rd episode. I've got above average body hair and a girl once jokingly compared me to a Wookie, ha, ha.
He is SO out of place in the episode. He feels like someone's friend who they decided to bring in on the day without any prep, and put him in the costume and gave him lines to say.
@@ThunderBZaperSol, Jekki, and Darth ripped are the only 3 decent characters written in this show. Even then Sol makes stupid decisions and the writing is poor
BLAH BLAH Manny Jacinto tho. That man is hotter than Anakin on Mustafar. Also, Greg, cute furry creatures are NOT “Disney.” They are “Star Wars.” As in Chewie and Wookies, as in the Ewoks, as in every creature besides Jabba the Hutt
I loved the episode. It explores this morbid curiosity I often have about people that hurt me. I want to understand them. I think this showcased that perfectly. And I related to Osha. Because Qimir intentionally leaving his guard down would disarm me too. And I fully understood why Sol wasn't picking up on Mae replacing Osha right away. He was distraught. He was an unbalanced mess. That could have something to do with why the ship was malfunctioning so much. Someone so strong in the force breaking down... causing everything to break down around him.
Agree. These people just yappin without using their damn brains. Actually if you use your brain then everything makes sense. The only thing I don't like about this is that the episodes are too short.
Hahahah THANK YOU. I myself am only a casual fan of Star Wars canon just like Greg, but any casual fan should associate Star Wars from inception til now with cute teddy bear ppl.
I think alot of people forget that Padame dies from a broken heart in ep.3.... people take Starwars far too seriously. It's a show about space wizards.
You're speaking truth. I've noticed that when people brag about SW content it's usually around legends material, A New Hope, & The Empire strikes back. The prequels just started getting love. A lot of that is due to The Clone Wars cartoons. Disney is doing fine, they don't always hit the mark but as a casual, I am satisfied.
I'm LOVING Manny Jacinto's character in everything he does in this show thirst trap and all XD I was surprised by the Jedi being unalived in the last episode but I dont feel emotionally connected to their characters anyway, especially Yord who was super annoying. I actually liked Mae a bit more, Osha seems annoying and on a high horse at times. I need the TRUTH to be revealed !!
Just made sol look stupid, mae was making it obvious from the beginning that she wasn't osha, u'd think he could sense that its a different person, or seeing as he can apparently read minds he would read her mind when he separates from twins and and she comes back acting weird and he even gives her a weird look u would think in that moment hed read her mind or sense her but watevr not the biggest issue with this show
@jacobjackson2787 At the beginning of the episode, Sol was punching tables and throwing hugs around... he is in an absolute spiral of emotions. He'd just watched his entire squad, including his young padawan, get butchered. Then gets his mind twisted by the stranger.... Sol probably could not sense a shit in his own pants at this moment in time.
@@cheeseknees9606 I guess I'll accept that even tho he still was visually suspicious immediately upon her arrival but didn't read her mind but whatever. The bigger problem I had with Sol this episode is he could've told the Jedi about the sith but didn't jus so he could go tell a story he could've told at any point over the last 2 decades.. that's absolutely stupid and only happened so Leslie can say the Jedi didn't know about sith still.
im not sure why either he or osha wearing jeans is such a big deal to them. they live in a faster than light galactic society. osha is a blue collar worker in an illegal job working and maintaining a ship. she wears the cloths an everyday person might, jeans happen to fall into that catagory.
I feel like I'm watching a different show because to me the dialog was very well thought out. Hearing what Qimer was saying about the dark side and losing attachments and then cutting to Sol experience all this I thought was brilliant. I also think you guys missed that Sol obviously knew it was Mae all along and so him saying he would turn himself in and tell the truth was him setting Mae up to see her reaction. He knew she was about to try and stab him which is why he made her fly the ship.
@@jacobjackson2787this exactly 💯. I think Yord and Jekki were more than friends... they were love interests... but oh well, they're dead now so I'll worship their killer.
@@TripleeVFX notice how when u say something they can't refute or put them in a position where their response will prove it doesn't make sense they don't respond and just keep going around saying it's great. Constantly happens wen I'm going back and forth with people and I checkmate em. I don't get people.
I think the biggest issue is the writers have 8 30-minute episodes, and a complicated plot. Mandalorian was 10 30-minute episodes and a straight forward plot. I, for one, am glad Disney let us have something more 'adult'. I wish they gave the people working on it time to tell their story.
I loved this episode. The setup of the mysterious island potentially being the island where tenebrous and plagueis went to mine cortosis is amazing. I think they are setting up to bring them more into canon possibly
This show is terrible! It's written by children and for an audience that's just as gullible and immature. It's created by people who don't understand how people interact with each other on a basic level. The acting is so bad because nobody can genuinely act the way they're written - because the writers and the show runners are complete narcissists and maniacs in real life.
Disney is a family brand and so is SW. There's nothing wrong with that. When it comes to HotD, a background actor sucking on a prosthetic penis isn't edgy or mature. It's juvenile and it looked absolutely terrible.
@@dinahgraham4964 yeah classical American culture where it’s ok for children to see a child getting stabbed and a neck snapped, but behold a child seeing a nipple or some other body part. But I guess as a European I don’t have to understand this logic 🤷🏻♀️ /s
This might be simultaneously my favourite episode and least favourite episode. Every single thing with Osha and the Sith, here for it. The melodrama, the thinly veiled romance, the first performances that feel human, the exploration of the dark side from a sith, Manny's yoked ass traps, everything. Then there's the crap with the furball and Mae that i could really not give a single fuck about. Oh the droid is evil now so its red because thats the factory settings apparently. Sol is the only reason that storyline isnt something i just fast forwarded thru. And then theres the rest of the Jedi. I don't think i care at all. The thing is, i love the IDEAS. I love that the Jedi need to play politics, i love that they need to be imperfect to maintain their version of peace, i love that theyre willing to throw Sol under the bus to maintain everyone else. Jedi are supposed to emotion free, that means they are inherently utilitarian and i love the IDEA of that being the case. But also the way the show goes about doing that and exploring that idea, i couldnt care less about them
That osha stuff bothered me so much, why would she have been good this whole time, watch this guy kill her friends, then he just says a couple of pretty weak lines like "when you lose everything is when u become free" , oh ya that would definitely convince me to think about joining the guy who killed my friends, and jus like that she doesn't kill him when he gives her the chance and is at least thinking of joining him. Absolutely stupid as stupid gets cant believe so many people saying that was good.
@@jacobjackson2787 I think we'll learn that she wasn't all good the entire time. I mean there's a reason she "failed" right? And that she isn't a Jedi anymore. Maybe we'll find out that she wasn't as Jedi inclined as she thought herself which makes it easier for her to join the dark, hell maybe she's even felt the draw of the dark side before and that's why she got booted and why she cut herself off from the force entirely at the start of the show. I'm making assumptions for the show, yes, but with the Osha/Sith scenes in this episode they've earned at least the benefit of the doubt from me, personally.
@@BTBSOUNDS i wasn't saying shes always been good I meant she's been good for the whole show so far, and u jus completely ignored the part where he killed her friends, be honest tho would someone who killed ur friends telling u "when u lose everything is when u become free" would that honestly make u not only spare him but think of joining him? There's no chance. Nothing he said was convincing at all. I'm glad some people enjoyed it at least I guess but it's insanely illogical to me.
@@jacobjackson2787 well you say they're friends. We didn't see a single friendly interaction between them. They're no different than just random people that happened to go to the same uni
@@omincat2703 his scars by his former master looking like whips scars, or curved. the fact shes taking on this case for him personally (she said it). the fact he was a padwan a long time ago and shes over 100 years old.
Unless the episodes are getting cut in half by executives, the writers don’t know how to pace or structure an episode of television. The last three installments have been half episodes.
Since Disney+ went to a commercial subscription option almost all their shows have pacing issues because you have people used to writing fo cable or film trying to figure out where to stick commercial breaks.
@@robertagren9360 yes training but not combat like he went through with like 8 + Jedi. I think the training this way probably makes for better Jedi and more force intuition, but at the level he pulled off is something. I know Luke practices the same way in A New Hope.
Vern getting sick in hyperspace is from the high republic novels. She started experiencing intense force visions during hyperspace. They must not have ever relented and she had to tell other people besides just her Master and her own Apprentice
So Sol knowingly abandoned Osha on a hostile planet, as did Mae? Doesn't he say at the end of the 6th episode that they have to find and save Osha? I think he also implies Osha is with Qimir, not sure how he knows that.
The whole bathing scene when you guys were chanting for a butt cheek moment, I couldn't stop thinking about Andor season 1 with the "one way out" chant and replacing it with "just one butt, just one butt" in my head.
I am legitimately confused by the number of people whose suspension of disbelief apparently ends with "haircut". I never want to see any of these people watch the animated Mulan.
It was such a lame lazy trope to use and makes 0 sense whatsoever even forgetting the haircut. How does mae know how to act like osha, who she’s had one conversation with in 16 years. These are two twins separated on extremely different paths and they look act and sound exactly the same.
🌪️ Lucas film has got a big problem on hand. They are trying to appease a fan base that is literally generations apart. You have fans that are very young all the way to as old as I am in my 50s. Writing stories to cover that complete age range is very hard to do. the best way to go about it is within the universe storylines for one group of the generation and create a separate group of stories for the older generation.
i think i agree. you have fans of the og trilogy, fans of the prequels and even younger people who were introduced to star wars through the sequel trilogy. disney is trying to appease everyone at the same time, but the issue is, each group likes wildly different things about star wars
The dialogue in this episode was actually very good compared to the others. The main problem that this show has had is how the story is split into eight short episodes. The pacing is meant for binging, not watching one episode a week.
I personally am loving this show. I'm typically not a fan of the standard high fantasy side preferring when tropes are done well or broken. Like new hope, love empire, hate everything else till Last Jedi, Rouge One and Andor. This though hits for me. Also I think a good representation of the Jedi at this time can be taken from a quote from Dragon Age Inquisition by Solas on organizations being inherently corrupt. "you think organizations to be inherently corrupt?" "Given enough time, yes. To survive an organization must devote resources to maintain itself. Those resources accumulate until the original purpose, no matter how pure, is lost." "You make the Seekers(Jedi) sound like a mindless beast." "A mindless beast, no matter how mindless, will die and give way to a successor. An organization is eternal. There are always corrupt Men who hoard power for their own gain and there are always honourable men who hoard power to fight them."
That said, what a shame Michael & Greg focused more on the negatives for the majority of the outro. Honestly, that may be what some viewers wish to hear, but not for me. I'd more intrigued to hear Star Wars experts like Michael speak on his elaborate theories about Qimir's past, his potential master, or the larger mysteries surrounding Sol or the Brendok coverup. Perhaps life circumstances of our beloved reactors may have affected this viewing experience. In that case, we give you our blessings. If not, the overwhelming negativity bias may be a product of succumbing to the herd mentality trend of critiquing the show, which would be unfortunate. In either case, I hope ep 7 viewing wouldn't continue this downward cyclic trend. Just my two cents. Cheers.
Aw missed you too! I’m sorry I was a bit more critical than usual - I think I was holding onto some frustrations 😅 I’m sure I’ll be back to my usual positive/speculative self next week!
The weakest part of the show were the sisters. Boring and lack personality. This episode finally goes a bit deep on them, specially Osha being proactive in the plot instead of just reacting to everything. I feel they remain too shallow as characters, we really needed a deeper episode at the beginning for them. Still, Sol and Qimir are carrying the show. And I'm excited to see how this ends.
The Twins play by same actress right? So, it's feel weird or difficult to understand the character. Trying to guess who is who. I thinks they should at least like real twins actors. Instead of someone to act like one.
WAIT. Could that tiny little creature of his be the bigger looking mammals Luke gets milk from in TLJ?? They look extremely familiar and i swear this is Ahch-To.
This episode was “Guilty as sin”-the Star Wars mash-up and I loved it 😂 the Qimir/Osha scenes are amazing. Kinda iffy on the “ooo the droid is evil now because it has red eyes” stuff but overall I like where this *could* be heading. I hope they can fully develop this to its potential
I kinda agree with Ur criticisms on the show. I feel the show has a lot of potential with it's concepts but the execution has been poor and when I compare the show to some of the high republic books in phase 1 I currently started, the high republic books are giving me what I thought the show was gonna deliver, a new era in the jedi and a fresh take on what it means to be one. I like watching the show, I have fun but it's definitely lacking in areas. It doesn't make me think of it as the high point of star wars but it also doesn't make me think, well I'm done with star wars. Mostly I think the show is kinda just mediocre which is a pity as I hope this doesn't discourage star wars from moving past the Skywalker era more
Either too few episodes, or they are not long enough. Feels like they are squeezing too much into too little. There are more interesting things than actual payoffs.
I really dug all the scenes with Qimir but I still think Osha is one of the weakest protagonists I've seen in a long time. She barely has a personality, and is just way too passive.
21:37 Didn't we see Dexter Jettster's buttcrack in Attack of the Clones? I remember his pants drooping down and him using his arms to pull them up when he hugged Obi-Wan. But I don't recall 100% if his buttcrack was shown or not!
This episode was so intriguing yet so frustrating at the same time. I think they actually have a plan for where the franchise is going, but they're not really telling us. There are so many theories about what's really happening. Could Sol be on the dark side? Is Qimir Vernestra's former Padawan? Is he more than what he seems, perhaps Plagueis using Sith alchemy to disguise his true self? Or could Qimir be the first Ren? So many questions and no reveals it's all surface level stuff. I also wish they would make these episodes longer; we need more time for development. This show might have been better as a binge-watch. I think Dave's work is guiding the direction, but they're not giving us the clear, mapped out plan like the MCU.
@@Typecast-Lthen if you just HATE the show and people who are not straight white people SO much and your just SO convinced that the entirety of Star Wars canon is destroyed (it’s not please touch grass) then WHY THE F ARE YOU STILL WATCHING IT
All I’m going to say is Cortosis was mined in the same planet Darth Bane existed, or legend says. Cortorsis is extremely rare and to have a large vein of it…plausible Banes planet
This show has been a complete fumble of an opportunity to delve into Sith Lore and instead we were treated with onscenely uninteresting mysteries regarding a brand new group of force users that the writers are apparently also not interested in exploring. This is fan abuse.
if you notice venestra uses a lightsaber whip and the mark on the back of the sith is a whip slash i think when osha said jedi master she was correct and that it was the green lady that stabbed him in the back with that purple lightsaber whip
While Manny keeps taking his shirt off, the force is female and also camper than ever. Lee Jung-jae is bringing a bigger growth market than the 'Real Star Wars fans' half of which don't want a quality show anyway because they get off on hate watching. And so many 'Real' SW fans have sworn they cancelled their Disney subscriptions so how are they even watching?
I don’t leave comments often, but I have to. There was so much great in this episode. I’m so tired of Star Wars “fans” crapping on everything! It’s supposed to be campy. Always has been.
This show stinks and 85% of normal people agree - and that includes the fans. The only people who think this is good are the ones this show is created for... and it's not normal people or Star Wars fans.
@@cam6406where do you get 85%? Is that review scores? If so that is 85% of a few thousand peoples reviews, but the show is watched by millions so the actual number of people hating or even disliking the show is probably closer to 10 %.
@@garymatthews4323 are you crazy? The review scores are represent the people watching it - maybe a million watch it, maybe, and that means 300 something million in USA and billions worldwide don't... you have no math to back up anything you just said... and absolute math either way to understand the show it's liked by the vast majority of people, including fans.
Honestly if this story was a 2 hour movie we could trim out a lot of the fat and it'd be a lot better. There is a really good story in here but it's bogged down
There are a lot of good things about this show but someone needs to sit the writers down and make them watch Shonda rhimes masterclass on writing for episodic tv. There’s no rhythm or pacing to these episodes, they’re broken up very weirdly, I hate the commercial breaks, they feel so abrupt and completely take me out of the story. If you’re gonna ignore the rules of episodic tv writing then create something better, this has been worse Or just make it a movie! There are different forms and formats for storytelling for a reason
Many people say that ep3 may be one of the worst tv episodes, given such a large budget, in history. I would argue that this episode was worse. And wow, now we all know for a fact that Amandla Stenberg did not test for her characters, because if she did, she would not have been cast.
There’s an interview where Amandla (mae and osha) talks about how the show was literally made for her. She was picked for the role before there was a script. Extremely weird to me. Also the green lady is headlands partner and a huge character in the high republic books. I’m sure they were both picked because they were the best for the role
One thing to remember is that Qimir is a Sith. And of the "Rule of 2"-era, no less. Whatever he says, especially about himself, should be called into question. After all, Darth Bane's "Rule of 2"-Sith didn't survive and manage to further their grand plan until Palpatine successfully completed it by being honest and honorable..
At this point just remove Mae and Osha from the show. Literally no point of their characters even existing. They don’t even know what they want 99% of the time. Great writing 👍
If this was made by Krippke and the team from The Boys, we would've gotten Darth Cheeks and Sith Junk. Q'mir "You..want this,don't you?Goood..I can feeel your thirst..Do it! I am unarmed.Grab my junk.Yank me off..And take your sister's place at my side!! It is unavoidable..Like your sister once was,you are now.Mine."
One thing that has been bothering me about this series is that the episode titles are antonyms, except for three (which I believe episode 8 will pair with). However, the episodes feel rushed, either giving us too much of one perspective or none at all. I think the last two episodes will be the strongest, but the payoff, no matter how great, will be overshadowed by the poor pacing. I strongly believe that if the episodes had been released in pairs and explored Mae's perspective earlier, the reception would have been better. The heavy focus on Osha and Sol has caused the series to suffer. Keep up the great work on the channel!
Mae's character might be off because its a character choice by someone to make Osha and Mae distinct from eachother, which actually works visually i believe their different ppl. Sadly Mae isn't compelling visually or written
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I think the mysteries are frustrating a lot of people, because we don't really know if it breaks canon yet or how. Also we don't know who to root for and who to hate, the Sith is presented as sexy and sympathetic, the jedi are presented as arrogant and flawed and we don't know how bad their crimes are - but could have resulted in the deaths of several women and lying to a child.
So short answer - I don't know how to feel until the show answers more questions so I don't know if I love it or hate it to be honest.
That aside, there are scenes that look cheap, there are scenes that are cringe-worthy and there are scenes that are absolutely badass. So overall it's not terrible to me, just kinda mid but with these budgets and with this franchise things should not be this mid.
This episode gets a 6/10 from me, the previous one gets a 7 and episodes 1-4 are all around the 5/10 mark for me. Like not terrible but far from amazing.
For balance - I absolutely love what Disney has done with animation but apart from Andor the live action shows dipped in quality after Mando season 2. I have no problem with women or brown people in Star-Wars, I just want better writing and direction.
Love your guys reaction venestras Padawan actually dies later on in comics because of that I believe that her Padawan will be next to die the Padawan that travels with her in this episode I'm talking about 😅
@@kevthepoetI get it but I'm still here for it
Some people have a theory that sith could be one of the students to sith that trained Palpatine because Palpatines master had a few other students and they were pitted against each other and that theory is believable
Some people also have a theory that venestra could be old master of sith explaining the WIP shape scar on his back
Qimir must have been Vernestra's padawan at some point. She is over 100 years old, she doesn't look it, but Qimir's scar was made a focus and its shape looks almost like a strike from a whip. Then we have the intentional showing of Vernestra's lightwhip, just saying.
Yeah I think that’s obvious too I mean I think majority of us figured out in ep 4 from what mae said to him about the master not being able to find her without a tracker that it was going to be him so it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if it turns out she’s his master
Yeah, I didn't even put that together until I started seeing comments related to Vernestra. I think you're right.
Good guess and I think that is good explanation why Ki Adi Mundi appearance in this show makes sense, bacause at the end everyone will think Qmir was just fallen Jedi, padawan of Varnestra from the past while he actually is apprientace of real Sith lord that most likely will be shown in finale.
It’s a shame that the character of Vernestra kinda sucks. They gave her some weird things to say this episode. It felt like we were in another show for a second when that Jedi questioned whether she really wanted to go to Khofar.
@@rosiefitzgerald7865 disney cant do subtle
“Thirst trap Sith Lord” ahahaha that was early
The darkest thing Mae has done all season is resetting that droid. She basically killed her sister's pet
The biggest crime against the audience is really the 30 min episode format. I feel like I finally get engaged and then it’s over and we are now 6/8 episodes. A reoccurring D+ thing.
not even just disney plus these days
I don’t know what they are doing in the writers room so to speak. The shows are so poorly constructed, the pacing, structure, there’s never any momentum.
@@hanshotfirst4214Nah, it is. Look at HoTD. Similar budget, 50 min to hour plus episodes.
There's more character development in one episode in Demon Slayer than the whole 6 episodes of the Acolyte.
It SUCKS man. Should've dropped it all at once.
I’ve said it nearly every episode but Lee Jung Jae is CARRYING. Qimir is a pretty good addition but Sol has been consistently the best part of practically every episode and in this one he shone even brighter. When ever the focus is on him the show is great.
Sol and Qimir are really holding this show up rn. even with the subpar dialogue.
Yeah. I think I've liked so much about this show but the dialogue is so undercooked.
Exactly
To me the show is a good example of good story and concepts but bad and/or rushed execution I love a lot in this show but so many good moments are put down by mid dialogue and awkward acting at moments
@@BJackson-kg5drdefinitely needed a rewrite
The Vernestra line about hyperspace is a callback to how she has force visions when she is in hyperspace travel. From one of the High Republic novels.
Maybe fun line for book fans but general audience it just seemed kind of stupid. And that new guy Jedi was annoying af
@@Jerome-u2dnah the general audience didn’t give a fuc, people like you who cherry pick aren’t the general audience
@@Jerome-u2d I thought he was pretty charming. Why do you find him annoying?
And I’d say from what happened to her in the first book she appeared (A Test of Courage)
@@Jerome-u2d the show is written for everyone. new people who are unfamiliar with the high republic era and those who are. i didn't get it but i figured there was some context i was unaware of. turns out yes there was she gets force visions, which the jedi generally dont like. so she's uncomfortable about doing it. plus the fact he's shocked about it means she's doesn't go out in the field anymore almost ever it seems. she's pretty much a full time politician rather than someone who is going out into the galaxy and seeing what is happening. which means that she will be more likely to throw someone like sol under the bus if she thinks it can help the jedi politically especially since there is a major motion against the jedi on the senate floor. so there was a lot of meaning for what on the surface looks like a light joke.
I must say I love Manny Jacinto and his portrayal of Qimir. Guy is soooo good and he has the best lines too.
I'm sure Qimir is reaaaally old. He is like 10-15 years older than Osha, but speaks like it was like decades ago. He is the most complex character in this show, I'm kinda sad only one episode is left to put things together...
The unknown planet is meant to be Bal’demnic which was a planet with rocky tropical islands and cortosis deposits from the Darth Plageuis novel where Plageuis and his master used it. It does give off the vibes of Ahch-To though.
Darth Thirst Trap has me sold lol
In the novel "Star Wars: Darth Plagueis," it begins with a scene where Darth Plagueis and his master, Darth Tenebrous, are in a cavern filled with cortosis, sourrounded by giant rock cliffs, pristine beaches, and overlooking a vast northern sea. This planet is named Bal'demnic.
I am 100% sure this is not a coincidence, and I am 99% certain that either Plagueis or Tenebrous will make an appearance in "The Acolyte" towards the end.
I feel like the showrunner doesn't care at all about Plagueis or Tenebrous. But it'll be cool to see either of them
Keep dreaming 😂
@@alexp601I don’t want to see those made up aliens
@@alexp601Leslye Headland is a big fan of the EU and said that this show was about the Sith, so I would be very surprised if either of them aren’t around during this time period.
@@MJJFilms Hopefully they don’t make Qimir or any other human character turn out to be Plagueis or Tenebris!
I’m just happy there is an Asian with a light saber. I’m just happy there is someone who looks like me in this world.
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I am also happy you found someone who looks like you in this world. But they won't look exactly like you unless you're like Osha/Mae and have an identical twin, ha, ha. Seriously though, I'm pretty sure that the attack on the Death Star in R.o.t.J. had 1 or 2 Asian fighter pilots but, yeah, I don't remember them being shown holding lightsabers.
Used to know a wiccan but I doubt she would've been into the space witch chanting of 3rd episode. I've got above average body hair and a girl once jokingly compared me to a Wookie, ha, ha.
There are no butts in space, but there's always Uranus!!
Underrated comment
And a whole lot of moons.
Padawan Troye Sivan this episode would be happy.
that jedi who keeps saying that what if sol did all this is annoying asf
He is SO out of place in the episode. He feels like someone's friend who they decided to bring in on the day without any prep, and put him in the costume and gave him lines to say.
Or are you just easily triggered? The characters seriously aren’t that annoying at all
He wants to incriminate Sol sooo bad it's actually hilarious 😅
@@ThunderBZaper I don’t think you know what triggered means cause that ain’t it
@@ThunderBZaperSol, Jekki, and Darth ripped are the only 3 decent characters written in this show. Even then Sol makes stupid decisions and the writing is poor
Also vernestra getting "sick" during hyperspace is a reference to high republic books where she got visions during hypersspace travel.
BLAH BLAH Manny Jacinto tho. That man is hotter than Anakin on Mustafar.
Also, Greg, cute furry creatures are NOT “Disney.” They are “Star Wars.” As in Chewie and Wookies, as in the Ewoks, as in every creature besides Jabba the Hutt
I loved the episode. It explores this morbid curiosity I often have about people that hurt me. I want to understand them. I think this showcased that perfectly. And I related to Osha. Because Qimir intentionally leaving his guard down would disarm me too. And I fully understood why Sol wasn't picking up on Mae replacing Osha right away. He was distraught. He was an unbalanced mess. That could have something to do with why the ship was malfunctioning so much. Someone so strong in the force breaking down... causing everything to break down around him.
Agree. These people just yappin without using their damn brains. Actually if you use your brain then everything makes sense.
The only thing I don't like about this is that the episodes are too short.
Sorry, you can't say "Disney's tone" while watching Basel when there is a moon full of mini bears that defeated the Empire
Hahahah THANK YOU. I myself am only a casual fan of Star Wars canon just like Greg, but any casual fan should associate Star Wars from inception til now with cute teddy bear ppl.
I think alot of people forget that Padame dies from a broken heart in ep.3.... people take Starwars far too seriously. It's a show about space wizards.
You're speaking truth. I've noticed that when people brag about SW content it's usually around legends material, A New Hope, & The Empire strikes back. The prequels just started getting love. A lot of that is due to The Clone Wars cartoons. Disney is doing fine, they don't always hit the mark but as a casual, I am satisfied.
Different time, different tone.
Next argument.
@@MrJahbeez What you stated did not disprove anything
I'm LOVING Manny Jacinto's character in everything he does in this show thirst trap and all XD I was surprised by the Jedi being unalived in the last episode but I dont feel emotionally connected to their characters anyway, especially Yord who was super annoying. I actually liked Mae a bit more, Osha seems annoying and on a high horse at times. I need the TRUTH to be revealed !!
Framing Sol would make sense on why the Jedi is even more dogmatic by the time of the Prequels. It shows someone like Sol can fall to the dark side.
I do want to say, about Sol not recognizing, I think Mae spelled it out. Sol sees what he wants to see, and he wants to see Osha.
You can literally see the fear & anger in his face. Our boy Sol is clouded by the dark side.
he was very frazzled on the ship with mae around. His guilt was taking his focus away
Just made sol look stupid, mae was making it obvious from the beginning that she wasn't osha, u'd think he could sense that its a different person, or seeing as he can apparently read minds he would read her mind when he separates from twins and and she comes back acting weird and he even gives her a weird look u would think in that moment hed read her mind or sense her but watevr not the biggest issue with this show
@jacobjackson2787 At the beginning of the episode, Sol was punching tables and throwing hugs around... he is in an absolute spiral of emotions. He'd just watched his entire squad, including his young padawan, get butchered. Then gets his mind twisted by the stranger.... Sol probably could not sense a shit in his own pants at this moment in time.
@@cheeseknees9606 I guess I'll accept that even tho he still was visually suspicious immediately upon her arrival but didn't read her mind but whatever. The bigger problem I had with Sol this episode is he could've told the Jedi about the sith but didn't jus so he could go tell a story he could've told at any point over the last 2 decades.. that's absolutely stupid and only happened so Leslie can say the Jedi didn't know about sith still.
That british jedi dude must be someone's nephew or something he's awful 😂
Luke is wearing Levi's bleached white in the original movie. Source: Mark Hamill.
No shit? Excellent fun fact!
im not sure why either he or osha wearing jeans is such a big deal to them. they live in a faster than light galactic society. osha is a blue collar worker in an illegal job working and maintaining a ship. she wears the cloths an everyday person might, jeans happen to fall into that catagory.
I feel like I'm watching a different show because to me the dialog was very well thought out. Hearing what Qimer was saying about the dark side and losing attachments and then cutting to Sol experience all this I thought was brilliant. I also think you guys missed that Sol obviously knew it was Mae all along and so him saying he would turn himself in and tell the truth was him setting Mae up to see her reaction. He knew she was about to try and stab him which is why he made her fly the ship.
Holy shit, I didn't put that together. 😮
What did qimir say that would make u consider joining the person that just killed ur friends in front of u? Be honest
@@jacobjackson2787exactly, it makes no sense. Idk what OP is on about
@@jacobjackson2787this exactly 💯. I think Yord and Jekki were more than friends... they were love interests... but oh well, they're dead now so I'll worship their killer.
@@TripleeVFX notice how when u say something they can't refute or put them in a position where their response will prove it doesn't make sense they don't respond and just keep going around saying it's great. Constantly happens wen I'm going back and forth with people and I checkmate em. I don't get people.
I think the biggest issue is the writers have 8 30-minute episodes, and a complicated plot. Mandalorian was 10 30-minute episodes and a straight forward plot. I, for one, am glad Disney let us have something more 'adult'. I wish they gave the people working on it time to tell their story.
Yea I think it would be ok to have 6 episodes if they combine them right and give them more time to work on dialogue and cgi for certain moments
This show should have been a minimum of 10 episodes.
This is not a tv series. Its a movie split into 8 parts.
Same as pretty much every other SW and MCU Disney+ show
A 90 minute movie stretched out to four hours.
Not really. This show is actually structured like a traditional tv show. Each episode has its own plot that takes us to the next.
@@tokiyakillsinsight160 Lol no it really is not structured like a traditional TV show.
Almost like acts in a film...@@tokiyakillsinsight160
Qimir having railings on his island makes him OSHA compliant....🌝
I loved this episode. The setup of the mysterious island potentially being the island where tenebrous and plagueis went to mine cortosis is amazing. I think they are setting up to bring them more into canon possibly
This show is not as bad as it is said. Hate for nothing.
This show is terrible! It's written by children and for an audience that's just as gullible and immature. It's created by people who don't understand how people interact with each other on a basic level. The acting is so bad because nobody can genuinely act the way they're written - because the writers and the show runners are complete narcissists and maniacs in real life.
The difference between HBO hotd and prude american Disney 😂
What, do you wanna see some BJs in The Acolyte or something like the last HOTD episode?
If you wanna see nudity and sex in Star Wars, I'm pretty sure there's a whole porn "parody" version out there for you.
Disney is a family brand and so is SW. There's nothing wrong with that. When it comes to HotD, a background actor sucking on a prosthetic penis isn't edgy or mature. It's juvenile and it looked absolutely terrible.
One is a children network, and the other at one point was showing porn 😂 there is a difference between the two companies.
@@dinahgraham4964 yeah classical American culture where it’s ok for children to see a child getting stabbed and a neck snapped, but behold a child seeing a nipple or some other body part. But I guess as a European I don’t have to understand this logic 🤷🏻♀️ /s
This might be simultaneously my favourite episode and least favourite episode. Every single thing with Osha and the Sith, here for it. The melodrama, the thinly veiled romance, the first performances that feel human, the exploration of the dark side from a sith, Manny's yoked ass traps, everything.
Then there's the crap with the furball and Mae that i could really not give a single fuck about. Oh the droid is evil now so its red because thats the factory settings apparently. Sol is the only reason that storyline isnt something i just fast forwarded thru.
And then theres the rest of the Jedi. I don't think i care at all. The thing is, i love the IDEAS. I love that the Jedi need to play politics, i love that they need to be imperfect to maintain their version of peace, i love that theyre willing to throw Sol under the bus to maintain everyone else. Jedi are supposed to emotion free, that means they are inherently utilitarian and i love the IDEA of that being the case. But also the way the show goes about doing that and exploring that idea, i couldnt care less about them
TOTAALLLLYYYY agree
That osha stuff bothered me so much, why would she have been good this whole time, watch this guy kill her friends, then he just says a couple of pretty weak lines like "when you lose everything is when u become free" , oh ya that would definitely convince me to think about joining the guy who killed my friends, and jus like that she doesn't kill him when he gives her the chance and is at least thinking of joining him. Absolutely stupid as stupid gets cant believe so many people saying that was good.
@@jacobjackson2787 I think we'll learn that she wasn't all good the entire time. I mean there's a reason she "failed" right? And that she isn't a Jedi anymore. Maybe we'll find out that she wasn't as Jedi inclined as she thought herself which makes it easier for her to join the dark, hell maybe she's even felt the draw of the dark side before and that's why she got booted and why she cut herself off from the force entirely at the start of the show.
I'm making assumptions for the show, yes, but with the Osha/Sith scenes in this episode they've earned at least the benefit of the doubt from me, personally.
@@BTBSOUNDS i wasn't saying shes always been good I meant she's been good for the whole show so far, and u jus completely ignored the part where he killed her friends, be honest tho would someone who killed ur friends telling u "when u lose everything is when u become free" would that honestly make u not only spare him but think of joining him? There's no chance. Nothing he said was convincing at all. I'm glad some people enjoyed it at least I guess but it's insanely illogical to me.
@@jacobjackson2787 well you say they're friends. We didn't see a single friendly interaction between them. They're no different than just random people that happened to go to the same uni
so green girl was the master of the good place guy. thats why shes said shes personally going to take care of it
why do you think she's his master
@@omincat2703 his scars by his former master looking like whips scars, or curved. the fact shes taking on this case for him personally (she said it). the fact he was a padwan a long time ago and shes over 100 years old.
Unless the episodes are getting cut in half by executives, the writers don’t know how to pace or structure an episode of television. The last three installments have been half episodes.
Since Disney+ went to a commercial subscription option almost all their shows have pacing issues because you have people used to writing fo cable or film trying to figure out where to stick commercial breaks.
You can’t see anything out of the helmet. Really shows how strong he is in the force to do what he did last episode with it on
They use these helmets to train new jedi in the future
@@robertagren9360 yes training but not combat like he went through with like 8 + Jedi. I think the training this way probably makes for better Jedi and more force intuition, but at the level he pulled off is something. I know Luke practices the same way in A New Hope.
Vern getting sick in hyperspace is from the high republic novels. She started experiencing intense force visions during hyperspace. They must not have ever relented and she had to tell other people besides just her Master and her own Apprentice
Gregg, " They wouldn't do that..." Me staring back at him in Ahsoka
How Greg can dislike the acolyte so much but give high school musical the series a pass is mind boggling to me
I think Sol knew it was Mae the whole time.
So Sol knowingly abandoned Osha on a hostile planet, as did Mae? Doesn't he say at the end of the 6th episode that they have to find and save Osha? I think he also implies Osha is with Qimir, not sure how he knows that.
So do we think this series will stick the landing?
episode 6 was too short of coarse but I liked the choices made “that’s great kid! don’t get cocky”
Nahhhh lore ruined.
@@ihavethehighground732 literally in no way is but sure
Probably not
Hell no
There are a significant number of people who are jazzed about ALL of the episodes so far, not just the big lightsaber fight one.
Man I really appreciate Michael's thoughtful and articulate analysis at the beginning of the breakdown.
It was wayyyyyy too long, Greg literally stood up, walked away and sat back down and Mike was still mid monologue...
If you close your eyes, Qimir sounds like Mark Ruffalo 😂
"That’s my secret Osha, I’m always angry."
@@darkprinceofdorne “twin suns getting real low big guy “
So right
The whole bathing scene when you guys were chanting for a butt cheek moment, I couldn't stop thinking about Andor season 1 with the "one way out" chant and replacing it with "just one butt, just one butt" in my head.
I am legitimately confused by the number of people whose suspension of disbelief apparently ends with "haircut".
I never want to see any of these people watch the animated Mulan.
It was such a lame lazy trope to use and makes 0 sense whatsoever even forgetting the haircut. How does mae know how to act like osha, who she’s had one conversation with in 16 years. These are two twins separated on extremely different paths and they look act and sound exactly the same.
Thought this episode was dope, yeah I don’t really care about the Sol-Mai story but the Qimir-Osha story is so cool to me that idc
I haven't really complained about the run time but what the hell was that? I thought you guys were kidding around and edited in some credits..
🌪️ Lucas film has got a big problem on hand. They are trying to appease a fan base that is literally generations apart. You have fans that are very young all the way to as old as I am in my 50s. Writing stories to cover that complete age range is very hard to do. the best way to go about it is within the universe storylines for one group of the generation and create a separate group of stories for the older generation.
i think i agree. you have fans of the og trilogy, fans of the prequels and even younger people who were introduced to star wars through the sequel trilogy. disney is trying to appease everyone at the same time, but the issue is, each group likes wildly different things about star wars
People tend to like quality no matter their age.
The dialogue in this episode was actually very good compared to the others. The main problem that this show has had is how the story is split into eight short episodes. The pacing is meant for binging, not watching one episode a week.
I personally am loving this show. I'm typically not a fan of the standard high fantasy side preferring when tropes are done well or broken. Like new hope, love empire, hate everything else till Last Jedi, Rouge One and Andor. This though hits for me.
Also I think a good representation of the Jedi at this time can be taken from a quote from Dragon Age Inquisition by Solas on organizations being inherently corrupt.
"you think organizations to be inherently corrupt?"
"Given enough time, yes. To survive an organization must devote resources to maintain itself. Those resources accumulate until the original purpose, no matter how pure, is lost."
"You make the Seekers(Jedi) sound like a mindless beast."
"A mindless beast, no matter how mindless, will die and give way to a successor. An organization is eternal. There are always corrupt Men who hoard power for their own gain and there are always honourable men who hoard power to fight them."
Welcome back Michael!! Thank you Coy for spotting in last week, but damn we missed Mr. Tessler.
That said, what a shame Michael & Greg focused more on the negatives for the majority of the outro. Honestly, that may be what some viewers wish to hear, but not for me. I'd more intrigued to hear Star Wars experts like Michael speak on his elaborate theories about Qimir's past, his potential master, or the larger mysteries surrounding Sol or the Brendok coverup. Perhaps life circumstances of our beloved reactors may have affected this viewing experience. In that case, we give you our blessings. If not, the overwhelming negativity bias may be a product of succumbing to the herd mentality trend of critiquing the show, which would be unfortunate. In either case, I hope ep 7 viewing wouldn't continue this downward cyclic trend. Just my two cents. Cheers.
@@ssotkow thats why i prefer blind wave. theyre top notch
No we didn't - don't speak for all of us.
Aw missed you too! I’m sorry I was a bit more critical than usual - I think I was holding onto some frustrations 😅 I’m sure I’ll be back to my usual positive/speculative self next week!
Your reaction to this episode really surprised me. This was the first episode I was actually engaged in and made me look forward to the next episode.
The weakest part of the show were the sisters. Boring and lack personality. This episode finally goes a bit deep on them, specially Osha being proactive in the plot instead of just reacting to everything. I feel they remain too shallow as characters, we really needed a deeper episode at the beginning for them. Still, Sol and Qimir are carrying the show. And I'm excited to see how this ends.
I guess the reason is the actress probably isn’t good enough to play two distinct characters who are twins
The Twins play by same actress right? So, it's feel weird or difficult to understand the character. Trying to guess who is who. I thinks they should at least like real twins actors. Instead of someone to act like one.
Amandla was picked for the role before they had a script. This show was created around her and she’s failing miserably in her role
I really liked this episode. Feels diffrent than the other episodes. Like way better directed and acted. Hope they keep this tone going forward.
Yeah the direction was the ONE stand out. Amandla still generally not a good actor/actress but this director did a good job on this episode
@@ChrisSmith-tu9bu agreed
That basil vs mae fight had the 2nd best choreography in the show i wonder what fighting style basil uses
Real locations help
WAIT. Could that tiny little creature of his be the bigger looking mammals Luke gets milk from in TLJ?? They look extremely familiar and i swear this is Ahch-To.
If bad, why hot?
literally. it's basic logic.
This is legit a movie cut into 8 episodes. That’s what’s so annoying about all this
This episode was “Guilty as sin”-the Star Wars mash-up and I loved it 😂 the Qimir/Osha scenes are amazing. Kinda iffy on the “ooo the droid is evil now because it has red eyes” stuff but overall I like where this *could* be heading. I hope they can fully develop this to its potential
Watch them completely fuck the Lore and have Qimir be Sidious in training.
I kinda agree with Ur criticisms on the show. I feel the show has a lot of potential with it's concepts but the execution has been poor and when I compare the show to some of the high republic books in phase 1 I currently started, the high republic books are giving me what I thought the show was gonna deliver, a new era in the jedi and a fresh take on what it means to be one. I like watching the show, I have fun but it's definitely lacking in areas. It doesn't make me think of it as the high point of star wars but it also doesn't make me think, well I'm done with star wars. Mostly I think the show is kinda just mediocre which is a pity as I hope this doesn't discourage star wars from moving past the Skywalker era more
Maybe Venestra did the crime or ordered it and Sol has been trying to cover for her. Im pretty sure Venestra is Qimirs old master
Vendestra went to investigate to set up that she’s Qimir’s old Jedi master.
yes plus the fact they showed her whip
Wtf is this? You qatch the Acolyte and talking about every othwr thing except what u just watched? 😂😂😂
I like the show. I am intrigued by what Sol is doing, and was Vernestra the master of Qimir?
Either too few episodes, or they are not long enough. Feels like they are squeezing too much into too little. There are more interesting things than actual payoffs.
The little creatures on the planet, I think they evolve into those creatures in last Jedi where Luke drank milk from them
Like how disney star wars watcher is trying there best not to call this garbage. 🤣
I really dug all the scenes with Qimir but I still think Osha is one of the weakest protagonists I've seen in a long time. She barely has a personality, and is just way too passive.
Well said.
Everyone does except for SOL and Qimir literally the only reason to watch this show
Episode 1 started last week with Sol and Qimir.
21:37 Didn't we see Dexter Jettster's buttcrack in Attack of the Clones? I remember his pants drooping down and him using his arms to pull them up when he hugged Obi-Wan. But I don't recall 100% if his buttcrack was shown or not!
You are absolutely correct, I think my brain did me the great service of erasing that from the Jedi archives hahah
I have been looking forward for this
This episode was so intriguing yet so frustrating at the same time. I think they actually have a plan for where the franchise is going, but they're not really telling us. There are so many theories about what's really happening. Could Sol be on the dark side? Is Qimir Vernestra's former Padawan? Is he more than what he seems, perhaps Plagueis using Sith alchemy to disguise his true self? Or could Qimir be the first Ren? So many questions and no reveals it's all surface level stuff. I also wish they would make these episodes longer; we need more time for development. This show might have been better as a binge-watch. I think Dave's work is guiding the direction, but they're not giving us the clear, mapped out plan like the MCU.
My question is master Sol traitor?? 🤔🤔
Leslye Headlund is very versed in Lore your own biases are showing. @@Typecast-L
@@Typecast-Lthen if you just HATE the show and people who are not straight white people SO much and your just SO convinced that the entirety of Star Wars canon is destroyed (it’s not please touch grass) then WHY THE F ARE YOU STILL WATCHING IT
I would buy the writers a keg of beer if the short tracker pronoun rodent alien turns out to be Qimir's Sith master.
All I’m going to say is Cortosis was mined in the same planet Darth Bane existed, or legend says. Cortorsis is extremely rare and to have a large vein of it…plausible Banes planet
Qimir and Osha remind me Ben and Rey during episode 9
This episode was meh but Lee Jung-jae as Master Sol is a great actor! 👍
This show has been a complete fumble of an opportunity to delve into Sith Lore and instead we were treated with onscenely uninteresting mysteries regarding a brand new group of force users that the writers are apparently also not interested in exploring. This is fan abuse.
Another banger ep. Manny is simply CHEWING the scenery. Can’t WAIT for next week
You're easily pleased if you think this garbage is good TV.
@@andrewprice8940 Okay, Andy. Whatever you say, sugar pie.
@@andrewprice8940 i find it sad u watch shows u dont like
if you notice venestra uses a lightsaber whip and the mark on the back of the sith is a whip slash i think when osha said jedi master she was correct and that it was the green lady that stabbed him in the back with that purple lightsaber whip
The end when she put the mask on do you think that was a small Easter egg to Darth Vader? “The Breathing”
Greg's pretending-to-listen face is very very bad and kind of rude to Michael 😭
+retro_vintage
Huh???
While Manny keeps taking his shirt off, the force is female and also camper than ever. Lee Jung-jae is bringing a bigger growth market than the 'Real Star Wars fans' half of which don't want a quality show anyway because they get off on hate watching. And so many 'Real' SW fans have sworn they cancelled their Disney subscriptions so how are they even watching?
I don’t leave comments often, but I have to. There was so much great in this episode. I’m so tired of Star Wars “fans” crapping on everything! It’s supposed to be campy. Always has been.
This show stinks and 85% of normal people agree - and that includes the fans. The only people who think this is good are the ones this show is created for... and it's not normal people or Star Wars fans.
@@cam6406where do you get 85%?
Is that review scores?
If so that is 85% of a few thousand peoples reviews, but the show is watched by millions so the actual number of people hating or even disliking the show is probably closer to 10 %.
There's a difference between campy and embarassing cringe tho...
@@garymatthews4323 are you crazy? The review scores are represent the people watching it - maybe a million watch it, maybe, and that means 300 something million in USA and billions worldwide don't... you have no math to back up anything you just said... and absolute math either way to understand the show it's liked by the vast majority of people, including fans.
@@cam6406 you sound like your disagreeing with me but then say it is liked by the majority, I’m confused by your comment
Honestly if this story was a 2 hour movie we could trim out a lot of the fat and it'd be a lot better. There is a really good story in here but it's bogged down
think this writing is bad? rewatch the prequels. perspective.
The prequels are masterpieces compared to this trash
There are a lot of good things about this show but someone needs to sit the writers down and make them watch Shonda rhimes masterclass on writing for episodic tv. There’s no rhythm or pacing to these episodes, they’re broken up very weirdly, I hate the commercial breaks, they feel so abrupt and completely take me out of the story.
If you’re gonna ignore the rules of episodic tv writing then create something better, this has been worse
Or just make it a movie! There are different forms and formats for storytelling for a reason
Things would've been different if this show started off and focused more on Sol and Qimir.
Many people say that ep3 may be one of the worst tv episodes, given such a large budget, in history.
I would argue that this episode was worse.
And wow, now we all know for a fact that Amandla Stenberg did not test for her characters, because if she did, she would not have been cast.
There’s an interview where Amandla (mae and osha) talks about how the show was literally made for her. She was picked for the role before there was a script. Extremely weird to me. Also the green lady is headlands partner and a huge character in the high republic books. I’m sure they were both picked because they were the best for the role
I really enjoyed the interaction between Osha and Qimir. The tension between them was strong, and I loved it.
One thing to remember is that Qimir is a Sith. And of the "Rule of 2"-era, no less.
Whatever he says, especially about himself, should be called into question.
After all, Darth Bane's "Rule of 2"-Sith didn't survive and manage to further their grand plan until Palpatine successfully completed it by being honest and honorable..
How long was Osha out for that she was moved planets? Like you were just pushed against a rock.
No more inconvenient than being hit by a car I expect.
My critique of this mess come from a place of disapointment.
The bad dialouge and the rough editing doesnt really help this show/plot.
This show feels like it had good creative behind it but was destroyed by producers
This was great! Can I ask what software you use to be able to do a reaction from two different locations? Video quality looks awesome! Thanks!
Why did he get naked, get into the water, and get out again, like.... what????
disney shills like michael are even having trouble defending this garbage writing...
At this point just remove Mae and Osha from the show. Literally no point of their characters even existing. They don’t even know what they want 99% of the time. Great writing 👍
They had to check the boxes of course
Of course you havent seen it SHOW No CHARACTER developent😅😅😅😅
If this was made by Krippke and the team from The Boys, we would've gotten Darth Cheeks and Sith Junk.
Q'mir "You..want this,don't you?Goood..I can feeel your thirst..Do it! I am unarmed.Grab my junk.Yank me off..And take your sister's place at my side!! It is unavoidable..Like your sister once was,you are now.Mine."
One thing that has been bothering me about this series is that the episode titles are antonyms, except for three (which I believe episode 8 will pair with). However, the episodes feel rushed, either giving us too much of one perspective or none at all. I think the last two episodes will be the strongest, but the payoff, no matter how great, will be overshadowed by the poor pacing. I strongly believe that if the episodes had been released in pairs and explored Mae's perspective earlier, the reception would have been better. The heavy focus on Osha and Sol has caused the series to suffer. Keep up the great work on the channel!
Mae's character might be off because its a character choice by someone to make Osha and Mae distinct from eachother, which actually works visually i believe their different ppl. Sadly Mae isn't compelling visually or written
yall creepy as hell😂😂😂