Duramax Diesel Variable Turbo Intermittent Issues | P0046, P2563
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
- This 2005 Silverado 2500 HD with a LLY Duramax diesel has been throwing codes for the turbocharger. It's very intermittent. I suspect it's a mechanical problem with the turbo itself.
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I've done a lot of mechanical work in my life. I'm 64 years old now. And I couldn't imagine doing a job you just did. It would have probably take me a week, if I could do it, and then I would be in pain for a month. Bravo young man!!! Cheers to WWW!
Im 61 just changed the oil cooler lines on my gmc 5.3 liter. On my back, with the motor mounts in. My lord, it took a week for the cuts on my arms and body pain to heal. Its not like when we were 17 and could swap a mustang engine and tranny out in only one day out in the street😊
You should try changing a turbo on a 6.0 power stroke in a Econoline van hint it comes out the back
I'm 64 and still pull wrench for a living. I also refuse to work on anything that new. There is quite a demand for someone to work on things with no computers...and a little more access. Nothing is ever easy and I still curse the engineers from 50 years ago.
I'm 59, and more than happy I do that kind of work anymore...
I am sore just watching
Safe to say rebuilding that turbo is much more pleasant than installing it! Thanks for the shoutout!
Any time!
now I am curious, is the turbo Wes removed going to you guys at Area Diesel Service to be rebuilt and live on in another vehicle or is it scrap?
What is not to love about Wes??
The engineers drawings and explanations, calm and cool demeanor, addictive personality and never a bad thing to say.
If Wes is having a bad day - you'll never know it. Shocking there's not a million subs already!
Much love and respect from Lee County Florida!
I just commented a similar thing. I’m in Florida, I wish he was in St. Augustine
I love the drawings. Very well done
I can pretty much guarantee, with his calm demeanor, there isn't the amount of editing done as say, Kurtis, from Cutting Edge Engineering!
I wasn't expecting to learn how a variable geometry turbo works
@@bluegrallis love me some Homeless.
member the good ol' days when trucks had 8' beds and only 2 doors and shitloads of room under the hood.
When you could stand *inside* the engine bay when you were fixing it. 😁
Yep..diesel engines that could withstand an EMF Pulse too!
You could empty a 5 gallon bucket into glove compartment of a 1972 Chevy truck.😂
About 8 wires in the engine bay loom...........
And the inner fenders were tough enough so you could sit on them while pulling the intake and heads?
Is Wes a mechanic?engineer?fabricator?farmer?machinist?youtuber?or all of the above?? Impressive
He is a F**k*ng Wizard!😂
yeah, "Farmer" pretty much covers all of those other terms
Maybe but being a family man tops all.
Yes.
According to his video he is a mechanical engineer specializing in automation and controls. (100K Subscribers Q&A Video) at 19 min 40 sec mark.
You know when Wes pushes a company such as Area Diesel...he means it. Quality recommendation right there.
Wes isn't the only channel to recommend them.
Kudos to Wes and ADS for rescuing another old diesel.
Wes, I will never get tired of watching you work! I feel your pain on this stuff, fellow MN wrencher here (just on my own machines). Thank you for your continued posts. I know it's a lot of work, but it doesn't go unnoticed!
Another MN guy here.
Me too.👍
Of all the places you've been to, Area Diesel Service is where I'd like to have a school trip.
Great idea. I couldn't do what they do but it is real interesting see how things come apart and go back together again. That would have been a fantastic school trip too. 👍👍
They have a youtube channel.
Stop by anytime!
Quite a few now of my favorite channels have run into a tight spot and Area Diesel Service has been the answer (more than once for you on this channel, I think, Wes). While I really enjoy the collaborations, I enjoy more seeing so many good examples of those who still care about doing a job well, and at a fair price. When I worked in the restaurant business back in college, I recall a stat that, on average, people who have a bad experience with a business will tell 10 people, but if they have a good experience, they'll only tell 1. The lesson...it takes 10 times the work for a business to build a good reputation as it does to ruin one. And boy oh boy do you and ADS put in the work. Thanks, Wes.
ADS looks like a great outfit..i saw a tour of their shop courtesy of one of youtubers..coulda been wes, i forget
Finding good service it's like finding a treasure and you want to keep it for yourself 😅
Appreciate the kind words. It really is part of our culture here. We do the best we can do in whatever we're doing, we're honest, and we try to take good care of people. It's hard to compete with all of today's ecommerce and import stuff, but it's reassuring that we are fighting the good fight when we read comments like this.
Thanks for opening up the old turbo so we could see how it is supposed to work!
Yes, I really appreciated that. The diagram was awesome to start with and the direct ‘show and tell’ was icing on the cake. Thanks big time.
"It's pretty amazing that it actually works" yeah the VGT systems have always amazed me too
Made something extremely difficult seem easy--and that's just the video recording. The mechanic work is its own hurdle.
Good job by Mrs Wes.
This is the worst one I have done. The 6.4 is harder (cab has to be raised), but I refuse to work on those.
Idk, it might have been just as easy\hard to pull a few bolts, a couple connections and just lift cab. So much easier to do anything on these diesel engine trucks. The battle would be the cab-to-frame bolts though, especially a 20 yr\old rusty one. 6 of one, half doxer of the other! 🤷🏻♂️ Tough call either way! 🤔👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩🗜️🚜🏗️🛢️👨🏻🏭😄
The peeps at Area Diesel Service are the bees knees, always pleasant to deal with and super helpful!
Appreciate the kind words. It really is part of our culture here. We do the best we can do in whatever we're doing, we're honest, and we try to take good care of people. It's hard to compete with all of today's ecommerce and import stuff, but it's reassuring that we are fighting the good fight when we read comments like this.
Those folks at Area have got to be the best people to deal with on injection, turbo, and diesel fuel pump service going. I remember when you went there and did a video. I was at a big farm equipment auction yesterday up in New York State and saw three of their ball caps on three different families that told me they had their work done there. Bill
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
The variable geometry turbos in 6.7 Cummins have similar problems. They can use the vane function as an exhaust brake, but the turbo can get stuck in the full brake position and the truck never makes any power. Luckily, it's a fully electronic actuator that you can remove to manually actuate the mechanism to try and free it up, they even have a port to add cleaner as a service procedure. Unluckily, the actuator is attached with 5mm allen screws, and is conveniently exposed to the elements through the passenger wheel well. Fun times!
At least the Cummins is possible for a normal person to remove, though it's heavy and awkward.
The 15L had a problem for a while where at shut down, the turbo would go to full closed. Engine would cool and turbo would seize closed. Engine wouldn't even start. Had to loosen the turbo to manifold hardware to give some place for the exhaust to go. Engine could then start and run to at least get it in the shop.
International DT466E same problem. The ring that the variable vanes run in gets carbon and rust buildup killing the power. Variable vane technology is one of the worst things to put on an engine.
@@dangerrangerlstcBeen there before, I've also seen DPFs completely face plugged because of a sticking turbo
Does anyone know what real-world benefit is delivered by these variable-vane turbos? A fraction of a dollar less in fuel used (when the turbo is new and working properly)? A few polar bears saved ? Except when the turbos don't work properly the fuel consumption probably increases and the the cost to the owners to fix the issue greatly exceeds anything they may have saved from reduced fuel consumption over the life of the truck.
That VG Turbo sketch reminds me of the drawings some of us did as kids to magically explain our invented gizmos.
Except in this case, you were explaining an actual engineered gizmo.
I have a new sense of appreciation for the amount of under-hood room in my RAM 3500 I-6 Cummins.
Agreed. Frees up a lot of time for working on the rest of the truck.
Agreed, except the engine mounted oil and fuel filters are far more of a pain to get to then say a modern 6.7L Ford.
Wait until the turbo actuator goes bad on that truck... Pain in the ass to change.
This guy fixes cars, films it, draws diagrams and edits it. Amazing. I wish you were in florida
Yes ! Let us know if you ever move to Florida. With your reputation and word of mouth, you would do quite well here .
And our cars aren't rusty!
One video when you pointed the camera at a sad Max on a windy day and said " there's Max doing his best audition for an ASPCA commercial " I immediately burst out laughing and subscribed - you deal with adversity with humor - a very rare commodity -- thanks Wes
Your videos are simply the best. No matter if you’re squirrel hunting, making a knife, remodeling or working on a vehicle, they are enjoyable and informative. Thank you for taking us along.
I freaked at first - thought wes was going to source the turbo from “Jimbo’s “ - East St Louis IL … 😂
😂 Jimbo needs to make a reappearance
Man, Area Diesel has really bailed a lot of people out of tough situations! If only all companies had their level of customer service and knowledge! Thanks Wes for compacting down a 12+ hour job to less than 30 minutes, we really enjoy the highlights! 🤣 This job "looked" easier than the fuel injector fiasco from a while back, which do you think was more of a PITA???
About the same.
My dad totaled my 05 LLY at 259k about two months ago. It warms my heart to watch your struggle on these from the comfort of my computer while I'm stationed over in Korea. I know it's gonna be a pain when I go to transplant the drivetrain into a new unwrecked body. At least mine spent its life in NC before I brought it to Ohio. Thanks Wes!
Thank you for your service
Oh man Wes, this video gave me psychosomatic back pain! What a job👍
It's also rough on the forearms and quads.
@@WatchWesWork Please watch out for your back Wes. I winced when you lifted the turbo in over the engine. Ask me why I winced (and I wasn't a grease monkey).
@@WatchWesWorkI really wonder where you get your muscle strain fixed. It is impossible to do this work without getting sore and physically hurt.
My knuckles started bleeding watching this..whats that called?? Oh yea..stigmata😊
A classic Wes. Thanks for taking us along on the struggle.
Other channels express the same joy and confidence in area diesel as you did…
Wes you are the person that recommended Area Diesel on a video long ago that I watched.
I am also a happy customer of them
Purchased a reman pump for my 24 valve cummins.
Thanks ! And another great video !
Wes, I'm glad someone will fix a dirtymax. I much prefer an older mechanical cumming in my pickup. Far fewer things to cause issues while driving.
Part of the fun of being a mechanic is inventing new cuss words, and stringing them together in new and exciting ways.
I enjoy watching you work on these old clapped out diesels!
Wes thank you for taking the time to explain those who have no knowledge of how a VGT works. The design was excellent Wes Class.
Those motors weren't designed for pickup trucks. They were designed for cabover box trucks. Easy access to everything. Great job getting it running the way it should!
Yeah tip the cab forward and go nuts, every nut and bolt is right there, insane to put it in a normal truck just like that
@lolatmyage even if it was in a Freightliner or Kenworth etc. It would be easier to work on.
Wes, I've always appreciated how you try to put yourself in the shoes of your customer and come up with a fix that not only works but isn't just firing the parts cannon at something. You try to find aftermarket or used alternatives for parts, when applicable. That's a rare trait these days. Your area of Illinois is lucky to have someone like you around.
"They basically started with a turbo-charger and the built a truck around it." Love your sense of humor, Wes! 🤣🤣🤣 That's funny, right there, don't care who you are!
It's really good when you can find a business that actually delivers on what they promise. I've watched some of their video and they come across as good guys and extremely competent professionals, just like you Wes. 👍
Thank you for the video. ❤❤
One of those jobs that makes you question why you ever became a mechanic in the first place.
Nice work Wes!
I don't own a diesel and never have. But I know Area Deisel Service because every RUclips channel that I watch that has a diesel sooner or later ends up using them for something. Almost makes me want to buy one knowing they are there.
We'll be here if you do!
Make sure to send that customer a Thank You card when your son graduates college. Nice video.
Hi Wes, everytime I watch you fix any vehicle. You make me glad I retired. I had my share of things. Keep having a hard times. Thank you for sharing. Always look forward to your next video.
Man, the things you go through to bring us these videos....I KNOW trying to work and video adds a tremendous amount of time to the project. Thanks Wes.
I’ve worked on the Duramax and Powerstrokes many times. I can feel your pain. I quit the mechanic gig five years ago at the age of 62.
My buddy has a 2001 that just got injectors. He asked me if I wanted to do that job and I declined. We know a guy like Wes that is an excellent mechanic that has worked on plenty of these trucks. The Duramax is a great motor, but they definitely shoehorned this motor in there. I'm no professional mechanic and some jobs are just better left to the pros with better equipped shops and more knowledge. Another great video though Wes. I appreciate you taking the time to film this stuff, as the info is valuable.
Wes, your troubleshooting skills are as good as I've ever seen. I enjoy your videos tremendously.
3rd time back to Wes, you know its a wicked problem. Yoohoo Area Diesel Service !!
came for the video, stayed for Wes's drawling skills.
The fact that he drew such a detailed and accurate picture just to explain how works is cool. The only reason I would ever attempt to draw a picture of a part is if I was going to a parts store in a country where I didn’t know how to say the name of the part in their language. My artist skills are pretty much stick figures
between You and Diesel Creek, Area Diesel Service may soon expand nation wide.
Right call on the turbo, good result for the client.
I feel your pain I got roped into doing head gaskets on one of them and the book called for 41 or 42 hours labor I did it in 45
42 hour book time, you're shitting me? 😱😱
@@josephking6515 nope look it up is very labor intensive I can tell you that never removed so many parts in my life from a engine to do head gaskets and I have done many gas engines
At over 200k on it, an intermittent issue of this magnitude I would just drive it, this thing is a few years from the scrap yard. Nice work as always Wes
Not my call.
This job is why junk yards were invented. Admire your persistence and do or die attitude but you went above and beyond with this one.
Not many people I've run across have the perseverance to do a job correctly as you do Wes. Good job.
Wes is the man. Love his explanations of what’s happening and especially the drawings. We appreciate your work in filming and sharing!!!
You are a brave soul for rescuing a 20 year old Illinois truck.
I just want to say, I'm a CAD draftsman, and I really enjoy the hand drawn diagrams.
13:04 I had an old Isuzu Trooper. It seemed like every part of that thing was bolted down under seven other unrelated things.
Classic!
You’re not only a great mech/tech ,you’re a great videographer and editor too. I got just enough information to show how very difficult that turbo R/R is. As always I’m looking forward to seeing your next video 👍👍👍
😂 I called it! Two minutes in and I was going to comment that on the 6.0L Fords the variable veins would get clogged up with carbon and seize up. To hell with variable vein turbos! Good work my friend as usual!!
On small engines the carbon buildup is usually from driving the engine too lightly and many times it can be "repaired" by taking it on highway or a long hill and make it work at high rpm and high load to burn the buidup. I wonder if this is same case, I doubt these big diesels are used close to maximum power often.
@@petrnemecek4379 My first repair if it was an old guy was to tell him to let his grandson take it out for the weekend. If that didn't work, at least on 6.0s a turbo is a half hour removal job if you know what you're doing
Depends if you want power or reliability, what BMW can wring out of a 3L turbo diesel with 2/3 turbos is fairly impressive. Mind you something with twice the displacement and half as much boost/turbos will last twice as long.
Wes is truly an American treasure. Seriously, the guy can diagnose, figure it out, fix it, and explain what he's doing, too. That's gotta piss off some manufacturer engineers greatly. And that's okay with me.
And this is why I take mine to a mechanic when it gets real like this. Good mechanic is priceless
My brother has a 2019 Duramax, I turned him on to Area Diesel Service at your suggestion.
Great start to a rainy Sunday in Wisconsin
rainy in Colorado too
Wow, nice work Wes, best line, "they had a turbo and built a vehicle around it" brilliant.. Thanks Wes!
If I wasn't already motivated to avoid diesel trucks like the plague, this video did it for me
Thanks Wes!
I would not want to do that job, what an absolute nightmare. Great repair, as ever. Thanks for taking us along.
Working on one of them will make u rethink your life decisions
The first two videos of yours that I ever watched you were working on Silverado’s. My immediate thought was why why why are engineers allowed to design things they would never have to service. When this video popped up I got stressed on your behalf. What a horrendous job. And as usual you persistently worked to a favorable conclusion. Even though this was a pricey repair, it beats the crazy cost of new trucks today.
I don't know how you do it, but I'm glad you do. You really troubleshoot what the correct problem is.
And you fix it. You are one of the few mechanics that really sink your teeth into the problem. Thank you for sharing.😊
Stacking all the nuts on the V band clamp is an old underground fitters trick. Keep all the threads protected from rust.... hopefully.
God was crying for you as you finished. He was so happy.
Way to go Wes. I helped my neibor change his turbo out when the oil ran out of it like a can getting put in an engine. I took us a full weekend and three nights to fix it. New turbo from Oreillies was over eight hundred dollars. it did not come with the gaskets. But a year later it still runs like new with over 300,000 miles. The local dealer wanted over $4000 to do the job. Good stuff keep it up.
Why doesn't this channel have 1 million subs?
I was thinking it might be easier to pull the cab, yes what you endured makes my back go into spasms,
Yes I have had 2 back surgeries prev. The dividends earned by being a heavy equipment mech.
A removable trans tunnel would help, you know with straps. Hats off to you, WES YOU ARE THE MAN.
For some reason, watching someone else suffer through a repair is very relaxing. ;-)
Area Diesel Service to the rescue! 😊
Loving the very subtle add placement. This comment brought to you by Area Diesel Service.
I just wish they had a branch in Austruckinfalia. They now their stuff.
Not so subtle..its a great outfit, and deserves recognition. Lol i did laugh when he put their cap on😅
@@pootthatbak2578 ya my comment was very tongue in cheek! If Wes supports I do as well
@@josephking6515 We ship worldwide!
@@pootthatbak2578 I did too!
You never cease to amaze me. Wes you are a genius!
That's a hell of a job. Good lord man, I'm glad to be watching you do it and not watching me do it! 🤣
I absolutely love your drawings, mine would look like a 5YO drew it yours looks like something you see in a book.
Thank you Wes i was dying of boredom on Sunday..
Looks so much easier from my chair. Thanks for taking me along
Wes, you can add a new dimension to the expression. "A Brave New World" as you deftly replaced this old turbo! As also said "No guts, no GLORY" Lookin' good Wes.
"Not for the Faint of heart" was funny! You’re some special kind of persistant mechanic! Thanks for the video!
Great diag & swap out, Wes to the rescue again!
watching from Quakertown, Pennsylvania USA
East Greenville PA neighbor
Simply amazing! Wes! Being in my '70s and mechanical I refused to work on anything made after about 1975. Thanks for reinforcing my decision. Where's the kid!
Every Duramax video is a treat!
Funny enough, I just got my diesel SUV back today after a turbo failure. New engine at only 65k miles, it was only $50k (!) according to the shop foreman - luckily under warranty.
Holy crap! You could buy a new car for that!
Just the greatest! 🙂👍
Time to go back to designs where access for repair is allowed for. Wishful thinking when engineers do their stuff today. It makes working on vintage cars an absolute joy. Best wishes from the UK, thank you for posting.
After watching this, I went out to the driveway and had a talk with my Chevy 2007LBZ 3500.
I told the damn Turbo it had better hang in there!!!
👍👍
Rainman rays repairs will be your man 👍
Glad to see you replaced the oil supply line as well. It's common to have them get cooked up and plugged. Some suppliers require it's replacement for warranty purposes. Glad you were doing this one and not me!
The local stealership. I like that subtle dig.
I think that the carbon built up into the clearance area and the ring needed time exposed to the hot exhaust to thermally expand enough to allow it to rotate. Pretty awesome diagnosis. I once had to replace/upgrade the linear actuators on a pair of centrifugal air blowers that also had radial intake valves, and the blowers were so big that there was something like 40 vanes on a 4 ft circle.
I was thinking the same thing, that the ring needed some exhaust heat before it could loosen up and rotate, thus the delay on startup.
Yeah that’s my theory as well.
This video is case in point why we don't touch our trucks lol. We build buildings and our mechanic keeps our trucks running to get us to the jobsite. I would lose my mind, break multiple parts and I'm sure at some point hammers would be involved.
You have written what 99% of us are thinking.
Great Sunday morning to everyone. Good old Wess video thanks And remember everyone Jesus Christ is the answer ✝️🙏
The inside of the turbo is a perfect explanation of a tesla valve. I could be wrong about that. Good job sir
Watching this makes me appreciate my 12 valve even more
Too bad pulling the cab wasn’t an option on that crusty thing!
It would have made it easier.
I was going to say @flyingwrenches13 would have had the cab off. I think he pulls the cab to change the oil...lol
I was thinking along those lines. However this is an old truck. Not feasible.