Honda Odyssey Limps in with P2647 - VTEC Stuck on | Not What I Expected!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 апр 2022
  • This 2007 Honda Odyssey has codes for both bank 2 O2 sensor heater circuits and a P2647 for the VTEC stuck on. The heater circuits are easy, but the P2647 does not end well.
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  • @WatchWesWork
    @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +133

    No, an oil pump is not going to fix this engine...

    • @SeanONeill13
      @SeanONeill13 2 года назад +31

      What about more dielectric grease? Would that help?

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +39

      @@flightforensics4523 That's not going to fix the rod bearings...

    • @eatmorecoleslaw
      @eatmorecoleslaw 2 года назад +22

      “I just need an oil change and a tune up” ~ Customer, who states such

    • @anderleof
      @anderleof 2 года назад +1

      @@WatchWesWork I don't recall you saying the rod bearings were bad. Do you know they are bad?

    • @314computernerd
      @314computernerd 2 года назад +10

      @@anderleof The engine has lived a good long life and has lots of miles on it. Everything wears down after time no matter how good you take care of it. "Customer states they changed the oil regularly" is a lie you hear a lot of in the industry as well. Or as Wess stated, it leaks oil from just about everywhere. The customer most likely let it run low on oil, because of all the leaks, and the poor engine died because of oil starvation. Most of the time you will never get an honest answer from someone because they don't want to admit that they were the root of the problem and most technicians don't want to waste their time tearing into a known bad engine.

  • @wb8ujb
    @wb8ujb 2 года назад +271

    I Stopped wrenching a very long time ago. But, I sure like the way you walk us through the diagnostics on each trouble. You're one of the best mechanics I have watched. Thank you, for sharing your thoughts, and methods of diagnostics. Greatly appreciate you work.

    • @calholli
      @calholli 2 года назад +5

      You should look up Ivan at "pine hollow auto diagnostics" ---- another good one is "south main auto"... These guys are both good and I think they are all buddies too.

    • @Peter-td3yk
      @Peter-td3yk 2 года назад

      also the side comments are fantastic to hear.. keeps me smiling..

    • @rimmersbryggeri
      @rimmersbryggeri 2 года назад

      Wes is great.

  • @muffinthepug2358
    @muffinthepug2358 2 года назад +196

    Who else hits the thumbs up icon before Wes has even started talking ?....

  • @BMC1100
    @BMC1100 2 года назад +67

    Not the ending I was expecting, I was expecting Wes to come walking around from the back of the barn carrying a shotgun...

    • @moparscot9271
      @moparscot9271 2 года назад

      Comment of the year!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @-EC002-
      @-EC002- 2 года назад +2

      It would have been the decent thing to do :(

    • @marcryvon
      @marcryvon 2 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @yako0000
      @yako0000 2 года назад

      lol

  • @francistheodorecatte
    @francistheodorecatte 2 года назад +109

    my friend's 2006 odyssey had the same code, and it turned out to be a tired oil pump too. it was close to 300,000 hard miles (with a lot of towing of trailers along the way). the guy who bought it off of him swapped the engine with a lower mileage one and is still driving it three years later.

    • @MegaDysart
      @MegaDysart 2 года назад +4

      300,000 miles AND towing trailers, it had to have gone through a few transmissions right?

  • @jimdieseldawg3435
    @jimdieseldawg3435 2 года назад +28

    Not every job has a happy ending. Your disappointment at the outcome speaks volumes. Wes, You Sir, Are Good People 🙂

  • @bonemanmcjames2953
    @bonemanmcjames2953 2 года назад +31

    Eric O's classic intro:
    "This one came from another shop."

  • @bigbird8617
    @bigbird8617 2 года назад +43

    As a shade tree mechanic, I love the way you walk us through the diagnostic process. I'm not very good with electrical, which is why I love your channel. I'm always trying to learn .Thank you .

  • @douglasmayherjr.5733
    @douglasmayherjr.5733 2 года назад +2

    I really appreciate your troubleshooting explanations and how you break circuits down to bite sized pieces. Thanks for sharing your time and videos.

  • @thomasmaloney2865
    @thomasmaloney2865 2 года назад +5

    Hey Wes, just recently subscribed to your channel and it's awesome. You're an awesome dude that does honest work. Just wanted to say I appreciate that there's still some good guys out there.

  • @eldoradony
    @eldoradony 2 года назад +95

    Don't feel bad Wes, that owner got his money's worth from that van. He obviously saved money by not keeping up with the other problems like the wheel bearings. Passenger vehicles weren't designed to last like commercial trucks with expected service of over a million miles.

    • @calholli
      @calholli 2 года назад +2

      You'll have to show me a commercial vehicle that has lasted over a million miles... because I've never seen one.

    • @LAactor
      @LAactor 2 года назад +6

      @@calholli like big rigs. You have to understand the dynamics of stop and go city driving vs all highway consistent speed driving. A million big rig miles is equal to 100k pass car miles.
      There are exceptions. There are two million miles tundras but they are exceptions because they are not on their original transmissions, do exclusively highway miles. Believe he was a Texas oilman who drive from site to site in the region. And of course the reliability of Toyota plus the robustness of it's truck engines.

    • @calholli
      @calholli 2 года назад +7

      @@LAactor I've seen 7.3L Ford Diesels that have passed a million.. but it's not common. I have a 2002 F350 7.3L Diesel with 6spd Manual, 4x4 w/ manual transfer case/ manual locking hubs.. and I've passed 330k miles now. It's more of a tractor than a truck. It doesn't even have tilt or cruse control. lol.. Very basic. But it's an excellent rig, that will still tow an overloaded gooseneck trailer up the side of a mountain without trying hard, even with the high miles... but my truck is an exception

  • @Reliable_Randy
    @Reliable_Randy 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoy watching your content. Very reliable information you give. Keep it up Wes.

  • @rickdeckard6280
    @rickdeckard6280 2 года назад

    I like the way you explain your thought process. You and eric o are excellant teachers. Thank god for guys like you.

  • @boonedockjourneyman7979
    @boonedockjourneyman7979 2 года назад +7

    Thanks for the new episode. I’d rather just thank you for pushing another one out rather than blow gas. Please know that we enjoy your work and learn a great deal while watching the best show on YT.

  • @Military-Museum-LP
    @Military-Museum-LP 2 года назад +3

    One of the most enjoyable parts of your videos is your diagnosis step by step of finding the problem. You are a extremely intelligent person Wes.

  • @milwsdl39
    @milwsdl39 2 года назад +2

    With all these diagnosis videos gonna call you the professor awesome job as always Wes 😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @jdretiree2433
    @jdretiree2433 2 года назад +2

    You know you are pretty good at what you do when another shop sends you what it can't fix and you fix it. (well in this case you didn't fix it but you figured out what went wrong) Thanks for letting us tag along.

  • @markstevens7190
    @markstevens7190 2 года назад +10

    My new favourite channel after binge watching all videos

    • @mrswes
      @mrswes 2 года назад

      Glad you enjoy Wes’s videos!

  • @jberg8159
    @jberg8159 2 года назад +1

    You know your a good RUclipsr when your views are higher than your subscribers. Keep up the great work Wes!

  • @Gangstercub
    @Gangstercub 2 года назад +1

    i love all the electrical stuff you do. Not many channels focus on that.
    thanks.....

  • @GinosGarageUSA
    @GinosGarageUSA 2 года назад +68

    This was like the Bambi of Watch Wes Work videos! Not the outcome I am sure anyone wanted, that is some detroit 2 stroke oil pressure right there. I know why you cannot get to the oil pressure port, because the Japanese do not plan for anything to be broken, I worked with Mitsubishi engineers and it was clear that they did not want to ever make a mistake or a bad decision, they would take weeks or months sometimes to come back with an answer to solve a problem.

    • @999benhonda
      @999benhonda 2 года назад +4

      do American's plan for anything to break? I had an s10 that made 5psi of oil pressure at idle when warm, the pump was good, but the cam bearings were likely shot. I've had 2 different GM 3.8's that blew head gaskets at 100k miles. My dad had a dodge ram with the v10 that welded to of its spark plugs into the head. The only vehicles I've had that outran my Japanese made ones were volvo 740's. The old redblocks didn't make a lot of power, they were not light nor were they easy on gas...but they never stopped running. I had one that the oil change was so long over due, that the oil would freeze in the oil pan...every startup that winter for a good couple of months was basically with very little oil. It didn't hurt it one bit.

    • @darylball4717
      @darylball4717 2 года назад +1

      @@999benhonda I always driven Chevrolet I have had nothing but good luck see alot Honda and Toyotas on the side of the road

    • @mattcat231
      @mattcat231 2 года назад +1

      @@darylball4717 Same here nothing but GM in my stable, (02 and 04 Silverado2500HD's, 04 Cadillac Deville, and 03 Oldsmobile Aurora) always see TONS of Toyotas and Hondas broke down along I-70 here in SWPA! I have towed more foreign makes than American!

  • @htownblue11
    @htownblue11 2 года назад +5

    Tired oil pumps and valve lash on these Hondas can cause a garden variety of strange issues. Couple that with ring issues on some of these era engines, and it’s a rats nest to unwind. You’re the best Wes. Thanks for the journey.

  • @arthursoctomah9175
    @arthursoctomah9175 2 года назад

    I'm always inspired by your vids to tear into stuff I know absolutely nothing about... love it

  • @ksokie63
    @ksokie63 2 года назад +1

    Wes , it appears that this one is doomed. You do a great job of explaining what your doing . It's good to have someone just tells like it is and puts in easy explanation for everyone that watches. Thanks again and have a great weekend and 🖐👍

  • @Quake81270
    @Quake81270 2 года назад +4

    I thoroughly enjoy your videos. You explain in detail without talking down to us non-mechanics. We just hit 88888 miles on our 2005 Honda Odyssey. As you can tell we don't drive it much. Purchased 10/13/2004 and our first brake replacement was on November 14, 2021. I would recommend an Odyssey to anyone out there as it is very reliable and if this 2007 is any indication we have over 100,000+ left on her.

    • @jasonanderson4915
      @jasonanderson4915 2 года назад +1

      You probably have your entire life left with that van.

  • @roypearce6968
    @roypearce6968 2 года назад +4

    Yes these cars now a day’s run very thin oil. And yes all those miles tired and worn out. Great video Wes 👍

  • @jharkins
    @jharkins 2 года назад

    End of the line. I'm glad that you featured one of these and I appreciated how you explained the reasoning.

  • @t1259sw
    @t1259sw 2 года назад

    Great job Wess, it's always, always functional.

  • @garymucher4082
    @garymucher4082 2 года назад +21

    Pretty impressive how close the mechanical pressure gauge and the electronic readout matched. Obviously this isn't a mere bad oil pump. Sounds like every bearing in the engine has seen their better days... Thumbs Up on your video and troubleshooting techniques.

  • @Diesel_engines
    @Diesel_engines 2 года назад +9

    The way the oilpressure acts looks to me like a open stuck pressurevalve….
    When the oil heats a little pressure drops
    Love the videos you make…..

  • @boonedockjourneyman7979
    @boonedockjourneyman7979 2 года назад

    It’s part of the “marketing mode.” I’m sure any regular viewer knows exactly what I mean. You’re a genius kid. What ever you do, don’t stop this. You’re helping thousands.

  • @dudekbubek7914
    @dudekbubek7914 2 года назад

    what a roller coaster
    the middle was a little bit boring
    and such a twist at the end !!!
    thanks for another great video !!!

  • @jptrainor
    @jptrainor 2 года назад +72

    VCM J series engines of this vintage can develop problems with excess oil consumption due to the piston rings fowling on the deactivated cylinders. That would increase the risk it was run low on oil at some point, or even regularly. May have contributed. There was a warranty extension to replace the piston rings, but not all engines developed the problem. Who knows.

    • @tommytron2000
      @tommytron2000 2 года назад

      09 accord with oil consumption here.

    • @edwardmyers1746
      @edwardmyers1746 2 года назад +2

      I thought that was just on the J37s

    • @jptrainor
      @jptrainor 2 года назад +1

      @@edwardmyers1746 There was definitely a problem with 35's. Maybe 37's too. There's a TSB about it. People sell vcm "muzzle" disablers gadgets to try to avoid it. Lots of talk about them in the message boards. I have a 2010 Odyssey ex-l that has vcm. No issues, but the tsb and warranty extension applies (now expired). I'm not interested in the muzzlers. If it's ever a problem I'll just do the piston rings per the tsb.

    • @edwardmyers1746
      @edwardmyers1746 2 года назад +2

      @@jptrainor actually I think it might be something different I'm thinking of, pretty sure my J37 has no deactivating cylinders but it still consumes oil, I think the recall on that replaces pistons and rings

    • @tommytron2000
      @tommytron2000 2 года назад +2

      @@edwardmyers1746
      I think it had to do with piston design those years.
      Weep holes on oil return rings get plugged. I blame it all on the outrageously long oil change intervals

  • @niteninja0133
    @niteninja0133 2 года назад +4

    Love starting my weekend with a Watch Wes Work video. Can't get any better

  • @dannyoaks85
    @dannyoaks85 2 года назад

    First video of yours I've gone through the comments. Learned a lot

  • @charliewinkler4853
    @charliewinkler4853 2 года назад

    Thanks for your detailed videos. Your square Chevy is exactly like the one my uncle gave me with a 200,000 miles on it but when it blew the head gasket I donated it to Salvation Army. Not sure why everything you work on is so damned ragged out, it must be the rust belt. I love your channel, it renews my faith in Gen Xers. 😄

  • @electrica2336
    @electrica2336 2 года назад +50

    Those engines with the VCM are infamously bad when it comes to oil related issues. Honda 6s with VTEC will happily run for over half a million miles so long as you keep up with oil changes and keep feeding them transmissions to beat to a pulp.

  • @tonyz2897
    @tonyz2897 2 года назад +10

    I drove a lot of junk when I was younger and had some good luck dropping oil pans in-car and rolling new bearings into some pretty tired engines. Not sure if that would be an option here, but it was always good for a significant improvement in oil pressure as long as the engine wasn't already far enough gone to have spun a rod bearing.

  • @tompuhalla7774
    @tompuhalla7774 2 года назад

    You are an awesome mechanic and a better teacher 👍

  • @michaelweatherhead9470
    @michaelweatherhead9470 2 года назад

    Never a dull moment huh Wes.

  • @LAactor
    @LAactor 2 года назад +4

    I remember Eric the Car Guy had a whole series on a Fixer upper Odyssey. VCM problem as well. His workaround was to rebuild the problem bank and mod it to make it full time.

  • @HamiltonvilleFarm
    @HamiltonvilleFarm 2 года назад +4

    “You mash the gas”…you sounded southern when you said that 😁 proud of you!!!

    • @peterg.8245
      @peterg.8245 2 года назад

      You prefer “gun it” or “I’m gunna gun it”

  • @adamdnewman
    @adamdnewman 2 года назад

    Always something interesting with Wes

  • @NoName-yr1jv
    @NoName-yr1jv 2 года назад

    Excellent diagnosis Wes 👍

  • @99andrianmonk
    @99andrianmonk 2 года назад +40

    Nice job diagnosing the issue. Honda engines of this vintage had known issues with VCM causing rings to stick and resulting increased oil consumption causing low oil pressure leading to other internal engine issues. If memory serves me correctly there was a class action lawsuit that resulted in Honda issuing an extended warranty on these engines. Not sure I buy the owner's comment that oil changed regularly (whatever that means) given the overall condition of the vehicle. Bottom line - shame to see what is otherwise a reliable vehicle going to the born yard so soon.
    Only thing missing in your assessment is to have Max take a look at the vehicle and give his opinion. The look on his face in response to your questions is priceless.

    • @JosephArata
      @JosephArata 2 года назад +5

      Regularly can mean once every 6 months or year to most people who don't drive many miles. Doesn't matter if it hasn't driven 5,000-7,500 miles for the oil change interval for that particular year model. Still doesn't take into account the idle hours most minivans accumulate with waiting to pick up kids, or shuttling cargo/loading/unloading that they see. I agree, "regularly" is extremely vague and doesn't tell you squat about the condition of the engine.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 2 года назад +15

      Oil changed every 50,000 miles like clockwork, never skipped an oil change 😆

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +32

      15 years and 254,000 miles is a pretty good lifespan in our climate.

    • @danielburke8350
      @danielburke8350 2 года назад +4

      @@ferrumignis Whether it needed it or not! 🙄

    • @Troy_Built
      @Troy_Built 2 года назад

      @@WatchWesWork Body rust looked pretty good for IL. I live about three hours South and rust is pretty bad on fairly new vehicles.

  • @davidcolesr.8628
    @davidcolesr.8628 2 года назад +6

    You can’t Save them all Wes. Appreciate you having us along. I’ll most definitely catch you on the next one. Keep It Safe Out There Sir

  • @davedemo8229
    @davedemo8229 2 года назад

    yeah another Saturday video. I was out of stuff to watch. Thanks Wes

  • @infocpctrainer
    @infocpctrainer 2 года назад

    you cant win them all, you did the best you could, wish you were near me in UK so you could look after my cars. I can see why other shops send you the problem vehicles, because you diagnose it where they couldn't. Thanks for video, looking forward to next one.

  • @mrtoastyjr
    @mrtoastyjr 2 года назад +19

    15 year Honda tech, I’ve seen 2 things cause this problem. Aftermarket oil filters are notorious for cause this problem when warmed up, although it’s normally the 4 cylinders, but it’s cheap enough to try. I’ve also seen one time the screws that hold the oil pump cover plate on back out and cause it to leak. They don’t fall all the way out since they run into the main caps.

  • @brarautorepairs
    @brarautorepairs 2 года назад +5

    The oil pressure switch on Honda is set to something really low like 3 PSI. Also, the Single overhead J series V6 engines use a VCM version of VTEC which basically allows the rockers to free ride as they are no longer connected. The VCM ruins the back three cylinders because you pull oil into three cylinders with a higher than normal vacuum.

  • @rayp.454
    @rayp.454 8 месяцев назад +2

    From my experience, a bad oil pump will have low pressure all the time, whereas worn bearings will show change in oil pressure as the engine changes temperature (thermal expansion). Another great video Wes, Thanks.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 2 года назад

    You found it. It needs a new engine! It is what it is. Truly useable phrase here. Thanks for the look, enjoy the way you go about your work.

  • @johntremain8403
    @johntremain8403 2 года назад +6

    Since this was a "sudden" failure, I'd definitely check that solenoid operated valve outside of the system. If it's regulating the pressure, it might not be fully closing when it thinks it's closed, and the oil pump has no resistance to push against develop pressure.

  • @peteraitken6494
    @peteraitken6494 2 года назад +3

    Great job wes they can't last forever eh think they've had there money's worth from it time for it to retire I think great video mate take care man 🔧🔧🔧👍👌

  • @RexH00ligan
    @RexH00ligan 2 года назад

    Thanks for the journey Wes, it was entertaining even thou it EOL. Looking forward to seeing how you came out with the “Articfact”.

  • @Chr.U.Cas1622
    @Chr.U.Cas1622 2 года назад +1

    Dear Mr. Wes.
    👍👌👏 Very well done again and as always (video and work). No happy end you say? For me it definitely has a happy end because you found the problem! Additionally to thicker oil, I wonder if a new oil pump could help.
    Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
    Best regards luck and health to all of you.

  • @daveunbranded
    @daveunbranded 2 года назад +42

    I wish you could have tried some of those additives on that vehicle. Would have been hysterical to see if anything brings that thing back to life or at least more than 8 lb of oil pressure

    • @seanwieland9763
      @seanwieland9763 2 года назад +6

      The thicker oil to build up engine pressure in order to buy time to figure out his next move is a good suggestion. This car market is really tough for anyone on a budget right now. Finding any vehicle at a decent price depends pretty much on lucky timing. By the same token, Car Wizard up in Kansas has been seeing people spend thousands on old cars because the market for replacement is either sky high or non-existent.

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 2 года назад +3

      I'd suggest taking a quart of oil out (if it isn't a quart low already) and adding a quart of 90 wt.

    • @LAactor
      @LAactor 2 года назад +4

      Eric the car guy used some no name additive and it loosened everything up so well it started clogging the fine mesh screens to everything. Had to give her a whole new car. Maybe a better brand of flush would have been more prudent. Like Liquid Moly or just do a high detergent synthetic engine oil and hope that flushes it. Maybe some Ristlone. Some say use 20% ATF and the rest cheap oil and flush. No high revs. Some say 100 miles. Tough to say what's right. But it all seems a dangerous proposition to me. Especially in a very sludged up engine at these high miles.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 2 года назад +2

      @@seanwieland9763 how do we know it's not the oil pump?

    • @LAactor
      @LAactor 2 года назад

      @@tarstarkusz would that trip a trouble code via the ECM?

  • @philipr7686
    @philipr7686 2 года назад +3

    Heavier weight oil story from years ago. Minneapolis, a taxi cab owner would call into the overnight radio show. Like all cab companies, they bought old squad cars. The one car he had, they put gear oil in it for better oil pressure and it worked well for a long time until a uninformed mechanic put in regular weight oil and the engine blew.

  • @jamesmichael3998
    @jamesmichael3998 2 года назад +1

    GREAT job, I called it on this one my first guess was bottom end bearings, someone will probably put snake oil in it and clean it up real nice and try to pass it off to another and so on. Buyers beware. Cheers from Jacksonville Florida 🌞

  • @TheCrazy243
    @TheCrazy243 2 года назад

    Very interesting case study and mind blowing! Thanks for sharing!

  • @pb3033
    @pb3033 2 года назад +3

    That's a bummer...I think SMA had something like that..anyway you went the road,👍

  • @nhzxboi
    @nhzxboi 2 года назад +11

    Sounds like a dead cylinder? iVtec? Sounds like my brother's Accord that the little spring that returns the intake valve de-actuator broke. That thing ran terrible and smelled terrible. Take intake manifold off and see that the affect cylinder's intake port was full of gasoline. I'm no Honda expert but I did find that fairly quickly. That was a pretty quick fix...new springs. Honda dealer: New engine. New springs were quite a bit cheaper and worked well.

  • @Very_Angry_Citizen
    @Very_Angry_Citizen 2 года назад +2

    Your brain has an entirely unique ECM, bro. I'm not blowing smoke up your tailpipe either. Nicely done brother.

  • @robertbiggs4934
    @robertbiggs4934 2 года назад +1

    Excellent troubleshooting as usual Wes! The engine said enough is enough...sure can't complain about getting one's money worth though as evidenced by the milage.

  • @montestu5502
    @montestu5502 2 года назад +9

    That’s weird. It had over 50 psi when you first started it at idle so I figured the oil pressure was fine. Seeing it drop to 5 psi is mind blowing to me.

    • @kd7cwg
      @kd7cwg 2 года назад +1

      My 83 mustang would start out about 40. With a tired motor be at 0 hot idle.

  • @poolmotorrepairguyFL
    @poolmotorrepairguyFL 2 года назад +1

    Jay the Florida pool pump motor bearing repair guy When Service Calls Longwood approved ! that was good info 👨‍🔧 Wes

  • @craigsudman4556
    @craigsudman4556 2 года назад

    Wow DOA. Not what I expected but it is realistic, somethings just wear out. 250K miles! I thought I had put a lot on my old Ford Fiesta at 180K before it finally sighed and died. Great video Wes thumbs up.

  • @luisbatista1103
    @luisbatista1103 2 года назад +4

    Yay......The Code Whisperer 👏👏👏👏👏👍🇨🇦

  • @dans_Learning_Curve
    @dans_Learning_Curve 2 года назад +15

    Probably had a sudden oil consumption increase and it was ran low on oil. Someone refilled it, but didn't tell them, or, you're not getting the full truth.

  • @nashsmith3005
    @nashsmith3005 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video! I never realized the system those engines had i thought it was V-Tec. Those Honda engines are also expensive up in Ontario Canada too

  • @etsyjancoup6995
    @etsyjancoup6995 2 года назад +1

    Time to take it out to the barn and give it both barrels...
    I think I look forward to the next Wes video more than any other channel.

    • @lizkrinsky5209
      @lizkrinsky5209 Год назад

      Nah.... send it to Neutral Drop... hey stuntman!!! 😂

  • @annabelkatherine6441
    @annabelkatherine6441 2 года назад +14

    When it comes to investing, nothing pays off more than educating yourself with the right information from the right source. That's how you get rich.

    • @Scottlampert991
      @Scottlampert991 2 года назад

      You're right, that's why I invested into assets like cryptocurrency and some stocks

    • @Raymondablack832
      @Raymondablack832 2 года назад

      Stocks are good to invest on, but crypto is more profitable

    • @Johnclayton28
      @Johnclayton28 2 года назад

      I wanted to trade crypto but got discouraged by the fluctuations in price

    • @globalpandemic8450
      @globalpandemic8450 2 года назад

      @@Johnclayton28 You have to get more experience first, work with a professional like Mr Dave Jevans on crypto to guide you step-by-step.

    • @alexandersteven6484
      @alexandersteven6484 2 года назад

      I heard that his strategies are really good

  • @StopTeoriomSpiskowym
    @StopTeoriomSpiskowym 2 года назад +4

    2:28 you should check what type lambda is and how condition. sometimes it can be backward type. of course oil dust in exhaust is like rich low oxy reading by ECU and ECU begin to lean. hondas engine like oil

  • @davec9244
    @davec9244 2 года назад

    STP or 90 weight send it out the door good luck and a good job Dr. Wes you did it all but check the prostrate valve. thank you, ALL stay safe

  • @robt2151
    @robt2151 2 года назад +1

    Pity that watching Wes work wonders didn't work out this time but we all get the the end of the road eventually. As my old boss used to say, 'they were all somebody's pride and joy sometime", but that didn't stop him dismantling them.

  • @minnesotarc7964
    @minnesotarc7964 2 года назад +3

    I had a 1987 Plymouth Voyager (3.0L) and while it was a sweet panty melter, it leaked so much oil and horrible pressure I switched to 20W50 weight for the remainder of its life. It died on I-494 in Minneapolis. Fun fact you could move the distributor about 10 degrees left or right. Why you could move it so much and nothing happens to the engine was a mechanic stumper.

  • @eastunder55
    @eastunder55 2 года назад +11

    I'm not sure I understood correctly when you said $3500 to install a used engine. At today's car prices, I would go for the engine replacement and some wheel bearings and still be cheaper than replacing the vehicle.

    • @TonyRule
      @TonyRule 2 года назад +5

      @@dancarney106 Hold on to your wallets, boys. Used car dealer in the vicinity! ;-)

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +4

      Book value is around $3000.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 года назад +1

      Depends on what the underside of it looks like. If its clean of rust, a used engine might be an option. If its a crusty Northern 15 year old vehicle, junk it and move on with life.

  • @roxanneabbott8424
    @roxanneabbott8424 2 года назад

    Dont feel bad Wes, you probably can count on one hand the vehicles that couldn't be saved in all the years you've worked:)

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад +1

    Ended up doing valve cover gaskets and spark plug tube seals on one of these in a 07 accord last week popular engine in lots of Hondas these are good engines these 3.0ls @Watch Wes Work

  • @lawrenceengel3330
    @lawrenceengel3330 2 года назад +3

    Time for the straight motor honey 🤣👌

  • @arthurfricchione8119
    @arthurfricchione8119 2 года назад +10

    I have an 07 odyssey and when the oil pressure reaches I would say around 60PSI it activates the pin on the rookery arm to the other cam follower giving the cam longer duration. Yes they did have a recall on the cylinders shutting down causing the rings to foul up. And cause more problems. My daughter just drove up from Virginia in a 2010 pilot an when she got to my house in NY the lights came on and she was 31/2 qts low. Yes you have to use the right viscosity oil or it will fail. Mine and hers use 5W-20. Critical !

    • @rafmatt1607
      @rafmatt1607 2 года назад +1

      I have the i-vtec version of this engine in an accord. They changed the suggested viscosity from 5w20 to 0w20. Also, you can disable the vcm by getting the vcm tuner add on plug for the coolant temperature sensor.

    • @cmh2111
      @cmh2111 2 года назад +1

      @@rafmatt1607 Now its 0w16.

  • @nickpopelka
    @nickpopelka 2 года назад

    Another great video bud have a good one

  • @jaysonstoy3645
    @jaysonstoy3645 2 года назад

    you missed out on setting the oil pressure high with shop air psi and seeing if it would be totally fine. but diag was spot on. Great video thanks

  • @WhiskeyGulf71
    @WhiskeyGulf71 2 года назад +37

    Seeing all the seats missing makes me think of these car couriers who pack their cars full of small parcels & deliver for the likes of Amazon or some cheap parcel company.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +4

      Could be right.

    • @RyeOnHam
      @RyeOnHam 2 года назад +6

      The rear of the Odyssey fits 4x8 sheets of plywood perfectly, too. It makes a fantastic work van. I used a Dodge Caravan for hauling just about everything. With a tarp in the back, I could fill it full of anything. I drove from Alaska to North Carolina with about 2,000 pounds of cargo. Bottomed out a lot, but made it just fine.

    • @ronniewilliz153
      @ronniewilliz153 2 года назад

      @@RyeOnHam did you ever have any issues with misfires. I think my mom's has a worn out cam lobe it keep sticking the injector open too

    • @RyeOnHam
      @RyeOnHam 2 года назад

      @@ronniewilliz153 everything else on the Dodge caravan wore out before the engine. To radiators 3 AC compressors about 10 blower motor resistors. This was a 3.3 l 2001. Sold it for scrap value.

    • @ronniewilliz153
      @ronniewilliz153 2 года назад +1

      @@RyeOnHam hers is a 03 an it's got 175k on it I think an that's wild you say that she's stayed on top of things with that van since she got it at 135k an have had issues with the engine the rest of the van is great lol had a small leak from the ac tho. I'm think it's got a worn out cam lobe tho I'm about to go out an do the timing belt an water pump on my kia Sorento

  • @TonyRule
    @TonyRule 2 года назад +4

    Oooh goody! A _'Watch Wes Work'_ notification. Time to have a shower and sit down with a scotch (it's 1am Sunday here, not 8am Saturday, before someone tries to horn in on my mother's racket).

  • @butler386
    @butler386 2 года назад

    Thanks for all the checking of sensors etc. But you can't fix them all at a reasonable rate. Thanks for the video.

  • @dfusit
    @dfusit 2 года назад

    Take her out back and put her out of her misery. By the looks of her she’s led a rough life so it’s time. She had a good run but now her time has come. Good video Wes, your diagnostics and explanations are top notch.

  • @stevenlatham4397
    @stevenlatham4397 2 года назад +8

    Do you like that M12 right angle impact? I have 2-4 amp and 2-6 amp batteries already. I have been debating on buying one; I trust your opinion. You’ll be at 200k subscribers soon, you deserve 2 million.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +7

      I just got it. Haven't really used it much, but it seems handy for certain things.

    • @InsanePacoTaco
      @InsanePacoTaco 2 года назад +3

      Since Wes hasn't used it that much, the Torque Test Channel did a video comparing these right angle impact drivers: Makita LXT, Milwaukee M12, M18, and Skil PWRCORE 12. (March 4, 2022)
      Edit: they also have a video on the M12 Fuel impact wrench from Aug 13, 2021
      (Not affiliated with them in any way, just like what they do and how they just give you the facts)

    • @stevenlatham4397
      @stevenlatham4397 2 года назад +2

      @@InsanePacoTaco I watch all of TTC’s videos, they are fantastic, the best tool videos on RUclips in my opinion. I was mostly curious about the usability, I’m not doubting the power.

    • @dieselhatz4247
      @dieselhatz4247 2 года назад

      Warren over at Western Truck and Tractor Repair uses Milwaukee impacts, including the right angle. Those things are used everyday, all day, in some nasty conditions (almost desert like to snow), on JD, Cat, Peterbilts, Freightliners, all the heavy stuff. If I wasn’t invested already, I’d go Milwaukee.

  • @jamesgasper8630
    @jamesgasper8630 2 года назад +6

    Ive had a couple oddysey and pilots where i had issues wjere the vcm set similar codes. Changed oil and it resolved it for a little while. Sometimes a chunk of garbage gets stuck in the port or the vcm spool valve. Otherwise put some thicker oil in it and send it lol

  • @jogmas12
    @jogmas12 2 года назад

    You did your best Wes.

  • @calholli
    @calholli 2 года назад

    WOw.. So my 2002 Acura MDX with 3.5L Vtec was the perfect find.. because the very next year is when they first released the VCM crap. So I dodged a bullet on that one. It's fully decked out; 3 rows of Leather seats, moon roof, heated mirrors/ seats. new tires all around. Only 155k miles and I got it for $1700. lol... Not a single dent, zero rust, not a single drop of oil.. It's incredible. What a steal, I can't get over it.... I still wonder if it has had a timing belt change or not though

  • @jeffs2809
    @jeffs2809 2 года назад +3

    Would be interesting to see if heavier oil and/or some snake oil additives would make enough of a difference to keep it going a little longer.

    • @Troy_Built
      @Troy_Built 2 года назад

      It probably would've brought the oil pressure up but newer engines rely on that thin oil to make those Vtec and cylinder deactivation systems work.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +1

      I have them the option. They pulled the plug.

  • @MH-wg6bz
    @MH-wg6bz 2 года назад +10

    worn engine, a higher viscosity oil might get them get a few more miles, I'm surprised that there isn't an easy way to check engine oil pressure, especially when it's critical to proper valve control. Honda surprised me on that one.

    • @JosephArata
      @JosephArata 2 года назад +3

      Bean counter engineering solution. Why use 2 oil pressure sensors, when you can use a switch for the low oil light, that doesn't come on unless the pressure is 0 PSI. Then get your oil pressure reading from your Variable intake/camshaft solution. Have to save those .50 cents per sensor on cost when you're making millions of minivans with the same engine for a 5-8 year period.

    • @lolatmyage
      @lolatmyage 2 года назад

      Maybe they expect you to rely on data from the _oil pressure sensor?_

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +6

      Everyone does it now. Even Ford has a fake pressure gauge.

    • @FishFind3000
      @FishFind3000 2 года назад +3

      @@WatchWesWork they have a gauge but it’s only relays on that switch. Pressure never moves, always the same. It’s just on. I kinda wish it could be converted to a real gauge.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 года назад +5

      Thick oil might be a bandaid, but that engine is just worn out. Even if you attempted the bandaid, you might have to find a way to disable the cylinder deactivation to prevent it from cutting fuel from the rear bank. Waste of time messing with that engine in my opinion.

  • @MinisterofDOOM
    @MinisterofDOOM 2 года назад

    I laughed at the lanyard on the ODBII connector. I've left a couple in random cars and completely forgotten about them until later. That's a great idea.

  • @SM-98
    @SM-98 2 года назад

    You have really good skills!

  • @regunter6599
    @regunter6599 2 года назад +5

    I have noticed the more expensive a used engine is seems to be inversely proportonal to the quality of an engine. If an engine is really a great engine then there will be a bunch of them in salvage yards and no one needing one. If a used engine is really expensive, unless it is a high performance engine people will put in for the performance it usually means the engines are breaking more often than cars being wrecked to provide them.

    • @blake8297
      @blake8297 2 года назад

      Typical supply/demand...

    • @csorrows
      @csorrows 2 года назад

      You are right about it being an availability thing, but it's not based on the quality. These engines are swapped into other things a lot.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад

      I dunno. LS engines are super cheap and everyone swaps those.

    • @daverahn1711
      @daverahn1711 2 года назад +2

      You heard it here folks, Wes is going to LS swap this honda

    • @johnbize5736
      @johnbize5736 2 года назад

      @@WatchWesWork There's an idea; LS swap this pig!🤣🤣🤣

  • @alwayshungry24
    @alwayshungry24 2 года назад +9

    my old Chevy had 5lbs of pressure but it sounded like a box of ball bearings had been dumped in her then silence and an extra vent hole where a piston tried to escape lol

  • @stevenbastian3882
    @stevenbastian3882 2 года назад +2

    We all get shaved by Occam's razor once in a while, even Wes, who is a logical thinker and relentless pursuer of cause.

  • @mischef18
    @mischef18 2 года назад +1

    Well that is a bugger especially for the customer bro but the good thing to come out of it is you know it's a waste of time going any further with that engine and makes ya wonder why this was not picked up at the previous garage. Anyway it made for great viewing. Safe travels

  • @trashandtrail
    @trashandtrail 2 года назад +3

    I'd be curious what oil analysis finds in the oil. Any efficacy to a leakdown test at this point?

    • @csorrows
      @csorrows 2 года назад +3

      Bad rings/valves is not going to cause low oil pressure so a leakdown test would prove nothing. Low oil pressure is typically caused by worn bearings not holding the oil in. More than likely the crank.

    • @trashandtrail
      @trashandtrail 2 года назад +1

      @@csorrows Right but that would tell you rolling in new crank bearings might be a worthwhile hail Mary save.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 года назад +7

      I think all we can do is bring in the casket...

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 года назад

      It has low oil pressure, leaks everywhere and has a light knock. Its done, DUNE, done🤕

    • @trashandtrail
      @trashandtrail 2 года назад +1

      @@WatchWesWork here in Oregon they converted a VW bus to a depository for remains. I hate to think of what the future holds for our generation.