Buffy's got a new job! 🥧 Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 3 episode 1 "Anne" Reaction & Commentary
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I really loved how Buffy gave Lily that little boost to start on a better path. A job, a safe place to stay and 3 weeks of breathing room before she has to pay rent can be life changing. I know someone who work with kids and young people that have little to no family support and having someone care enough to help is incredible.
Sometime's it is all people need.
Totally agree
You can tell that this was filmed in the late 90's because a single waitress can apparently afford her own apartment...
Correction: You can tell this is a fictional television show. Even in the 90s a waiter/waitress could not afford their own apartment.
@@eyelesspotato2189 especially a 17-18 year old who never had a job, and somehow have money for a deposit and other expenses.
Well the apartment was in the ghetto, Im sure a waitress could afford a studio apartment in the ghetto today.
In LA!
@@disneytoysr4fun975No not without getting ever deeper in debt.
"Victims don't fight back! That's how this works!"
Just so.
The swooping camera crane shot on Buffy is one of the great Hero shots. She is pure Slayer incarnate: a whirlwind of violence and fury unleashed; outnumbered, alone and completely unafraid.
The swooping camera is the best there!
"You mustn't blame yourself for her leaving."
Whyever not? Remember "this is insane; you need help"? Remember "if you walk out that door, don't even think about coming back?" Did you think that wouldn't have any effect? Do you not know how "kicking your own daughter out of the house" works? Now you didn't know the trauma she experience, that much is true but you made her believe she had no place to come back to. And that's totally on you.
That is an unforgivable thing for a parent to say. I had to work pretty hard not to hate Joyce afterward.
@RedMenace71 all I can say is...she got better.
@@RedMenace71 The "If you walk out this house, don't come back" quote and variants of it used to be so common in media back then whether it was drama or comedy. I feel like people react stronger to it now than they did back then.
TBF to Joyce in that situation, she had a ton of information dropped on her out of nowhere with no time to prepare. Nothing was particularly explained to her, and her FIRST priority was to keep Buffy safe and to try to fix the heavy situation that surrounded her at the time, which included being accused of possible murder. That was a very overwhelming moment for a single parent that already had to drastically alter her life because of a previous unexplained incident. So while her ultimatum was intense and inappropriate, it does make sense that she would go to an extreme to try to keep Buffy from going into danger, given the info she had to work with at the time.
Giles actually does share some of the blame for how some of that played out by never considering informing Joyce of the situation Buffy was in as a slayer, and it says something about The Watchers Council that they intentionally try to isolate young girls from their parents/support systems, but that's a topic for another time.
@cajah88 There are reasons why Joyce wasn't told, but that would require spoilers from Season 6. Those reasons do _not_ paint Joyce in any better light.
This episode always stuck in my mind, I think because of the stranger danger message and the idea you can lose your youth in a moment of weakness. Seriously, don’t trust a stranger on the dark street that is trying to relate to you. He might be wearing a button up, but that doesn’t make the person wholesome.
I love this episode and especially the development of Lily/Anne. Chosing the name Anne for herself to be the person who she identifies it with: someone who can take care of themself and cares for others. I think her story is quite powerful.
You mentioned the hammer and the sickle as weapons… while fighting demons that make you work your life away…
Buffy stands with the proletariat! 😂
Want to see my impression of Gandhi?"
"Gandhi?"
Buffy played the original Civilization games.
The original Civilization games would have been out by then (released 1991), but the urban legend about Gandhi only started in 2012 on TVTropes. So this is probably just a coincidence (but maybe the original post on TVTropes was inspired by this)
@boghag no, it was a phenomenon that people who played the game recognized very early. I was playing the Civ games in the late nineties, and my god did Gandhi love his nukes. I think 2012 was when they finally told people why Gandhi was so pathologically violent, but people absolutely knew he was well before then.
Chantarelle/Lily/Anne is probably my favorite buffy subplot
One of those plots that you really dont expect from a show on that age of television, side characters like that are always one ofs
28:15 actually they are in a hell. There are many hell dimensions in the Buffy universe, and this is one of them.
I really like this episode. The topic of getting lost and hell and hope are well handled.
So many iconic moments, from the gang fighting without Buffy to Joyce and Giles conversation, to the dream sequence and the "going through your files" joke.
Its an amazing start in my opinion and honestly, i think this season doesn't disappoint in comparison.
When i saw this episode for the first time i was in a really bad place emotionally and it helped me out a lot. It holds a special place in my heart.
I love that we see Anne again in Angel and you can tell the effect that Buffy's gesture had in her life.
Spoiler alert, please! - Maria
@@TheBuffSummer sorry, didnt know you were also doing Angel
Chanterelle/Lily/Anne is a really underrated arc, I think, im the Buffyverse. Especially rewatching now as an adult who's lived (and to an extent still living) paycheck to paycheck and had to jump between sleeping on friend's couches in my late teens - early 20s. It's just a great example of the good Buffy does, sometimes without even fully realizing. She saved this girl twice, then got her to help save others in a moment of crisis, and most importantly act to save herself.
the continuous shot from giles n willow until cordy n xander meet is so cool n well done props to whoever directs unless it was joss
i have a headcanon that ricky ran into lily and buffy bcos some part of him knew to look for lily, that they could make him forgot himself but not her, which does make it way sadder but also sweeter
I like this episode.
Chantarelle, Lily, and now Anne!!! Buffy continues to change her life for the better.
I feel like Joyce projects her guilt of onto blaming Giles so she doesn't have to deal with all the truth Buffy said of "you still haven't figured it out," aka her not knowing her daughter, and kicking her out. I get why Joyce is upset, but I feel it is all misplaced issues/guilt. Also, in the origin comic, the movie, and the movie's original script Joyce ignored her daughter and only started parenting because when Buffy got in trouble for saving kids at her former school's dance and accused of the damage because she couldn't explain why she caused said damage. From the start of S1, Joyce has shown moments that prove she is skilled only at taking care of a newborn despite Buffy being sixteen. Thus her misplaced issues on Giles. She may love her daughter, but she has a ways to go before she catches up to where she should be on parenting.
Best lines and moment: "Breaking into your office and going through your private files." "What's with all the sin?" "I'm Buffy, the vampire slayer. And you are?" "In case we die." And the moment Lily interrupts Ken's villain monologue by pushing him from the walkway. I never really thought the Ghandi joke was funny. Just odd. Different brand of humor, I guess.
You missed Little Miss Sunshine.
@@spamfilter32 With all the names she has I was bound to miss one or more.
Totally agreed about Joyce
32:30 love that Scene, turns out humans do fight back. Once someone has shown them they can.- And that's what we see in Sunnydale too. The gang has learned to fight and thus keeps fighting.
Loved that you guys caught that Lily and her ever changing name…. let her significant other get a very permanent tattoo of her impermanent name. This episode also makes me kind of sad because it just shows that Buffy can’t escape being the Slayer. She just wants a break. In season 1 we saw that, and we see it again here. Her destiny always catches up with her. Fun fact: the weapon she uses is called a Hunga Munga or Mambele. It’s an African weapon.
They have had garlic in the show. When Angel went bad Buffy had it hanging next to her bed. Doesnt seem to do much.
The show follows the school year pretty closely. The new season would air in September when school starts and would end just before summer. So the time between seasons is the summer breaks.
I loved the shot of Rickie dumping the coins on the table and asking what they could get for this. Very reminiscent of the movie where Pike does the same thing.
I love this Buffy Vs Capitalism episode. Not even subtle with the hammer and sickle lol
Buffy vs Fascism, you mean?
@@TheMrsWatcher kinda both in this depiction
The hammer and sickle would be symbols of communism and Russia, not capitalism.
Season 3 is my favourite Buffy season. So much to look forward to with some of the best episodes of the whole show to come. I’m excited to hear your thoughts.
Regarding time jumps and the like, the show tends to be kinda real time, so the season will start in Sept/Oct and the season finale will be around may. unless otherwise stated its best to assume there around a week between episodes
Buffy had a lot of time to work on her punning on patrol alone with no critics to hear the bad ones except a vampire she dusted. Willow will get there with the quippy one liners. She’s just got performance anxiety.
I feel the same way about Season 3. It's definitely my favorite -- for a lot of reasons we can't get into now -- even though there's another season that I would probably consider "the best."
I think season 3 is the Buffiest of seasons, and Anne is my favorite opener of them all.
Note that Lily doesn't say "can I call myself Anne," she says "can I _be_ Anne?" Like, do you, Buffy, think that I could become someone capable of taking care of myself and helping others like you do? And yes, Buffy believes in her, which helps her believe in herself.
You noticed she had a hammer, and a sickle, and was liberating workers whose lifelong toil was alienating them from their own identities...
Nice catch.
i dont get it
nevermind i looked it up and its some nazi symbol thing.
@@disneytoysr4fun975 Hammer and sickle--the symbols of communism AKA the party/viewpoints on the opposite side of the political spectrum from capitalism, which is what the hell dimension in this episode may or may not be an allegory for. Buffy was using the tools of communism to fight against the metaphorical capitalistic demon dimension
Especially funny since communism leads to working like that more often as they are taken over by dictators lmao
I’ve always thought “wanna see my impression of ghandi?” has the exact same energy as “you know what happens to a toad that gets hit by lightning?”
You might already know this but, the toad hit by lightening line from X-Men sounds so random because some earlier lines that would have given it more context got cut at the last minute for some strange reason.
This is what I always imagined hell would be like; and I also wondered what would happen if I refused to cooperate with demonic tormentors: Jump in the lake of burning fire? No, YOU jump in the lake of burning fire.
My favourite season of Buffy, featuring my favourite episode of Buffy, featuring my favourite Buffyverse character. *5x5* 😉
buffy does have a thing of garlic cloves in her big box of slayer stuff and also communion wafers (curious abt what those do to vamps lol) but she never uses them as far as i know lmao (another headcanon those were actually for joyce n they just had a spag bol that night)
They did show garlic hanging on the walls when Angelus was tormenting them.
the gandhi joke is a callback to the gang marveling at her skill at punning.
Fun fact 31:18 the axe they used is a real historical weapon that had to be modified before using it on screen because it had a phallic shaped blade on it before they removed that part.
Joyce has convinced that anyone but herself is to blame for Buffy leaving
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@@krose6451 Plus what?
@nightslayer6951 its a short hand was of saying you agree or back the comment as replies tend to help boost comments along with likes so they show up higher in algorithms laying out of them.
@@krose6451 Oh
Love that she's fighting off sweatshop slavers with a hammer and sickle
Don't have a tone to say about this episode except that I really like it. I especially love the lack of subtlety with Buffy leading the workers in a revolution to overthrow management while fighting with a hammer and sickle and the sickle itself looks like the hammer & sickle hence why it looks weird.
The Ghandi joke is hilarious. Her evocation of his philosophy of non-violent resistance...followed immediately by maximum violence. 😂 Its like shes saying "I'm done being peaceful and ready to kick ass".
I feel like the "Gandhi" exchange was a placeholder zinger and Whedon couldn't think of a better one in time.
That makes sense. I always figured it for a call back to Willow struggling to quip and showing Buffy struggles to 😂 but writers struggling to think of a quip makes much more sense
@@krose6451
really? it's an obvious callback. i have no idea how you can think it's a failing.
Theres multiple "hells" in the Buffy universe. Not sure theres a "The Hell" persay. Remeber Angelus opened a a hell when he awoke Akathla.
I hope "Anne" continues on this positive journey.
Something no one seems to notice, he (Ken?) said that while a hundred years passes in the other dimension, only 1 day passes on Earth. Buffy might not have been gone for more than a couple weeks before going to the alternate dimension, and in the short time she was there the whole summer passed by for her friends.
Good show, good episode, and pretty good reaction, well done you two.
Also, the Gandhi reference, one of the writers played Sid Meir's Civilization. It's a legendary gag that has been kept in the games. Short description, all the AI had aggression levels (0 - 255), Gandhi was India's leader and aggression was set to zero. When the technology Democracy was unlocked and implemented all AI had their aggression level lowered by a set value. Gandhi's value being zero, the computer would move it to 255, max aggression, and late game India would be going HAM on everyone.
Thanks for the reaction, hoping everyone has a great day/
Hope you guys have a great time with Season 3!
I just signed up for the Buffy tier last week. I always wait for these and they make horribleness of my Monday better.
Thanks so much for joining 😊 we appreciate the support! - Sam
@@TheBuffSummer I've watched you Sam with Steph, but really feel for Maria's journey being Eastern European Slav (Polish) myself now living abroad, though due to way less dramatic circumstances. The fact then you two decided to go through Buffy probably the most important show from my formative years and till today, is just an amazing cherry on top of your content, so I decided to finally take the plunge. All the best to you both, and keep them coming ( minding any creator's burnout etc) :)
@lillimarq Sorry for such a late reply. We’ve been making more adjustments and that’s taking up so much time that I’ve had trouble getting here. Finally, though 🙏🏻😊
Aww thanks so much for your support! ✨How’s your experience living elsewhere?
Glad we’re doing it! I love the show, and I love sharing it with Sam and all the beautiful humans tuning in for premieres and watching later wherever fits ☺️
We’re working on it, loving it and definitely being mindful of the burnout. At this point, we need to work every day to be able to keep the roof over our heads, but we’re hopeful for the future where we can make all the content we want and rest, and do other things and are joyful and nourishing 🙏🏻✨ - Maria
@@TheBuffSummer @Maria I live in UK , which is worlds apart from Poland or Ukraine, but not as hot as Australia I guess (feeling it A LOT atm as am visiting BF's parentals in Thailand so getting aircon down to 29°C is an accomplishment). Still the hustle is real. The way the 90s, 00s TV showed the West and capitalist society it seemed quite more affluent and with material goods readily available, and they are you just need to be wealthy yourself, or work all the time, which it feels like I do. The shock of yes, the wages are higher, but so is the cost of living was quite hard.
Still your journey was so much more dramatic! I was glad you could get out- via Poland no less 🇵🇱. Hope your family is also ok? Do you have them close by? Hope you do. ❤️
I'm now signed up to your Patreon Movie and Buffy tiers, so just hoping to enjoy watching stuff with you both, despite the recent saddening changes. Buffy rewatch is always a good nostalgia run.
Btw have you seen Dollhouse and Firefly ? Do you love them too? X/Justyna Tenel
PS. I too am very timely in my responses lol
Let's GO season 3 🎉❤
Bummed I'm going to miss out on the premiere of my favorite episode S03E02 but phyched were finally at my favorite season.
I absolutely think that Joyce is right. The Watchers showed up in Buffy's life and instructed her to keep an enormous secret about her life and identity from her parents. "For their own safety" - what? That doesn't make a lick of sense. If anything, it puts them in more danger because they can be both ignorant and used against Buffy at the same time but because they don't know anything, they don't even know to wear a cross.
My theory is that Buffy was discouraged from informing her parents because there was a real chance they wouldn't have allowed her to just go out at night and slay, at barely fifteen. At the very least, her parents would have been able to monitor and have a say in how much danger she was putting herself in. Kendra's parents gave her up to the cause because it was a part of their culture but Joyce and Hank are modern, well-educated people who don't get another daughter when this ones dies, unlike the Watchers who don't care about the lives of these girls because they just keep popping up.
And these lies ensured that not only Buffy didn't have any adults in her life protecting her and prioritizing her, it also ruined her relationship with her parents, which is why it came to the point of Joyce saying the (admittedly bad) things she said in the finale of the last season.
Giles, as the Council's proxy, is absolutely at fault that Buffy felt she had to distance herself from her own mother, and not just go stay with her father if she needed to avoid her life for a while.
Yep, I kinda hate how people view joyce in that scene. She is absolutely right at blaming a grown man who had this mentoring secret relationship with her daughter and actively distanced her from buffy by forcing this secret. When you take the fantasy out - and Joyce nows very little about the supernatural at this point - this sounds REALLY bad
thank you SO MUCH!! Joyce hit it on the nose when she called Giles out! In fact she was too kind because he actively told Buffy to lie to her and keep her out of the loop. I don't care if he didn't make her the slayer, he DID guilt her into risking her life and fighting demons. She very well could have ignored her calling and lived a normal life if he didn't push her back into the slayer lifestyle.
In any other context, the Watcher's relationship with the Slayer resembles the classic groomer technique. And, based on what little we know about other Slayers and/or potential Slayers, some Watchers may well have crossed the line into actual grooming, and the next line as well. Giles's character has to be so straight-laced so that it's never something that we, the audience, consider a possibility, which helps diffuse the ick-factor. (And I do mean diffuse, not defuse.)
@@menachemsalomon Giles is built so well that people dont even consider the icky factor. Joyce should definitely consider it
@@menachemsalomon yep, the slayer before Buffy was actually in a relationship with her watcher.
After too many watches and focusing on weird details... brain goes "wait, aren't ALL humans bait anyway when it comes to vampires?" 😂
Seasons 3 and 5 are always in contention for my top spot.
36:45 At this time doing arcs was not that common and they wanted to get back to the status quo.
Yeah, I’m pretty certain they are in “Hell”. In the Buffyverse, there are all sorts of hell dimensions. 😮
Wow, I didn't think you would be starting season 3 right away and I thought it would be just next sunday. It's still gonna be on sundays, right? Anyway, such fun to see your reaction and this might be my favorite premiere of all the seasons.
Yep, straight into it 😄 We did post it on Sunday and we’ll keep posting it on Sunday. Did daylight savings kick in for you? That might’ve impacted things, but it would still be roughly an hour difference, so I’m a bit confused.
Great to hear that! It might be my favourite one as well 😊 - Maria
For a long time for m season 3 was the best. Lately I can’t make up my mind between this and season 5. A lot of good stuff yet to come!
A lot of vamp shows and movies ditch the garlic now, some of them still don't like garlic because it makes the blood taste funny but Idk if these vampers are the same hahah
Ahhhh L.A ... A Demonic cesspool 😂
I personally think S3 and 5 are the best story wise, 4 may be a mess but has a ton of fun episodes, but S6 hits most home for me because the struggle is very real for me in that one on a personal level.
This episode kinda reminds me of the story/episode from Dungeons & Dragons (animated series) City at the edge of midnight.
I think Season 3 for is is 2nd best behind Season 5 with Season 6 in 3rd place.
Welcome to one of my favourite season! S1 was campy, S2 was a good start and idk why, but S3 is just so good. Not my favourite but very close ❤.
Season 3 is the perfect high school era season. The show is complete by this point. I still have season five as my favourite cause to me thats the perfect buffy as a whole season, but I totally understand those that love the early part more
@@AnatoleVGC When I started watching season 3, I was in 8th grade. I related a lot to it in a way I guess. If I really had to chose, my season ratings would be 6,3,5,2,7,4,1
@@PsychoElou666 I love 6 but cant rate it that high cause I think 6 and 7 have some weird plot holes and writing occasionaly. My order would be 5, 3, 7, 6, 4, 2 and 1. I know it looks weird but I try to rate the season as a whole and season 4 has amazing one ofs even though the over arc kinda sucks, while season 2 has amazing over arc and awful stand alones that take a huge part of the season
Season 3 and 1 are tied for me but them I really dont mind camp lol
9:15 Steve Irving?
Carlos Jacott, the Fed from the Firefly pilot. Joss loved working with him, so used him a lot. Joss claims (not sure if he was serious) that his fight scenes were difficult as he would keep apologizing. Carlos also became a writer on Psych! I loved Psych!
I had issues with this episode. I felt the despair/I am no one was a bit beating me over the head. I never thought the Ghandi joke was funny.
The guy in the doorway in the red shurt and vest that Buffy confesses her sin to (sort of), is stunt coordinator Jeff Pruit. We used to be friends until he left the show and made a mess. That's a story for another day.
I don't know if there is an actual hell in the Jossverse. There are various hell dimensions. This is one of them.
Right after the msin guy grabs Lily with the knife and Buffy is fighting four guys, three are down a d she tosses the fourth off the platfirm, he clearly lands on a pad. The entire pad is visible and it moves as a stunt pad does when he lands on it. The corners puff up from the impact. I don't think I have noticed that before.
Julia Lee hasn't been in very much a d nothing on Wikipedia since 2016. I thought she was good. A random fact I learned, in 2007 the character of Constance in both Disney Haunted Mansions used her as the face/body midel, but a different actress voices the character.
I don't know which I like more S2 or 3. They are the two best. I won't rank the rest at this time. I do tend to rank S1 much higher than.a lot of other fans though.
Back when Whedon only had had three shows, Jacott had an episode on each, so he did the hat trick.
@@HuntingViolets I was avoiding spoilers by being vague. LOL
@@johncampbell756 Is it a spoiler that he was in three shows? I didn't even name the shows.
@HuntingViolets I think that determination should be made by them.
I am not much of a Barbie fan (never introduced my daughter to it, either), so when I think of Ken, it's Carlos's face that comes to mind.
I do wish they’d used Buffy leaving to expand the scope of the show. Like maybe she does stay away but Giles and Joyce catch up to her, but she can’t come back because there are other threats.
I❤ This Episode!😱😢🫣🧛♂️🔮💗🖥
This was never one of my favorite episodes (though I’ve grown to like it more over time) nor, if I remember correctly, is the next one.
Season 3, though I love certain characters, episodes & moments, is the weakest of the Buffy series for me. Which, a “weak” Buffy season is still honestly phenomenal & better than many other shows in general, this one was just never my favorite.
Still looking forward to what’s to come ❤
Suggestion! Put the name of the episode in the title..? Xo
Thanks for the suggestion 👍🏻 We don’t do it as it’s making the very long title even longer and in a lot of cases won’t fit at all, but it might be good for search.
We thought putting in on the thumbnail might work well too - Maria
@@TheBuffSummer I think putting it in the thumbnail would be great. 😊
@@TheBuffSummer Maybe just "3.1" instead of "season 3 episode 1" would shorten it a bit too. Just a suggestion.
@@HuntingViolets good idea 💡
@@JackiePearl Thanks.
These are 90s gen x fashions, get over it. This show was highly fashionably cool for the time. Stop shitting on everything.
Not really. A lot of the wardrobe was bad even when this aired.
@flossy7258
It’s both gen x and gen y fashion, and we’re both gen y, which shouldn’t even matter in the context of commentating on fashion, but since you mentioned 🤷🏻♀️
It sure was stylish, and I like and use a lot of the elements from it - Maria
Or maybe if you dont appreciate that part of the commentary think "not for me," save your energy and move on to something else rather than leaving a rude comment? Remember, its a free video and even if you dont like something remember other people do. Plenty of people love the fashion critique and have even asked for a video just to do with that.
Actually Garlic is in Buffy's Slayer Chest in season 1. If it is effective they don't use it much.
I believe willow uses it in her bed when Angel turned bad.