how a WIND VANE works (in depth but cool)
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2021
- Watch this if you ever wondered how the wind can move the rudder of a heavy displacement boat.
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I just recently found out that wind pilot is a brand. When I say wind pilot I refer to a generic wind steering system. Sorry wind pilot.
Thanks for that visual explanation. I’ve decided to add a wind vane to my Southerly 135, but as I am building the solar arch I thought I combine the wind vane support into the arch, and it occurred to me that I can build the lower rudder part permanently in to the sugar scoop step in such a way that the shaft between the top surface of the step and the solar arch can be removed when it is not in use, and would other wise be in the way. I had to make these choices before I lock in the solar arch design so that I have built in the ability to add the wind vane parts later on. I am a huge fan of slewing ring bearings which are just machined stainless steel parts with the balls added through a hole (think crane hooks). The upper part should be easy to rationalize, it is fitting the Hydrovane, the bit in the water that will require some thought on how to put the vane in place and remove it without getting wet.
So thanks for that. I now have a bit to think about. I design on Shapr3D (runs of iPad Pro), a system that is perfect for boaters, for any one who is wanting to fill in their days at sea being productive.
Hope all goes well, seems like an interesting project :)
We’ve retrofitted the arch after. Messed up and had to re-weld 😂
"and you and me - we're the same" lol!! I wish. Alex, I have known some very smart people but the skill to impart knowledge in a way that 'us ordinary folk' can understand is possessed by only a few - you are one. Had an inkling there was more to the package than what was on show when Blue was first saddled up. Well done.
What an exceptional description and demonstration! Congrats, well done. Tell Mandy that there really are people out here who enjoy and learn from your great ability to break down the intricacies of systems and explain them concisely in layman’s terms. I wish I’d had university professors as good as you!
You've made it....a 'physics' video. Love love it!! Ax
PHYSICS
I learned something thanks
excellent... So simple but so misunderstood...
Very interesting video, it's like a pistol, simple machine but very fascinating function.
Thank you so much. Very clear explanation.
Thank you for this video, I got the overall idea, but have always wanted to know the specifics
You’re welcome, glad you found out :)
Thanks for this! Wow, what a piece of engineering! In another life - mid-1970s, in my twenties - I sailed down the west coast of Europe, Gibraltar, Canaries - in winter. Little 25-foot wooden sloop. Then across to Barbados. Our self-steering - we called him Rastus - had no water power whatsoever. Just a big 3/16-inch plywood wind vane blade, lines from that to either side of the tiller. Remarkably, it performed quite well, even downwind in the trades. We must have done a good job balancing the sails!
Many thanks for that very detailed information. As a non sailor I have battled to try and work out the mechanics but never "got it" I am now fully enlightened and fully understand the mechanics thereof.
Regards from South Africa
Great explanation. I've been watching your videos since the first lockdown as I couldn't leave the house but you guys showed me the world. Thanks.
Thank you Alex, that was a great explanation and good use of graphics. Keep up the good work and enjoy your sailing 👏👏
..... thx for explaining the workings Alex .... the simplicity is rather staggering for something so reliable .... also couldn't help noticing that there is nothing amateurish about your productions be it sailing & travel or informational ... well done ..... thx for sharing .... as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ....
Two very good videos with great graphics and explanations. Our last boat had a Hydrovane and there is no doubt in our minds it is the best for all the reasons and points you have made. Sail Safe Guys, Ant, Cid & the pooch crew.
amazing piece. so simple
Genuinely brilliant video - I’ve always wondered how wind vanes work but never actually got around to working it out. Now I know 👏
Best explination ever!!! 14,2 times better than Hydryvanes own video ;) Fair Winds!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching :)
Wow, fantastic explanation!
I have read about how they work, but it never really clicked until you showed it with your great visuals and clear examples.
Thank you!
hey thanks for your interest in the topic :)
Excellent segment or what can be a very challenging upgrade. Your up front planning, preparation and execution help to demystify the solar, controller and lithium battery topics. I appreciate the quality of your workmanship it really says "this was done right". Although most of the segment featured Alex, Mandy was close by for suggestions which were received openly and available to provide a helping hand when required. Very nicely done thanks.
I suspect you have a a very decent grasp of the science related to this.
Thought your graphics helped explain.
Clearly one needs to understand the dynamics of sailing and coursing to obtain the benefits of this incredible addition.
Great job on install and trying to get me to understand
Best to you and Mandi
Great video!!!
Excellent explanation. Clear and to the point. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
My favourite part is the explanation that Alex might not know what he’s talking about, then he clearly knows what he’s talking about.
The equipment is very nicely explained.
😂
Nicely Done, as usual!
Thanks 😊
That was an EXCELLENT intro & breakdown for me personally. Well done....I've liked and subscribed and look forward to catching up on previous and future episodes!!! Man.... do NOT stop with these in-depth and thorough episodes!!!
OK, I'm sold. Now all I need is a boat to put it on.
😂 first things first
Thanks. That was a very informative video on wind vanes. I liked it. Good job S.L.L.T.
I'm sure I will forget all the fantastic explanation by tomorrow. Will watch it again tough..
Just make sure you’re prepared for next week’s test
Thanks, really helpful. Well done for preparing the graphics as they clarified a lot.
Well done Alex. A great presentation. Now all I need is a boat to put it on ha ha. :-)
Enjoyed that!
Really cool! Thanks for the in-depth explanation. 🙏
Your videos about the Hydrovane have generated much discussion on various sailing forums. I'm planning to install one when I'm waiting out hurricane season this fall.
wow, we should be more aware of those forums 😅 where did you find it? Hope the video helped in planning the install
@@seethelittlethings The videos have been incredibly helpful. Thank you for doing them. I've had people suggest these videos on the Facebook pages "Liveaboard Lifestyles" and "Bluewater Cruisers."
good video
OK, I see we have hit TWENTY THOUSAND. Congratulations my friends!!
Thanks Mike 😘 happy to have you around to share each other’s little wins
@@seethelittlethings It’s a privilege to be part of the journey my friends.
Thanks for yet another nice video - keep 'em coming.
Great content STLT well thought out and well presented, quality. Thank you for taking the time and investing the effort to educate us... Would enjoy buying you a beer or two.
Well done as usual 👍🏻
I love Your channel always have great informative and useful information. Thank you, keep them coming and Gpd bless!!
Thanks for the video - a few videos back we were discussing these and this video (plus your install video) has pretty much covered everything i've ever wanted or needed to know.
great video - thank you
Another awesome video 🎉
Thanks for a great, comprehensible video on this magical device! Nice job describing the physics. Thanks again!
Great explanation! Keep doing what you guys do, very enjoyable and informative channel!!!
Very well organized presentation * * * * *
Very cool video! Explaining this process and how a windvane really works (& helps you become a better sailor) NOW makes more sense to me!
Keeping being awesome yourself!
All the best Richard
Great! Mission accomplished :)
A very informative and interesting video. Hopefully it makes crossing the Atlantic a breeze for you both.
very well done
A proper video!.. to bad you didnt make cad files:)
Very Very Good episode guys.
* applause *
Worthy of a million views ....
Thanks Chris !!
@@seethelittlethings hopefully get to cross sails with guys in a couple months if you cross the pond to the Caribbean isles. I’m splashing in a few weeks headed south to tailgate Delos
Great explanation - thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice info. I wish I could build a mini version for my Hobie Island (small plastic sailboat). Unfortunately, there is a lot of lee helm, and there doesn't seem to be any way to prevent it...
Good 😁😁
Think in terms of leverage and torque
nothinh to add :) Good DIY or HiW (how it works) :D
This is a good video lesson. But I probably missed a few classes! So my question is how does it work with trying to maintain your course over 100's of kms. Do you constantly have to monitor your course to stay on track? I was probably sleeping in class when that one was taught.
Yes, you have to check course regularly and adjust according to what’s best in regards to weather routing. On our crossing to the Canary Islands we adjusted course to counter swell and deviated from our direct course to our destination. Sometimes it’s better to keep the boat at its preferred wind angle, sometimes it’s better to adjust course and then point of sail as well. Wind angle changes regularly so we need to adjust sails and vane angle once or twice a day
@@seethelittlethings Thanks! keep up the nice videos!
Here we go! Going in....
You asked for it
@@seethelittlethings Alex does very well to explain some physics without being snobby and his enthusiasm for this solution is communicated very well. Mandy, it's your turn.
🤣
Thank you for this. Can someone explain how this is better than an electric/servo autopilot?
I appreciate the video. My problem is the installation. Let me know when you have a few days free to fly to the States to help me. 😀
Really cool !!!!!! ..... Now I got it why is better to resource nature and not human ... Erare humanum est!
Great explanation of how a hydrovane works!
From prolonged watching our mesmeric hydrovane in action, across several ocean passages, I’ve convinced myself that the counterweights also come in to play when waves move the stern, as the hydrovane seems to adjust the steering very rapidly when quartering waves take the boat. Do you think this is possible, or is it just the apparent wind direction changing ?
Really good video. Probably not as popular because of no bikinis but great explanation, you must be an engineer of a programmer.
Only the best Project Manager to ever roam this planet 😁 probably cause he gets the engineering parts of the projects. Unfortunately for our previous employer he prefers to work for himself. Naja now we get to make our followers happy!😬😁
Great video Alex. An excellent break down of form and function of your newest crew member. Did you guys ever decide on a name for it...him...her?
I been thinking about off centered installation, wouldn't it cause asymmetric rudder input? Turning in one direction requires less rudder input than other side. Wouldn't it cause boat to drift with time. To be honest, I've seen off centred installations on boats that have successfully crossed Atlantic & Pacific oceans (Sailing Bacchus home). So it can be done.
Makes sense if put into exaggerated perspective (imagining it 10m off center outside the boat, but negligible when moving it to either side within the possible mounting options +- 1m from stern center
Hello, do you think it would suitable for a 28 foot full keel Sailboat? I liked the Hydrovane because of the rudder system. Thank you.
Thank you
With this type system do you need to run the steering lines? Thank you
No attachment to / fiddling with primary steering
great video. do you lock your wheel and rudder in position once you engage the wind vane?
Yes, before. On our boat we always have some weather helm and lock the rudder at 3-6°
Great video! I would call it wind vane instead of "wind pilot" which is another well known German brand and believe me they have a history about how the windvane should be :)
Ha yeah I found out in hindsight ;)
If you and me are the same, when can I sail with you?
Very interesting, thank you very much. Do you have an Adress where I can order a Hydrovane for my Boot? Greetings Michael from the BlueSky
Hey Michael, best to get in touch with Will and Sarah hydrovane.com
Hello . Great video.
I follow you guys from the beginning as we are prepping our jeanneau 36 for a big trip .
I am.planning to fit a hydrovane could you please tel me wat is the the height above the waterline top of the vane .
I am fitting solararch this summer and want no obstruction in the future
Thanks and congratulations for the new crew member 👶
Hey Mario. It is different since you can mount different poles and vanes. Also, you need to make sure you can turn the vane 360 without stainless obstructions. Best to get in touch with them, they can send you the measures for the combination of items you need. Also best to first install the vane and then the arch around it
@@seethelittlethings many thanks . I wil do .
Great to see how you two evolve in your experiences. Its already a long way since you guys dit your first steps .
We sail mainly in the English channel northsea . Normandy and South England.
Planning for circumnavigation 2024 /early pensioners 👩🦳🧑🦳
hopefully the world is back ok by then .
Can it work on my 32foot Trimaran?
Great.And how much it cost ,full set?
Best to look at the official price list, since it’s semi custom for each boat hydrovane.com/prices/
Oh no...A wind pilot...you're suspended till next week.
Would you repeat that. Just kidding.
3 weeks worth of videos about a windvane? C'mon guys...