BREGUET Type 20 Chronographe 2057 & BREGUET Type XX Chronographe 2067. The saga continues!
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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The year 2023 brings a new BREGUET Type 20 and BREGUET Type XX. This is a new generation of chronographs powered by an all-new calibre. Four years of preparation preceded the arrival of the new generation of iconic Type 20 and Type XX watches, this time, issued in two versions to meet all expectations: one military-inspired (Type 20) and the other drawing on the finest civilian models (Type XX). Taking cues from the first-generation models, Breguet has instilled a contemporary, dynamic and technological spirit into these watches. The Type 20 and Type XX saga clearly shows no sign of petering out!
The new Calibre 728
After four years of development at the Manufacture Breguet, the brand is delighted to present the new self- winding Calibre 728 for the civilian version and Calibre 7281 for the military version. Combining robustness and innovation, this movement and its variant are protected by several patents. It incorporates all the designs of a modern chronograph such as a column wheel, vertical clutch, 5 Hz frequency as well as an innovative zero-resetting activation system. Alongside these elements, it also benefits from the latest technical innovations in the field of chronometry (precision timing). The balance-spring, the escape-wheel and the pallet-lever horns are made of silicon. In addition to being resistant to corrosion and wear, silicon is insensitive to the influence of magnetic fields and improves the accuracy of the timepiece. Moreover, this self-winding chronograph has a 60-hour power reserve. Both models are equipped with a “flyback”. This function is a precious asset for pilots, replacing the three operations previously required with just one. Different times and directions that require evaluation are easily handled using the “flyback” function. These innovative activation and zero- resetting systems have been designed for crisp and accurate use. Whatever function is performed, the pressure felt on the pushers will be even and balanced. The same applies to the vertical clutch mechanism, which has been adopted for the accuracy of its activation. The chronograph hand thus starts instantly without any initial jerks. To make the movement robust and guarantee its precision even in case of potential impacts, a cross-through bridge was chosen to secure the balance in place. Sized in such a way as to occupy a maximum of the available space within the movement, the barrel - the energy source - is equipped with a spring whose high-energy-density material enables a longer power reserve. Finally, this new movement’s other asset lies in its aesthetics, as significant work has been done on its decoration. In addition to the sunburst pattern, snailing, bevelling, circular-graining and other visible decorations on the components, Breguet has treated the column wheel to a black DLC treatment that heightens visual contrast while improving tribological properties. The sapphire crystal caseback provides a chance to admire the details of the movement, including its blackened oscillating weight shaped like an aircraft wing and engraved with the Breguet logo.
TYPE 20 CHRONOGRAPHE 2057
Case: steel
Diameter: 42 mm
Thickness: 14.1 mm
Lug-to-Lug: 49 mm
Dial: black
Water resistance: 10 bar (100 m)
Calibre: 7281
Movement: self-winding
Functions: chronograph, “flyback”, date, small
seconds, 30-minute totalizer
Balance-spring: flat, in silicon
Escapement: inverted straight-line lever with silicon horns
Frequency: 36.000 A/h (= 5 Hz)
Power reserve: 60 hours
Components: 339
Strap: set of two interchangeable straps, 1 in calfskin leather, 1 NATO fabric
TYPE XX CHRONOGRAPHE 2067
Case: steel
Diameter: 42 mm
Lug-to-Lug: 49 mm
Thickness: 14.1 mm
Dial: black
Water resistance: 10 bar (100 m)
Calibre: 728
Movement: self-winding
Functions: chronograph, “flyback”, date, small
seconds, 15-minute and 12-hour totalizers
Balance-spring: flat, in silicon
Escapement: inverted straight-line lever with silicon horns
Frequency: 36.000 A/h (= 5 Hz)
Power reserve: 60 hours
Components: 350
Strap: set of two interchangeable straps, 1 in calfskin leather, 1 NATO fabric
Price each: 17.500 CHF (incl. VAT) /18.900 Euro (incl. VAT)
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Alexander your reviews are the best. Thank you for probably being the best you tube channel out there
OMG 😳 what a compliment!!!! Thank you so much!!!! The best possible content for the best audience in the world… 🙌🏼
Alexander you make the best watch videos. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing our passion, love your comment!
Thank you very much for the review. Great watch and personally I like the civilian version more than the one for military use. I do not understand why everyone complains about the date . It does not bother me. The overall look is mega. Unfortunately not my price range ;-)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! Thats what In explain in the video... the date is a matter of taste and there will be also a non-date version available...
Beautiful watches. The new movement looks sharp and has excellent specifications. I am quite relaxed about date windows. Some are religiously opposed to them, in all cases. Others will claim (genuinely) that they don't mind them, depending on the execution. Others will (disingenuously) claim that the execution of the window is the problem, not the presence of the window itself, but really they just use that as an excuse to criticise a watch they simply don't like, cannot justify spending on, or perhaps cannot afford at all (i.e. they were never in the market for the watch in the first place). I have to admit, this date window execution is one of my least favourite, but I just don't think it ruins the watch. It's still absolutely stunning. Perhaps a future no-date release will please those who genuinely like the watch but just wish it had a cleaner dial. Tastes can be very different! Thank you for bringing another great video for us Alexander. 🙂
Love your comment! I so much agree with you and I thank you for sharing! Tastes and wallets are different ...
The date window is absolutely horrendous. In my opinion a chronograph should never have a date window, makes the dial to busy.
Did you hear what I said in the video about the date?
@@WatchAdvisor Yes, I did hear you! They Should have the type XX without a date from the start, but clearly they don’t understand their own history of the type XX! All the purist hate this new Type XX, and the type XX purists are the main potential customers. And for that money I would buy a Speedmaster 321! But to each their own.
Still, the more commercial version is the one with date... it was a strategic decision...
I totally agree. The date window is hideous. It’s a primary reason I wouldn’t buy this watch. Get a JLC Polaris Chronograph or a Rolex Daytona instead.
I may never afford a Type XX. But the date window is very odd.
I commend you for helping me to enjoy getting a better understanding of what makes this such an iconic piece. Thanks and God bless
Love your comment, thanks for sharing!
@@WatchAdvisor you’re welcome. I enjoy the clear, concise, insightful approach and charming manner in which you review watches.
@@paulburns6110 Thanks for sharing our passion!
Tolle Uhren, vorgestellt vom Uhren Professor Alexander. Danke für diesen Typ. Lg
Und das Lob kommt auch noch von "Roger Federer" 😜 Wie soll man sich da nicht freuen? Danke dafür!
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Great video. Your video quality is always amazing. Thank you for sharing our thoughts on the date. Is that blackened weight gold? Also, it is a massive credit to Breguet for having the watches available at time of announcement.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and your kind feedback! It is gold - yes! They told me which one, but I forgot…
The date window is weird. But I am glad that you have highlighted that there will be another version without it. I will wait for it. Thank you Alexander for another great review.
This is the more commercial version… a majority of potential buyers looks for one…
I loved the new Breguet Type 20 so much, I purchased one. Absolutely love the watch. No negativity from me! 👌
Thanks for sharing your passion with us! Which one did you buy? May your Type 20 continue to always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours!
@@WatchAdvisor Thank you! I purchased a new Breguet Type 20, Model 2057 on the strap. Love it! 🥰
@@ac0rn75 That would be my choice too… Congratulations!
Very comprehensive presentation, thank you.
Thanks for sharing our passion and your kind feedback! Any thoughts about the watches?
Great video! I love your content! I currently don’t own a chronograph and have been leaning towards the Speedy because of the thickness of most automatic chronographs. The Daytona is ideal but I’m still waiting for the call. Which leads me to price. I don’t think the TypeXX is overpriced, it’s just expensive with no upside if you decide some day to dump it. I don’t buy a timepiece anticipating its resale, but tastes do change. I’m going to grab a Speedy and wait for the call from my Rolex AD. Glad to see Breguet back in the Chronograph game! Thanks again for all your work!
Thanks for sharing and you kind feedback! I’d still recommend you to check the Type XX and 20 out… you never know… 😉 keep us posted please…
Beautiful, love it! One for me, but without date. Have it in sight for quite a while. Thanks for presenting, Alexander.
Please keep us posted!
Alexander, as a retired USAF F-16 pilot, I like the civilian model! But 1:55 2:10 I'd like to buy both! Have the Super AVI lineup. Love your passion and insights 😊
Thanks for sharing your passion with us and your kind feedback! If you have any questions let me know and please keep us posted… 🙌🏻
Setting aside the storied history of Breguet, is there a compelling reason to chose the Breguet Type XX for 3x the price over the almost identical (and arguably more attractive) Breitling Avi 42 Mustang?
I hear you! I am sure you know: tastes are different!
@@WatchAdvisor Certainly, and I fully support people buying what they like and enjoy - I personally just don't see the value of this watch relative to other very similar watches at a fraction of the price, nor do I have any interest in the new IWC Ingenier (though I appreciate other IWC watches).
I always enjoy your videos, keep up the good work!
@@CaptCanuck4444 Straight forward… without mincing words…
Great review! I would like to point out that the 15-minute counter of the XX (2067) is a REAL 15-minute counter. This is in contrast to the predecessor (Ref. 3800). Both the 3800 and the new 2067 have the same minute counting dial layout. However, the minute counting hand on the 3800 performs one full rotation in 30 minutes, not 15 minutes. This also means that the 2057 and the 2067 have different gear ratios on the minute counter. You could have dropped a few words on this interesting little detail. P.S.: The 15-minute counter on the 2067 is the reason why the hour counter has four minor ticks.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and your remarks! I wasn’t aware of it too… As I always say: WatchAdvisor has the best audience in the world … 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Excellent review Alexander! I just ran into your video about this beautiful piece.
To my eyes, Breguet made an almost perfect aviation/traveler’s watch. The civilian version has a couple of very useful functions that would benefit me as a constant traveler. Easily being able to track a second time zone with the outer bezel, counting down time to events, and even timing things with the chronograph. Furthermore, with a 100 meter water resistance, it appears to be a watch that can take some “real world” abuse!
The only things I wish they would have added; white gold to the Roman numerals and hands, and a folding clasp. Other than that, they’ve hit the mark..
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and passion with us! You pointed out things I didn’t even think about yet …. great!
Thank you for this review.
Our pleasure!
They are both nice pieces but I like the Type 20 as it's just a little bit easier to read. I'm surprised the mil-spec doesn't get the bezel with the hour gradient but I love the milled coin edge. And speaking of love… I love the slight hint of birdsong in the video! It's charming.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and your kind feedback! I can't decide in-between one of them yet...
Great video Alexander. This is a really attractive Pilots watch and like you, I would prefer without the date, but in these days, the majority of buyers need a date, so that doesn’t actually bother me in the slightest. Something for me to save up for as I am into Pilots watches and military watches in general.
Once there is a deep blue dial without date available, I will buy either the Type 20 ore Type XX ....
@@WatchAdvisor Absolutely. Blue is the perfect colour.
@@JamesAlexander14 A matter of taste of course … but I am fan of blue … 😉
Fantastic presentation Alexander! You've really made the watch come alive and it is very valuable to have your insider info that a no date may be inbound..! I've been looking forward to these for years, but I'll need to see them in the metal to judge the size, date success and lume colour. But Breguet have certainly include some remarkable features and I think an all new, ground-up, auto, waterproof flyback was beyond anyone's expectations. I wonder where this leaves Blancpain's Air Command? That seems to have stalled while this project rolled on.. and on! I'd love to see some new Air Commands also - a really tough choice between the two.
That’s called being spoilt for choice… thanks for sharing all that and keep us posted…
The new Breguet XX watches are beautiful, but there are mixed opinions. Some feel the original size would be more suitable, and the date window's new position is unfortunate. The price is also significantly higher, causing some hesitation among buyers. Despite the controversy, the watches still showcase Breguet's craftsmanship and elegance. Personal preferences will ultimately determine their appeal
Tastes are different… that’s all… all Breguet watches are exceptional and unique…
Great presentation! Love both of these very much, and agreed with many here about the date window feeling like a design afterthought, and should have sat at 6:00. I appreciate seeing these quick release straps using normal spring bars. Wish my Cartier Santos had this. The price is a showstopper for me, but I’m not surprised for the brand with all the new R&D in the movement.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and your kind feedback!
As always, the video on the watches is great. However, the watches themselves are lacking in some major areas. Besides the obvious criticism of the date window, they're also far too big and thick, the cut off numerals are not necessary (and accentuated by the date window), and the price is much too high in light of the minimum decoration of the movement (one of the primary reasons to by a high horology brand like Breguet) and lack of the signature coin edging on the case. The apparently now discontinued Type XXI models, particularly the 3187 are a much better package and value.
Hopefully subsequent models in the new line will address these issues (and the Swatch Group starts providing Breguet and Blancpain with the marketing and support they deserve which may justify the increased prices). Until then, I'd rather purchase a Longine Avigation Big Eye for a fraction of the price, and use the balance towards a Breguet Classique or Tradition.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and your kind feedback! The new XX/20 chronographs are now loyal to the original design … I personally find that great and I can’t wait to see what is next… the fact though that many here, including you, compare Breguet with Longines tells us that Breguet should do some real efforts to communicate how GOOD and unique these watches are…
@@WatchAdvisor Watch has terribly neglected marketing and support for both Breguet and Blancpain. With respect to the new Type XX's, if they were really loyal to the original design, they'd be much smaller, thinner and cheaper. Breguet is charging high horology prices, but the finishing is bare and Breguet just doesn't have the level of cache it used to and the Type XX was never really a high horology watch. I believe Breguet mostly balanced things properly in the now discontinued Type XXI.
I hope you're right that there two models are just the start of a wider and more diverse line, and Breguet takes the comments of enthusiasts as constructive criticism.
In any event, keep up the good work and I look forward to future videos.
Great insights, Alexander. I too will wait for a version without the date, and hopefully also self-winding. That should shave close to 2 mm off the case height. Then Breguet will have a total winner on its hands, and on my wrist.
If they add a deep blue dial combined with bright white hands… this will mine then…
Love the military version especially on the nato. For me I prefer with the date complication. Exceptional informative presentation as usual sir .
Military nato on a 20000 euro watch?!...it's a joke
Another nice job, Alexander! Could you advise if all the watches of this Type 20 family will be presented in the Pilot Style? Or might Breguet modify the dial design and hands to be more in the motorsports style- just wondering? I especially like the coined bezel edge- simple yet elegant. Thanks for another great presentation!
The basic design will most likely not be modified… technical variations will be driving factor, not the design…
I must say I like them. They are different from the older 3800 series which is more elegant and dressy. But very nice. I would buy the Type 20 when they release it without the date. (That really spoils the dial). Do you have any plans to tour the Breguet factory? I enjoy your factory tours.
No plans with Breguet so far… but this is a good input… thank you very much…
Give me the new Longines flyback over these all day long and far more affordable.
You can also choose a Skoda over a Bentley … Yes, the Skoda is a very, very good car and much cheaper … you will even find parts of a Skoda in a Bentley and vice versa… that’s what we call platform strategy … but a Skoda will never ever be a Bentley … same applies here for Longines and Breguet…
@@WatchAdvisor Yeah but you'll not find many Bentley owners wanting a date window stamped in the rear door...
@@auxiliary4023 Be a little patient… Breguet will also introduce a version without date… by the way I mentioned it twice in the video…
The Type 20/XX is part of the history/the heritage of Breguet ... this type of chronograph is sought after by aficionados, amateurs, collectors and new potential buyers ... Breguet will earn good money ... So please tell me what's wrong?
Yes, you can get something quite decent from Longines "Avigation Big Eye" but the devil is in the details, especially with these absolutely superb Breguet models. Think of these as a much more luxurious version and they fly in a total different class.
If these were a little smaller they’d be gold
What size are you writing about?
I need the black one
Please keep us posted!
The military version can be a 12 hour timer by moving the bezel bug to the starting position of the hour hand. It's then easy to infer how many half hours have elapsed.
Unfortunately, while the civilian version is fine, the military minute timer becomes an estimate in the dark. I think I prefer the military one's cleaner dial and simpler hands overall, but it would be a nice choice to have.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! The Type 20 version is puristic… less is more… the Type XX although it offers more to see on the dial and bezel still is a puristic chronograph IMHO…
That Date window just kills me. Sorry but a detail like that speaks volumes about Breguet‘s design/Product team and whoever gave the greenlight on this should have been replaced. SAD.
Still, the more commercial version is the one with date... it was a correct and good strategic decision...
@@WatchAdvisorhow do you know it was the correct decision? Do you have numbers to back it up? Do you have any research that says date windows increase sales? The Daytona is the most successful Chrono ever and guess what? It never had a date. Neither does the Speedmaster. This proves my point that accountants are making decisions at Breguet, and not pure designers. It has become about maximizing sales and not truly caring about designing the best possible product.
@@ermir4444
Judging from the comments, this guy HATES criticism and is a snob for expensive watches.
I think it's best to just let guys like this be. I don't know if he truly is as wealthy as he presents himself to be, but let him live in his bubble.
Ist immer eine Freude wenn ein neues Video rauskommt. Danke ❤️lichst Mr. Alexander. Nach Jahrelangen sparen konnte ich mir meine Omega Speedmaster Moonphase kaufen in der Wiener Boutique im 2019.Meine einzige Uhr. Wird niemals verkauft. Ist das Erbstück für meinen Sohn. Meine nächste Traumuhr : Breguet Type Xxi Transatlantique Flyback Chronograph❤️❤️❤️
Gratulation und danke für das nette Feedback! Möge Dir Deine Speedmaster auch weiterhin glückliche Sekunden, Minuten und Stunden anzeigen…
Yes, they may release new versions in the future, and personally I don’t mind a date window at 4:30 position as long as it’s properly designed. Unfortunately, in this case the date window is way too conspicuous to the point of cropping the 5 numeral.
The dial design was given through the vintage pieces… IMHO the designer could only fit it in as it is…
Bring on a version with NO DATE, I'll be a buyer
It is in the pipeline….
Great review Alexander, as always!
Any idea if they will provide the same caliber in a watch of a smaller diameter?
I have no idea 🤷🏼♂️ but these are things I will find out step by step…
Nice piece my only problem is the size 42 mm is too big needs to be 40mm to fit my wrist...but I'll go to the AD to see how its looks on my wrist.
Thanks for sharing, please keep us posted...
Just when I made my mind about getting a Speedmaster... I guess I have to save a bit more😢
What a passion! Love it! That’s quite a jump from the Speedmaster… keep us posted please…
No date would be much better.
There is one coming…
Horrible date placement, fake lume is too much and the price too high. Very lazy effort. Breguet destroyed the Marine and now they destroy the Type 20. Sad to see such an iconic brand take such a hard fall.
Did you watch the video? You should! What you wrote is just not true ... your statement is apparently issued for other purposes ...
@@WatchAdvisoryes i did watch the video. I cannot comment on watches that are not released yet but i can comment on these 2 watches I have just seen: They look just awful. I hope they do fix it with future releases but this first execution is very lazy. Now if they remove the date, remove the fake lume and resize the 15 minute counter to not cut into the numerals, then I would be a buyer. Until then, i remain to the opinion that these are horrible.
@@ermir4444 Thanks for letting us know you watched it... some just write...
I think the watch is just so horrible that i just bought the military version. i’m going to hate every minute of wearing it😂
@@paulgoldstein9002 Love your comment! Bravo! Congratulations! 🍾 I can hear you suffering … my sympathy … 🤣 May your Breguet always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours!!!
I own 2 Breguet Marines 5517 and 5817 which i love. But these models... i am not a fan at all. That hideous date + movement finishing looks sub par for Breguet
They are part of the brands history/heritage... the design (without the date window) is gorgeous and the chronograph itself stands out since it is much more luxurious/better/cooler than all the other artificially hyped ones...
What color is the NATO strap on the XX ??? Great video & Thanks.
Can’t you see this on your screen? Are you watching the video in black and white?
@@WatchAdvisor What I should have asked is 'Does the XX have the same black NATO strap as the Type 20 ?'
FYI - Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think 'nato' is pronounced with a long "a" as in the NATO organization. Thanks again.
Yes, both NATO straps are identical…. And they are matte black…
Expensive, very expensive, too expensive !
What should be the price in your opinion?
@@WatchAdvisor difficult question, especially nowadays with those prices increase for many models. But to me somewhere between 12 and 15'000 CHF I guess
Breguet is a high end luxury brand…. Other rules apply… you can’t sell a Bentley for a price of an Audi… and the brands you compare are “Audis”…
@@metropolitan6C Are you talking about/referring to shares? A watch is not a share, an investment… Buying watches should always be EMOTIONAL and never 👎🏼 RATIONAL… Just my two cents…
@metropolitan6C If you really mean it, then forgive me if I say: You lack self-confidence!
Hi. Could you tell me how is the Titanium Yachtmaster heavier than 36-mm Oyster Perpetual? I would like to buy a lighter one of these two. Thank you very much!
We didn’t weigh them… but for sure the titanium YM is the lighter one…
@@WatchAdvisor Thanks very much!
Why the date? It makes a beautiful piece look awful.
It is the most commercial version and as a manufacturer you want to sell… a version without date and many other variations will follow step by step…
@@WatchAdvisor I hope so. If they relase a no-date down the line I'll definitely get one (and also the increase in size isn't an issue for my wrists).
@@martinogold There will definitely be a version without date… I am waiting too… 😉
Trust me, with the date on the same color as the dial it's barely noticeable i.e until you need it.
@@albertofourie3294 I've actually been hands on with this piece since I commented and I can conclusively state that that date is even more glaringly obvious and out of place in person.
It completely messes up the symmetry of the piece and constantly draws the eye.
It is just truly awful.
Hi. May I know the anti reflective coating is apply on the inner or both size of the sapphire crystal?
On both sides for the front sapphire crystal and “only” on the inner side for the one on the back side…
@@WatchAdvisor wish breguet just keep ar coating on inner side of the sapphire crystal. It look more classic and same like what omega do on their heritage model. Without ar coating is one of the benefits prevent ar coating peel off easily.
Coating both sides is of course a matter of taste … but you have less problems with such a coating than you think…
@@WatchAdvisor You cant win Alexander. If Breguet only did one side of coating guess what ? Why didnt they do both sides.
@@paulgoldstein9002 True, very true…. 👍🏼
Date Windows 🙈
Did you listen to what I said in the video about the date window?
No man...this is a Longines with a Breguet's wording!....there are no ideas and beauty...and the price?!
Please dont insult Longines. The Avigation big Eye is far prettier than this abomination that Breguet has created.
Gentlemen learn history!
@@WatchAdvisor We dont need to learn history, we are witnessing history being made as we speak i.e. current Breguet management destroying the greatest watch brand to ever exist. They better teach this in school on how to never manage an iconic brand.
@@ermir4444 For some here, no matter what Breguet does or doesn't do, it just isn't good enough. There sure are a lot of armchair CEO's etc. who seem to have an immediate answer and split-second reaction and fix time for everything that hits Breguet. You guys should put your keyboards to action and apply to Breguet. I bet your tune changes to a different song. And you should also let us know who you really are, explain your background etc. … actually you are hiding your identity behind “emir4444” and it is pretty boring not to know whom you are talking to/exchanging thoughts with here…
@@WatchAdvisor You are exchanging thoughts with a humble collector who loves Breguet the brand and wants it to do better. May I ask who am I sharing my thoughts with? Are you an independent journalist or a spokesperson for Breguet? You defend the brand blindly when for someone who has a pair of functioning eyes can see how downhill this brand and its products have gone. Design has gotten worse, finishing has gotten worse, price has increased. They have lost their prestige and constantly lost in marketshare to rivals. Numbers speak for themselves. Once the greatest brand in the world, is now not even top 20 among swiss watch manufacturers. You are not doing them any favours by defending them, and certainly you are not doing any favours to you independent journalist reputation.
On the Breguet website these two have steel bracelets - I prefer the steel bracelet.
Good choice… for you… tastes are different… I would prefer a nice color matching fabric strap…
@@WatchAdvisorA steel bracelet goes with anything - fabric - not so much.
I don’t like bracelets… 🤷🏼♂️
I'm waiting for titanium one
Will not be among the first ones to come next though…
@@WatchAdvisor Then do you know something about next one?
Nato strap is the most obnoxious, ugly thing I whole horology. Never could understand what's the appeal of this horror.
Tastes are different! 😜
Breguet wants 20k for a non precious metal watch - geez who do they think they are Rolex lol 😂
What a meaningless comment! 🤦🏼♂️ Learn history and to understand who really is who in watchmaking…
Yes. If one learns about these watches and the brand, they are so much better and also much more exclusive than the more mass produced great Rolex.
@@WatchAdvisor $18k for nom PW is a little out of line. This is a very simple watch.
@@vijaymehra1101 It is a BREGUET! Please try to understand the brand….
@@WatchAdvisor you can get a JLC Polaris for 12k new.
Type XXI (3817ST) still a better watch, especially at current pre-owned price. Gold rotor, nicer dial, coin edge case.
Tastes are different… I think the contrary is true … the new ones just stand out… are simply perfect… once the no-date version will come to the markets there will be long waiting lists ….
movement is totally different mate...this is a 10hz flyback with over 5 patents and 60 hour power reserve, vertical clutch. Not the lemania based "haphazard" flyback that broke all the time.