Thank you a thousand times over! I wasn't going to do this because it tends to be a rabbit hole. But it's great and I can't thank you enough for what you've done what you are doing and what you're probably going to be doing!😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
Excelente video me fue muy util. Yo recien jubilado a mis 65 años y quiero incursionar en este hobby, agradezco tu colaboracion para principiantes como yo sin esconder nada, brindando todo tu conocimiento. Nuevo suscriptor tienes.
Hello Andrej, thank you for this video! It was very informative. I'm just wondering... I don't have the "Bind" track on my Radiomaster TX16S Max. It is up to date with firmware for Edge TX and the 4-in-1 module. I even installed the US-guy tracks but no "bind"... Where did you get it?
I have so far these Heli's: 2 RC ERA (c138 Bell 206 and C 190 H145 ) 1 Eachine E120 all with optical flow and the two XK's K123 and K124. The XK's fly a lot better than the other helis, with the Radiomaster TX16s or the Jumper T16, Edge or Open Tx (Futaba protocol). The C138 Bell 206 flys better than the C190 and E120, maybe because channel 3 is Pitch and Throttle together. The Eachine heli is actually a rc era model.The stock Tx is the same and on the electronic board is printed RC ERA. I flew the C138 with the C190 stock TX (the grey one) and when lights flash because the battery level is low, the TX is making an alarm sound, so there is a hidden telemetry channel. Except the channels 1,2,3,4,5 and 16(bind) the channels 7 and 8 have some effect on the model (I have to investigate). There is one switch channel on stock RC ERA radio.Is on "position" down throttle trim, the debugging mode. When this channel is activated (TX's red light flashes), you can trim aileron and elevator and the "position" rudder trim is active, in order to increase or decrease the main rotor pitch, aka the main rotor rpm. (Higher pitch means lower rpm and vice versa). They say that optical flow is also deactivated. Lower rpm on main rotor means more scale flight, but less responsive main rotor, I don't know if there is an effect on flight time. When you deactivate the channel, the trims position and the main rotor rpm are stored on model's flight controller and optical flow is on again.
Hi, thank you for your comment. Yes, the XK helicopters are equipped with the FC that offers 6g and full manual mode, and indeed have better flying characteristics. I hope the RC ERA will offer this kind of FC capabilities in their otherwise fantastic helicopters. All that they really lack is FC with full manual mode capabilities.
For me, it was in debug mode with channel 12 at any value (-100, 0 or 100), and I was able to adjust A and E trim on channels 7 and 8 all the time. I will check on channel 9 in the air to see if it adjusts the head speed. I guess this means the optical flow sensor is off? I wonder how to get it out of debug mode.
@@xXxCobraCommanderxXx Great news. So far we need the stock Tx, in order to trim the heli. So we must transfer to the radiomaster the following: a. The debug channel (a switch channel )and a way to know if is activated the debug mode or not. b. The pitch channel that trims the main rotor rpm. (it is on rudder trim on stock Tx. So actually the rudder trim is fake on stock Tx, because the gyro holds the rudder steady). c. The telemetry channel that beeps the stock TX (grey color), when heli's battery is low. Sorry, but Iam not able to test because I overheat and burn the receiver on heli(I can tell from the smell), after 2 sequentially flights, on a hot day (38o C) and ended low rpm on main rotor (max load and stress on main motor). What do you think?
Hi Andrej, I setup the heli but when I move the sticks to check how the 4 channels are working I get a delay. Also when I'm checking the sticks the blades move robotically in stages. This doesn't happen when I check it with the stock transmitter. Any thoughts? Thanks Jeff.
Andrej, i believe it's still not the full function/setup of the stock radio, trims and debug functions are still missing as well as the stock trim behavior Also setting expo can quickly be done by applying it on the input page instead of the mixer page, but hey there's several ways to skin a cat with the amazing EdgeTx. Great video anyways as always
@@siredwarddimaguila True. The debug function doesn’t work on the multi protocol radios (I have not found a way to activate it with the TX16S yet). For that you still need the stock radio. So, my advice is - use the stock radio to properly trim the helicopter in debug mode and save the settings. Then you can fly just fine with the multi protocol radio (I see no need to trim the heli frequently). Thank you for your input.
Thank you Andrej for your awesome video, i really appreciate your relaxed instruction and laid back vibe. Will you be doing a video on how to add the Flywing and the YuXiang models to the TX16s Have you done a video on how to upgrade the module on the TX16s, i have the eachine version. Any advice 🤔😅
Hi, thank you for your comment. Yes, I have not included the flip function in this video because I have not tried to set that up yet. Maybe I will try that in the near future and if I will be successful in setting that up I can post a video at some point. Greetings from Slovenia.
Great share sir!. May I ask, why your Throtle on Chanel 1 (is it must be on channel 3 ?) and why you dont make a curve for throtle.. Thank you very much sir..
If I only have a 4 channel helicopter, I can also make the engine off via channel 1. However, the engine only goes off when the throttle stick is in the middle. Do you have a better idea that the engine will stop immediately?
You can. The protocol is still the same but it may be necessary to update the 4 in 1 module with the latest firmware in a case that you would not find the E129 C186 protocol as an option as I have shown in this video ... (for example I had to update my MPM as it didn't show the E129 C186 protocols as an option). I have to add that some 4 in 1 multi protocol radios / modules have limited support for different protocols - that is they don't support all the available protocols (so you have to pay attention to that when buying).
Hi thank you for the nice video, Question, how do you know wich channel is what? I have a TX16S with the aetr u have taer so i have to convert it to aetr! Is there a document with channel outputs for this heli and example the D110 from eachine? Thank u !
Thanks for putting this movie together. It's really instructional. I have the same heli and a TX12 MarkII CC2500. After updating both the MultiModule firmware and the Edge TX version I now have both E129 and C186 in the MULTI settings. I have however not managed to get the radio to bind to the helicopter. Must I have a 4 in 1 module to be able to do it or is there something else that I might do wrong. I have not done the full setup as you did. I copied a template helicopter and activated the protocols and set up channel 16 as you did as I wanted to confirm that it can bind it before doing the full setup. Feels like I'm starting to get to old for this stuff.
I think that your CC2500 chip doesn't support the E129 and C186 protocols. newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2023/08/cc2500-multi-protocol-list.html I think you should have a 4 in 1 module ...
@@AndrejSturm Dam, I wish I managed to find that info before I bought the radio. Have to start to look around for an external 4 in 1 then. Thanks for helping.
Hi, thank you. As far as I know, that is not possible with multi protocol radios. So, you have to set the HS with the stock radio, save the setting and then you can fly with that head speed using a multi protocol radio.
@@AndrejSturm Oh thats a bummer. I thought it would be awesome to bind it to a knob and have the HS adjusted on the fly. I guess thats only for the hobby grade ones 🤣
thanks for the video I follow all and i can bind but can not arm the motor all functions are working I can even calibrate gyro but is not arming. Any help? Thanks
I can't find any reason for that. You could activate a channel 5 with one of the switches (auto takeoff/land) and get the helicopter in the air that way, until you find the issue ...
Also when I move my sticks to the bottom and out to start the Heli nothing happens, yet it will do its calibration using the sticks, don't know what is going on
I figured out my problem here. I created the model while the system default channel order was set to EATR. I had to change the default channel order to AETR, create a new model, and set it up again. Everything worked properly after that. Models use the default channel order in the system settings at the time the model was created. Once the model is created, the channel order can't be changed for that model (unless you remap the inputs in the model settings, but that's seems a little crude 🙄).
Why you know Chanel 6 value 100 is for motor stop？and why u know whitch Chanel is for binding？ is there a guide map book for every chanals meaning of rc era helis？Thanks！
I wish someone would do this on a boxer, Im having so much trouble even just getting the flashed file needs to have the name shortened to register, and then it still dosent see the Fly sky etc like yours..
Hallo Andrej, wie hast Du die Trimmung für Seitenruder, Querruder und Höhenruder realisiert? Das wird ja über Kanal 7,8,9 gemacht. Ich komme da nicht weiter. Frohe Weihnachten Horst
Hi, I always use the stock radio for trimming the helicopter in debug mode then I save the settings and use my TX16S for flying. When additional trimming is needed I repeat the process. I never use 7,8,9 channels on my TX16S for trimming. By the way - I just ordered the ELSR module and a bunch of different ELRS receivers. When I get them I will be able to research how will all work with the Eachine/YuXiang scale helicopters.
@@AndrejSturm So mache ich es eigentlich auch, reicht ja auch. Die C138 Bell 206 fliegt wirklich sehr gut, im Gegensatz zur C186 BO105 . Die habe ich gleich wieder verkauft. Bin auch dran die Bell UH-1D an die Radiomaster zu bekommen, warte noch auf den Empfänger, der soll morgen geliefert werden. Den Sender habe ich schon eingerichtet mit der Kanalbelegung von YUXIANG, ich hoffe das passt alles. Werde mich über Weihnachten man dran machen. Bin kein Freund von diesen billig Sendern. Werde berichten ob es klappt. Gruß Horst
As shown at about 2.38 and 3.30 his radio is loaded with the TAER version of the firmware. It will make no difference on how the heli is controlled. It does require its receiver to get AETR channel order but the radio multi firmware will automatically remap the transmitted channel order from the TAER on his screens. (Provided that you DON'T fool around with the channel set up!!!)
If I am not mistaken the Tx12 MK2 can't bind to this helicopter as that radio doesn't have a full 4-in-1 module but a more limited multi protocol module which doesn't offer all the RF protocols ...
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Thank you very much for this video. It is not only tutorial for setup RC ERA helis, I also learned how to use special functions on TX16S
Thanks for the tutorial. I realy like the RC ERA models, and I am glad that they can be set up in the TX16S. That is my favorite transmitter.
Thank you a thousand times over! I wasn't going to do this because it tends to be a rabbit hole. But it's great and I can't thank you enough for what you've done what you are doing and what you're probably going to be doing!😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yep , i got my heli all setup using your settings using my Jumper T15 and works great
Hello Andrej, thanks for the video. You explained all the functions very well. Perfect video, there should be several of them. 👍
Huge thanks, finally you make my day (was asked this tutorail sometimes ago). Kudos
Excelente video me fue muy util. Yo recien jubilado a mis 65 años y quiero incursionar en este hobby, agradezco tu colaboracion para principiantes como yo sin esconder nada, brindando todo tu conocimiento. Nuevo suscriptor tienes.
Thank you :)
Much appreciated.
Thank you very much for this VDO, I set as your inform and it work
Great 👍
Hello Andrej, thank you for this video! It was very informative.
I'm just wondering... I don't have the "Bind" track on my Radiomaster TX16S Max. It is up to date with firmware for Edge TX and the 4-in-1 module. I even installed the US-guy tracks but no "bind"...
Where did you get it?
Excellent video Andrej , much appreciated.
My pleasure!
Hello Andrej Perfect video.
I have so far these Heli's:
2 RC ERA (c138 Bell 206 and C 190 H145 )
1 Eachine E120 all with optical flow and
the two XK's K123 and K124.
The XK's fly a lot better than the other helis, with the Radiomaster TX16s or the Jumper T16, Edge or Open Tx (Futaba protocol).
The C138 Bell 206 flys better than the C190 and E120, maybe because channel 3 is Pitch and Throttle together.
The Eachine heli is actually a rc era model.The stock Tx is the same and on the electronic board is printed RC ERA.
I flew the C138 with the C190 stock TX (the grey one) and when lights flash because the battery level is low, the TX is making an alarm sound, so there is a hidden telemetry channel.
Except the channels 1,2,3,4,5 and 16(bind) the channels 7 and 8 have some effect on the model (I have to investigate).
There is one switch channel on stock RC ERA radio.Is on "position" down throttle trim, the debugging mode.
When this channel is activated (TX's red light flashes), you can trim aileron and elevator and the "position" rudder trim is active, in order to increase or decrease the main rotor pitch, aka the main rotor rpm. (Higher pitch means lower rpm and vice versa). They say that optical flow is also deactivated.
Lower rpm on main rotor means more scale flight, but less responsive main rotor, I don't know if there is an effect on flight time.
When you deactivate the channel, the trims position and the main rotor rpm are stored on model's flight controller and optical flow is on again.
Hi, thank you for your comment. Yes, the XK helicopters are equipped with the FC that offers 6g and full manual mode, and indeed have better flying characteristics. I hope the RC ERA will offer this kind of FC capabilities in their otherwise fantastic helicopters. All that they really lack is FC with full manual mode capabilities.
For me, it was in debug mode with channel 12 at any value (-100, 0 or 100), and I was able to adjust A and E trim on channels 7 and 8 all the time. I will check on channel 9 in the air to see if it adjusts the head speed. I guess this means the optical flow sensor is off? I wonder how to get it out of debug mode.
@@xXxCobraCommanderxXx Great news. So far we need the stock Tx, in order to trim the heli. So we must transfer to the radiomaster the following:
a. The debug channel (a switch channel )and a way to know if is activated the debug mode or not.
b. The pitch channel that trims the main rotor rpm. (it is on rudder trim on stock Tx. So actually the rudder trim is fake on stock Tx, because the gyro holds the rudder steady).
c. The telemetry channel that beeps the stock TX (grey color), when heli's battery is low.
Sorry, but Iam not able to test because I overheat and burn the receiver on heli(I can tell from the smell), after 2 sequentially flights, on a hot day (38o C) and ended low rpm on main rotor (max load and stress on main motor).
What do you think?
@@AndrejSturm ERA
Any more info from your testing?@xXxCobraCommanderxXx
Thanks for this video, very helpful.
Hi Andrej, I setup the heli but when I move the sticks to check how the 4 channels are working I get a delay. Also when I'm checking the sticks the blades move robotically in stages. This doesn't happen when I check it with the stock transmitter. Any thoughts? Thanks Jeff.
Andrej, i believe it's still not the full function/setup of the stock radio, trims and debug functions are still missing as well as the stock trim behavior
Also setting expo can quickly be done by applying it on the input page instead of the mixer page, but hey there's several ways to skin a cat with the amazing EdgeTx.
Great video anyways as always
@@siredwarddimaguila True. The debug function doesn’t work on the multi protocol radios (I have not found a way to activate it with the TX16S yet). For that you still need the stock radio. So, my advice is - use the stock radio to properly trim the helicopter in debug mode and save the settings. Then you can fly just fine with the multi protocol radio (I see no need to trim the heli frequently).
Thank you for your input.
thank you for this video
Welcome!
Cool, cant wait to buy my heli
Thank you Andrej for your awesome video, i really appreciate your relaxed instruction and laid back vibe.
Will you be doing a video on how to add the Flywing and the YuXiang models to the TX16s
Have you done a video on how to upgrade the module on the TX16s, i have the eachine version. Any advice 🤔😅
Hello Andrej, great video
16CHでバインドは初めて知りました。早速自分のRadioMaster TX16Sで設定しました。
RC ERAなら、機種によりスイッチで、ループやフリップができます。C138ならループです。
このチャンネルはわかっているのですが、ボタンに割り当てても何か足らず機能しません。
10ch:LOOP 11ch:Flip もしうまく機能しましたらアップデート希望します。
バインドの件。どこにもその情報がありませんでした。とても便利になりました。
とても感謝しています。👍😊😊
Hi, thank you for your comment. Yes, I have not included the flip function in this video because I have not tried to set that up yet. Maybe I will try that in the near future and if I will be successful in setting that up I can post a video at some point.
Greetings from Slovenia.
Thanks for info on loop. Do you have any idea about the debug/trim settings?
I have not been able to find a way to activate the debug mode with a multi-protocol radio yet.
@@xXxCobraCommanderxXx
コメントにURL禁止なのですね。言葉で伝わるといいですが、
ギフトハブ ドット コムにプロトコル別のCHの情報があります。
ここにCH割り当ては載っていました。
トリムやデバッグは、指定CHは解りますが、
私は良くわからずCHを空けているだけです。
P.S.
RC ERA(E129-83)
CH1:A
CH2:E
CH3:T
CH4:R
CH5:Take off/Land
CH6:Emergency
CH7:Trim A
CH8:Trim E
CH9:Trim R
CH10:Loop
CH11:Flip
CH12:Debug
CH16:Bind
Hi, I followed your setup for this helicopter and it worked perfectly. Thank you very much. Do you also have a video for the Eachine range?
Thank you for the instructions. Everything is working for me. I can also bind. However, I cannot start the motor. What could be the reason for this?
Super video👍👍
Thank you 👍
Good tutorial video Andrej
@@lynsmith1096 Thank you, much appreciated.
Great share sir!. May I ask, why your Throtle on Chanel 1 (is it must be on channel 3 ?) and why you dont make a curve for throtle.. Thank you very much sir..
Thank you very much, everything worked. But do you also have a racket to bind?this does not work for me
If I only have a 4 channel helicopter, I can also make the engine off via channel 1. However, the engine only goes off when the throttle stick is in the middle. Do you have a better idea that the engine will stop immediately?
Just saw this after posting my comment on your prior video, thanks so much! Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you.
Nice job. Can I get the 4 in 1 module and do this or is it a different protocol?
You can. The protocol is still the same but it may be necessary to update the 4 in 1 module with the latest firmware in a case that you would not find the E129 C186 protocol as an option as I have shown in this video ... (for example I had to update my MPM as it didn't show the E129 C186 protocols as an option). I have to add that some 4 in 1 multi protocol radios / modules have limited support for different protocols - that is they don't support all the available protocols (so you have to pay attention to that when buying).
More multi protocol info here: github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module/blob/master/Protocols_Details.md#E129---83
Hi thank you for the nice video, Question, how do you know wich channel is what? I have a TX16S with the aetr u have taer so i have to convert it to aetr! Is there a document with channel outputs for this heli and example the D110 from eachine? Thank u !
Hi is there a way tp disable optical flow using TX16S? brilliant tutorial by the way!
Thanks for putting this movie together. It's really instructional. I have the same heli and a TX12 MarkII CC2500. After updating both the MultiModule firmware and the Edge TX version I now have both E129 and C186 in the MULTI settings. I have however not managed to get the radio to bind to the helicopter. Must I have a 4 in 1 module to be able to do it or is there something else that I might do wrong. I have not done the full setup as you did. I copied a template helicopter and activated the protocols and set up channel 16 as you did as I wanted to confirm that it can bind it before doing the full setup. Feels like I'm starting to get to old for this stuff.
I think that your CC2500 chip doesn't support the E129 and C186 protocols.
newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2023/08/cc2500-multi-protocol-list.html
I think you should have a 4 in 1 module ...
@@AndrejSturm Dam, I wish I managed to find that info before I bought the radio. Have to start to look around for an external 4 in 1 then. Thanks for helping.
@@AndrejSturm I have a 4 in 1 boxer and get prot. invalid
hi thank you for the informative video, but is there any way to set up the head speed for the helicopter on this transmitter?
Hi, thank you. As far as I know, that is not possible with multi protocol radios. So, you have to set the HS with the stock radio, save the setting and then you can fly with that head speed using a multi protocol radio.
@@AndrejSturm Oh thats a bummer. I thought it would be awesome to bind it to a knob and have the HS adjusted on the fly. I guess thats only for the hobby grade ones 🤣
I set a switch in my Throttle cut. So when Throttle cut is on , it stops the timer , when its off it starts
How do u do that yhanks
thanks for the video
I follow all and i can bind but can not arm the motor
all functions are working I can even calibrate gyro but is not arming.
Any help? Thanks
I can't find any reason for that. You could activate a channel 5 with one of the switches (auto takeoff/land) and get the helicopter in the air that way, until you find the issue ...
Also when I move my sticks to the bottom and out to start the Heli nothing happens, yet it will do its calibration using the sticks, don't know what is going on
Having the same issue. Did you ever figure out the problem?
I figured out my problem here. I created the model while the system default channel order was set to EATR. I had to change the default channel order to AETR, create a new model, and set it up again. Everything worked properly after that. Models use the default channel order in the system settings at the time the model was created. Once the model is created, the channel order can't be changed for that model (unless you remap the inputs in the model settings, but that's seems a little crude 🙄).
Hi ANDREJ great video can you still use the secret debugging mode on the EDGE TX transmitter
Thank you. I have not found a way to activate the debugging mode with a multi protocol radio (yet).
@@AndrejSturm I seemingly can't turn it off! Trim settings working for me.
This video is essential for me! thank you! Is there a way to setup auto landing, auto take off?
It is, maybe I will make a short update video ...
@@AndrejSturm thank you!!
Good Video 👍
Pleas, can you make a Video for your Flywing Bell 206 (H1-Modul) and Tx16s?!
Hello can you use this setup to fly a c123?
Why you know Chanel 6 value 100 is for motor stop？and why u know whitch Chanel is for binding？ is there a guide map book for every chanals meaning of rc era helis？Thanks！
Can you still turn off the optical flow?
nice job man
Thanks!
I wish someone would do this on a boxer, Im having so much trouble even just getting the flashed file needs to have the name shortened to register, and then it still dosent see the Fly sky etc like yours..
Hallo Andrej, wie hast Du die Trimmung für Seitenruder, Querruder und Höhenruder realisiert? Das wird ja über Kanal 7,8,9 gemacht. Ich komme da nicht weiter. Frohe Weihnachten
Horst
Hi, I always use the stock radio for trimming the helicopter in debug mode then I save the settings and use my TX16S for flying. When additional trimming is needed I repeat the process. I never use 7,8,9 channels on my TX16S for trimming. By the way - I just ordered the ELSR module and a bunch of different ELRS receivers. When I get them I will be able to research how will all work with the Eachine/YuXiang scale helicopters.
@@AndrejSturm So mache ich es eigentlich auch, reicht ja auch. Die C138 Bell 206 fliegt wirklich sehr gut, im Gegensatz zur C186 BO105 . Die habe ich gleich wieder verkauft.
Bin auch dran die Bell UH-1D an die Radiomaster zu bekommen, warte noch auf den Empfänger, der soll morgen geliefert werden. Den Sender habe ich schon eingerichtet mit der Kanalbelegung von YUXIANG, ich hoffe das passt alles. Werde mich über Weihnachten man dran machen. Bin kein Freund von diesen billig Sendern. Werde berichten ob es klappt.
Gruß
Horst
That's great. Good luck with the test flight.
Hallo Andrej, verry usefull Video! I like your Videos! But can you tell me how to change the Headspeed on the Radiomaster to reduce the toiletmove?
Are you using a TAER module firmware or a AETR firmware?
As shown at about 2.38 and 3.30 his radio is loaded with the TAER version of the firmware. It will make no difference on how the heli is controlled. It does require its receiver to get AETR channel order but the radio multi firmware will automatically remap the transmitted channel order from the TAER on his screens. (Provided that you DON'T fool around with the channel set up!!!)
Hello Andrey. I think is the same for Tx12 MK2 menu?
If I am not mistaken the Tx12 MK2 can't bind to this helicopter as that radio doesn't have a full 4-in-1 module but a more limited multi protocol module which doesn't offer all the RF protocols ...
Hi does it work on spektrum radio too ?
It doesn't.
@ is it due to system limitations pr it just disent have the protocole ready to use
Yes please show how to do auto takeoff and landing, or just put in a pinned comment or description? Is it still on channel 5? Thanks.
Yes, it's on the channel 5.
why no sound?