To Dr.. O'riorden and Dr Francis: You both seem very concerned about patient care and also very frustrated by a system that gives you very limited time with patients and you seem defensive about patients who can go elsewhere to physicians who will spend more time with them and have a different approach. Many do s start out in traditional medicine and go for additional training to help people with chronic illness and multiple medication side effects. Many doctors have zero training in nutrition and this is a serious limitation of traditional medical school. As for sugar "causing everything" I sincerely hope both of you at least listen to the podcasts ofDr. Robert Lustig ( pediatric endocrinologist) who presents compelling ng evidence that the added sugars in ultraprocessed foods is driving a world wide epidemic of metabolic syndrome / diabetes and contributing to driving cancer and even dementia. Interestingly thin people can have metabolic syndrome ,and some overweight can be metabolically healthy( need to check fasting insulin levels). As for testing , because of massive world wide pollution I requested heavy metal testing and was found to have elevated lead. How do you know what to treat if you don't test? As for Dr Mark Hyman why not invite him on your podcast? Maybe the Cleveland Clinic knows something that you don't. The world can use both traditional and functional medicine. Best Wishes
I found this video really interesting and insightful. I feel the main issue is so many people are jumping on the band wagon. I have been researching functional medicine more recently due to my breast cancer returning in the same place 13 years later. I was first diagnosed aged 50 years by Mr Ian Patterson at Solihull hospital West Midlands. After being 13 years clear I thought I was okay until December 2022 it was picked up on an ultrasound scan. This time I had to have a mastectomy as I previously had a lumpectomy. I have recently looked into altrenative/functional medicine. I feel its hard to trust medic's at times. It is a worry when patients like myself are considering other options away from the convential medicine. Thank you both for your very insightful and honest video God bless 🙏
As lovely as my GP is , he has definitely never asked me how I am and definitely not what I eat. 😆 Unfortunately I think many people have lost a lot of trust in conventional medicine, especially when medicines are made to look more effective by the way they are presented for example with the relative versus absolute statistics. It would be great to see doctors being transparent with the statistics around drugs such as number needed to treat. Plus the industry funding of research doesn't exactly inspire confidence! As an acupuncturist ( which according to Dr Rohan is probably considered voodoo magic 😜) I see patients who have tried loads of things, including the conventional medical approach and yet are still not well and they come for acupunture after traveling a long road.. Sometimes patients are on a cocktail of different medications that they don't always understand why, have been prescribed by different doctors and have interactions. Sometimes they are coming for symptoms that turn out to be a medication side effect, and it's also not unusual for acupuncturists to pick up on red flags that have not been picked up on otherwise, especially with patients finding it difficult to get to see their doctor.... Who we then have to refer them back to. thank you Liz for the interesting videos and this conversation with Dr Rohan - i appreciate that he's trying to be balanced, and I understand the concern with dodgy internet info 😊
I think complementary therapies can be fantastic. I used acupuncture myself for hot flushes. Every cancer drug I have used has been throughly tested in trials to prove that it is better than the current gold standard.
All professions have their good and bad. I've had many GPs over my nearly 50 years. Every one of those GPs has considered lifestyle. Every single one has given nutritional advice, exercise advice, sleep advice etc. where that was possibly relevant to the medical issue I was experiencing. Talking to GPs regularly I hear that patients often ignore diet and exercise advice because they WANT the 'quick-fix' of a drug. And, to be fair to GPs, I hear that myself talking to various friends, colleagues and associates. The same people that will spend hundreds of pounds to sit and chat to a 'functional medicine practitioner' will get annoyed at their GP if the GP even mentions their weight, or their smoking, or their drinking. It's bonkers.
@@lornapirozzolo6132 Not everyone has had the same experiences you've had with doctors. No doctor I've visited has ever spoken to me about nutrition, the benefits of proper rest, sleep and exercise. I would love my doctor to speak to me about these things and I'm one of those people who is into homeopathic medicine/natural remedies. The health system doesn't promote preventive measures but sure does a good job at pushing cures.
Sadly this is true. I lost a client to stroke 10 yrs ago. He’d been to his gp & a hospital & both said he was fine. When he came to me I insisted he needed to be in hospital, died a week later. We must use all our senses as practitioners. Sometimes if we only listen to words we miss a lot of information. I’m very grateful to one GP & the radiologist I saw, they didn’t make assumptions because I was upset & couldn’t find answers to my health issues.
Sorry, if docs in England have only 10 minutes to do a history , exam and formulate/ document a plan, then can you blame patients for going to practitioners that have more time?? As far as testing is concerned I had genetic tests that showed significant weaknesses in phase 1 and 2 of my liver detoxification system . This is important to know and could influence what dose of a medication would be appropriate for me. I disagree that looking for the root cause of an illness is " blaming the patient. I have listened to multiple podcasts given by doctors on how underlying inflammation drives multiple illnesses and how to minimize inflammation by diet.Functional medicine docs often have taken additional training in nutrition subject neglected in medical school. As for doing no harm, medical errors are a leading cause of death. Traditional treatments for breast cancer make patients more vulnerable to heart disease in the future.
Oh, my apologies! Ten minutes is barely enough time to find the right end of the stethoscope, let alone properly evaluate a patient! In contrast, many Completely Free National Health Systems around Europe generously allot doctors ample time for patient evaluations. Tests are indispensable-diagnoses can't simply be conjured up with a wing and a prayer! That's the province of religion, not medical science.
I'm happy to insult traditional doctors. The many that I have visited in my 30 years have all disregarded preventative measures and made me systemically unwell with the antibiotics and drugs they prescribed. Functional medicine delves into the unique biochemistry and story of the individual. Functional medicine doctors online, giving their free advice have saved my life just in the nick of time. With raw veganism and the wealth of knowledge I've picked up, I have healed psoriasis, arthritis and am in remission of Hidradenitis Suppurativa. My joints were affected by hypermobility and I thought my subluxation of joints would be a matter I'd always have to deal with. To my total surprise and relief, learning about nutrition and lifestyle through Functional medicine and the raw vegan diet, my joints are stronger than they've ever been. I can finally at the age of 30, celebrate and begin to live my life. I dont blame a single doctor I've seen, but not one of them knew what to do with me.
Time. Its all about time. Since i first entered practice (45 years ago) the time i can spend with a patient has been dramatically reduced. The best practice of medicine requires time but whichever entity pays (NHS, Insurance company, Medicare etc) has put more and more pressure on docs to increase throughput which necessitates less time
Unless a person is registered with the general medical council or another state body in actual medicine there are no repercussions of any quakary. The most worrying thing about “functional medicine” is that these guys , many of them have no medical degree, and push themselves off as doctors . The title of a doctor has to be protected to someone who has been to medical school , is licenced to practice and will get struck off for any wrong doing that harms or fleeces money off a patient. I think the general medical council at least here in the UK needs to force these people to make it clear they are not medical doctors . They are “unconventional “ and at the point of purchase / advertising it should be clear. Dr berg eg has no medical degree as far as I can see yet he has millions of people following him.
He thing is, a lot of important things aren't talked about during consultations, and a lot pf doctors will even dismiss you for bringing some concerns out, in France for instance doctors are taught in medical school to never admit to the patient when they are wrong or have done something wrong, a close Friend (doctor and teacher himself at the medical school CHU de Nice) told us when i brought up my bad experience with medicine. It should be only one medicine, the evidence , non biased (not sponsored) and hopefully wholistic medicine. But instead, it feels like it's rare
To Dr.. O'riorden and Dr Francis: You both seem very concerned about patient care and also very frustrated by a system that gives you very limited time with patients and you seem defensive about patients who can go elsewhere to physicians who will spend more time with them and have a different approach. Many do s start out in traditional medicine and go for additional training to help people with chronic illness and multiple medication side effects. Many doctors have zero training in nutrition and this is a serious limitation of traditional medical school.
As for sugar "causing everything" I sincerely hope both of you at least listen to the podcasts ofDr. Robert Lustig ( pediatric endocrinologist) who presents compelling ng evidence that the added sugars in ultraprocessed foods is driving a world wide epidemic of metabolic syndrome / diabetes and contributing to driving cancer and even dementia. Interestingly thin people can have metabolic syndrome ,and some overweight can be metabolically healthy( need to check fasting insulin levels). As for testing , because of massive world wide pollution I requested heavy metal testing and was found to have elevated lead. How do you know what to treat if you don't test?
As for Dr Mark Hyman why not invite him on your podcast? Maybe the Cleveland Clinic knows something that you don't. The world can use both traditional and functional medicine.
Best Wishes
Well said
I found this video really interesting and insightful. I feel the main issue is so many people are jumping on the band wagon.
I have been researching functional medicine more recently due to my breast cancer returning in the same place 13 years later.
I was first diagnosed aged 50 years by Mr Ian Patterson at Solihull hospital West Midlands. After being 13 years clear I thought I was okay until December 2022 it was picked up on an ultrasound scan. This time I had to have a mastectomy as I previously had a lumpectomy. I have recently looked into altrenative/functional medicine.
I feel its hard to trust medic's at times. It is a worry when patients like myself are considering other options away from the convential medicine. Thank you both for your very insightful and honest video God bless 🙏
As lovely as my GP is , he has definitely never asked me how I am and definitely not what I eat. 😆
Unfortunately I think many people have lost a lot of trust in conventional medicine, especially when medicines are made to look more effective by the way they are presented for example with the relative versus absolute statistics. It would be great to see doctors being transparent with the statistics around drugs such as number needed to treat. Plus the industry funding of research doesn't exactly inspire confidence! As an acupuncturist ( which according to Dr Rohan is probably considered voodoo magic 😜) I see patients who have tried loads of things, including the conventional medical approach and yet are still not well and they come for acupunture after traveling a long road.. Sometimes patients are on a cocktail of different medications that they don't always understand why, have been prescribed by different doctors and have interactions. Sometimes they are coming for symptoms that turn out to be a medication side effect, and it's also not unusual for acupuncturists to pick up on red flags that have not been picked up on otherwise, especially with patients finding it difficult to get to see their doctor.... Who we then have to refer them back to. thank you Liz for the interesting videos and this conversation with Dr Rohan - i appreciate that he's trying to be balanced, and I understand the concern with dodgy internet info 😊
I think complementary therapies can be fantastic. I used acupuncture myself for hot flushes. Every cancer drug I have used has been throughly tested in trials to prove that it is better than the current gold standard.
All professions have their good and bad. I've had many GPs over my nearly 50 years. Every one of those GPs has considered lifestyle. Every single one has given nutritional advice, exercise advice, sleep advice etc. where that was possibly relevant to the medical issue I was experiencing. Talking to GPs regularly I hear that patients often ignore diet and exercise advice because they WANT the 'quick-fix' of a drug. And, to be fair to GPs, I hear that myself talking to various friends, colleagues and associates. The same people that will spend hundreds of pounds to sit and chat to a 'functional medicine practitioner' will get annoyed at their GP if the GP even mentions their weight, or their smoking, or their drinking. It's bonkers.
@@lornapirozzolo6132 Not everyone has had the same experiences you've had with doctors. No doctor I've visited has ever spoken to me about nutrition, the benefits of proper rest, sleep and exercise. I would love my doctor to speak to me about these things and I'm one of those people who is into homeopathic medicine/natural remedies. The health system doesn't promote preventive measures but sure does a good job at pushing cures.
Sadly this is true. I lost a client to stroke 10 yrs ago. He’d been to his gp & a hospital & both said he was fine. When he came to me I insisted he needed to be in hospital, died a week later. We must use all our senses as practitioners. Sometimes if we only listen to words we miss a lot of information. I’m very grateful to one GP & the radiologist I saw, they didn’t make assumptions because I was upset & couldn’t find answers to my health issues.
Sorry, if docs in England have only 10 minutes to do a history , exam and formulate/ document a plan, then can you blame patients for going to practitioners that have more time?? As far as testing is concerned I had genetic tests that showed significant weaknesses in phase 1 and 2 of my liver detoxification system . This is important to know and could influence what dose of a medication would be appropriate for me. I disagree that looking for the root cause of an illness is " blaming the patient. I have listened to multiple podcasts given by doctors on how underlying inflammation drives multiple illnesses and how to minimize inflammation by diet.Functional medicine docs often have taken additional training in nutrition subject neglected in medical school. As for doing no harm, medical errors are a leading cause of death. Traditional treatments for breast cancer make patients more vulnerable to heart disease in the future.
Oh, my apologies! Ten minutes is barely enough time to find the right end of the stethoscope, let alone properly evaluate a patient! In contrast, many Completely Free National Health Systems around Europe generously allot doctors ample time for patient evaluations. Tests are indispensable-diagnoses can't simply be conjured up with a wing and a prayer! That's the province of religion, not medical science.
I'm happy to insult traditional doctors. The many that I have visited in my 30 years have all disregarded preventative measures and made me systemically unwell with the antibiotics and drugs they prescribed. Functional medicine delves into the unique biochemistry and story of the individual. Functional medicine doctors online, giving their free advice have saved my life just in the nick of time. With raw veganism and the wealth of knowledge I've picked up, I have healed psoriasis, arthritis and am in remission of Hidradenitis Suppurativa. My joints were affected by hypermobility and I thought my subluxation of joints would be a matter I'd always have to deal with. To my total surprise and relief, learning about nutrition and lifestyle through Functional medicine and the raw vegan diet, my joints are stronger than they've ever been. I can finally at the age of 30, celebrate and begin to live my life. I dont blame a single doctor I've seen, but not one of them knew what to do with me.
Thanks for sharing your story
Time. Its all about time. Since i first entered practice (45 years ago) the time i can spend with a patient has been dramatically reduced. The best practice of medicine requires time but whichever entity pays (NHS, Insurance company, Medicare etc) has put more and more pressure on docs to increase throughput which necessitates less time
Functional Medicine is the way to go. They take their time with you. Love them!
Unless a person is registered with the general medical council or another state body in actual medicine there are no repercussions of any quakary. The most worrying thing about “functional medicine” is that these guys , many of them have no medical degree, and push themselves off as doctors . The title of a doctor has to be protected to someone who has been to medical school , is licenced to practice and will get struck off for any wrong doing that harms or fleeces money off a patient. I think the general medical council at least here in the UK needs to force these people to make it clear they are not medical doctors . They are “unconventional “ and at the point of purchase / advertising it should be clear. Dr berg eg has no medical degree as far as I can see yet he has millions of people following him.
He thing is, a lot of important things aren't talked about during consultations, and a lot pf doctors will even dismiss you for bringing some concerns out, in France for instance doctors are taught in medical school to never admit to the patient when they are wrong or have done something wrong, a close Friend (doctor and teacher himself at the medical school CHU de Nice) told us when i brought up my bad experience with medicine.
It should be only one medicine, the evidence , non biased (not sponsored) and hopefully wholistic medicine. But instead, it feels like it's rare