Simulating a Broken AIO Pump (so You Don’t Have To)
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When an AIO pump breaks, things get toasty! (Duh!) But there are things to look out for! Let's discuss.
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brb currently filming the new IT expansion update for PC Building Simulator 🤓
I have found the IT expansion very addictive. I look forward to the video!
Ohohohohoh yes- can’t wait for that video to drop!!!!!
Give me that fault AIO
I'm enjoying it quite a lot, being free is icing on the cake.
PC BS needs a few small additions to make it feel a bit more realistic. For the business sim there should be some data migration tools added as well as the option to reformat or reinstall the OS on a machine. IRL there's not much worse you can do than wiping a customers data. If a customer asks you to replace the HDD they expect you to either migrate the complete installation or do your best to copy their data if the old drive is failing. Very seldom will they however want to take the cost of having the drive sent to a data recovery company, though that happens now and then.
In the IT expansion I got stuck on a job where I was to wipe the drive and reinstall a clean OS. While that sounds easy enough it frustrates me that the only way to do that is by installing a new never used drive. That's not "Reinstalling the OS".
Also it's a bit weird never to have customers lie and try to scam you. I guess having worked in the business for more than 30 years tends to make you a bit cynical about customers.
My corsair h75 120mm AIO died while I was sleeping, woke up to burning tech smell and loudly revving computer fans as the computer like you said simply turned itself off and tried to reboot. However as I had been sleeping and not noticed the AIO must have had water left inside it that reached boiling, eventually literally blowing the gasket on the pump and it was literally dripping on the graphics card as the computer was stuck in a boot loop. Quickly turned off the computer and ripped the AIO out and after replacing it with a Noctua NH-D15, nothing was actually broken. Talk about a miracle.
Greg, thank you for the amazing content, I've started my own small PC business because of you, so far it's going really well, wish you the best and that you keep doing it, really appreciate it
That is _awesome!_ Let me know if I can ever help! Would love to chime in on a Skype call or something.
@@GregSalazar that'd be absolutely amazing! I'll sure hit you up, thanks for replying, literally made my day lol
Videos bro
@@apocalypse3039 you should make some vids on pc builds someday
@@GregSalazar - hey Greg I have an HP laptop that won't start up. Bought a new battery, new ram and even had a shop look at it and nothing. I know you don't feature laptops on this channel but I'd be willing to send it to you. I'll pay shipping both ways if your willing to feature it. Thanks.
🔥EZ how to simulate a dead AIO pump tutorial🔥
Step 1. Unplug Pump connector
Step 2. Thermal throttle hell
Step 3. Hope the system won’t cra-
I've started buying used parts, building, and flipping PCs and your channel has been the most helpful on all of youtube for building and diagnosing hardware issues. Thank you so much Greg
Thanks a lot! I literally used your video as proff for the company that sold me a AIO with a defective water-pump! They were trying to say it was a "user error" but I had followed their own "installing tutorial" on their own channel! Thanks a lot! On my way to get a new AIO!!!
I had the same problem as shown on video! My PC has a Intel i3 9100f ( CPUs are really expensive here in Brazil, so, I'm not currently able to buy a better one ) wich is a really "cold" CPU. I've added a AIO so I could get more space in my case for the future high profile memory and for the looks of it.
This happened to me this past week and i’ve been trying to figure out what was wrong with my CPU. Timing couldn’t be better Greg thank you!
Thanks for all you awesome content in this time of GPU high prices preventing most ppl from building with recent GPUs. Really useful information in this video and your two series, fix or flop and deep cleaning are awesome.
had this trouble a couple days ago and i remembered this video, it was probably a combo of an air bubble and bad thermal paste application but so far im back down to 60s instead of 90s under load. Thanks for this Vid, it really does help! Great content.
Now while I'm a fairly advanced PC user/builder/fixer I will say this...it's refreshing to see someone like Greg here educating folks on what to look for when it comes to PC part failures. I actually like the way this channel is going, the fix or flop series can be highly useful for a lot of folks out there. I've had AIO pump failure long ago...it can and does happen as Greg here has tried to demonstrate. Learn from the videos this man produces folks because honestly he's doing the community a huge help here.
yes this is good to watch I'm learning a lot about diagnostics
the Floor Imaging part was really helpful thx
Thank you so much for this! Just built my first pc today and I was suspecting a faulty cooler as my CPU temps were in the high 90s just idle. Thank you for confirming my suspicions. I will definitely look forward to more of your content! =D
Yessssssssss! Great video!! I wish you would do a build with the Asus X Noctua 3070 collab. I would love to see a brown and beige build. Keeep up the great content.
Thanks for the help! My temps suddenly skyrocketed one day and I now know why.
Loving the playlist
Awesome Video Greg! Thanks so much. You helped me figure out the issue.
What happened was within my expectations and nothing new but still nice to see a demonstration.
Also I noticed that your captions are in a bunch of languages now aside from english because of another comment, and damn that is cool!
Love your videos, I'm learning so much from your videos
Thanks for this. Very helpful for a 1st time builder
Im so happy you have reached 700,000 subs you deserve so much more recognition
I really appreciate that!
@@GregSalazar Forgot Bitcoin to the moon, Greg Salazar to the Moon!
Honestly, most mobos have a pump header. Where you can check RPMs.
Some mobos can even give a warning when the pump does not report rpms.
Awesome video as always😃
Holy crap you looked into my soul with that intro. Thats exactly what has been happening to my pc recently. (same blue screen and everything) The funny part is that i didnt even look up this vid. I just saw it in my recommended because im already subbed.
I wouldn't worry about vibrations when you are feeling up the pipes. They are hopefully connected to the radiator with 1-6 fans mounted to it. That will create vibrations as well. He does hit the nail on the head later in the video where one hose is hot and the other is not. This is because of 1 of 2 things: The pump is broken, or the water is gummed up. In either case it's time to replace the AIO.
*Great video! Keep it up!*
Thank you man great video !
This happened to me! I was reusing my 3700X and the 240mm AIO I had and moving them to an ITX case for a living room setup. When cutting cable ties, I somehow managed to just partially cut one of the cables for power delivery for the pump. The cut was so small, I didn't even notice it until I ran into issues - and even then first assumed the pump had somehow given out. Thankfully some twisting wires and electrical tape later it was fixed.
I know you were talking about AIO's, but this is exactly why I have a flow indicator in my custom loop
Thanks for doing this kind of stuff, my Pump is fine but making the switch from a traditional CPU Fan to this kind of cooling left me a bit paranoid so It's good to know what to watch out for.
me watching this as my cpu is idling at 100 after redoing my thermal paste, checking pump, etc. lmao.
Brother I’m having a similar issue but not exactly like that , from what I gathered from your video my pump is okay , but I’m having some of the most unusual temp hikes you can find right after boot , like 30c to 105c inside of 2min ( and then after 3-5 reboots ) temps stay under 45c even under extreme use or gaming. Any help at all you can provide ? Thank you ahead of time
I just found out that I got an AIO Pump in my machine, when I specially stated on purchase that I didn't want a pump in my computer because I knew they were bad & causes nothing but problems.
And now I'm here, after finally realizing what was cooking my PC for over a month.... Clearly a faulty Pump that throws me up to 100c when trying to boot games.
Great.
This should be a great watch while I scream internally.
this was a really great explanation. i spent 2 days trying to figure out what was wrong just to find out my pump is dead only after like a year of getting my PC.
what was your solution? because i got the same problem.
@@sim2326 reached out to nzxt for a replacement since my prebuilt + the radiator was still under warranty.
Super helpful, learned my pump never had fluid, it's been like that for 7 years, now it's failing because the fans are finally dying, we had strong fans
The tube thing is spot on, my dead AIO (which I suspect the pump died) had 1 wire that was hot and one cold. Also could not feel any vibration going through the tubes
I can feel vibration in my tubes, but very cleary have a hot one and a cold one. What could that mean?
Literally had this issue about a month and a half ago and took a round about way to get to replacing my AIO but in the process learned alot more about my PC build. I guess cheap china AIOs with RGB logos die quite often.
I also noticed that the radiator was at or very close to room temperature in the dead pump senerio. And visibly hotter with the pump running. Look at the flip images closely at the top and bottom of the fan frame.
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Thank you very helpful video!!!
thanks the flir image confirmed that my aio is having problems - i can feel one tube is way hotter than the other
Hello Greg my pc was running really bad so I hardware reset my pc then it fixed it but after a while it happens again. Basically my pc can play call of duty modern warfare on 200 fps no lag but after a while i get 50 drop to 20 and it gos up and down please tell me how to fix. When I say while normally it 1 2 months. TY
Hi, I built my computer 7 years go, and I'm no expert at all. I have a corsair hydro h60, and recently my computer booted up in BIOS when turning on. I noticed the AIO PUMP says N/A and it has a circular arrow in the pump graphic. I felt the pump, as mentioned in your video, and I to feel a bit of vibration. The air coming out of the back is cold. The CPU temp is at 26C and holding, and the motherboard temp is 23C. I have never replaced the paste on my corsair hydro h60, could that be the problem?
Looks like the Castle 120R did a good job, I’m thinking of picking one up for my mini itx case build.
I would like to see how it returns to it real frequency, but just by seeing the temperature is a great way to see how cooling works
Got that same case...I love it
do you see more overheating on aio cooled vs fan/heatsink?
Great Timing... My AIO pump quit 2 weeks ago!
Greg, I know it’s an old video but have a question for you.
I’ve had a bad run of Arctic Liquid Freezer ii AIO’s that’s disturbing.
For starters have a 360mm in a tower PC that’s worked flawlessly, about year and half old.
Went over to Micro-ATX and went with a 240mm that was purchased April of 2023 and the pump died September 2023 (pump housing hot, lines/radiator cold)
Went thru the RMA process and didn’t want that PC down for a few weeks so bought a 280mm (didn’t realize at the time a 280mm would fit in the case. That one lasted 30 minutes till the pump died.
Called Arctic up and stressed how unhappy I was and they decided to upgrade the original defective 240mm with a 280mm (was told a new one would be sent, refurbish was sent instead scratches on the radiator, who cares free upgrade)
That one DOA, 90c in BIOS right away, rebooted went down to 32c. Okay maybe a bubble or glitch. Rebooted again shot up to 110c.
Back on the phone with Arctic, now pretty annoyed. They assured me they will send a brand new one this time.
Have you been seeing failures from the Arctic Liquid Freezer ii’s like this?
Even checked the fan header to make sure it has constant 12 volts (made a video) and all good there.
A running theory is they now run a single connector for the pump and fans which leaves the pump running 100% non adjustable which is fine and you can still adjust the fan curve. Wondering if the control board is the point of failure since this is a newer design. The first 280mm I bought was a Revision 7 so obviously they have had problems to revise them that many times.
Thinking the refurb they sent was a Cold Plate swap due to contamination and the cooling fluid was never replaced and it just plugged up the cooling fins immediately from the residual junk that should have been drained and replaced or scrapped.
Thanks.
Hey Greg, there's a little digital screen behind you on the shelf. Where can I get one like that???
I noticed on my old Corsair H100i that only one tube was getting hot, and figured either enough water had slowly seeped out over time (it's top mounted) or the pump died.
Either way if it was only not enough water left, and I have to open it to refill, is there somewhere I can buy another pump for it?
And this is why after weighing my choices between air and aio for my new system, I decided to stick with air cooling. A bit of undervolting and proper case ventilation is all I need to keep the CPU happy.
Im feel so lucky to find ur yt channel after I burn an aio on my old pc ,now I have built a new one ~1500€. max temp on gaming 65°
Good topic.
hello, i have a nzxt kraken m22 cooler i know its been knowen to have some issues, mines climbs to 100F idle while gaming 140 to 160F when plugged into fan 3 pump i get around 160F i have no idea if my pumps malfunctioning or something else
No feeling in the hoses. 99 degrees Celsius constantly and didn't ever drop. My pump was definitely dead and im glad i made the right decision replacing it.
Had a Rosewill PB120-RGB 120mm AIO die on me for my Ryzen 7 3700X (not OC'd). It worked well for the about 8 months. Noticed some serious lag in GTAOnline after playing for about half an hour, especially in the grass heavy areas. But still no random shutdowns, or dead pump sounds. Checked Ryzen to see what was up only to see it capping at 95*C.
Immediately went out to Bestbuy to grab a Corsair H100i and then tried to get in contact with Rosewill/Newegg for return/replacement.
That was three months ago. Never heard anything back. One year ownership will be in nine days (11/12)
I've already thrown it away because I lost hope on anyone getting back to me. Really surprised it never shut the system down. Have nothing but good to say about the H100i, saved the fan from old AIO because it was RGB and use it as an exhaust now.
Thanks, I am planning to buy a similar system and ill use an aio too!
i having problem with nzxt z73 ... after using the pc awhile maybe play some game and editting then i close the my pc... suddenly i get cpu fan error after i try to open the pc... the thing is the fan is rotating but its overheat when i checked in bios... but after i shutdown maybe around 4 hours, suddenly its work fine... cAN U IDDENTIFIED THE PROB?
10:22 I am sure Intel won't shut off at this point. German overclocker Roman managed to run a full loop of cinebench on an Intel CPU (I believe it was 8th gen, but I don't think more recent CPUs differ so much in this aspect) without even a cooler mounted. The AMD didn't managed to do this in his test.
so i touched my aio tubes but one tube seems to have vibration but the other one is very faint. is that normal? or should i be feeling like the same amount of vibration from both tubes?
I have same issue was your pump dead ?
Useful video. I have a different scenario. 6 month old aio, suddenly getting very high cpu temps. Aio is showing lots of rpm in the bios. That's a dead aio or not?
Snagged an OEM Windows 10 key with that code, thanks a bunch
hi there, i noticed that my cpu cooler has started to make a crackling noise when underload but the temp stays low when not could my pump be damaged?
edit: it only really does it during triple A games like Survivor even on the lowest settings.
I recently bought a Corsair h45 but my temps in bios are going up to 91°C so I thought maybe the stock Corsair's thermal paste isn't that good so I ordered Corsair TM-30 thermal paste but the temps are still staying at high 90's I can feel my tubes vibrating and there are no weird noises from the pump I still can't figure out the issue so I am using the intel stock cooler right now and my processor is i7 3770. Need help any suggestions would be appreciated.
Hi so the pump seems to be running but at idle my temps are sitting very high like 50-60c sometimes 70c and i noticed that the tubes are moving water but it seems warm is it by chance not cooling ? the AIO seems to be running hard as of late. just trying to figure out whats going without ripping it apart again thermal paste and everything is all good so thinking my rad is dying on my 240 GALAHAD. ever since the AIO has started running loud and heavy like its under a high load i've noticed my pc performance taking a big hit and this is a fairly new build at around 1 year old all parts are new. anyone have any ideas or things i could check.
Hi Greg. I dont know why my pc shuts down the pump and black screen random and some days are frequent. Gaming is not problem Temps are good, test in aida 35c idle, 85c at 100% cpu and did not shut down.. I swap GPU, works in another pc.I change PSU from 700w to 900w just in case still problem. Is this motherboard or cpu or memory issue? AMD 3700x, X570 latest bios, 32gb ddr4 3200 cl16, win11. thank you.
Great video. Found out my h115 pump was dead.. I can't believe I was running games on 600mghz due to heat!
I have a aio pump with a small radiator. I tried to flip the radiator upside down so it’s higher than the pump and all that. But the very loud noise is coming from the radiator itself, not the pump, not the fans. What do you think is the problem? Computer is only a year old.
So my Ibuypower rtx 3080 i7 12700kf pc has a aio in it and it randomly throttles up gets loud asf and starts rattling ive tried to tap out any possible air bubbles but to no prevail it continues to do that and my games get super laggy and unplayable ive changed the thermal paste im sold on this pump just being garbage but if you could help me understand more or tell me something based off what i said for symptoms that i may not know itd be the best i did order a new aio from newegg because I really think the ibuypower one is just garbage… and there is no way to take this aio apart as it has one way screws on the cold plate
Hi, I have the issues you stated however sometimes my water pump/air works when I boot computer and sometimes it doesn’t, on the times it doesn’t I get the symptoms of throttling and eventual pc shutdown. Furthermore, sometimes the pc doesn’t boot with the pump working and eventually after stressing cpu pump comes back on. Do you have any suggestions as to what to do?
Can a dead pump be fixed somehow? I opened my 4 week brand new MasterLiquid 360 Atmos (one of their latest) did some check on the board with a tester to see if current went into the pump and it still does, but something might be fried. I havent opened the liquid side yet tho, but i doubt it is so clogged that it doesnt run in less than a month?
my pump has the vibrations, but the sound coming from it, is like when you have a "motor or fan, revving up & up...only to go into neutral & coast downwards"! that keep repeating randomly! (also I've switched out the dead fan & added 2 more... but I think my AIO either hates me or is dying-to-leave!)
barely a year out of it's supposedly 3-5yr lifespan! Would it just be better to have a normal fan instead of an AIO?
thank you for sharing!
I like the idea of aio but I've been using air coolers, i don't like the look or install of air coolers, they are real eye sores) but I'm wondering, are pump failures or leaks common or rare with aoi s?
i have ryzen 5 5600x and i have watercooling and when my pc i idel i have 50 - 55 c but when i start game i have 90c,my pump is not dead and dont have plastic cover,what can i do or what is problem?
Hello, when the pump dies in the AIO Cooler, does that trigger the CPU Fan Error?
You're godsend brother
Should both tubes vibrate when it has power? Im thinking my pump may be going back because it only has vibration on one side.
I feel the liquid in the tubes of the msi 240r coreliquid, fans work, checked all the cables, attached the pump again and still its overheating when idle until it shuts off!
Whats going on? Air bubble in the pump that needs evacuation possible?
I had the cooler master lite 120 and my temperatures were sitting at like 60-70 idle. Any idea what was wrong with it?
Is it possible for a new pump to be bad? I have a ryujin 2 and can't feel the tubes vibrating.
That case looks like a MasterBox Q500L. How exactly do you install the PSU on the bottom like that? The expansion card slot grill isn't removable.
My CPU gets to 100C and then BSOD's when running an AORUS self-OC stress test. On idle it's 35C. I noticed the mobo doesn't show the radiator's fan speed, it must be a direct DC connection and isn't spinning up. What's the best way to fix this and lower my temps? I have a Corsair waterblock with integrated pump and a front mounted dual 120mm fan radiator.
My temps in the bios hits over 85c non OC. I can hear the pump runs but I hear lots of bubbles my AIO is very old but I just built a new PC and moved the AIO was working fine! Is it because it was used for so long or it was very old the liquid inside somehow evaporated?
I haven't had the best luck with AIO's but my last one was a 240 msi aio with the pump in the radiator and when I'd turn my pc on there was a loud grinding noise and ever since that happened my cpu (5900X) temps would climb to 95 when load was introduced but on idle it was around 70's. Funny thing is my gpu has an aio (from factory) and never had any issues with it a year in now but cpu AIO's I'm on my 4th. My current is a Corsair HH100i Elite Capellix. If this one fails anytime soon I'm going with air.
Good info. Can't count the number of times in forums and discord and such where they say, no I have an AIO can't be that causing the temps, the fans are spinning.....
I have an Alienware R7 core I7 8700 that revs the system fans up to a high speed when I turn the computer on. Could this be the water block or some software that has gone spastic in the system? CPU temps are immediately climbing to 92C, and GPU temps are normal. The task Manager is not showing anything extremely unusual. I'm at a loss on this one.
hey @Greg Salazar ive got a problem
after 1 week not using i tried to boot my second pc(win11 Pro 64bit) and the system told me that there would be no OS on both my drives so i restarted again and opened my BIOS, biios told me that it was resetet fun fact on this point is that the system was the whole time connected to the electricity cause normaly i watching series or movies before am sleeping.
frst thing ive done was to check if my plates are still there and yep they are and the boot settings are like before so ive turned AMD Ftpm on again and tried to restart but nope still no windows boot.
is there a way to check if my plates are working correctly or are deffect? Best way without putting them into my main system or using a win install usb stick(cause forgott mine at work xD)
So about 6 months ago I delided and put liquid metal on my 7700k and overclocked it to 4.9 GHz at 1.38v. This was stable with prime95 and a max temp between 70 and 80C when running for a while. However, recently I noticed my fans ramping super high kinda spiking so I checked temps and I seem to be idling at 50C and when I run prime95 now it shoots straight up to 100C. I thought something maybe went off with the liquid metal or thermal paste so I redid both (twice now). I ended up getting same temps. If I turn the clocks back to stock I still idle around 50C but prime95 maxes out at 98C. I thought maybe the pump is bad but hw monitor shows the rpm and when I disable the PUMP rpm the temps do go up so that would indicate that the pump is working and I can also feel the vibration in the tubes. I have the be quiet silent loop 2 280mm with two Noctua 3000rpm fans. I'm kinda stumped atm.
My aio keeps running like every 3 mins all the sudden even though cpu temps are fine at like 30° idle, cooling curve is default and I’ve tried even setting it to not go on until it gets a bit hotter but it has a mind of its own. Any ideas?
Can we get a cpu/aio fluid temperature comparison? When im gaming with my 360 aio, my cpu goes from 27 to 40-50 degrees Celsius and my liquid goes from 24 to 30-35 degrees celsius, i want to know if the liquid should be that cold
10:22 “I know Intel at this point would’ve shut off”
Tbh Greg I ain’t so sure because Dawid does tech stuff did a video recently with his 10900K pushing a 5.1GHz all core boost while pegged at 115c!!! on an NZXT motherboard. Maybe it was just his specific chip but if you didn’t use temperature monitoring software then you think that chip was just fine thermally.
AFAIK the maximum safe operating temp might be 90/95/105 depending on the chip, but then they'd shut down after reaching 5-10C more
@@kaziu2eq Yeah, but that depends on the BIOS. You can turn thermal protection off (at least on some mobos), should you want to.
room temp behined the fans and one tub really hot and one not..... you just found the hidden problem thank you!!!!
So I have the i7 12700k with the MSI MAG Series CORELIQUID 240R AIO. lately I have been seeing higher temps both at idle and under load. Games I could run at ultra high settings now send my CPU temps to the high 80s or higher even on low settings. Even just downloading a game sends my temps into the low 80s. In order to get my idle temps into the high 30s/low 40s I even had to lower my RAM frequency. Considering the model of my AIO do you think I could have a blockage building up in the rad or water block? I also hear a crackling noise coming from the pump for about 10-20 seconds when it starts up and even though the one tube gets extremely warm to the touch, the other tube stays very cool and I get no hot air from the exhaust..
hey greg, i’m not sure how to fix the aio fans, this is a brand new aio but the fans aren’t spinning how could i fix this?
Hey Greg how you enjoying The Riftbreaker?
This is like Fix or Flop Behind the Scenes!
Someone gets it! :-D
@@GregSalazar lmao
Is there a way to fix the broken pumps cuz I couldn’t feel fluid floating for mine
So if my radiator is not producing any heat my pumps are bad? is there a way to fix it or do I have to buy a new aio cooler
Question, will a dead pump make a noise similar to a fan hitting debris? I have an awful buzzing noise and I've checked all of my fans. Thanks
I have a loud whirring humming noise coming from what seems to be my AIO. Is that an indication of a bad pump? Only a month old :(
I installed my first AIO (H100i elite capellix) ever, but I was getting the cpu fan error. I have 5 fans hooked up through commander core. RGB as well as the headers. Commander is hooked up to SATA power and the USB header is plugged in. The aio pump is hooked into the cpu fan header, not pump header. I disable the monitoring in bios for cpu fan, and I can get into windows, but then that’s when I get the red flashing of all fans and the pump.
In iCue, the pump only used to show up, now just the commander core shows up. No lights at all from pump.