My father was left by my grandmother in the 1930’s. There were 4 children and she left them all in Ireland and fled to England. My grandfather was an alcoholic and I can only imagine her life must have been terrible to leave her children. I never knew my grandparents so I can’t judge them now but my father and siblings were brought up by his aunt who had her own children. She looked after seven children in rural Ireland and they were very poor. Her kindness was amazing. Life was very hard back then.
Terrible. My maiden name was Farrell and my mother told me many years ago that as a little boy my dad was made to watch his little Yorkshire terrier being drowned in the bath by his alcoholic father.
Very interesting that we can trace our ancestors. Mine emigrated from Scotland to Argentina and later some, to the States. Being able to trace your family history is so eye opening!
Lots of immigrants in the 1950s....even married, left their young babies, children back home with grandparents or relatives whilst they went off to a New World...even happens nowadays. They want to find work , earn, set up a base & then usually send for their child/children or travel back to their home country to bring them over years later.
We discovered after my Gran on my Dad’s side died that his ‘ uncle’ was actually his half brother. It was so sad that even in her old age she never acknowledged him as her illegitimate son. He knew because her Father threw him out at 16 . My Dad was able to reconnect with him and his Family before they both passed but I always thought how hard it must’ve been knowing your own Mother could then would not acknowledge him. Different times indeed.
Yeah, I had a buddy whose father actually disowned him (!) Just for being of a different worldview than the father. Sad that families felt it was so important to "look good" with the community that they would disinherit or illegitimize a family member for being "different" or even disabled.
1921 my grandmother left my dad with her parents and emigrated to USA from Liverpool she was early stages of pregnancy with another child but fudged it a Ellis Island she never came back for my dad he was always bitter about it but she had a hard life when she got to USA
My Grandmother left England and came to Canada at the same time as his great-grandmother and for the same reason. My aunt meet the half sister she had in England years later.... it must have been so hard on all of them but that was the way it was back then
It may well be "cold" to leave your child to live work abroad if you eat daily and can feed your child enough. Emotional motivations are a luxury to people who do not have their physiological needs met. Think Maslow and try to realize that altruism does not frequently flower amongst abject poverty.
People are still leaving their children and families in poorer countries to work in so called 1st world countries. They do so they can send money home. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. One cannot judge the past by today’s standards. If any of us were ‘magically’ transported to the past, how long would we survive? Life is hard on the poor. Choices are very limited, if they even have a choice in some situations. ☘️🌝🌲
Clever conceit. "Oh, noooo, this isn't our illegitimate grandkid, noo, he went with his disgraced mum to Canada, this is a completely different kid that just happens to be the exact same age!"
My great grandad and grandmother were married 19/4/1895, they lived next door to each other in Clontarf, Dublin. Their first child was born 2/7/1895! This marriage didn't last as my great grandad ended up with another woman.
Ha! They were amateurs. My grandparents got married 6th April 1918, and the first (of 9) children was born on 17th April! They couldn’t really complain that my parents got married 4th June 1945 and my eldest brother was born on 26th November….
@@varunsharma3532 100 years is not such a long time really.. I guess you are thriving in the current society? I mean.. we cant judge it apparently..so you must like it?
@@varunsharma3532 cannibalsitic.. right. Do you agree then, that forcing a species to eat food they are not designed to digest ( like making cats and dogs be vegans), is abusive behaviour?
Such were the pressures and cruelties in the lives of the working class back in the good old days of "moral probity and rectitude" that the Tories are working so hard to bring back. Just wait till Rees-Mogg gets those Workhouses up and running again--then you lot will get to experience for yourselves all the joys of being penniless & despised serfs in a new & glorious age of the eternal ruling class.
It's happening everywhere, but it's not just the Tories nor any other national government. "Build Back Better" ,"New Normal" and "You Will Own Nothing and Be Happy" sound familiar? These words seem to be parroted by leaders on both the "right" and the "left".
A woman unwed and with a child in the good old days and in Eire no less, Yeah, i wonder why on earth she left 🤔 What could possibly have forced women and children apart in a highly Catholic conservative country ? So difficult to imagine the reason for leaving ...Such a mystery, really ? 🙄
Women left for work, today you see a lot of women leaving their children to find work and send money home. Society is cruel, whatever the reason, it is never easy to turn your back on your children.
Nope. Don’t start doing that ‘men and women are the same’ rubbish. I know two women who abandoned their kids and husbands. They were both self obsessed and cold and damaged their children’s psyches. It’s bad enough when a father does it, but when your mother demonstrates her complete disregard for what should be her dearest love, it’s devastating.
My father was left by my grandmother in the 1930’s. There were 4 children and she left them all in Ireland and fled to England. My grandfather was an alcoholic and I can only imagine her life must have been terrible to leave her children. I never knew my grandparents so I can’t judge them now but my father and siblings were brought up by his aunt who had her own children. She looked after seven children in rural Ireland and they were very poor. Her kindness was amazing. Life was very hard back then.
Terrible. My maiden name was Farrell and my mother told me many years ago that as a little boy my dad was made to watch his little Yorkshire terrier being drowned in the bath by his alcoholic father.
Very interesting that we can trace our ancestors. Mine emigrated from Scotland to Argentina and later some, to the States. Being able to trace your family history is so eye opening!
Lots of immigrants in the 1950s....even married, left their young babies, children back home with grandparents or relatives whilst they went off to a New World...even happens nowadays.
They want to find work , earn, set up a base & then usually send for their child/children or travel back to their home country to bring them over years later.
We discovered after my Gran on my Dad’s side died that his ‘ uncle’ was actually his half brother. It was so sad that even in her old age she never acknowledged him as her illegitimate son. He knew because her Father threw him out at 16 . My Dad was able to reconnect with him and his Family before they both passed but I always thought how hard it must’ve been knowing your own Mother could then would not acknowledge him. Different times indeed.
Just too sad! 😪
Yeah, I had a buddy whose father actually disowned him (!) Just for being of a different worldview than the father. Sad that families felt it was so important to "look good" with the community that they would disinherit or illegitimize a family member for being "different" or even disabled.
My great grandmother, did the same thing, left my granddad to be raised by her parents, and went to Canada.
1921 my grandmother left my dad with her parents and emigrated to USA from Liverpool she was early stages of pregnancy with another child but fudged it a Ellis Island she never came back for my dad he was always bitter about it but she had a hard life when she got to USA
Love Lee Mack and the show Not Going Out here in the states ❤
Fascinating story on both sides of family
My Grandmother left England and came to Canada at the same time as his great-grandmother and for the same reason. My aunt meet the half sister she had in England years later.... it must have been so hard on all of them but that was the way it was back then
That's quite the journey if one doesn't just board a plane in Liverpool to fly over to Knock, because one's terrified of flying. 🥺Aw, bless him!
Wow thats where my great grandparents were from. Ballina
It may well be "cold" to leave your child to live work abroad if you eat daily and can feed your child enough. Emotional motivations are a luxury to people who do not have their physiological needs met. Think Maslow and try to realize that altruism does not frequently flower amongst abject poverty.
People are still leaving their children and families in poorer countries to work in so called 1st world countries. They do so they can send money home. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t.
One cannot judge the past by today’s standards. If any of us were ‘magically’ transported to the past, how long would we survive? Life is hard on the poor. Choices are very limited, if they even have a choice in some situations.
☘️🌝🌲
A universal truth: being poor is miserably hard work.
It is _exhausting_
Clever conceit. "Oh, noooo, this isn't our illegitimate grandkid, noo, he went with his disgraced mum to Canada, this is a completely different kid that just happens to be the exact same age!"
*Who do you think you are? Lee Mack shocked Great Grandmother fleeing to Canada appreciate your videos Listening 🌟 from Mass USA TYVM 💙*
What happened to the great grandmother once in Canada?
@Nicky L …thank you.
@Nicky L that's not true. I've watched the whole thing.
@@tricia4479 Nicky L said "according to what I've *read*", not "according to what I've seen on youtube," so your comment is rude.
My great grandad and grandmother were married 19/4/1895, they lived next door to each other in Clontarf, Dublin. Their first child was born 2/7/1895! This marriage didn't last as my great grandad ended up with another woman.
Ha! They were amateurs. My grandparents got married 6th April 1918, and the first (of 9) children was born on 17th April! They couldn’t really complain that my parents got married 4th June 1945 and my eldest brother was born on 26th November….
sometimes, time gives us a better perspective of things, doesn't it? Also, Lee's great-gran looks like Millie B. Brown. hehehe
It's Balina right?
Ballina
Ballina, Co.Mayo (as distinct from Ballina, Co. Tipperary).
Didn't this channel used to tell the whole story in one video. I don't like them so chopped up. Is there any place to see the whole show?
BBC i-player
What a shame that society made such a judgment of other's lives.
What a shame that you make such a judgement about society, which too evolves and grows with time, a lot of time
@@varunsharma3532 100 years is not such a long time really.. I guess you are thriving in the current society? I mean.. we cant judge it apparently..so you must like it?
@@Goldenhawk583 I don't judge crocodiles either nor do I judge the extinct cannibalistic homoerectus
Without condoning or condemning, I understand
@@varunsharma3532 cannibalsitic.. right.
Do you agree then, that forcing a species to eat food they are not designed to digest ( like making cats and dogs be vegans), is abusive behaviour?
@@Goldenhawk583 dogs can be vegetarian, don't know about cats
Such were the pressures and cruelties in the lives of the working class back in the good old days of "moral probity and rectitude" that the Tories are working so hard to bring back. Just wait till Rees-Mogg gets those Workhouses up and running again--then you lot will get to experience for yourselves all the joys of being penniless & despised serfs in a new & glorious age of the eternal ruling class.
You sound like a bag of laughs..!?!!
It's happening everywhere, but it's not just the Tories nor any other national government.
"Build Back Better" ,"New Normal" and "You Will Own Nothing and Be Happy" sound familiar? These words seem to be parroted by leaders on both the "right" and the "left".
So sh was sort of like a bond servant.
A woman unwed and with a child in the good old days and in Eire no less, Yeah, i wonder why on earth she left 🤔 What could possibly have forced women and children apart in a highly Catholic conservative country ? So difficult to imagine the reason for leaving ...Such a mystery, really ? 🙄
Also, It's only Éire if you are speak Irish. It's *Ireland to you.
I want to leave and I’m not even there in that situation
Women left for work, today you see a lot of women leaving their children to find work and send money home.
Society is cruel, whatever the reason, it is never easy to turn your back on your children.
The church has a lot of heartbreak and misery to answer for but they ensure it comes too late to compensate 🙁
they ain't answering, but the people are ... but leaving the church
So, that woman talking to him, could be related to him......
Irish records are in a dreadful mess...
The reason for this is the records office was bombed in the War of Independence 1922 and most of the files were destroyed
@@helenowens2303 I was only expressing my own experience... 🙄
No offense taken, I was just saying why it's so bad 😊
@@helenowens2303 that's not true
He clearly has quite a chauvinist view of the difference between mothers and fathers
Nope. Don’t start doing that ‘men and women are the same’ rubbish.
I know two women who abandoned their kids and husbands.
They were both self obsessed and cold and damaged their children’s psyches.
It’s bad enough when a father does it, but when your mother demonstrates her complete disregard for what should be her dearest love, it’s devastating.