I still do not understand Jamaicans/West Indians in general being surprised about slave owning ancestors.. My dad told me all this when I was young in the late 60's/70s. There is always a great chance that your forebears had some dealings/were deep in, slaves and slave owing (whether you are caribbean or English!). I KNOW that my forbears owned slaves. They left land, educated and made sure their children were looked after. My mulatto great great grandfather was something of a land agent/lawyer, who measured out land and settled disputes in the area. Old maps still have the surname on the area of and they owned - my mother's family bought land off them early 1900's and mum never knew until I told her!
I was taught about slavery in history class & the word coming from "slav" = the Slavic people's, who were enslaved. Barbary pirates, took people from western Europe to sell to the Sultans in in the east med area & Asia. The Romans took British as slaves for the Roman empire & in the occupation. So slavery was/is about money not because of the colour of ones skin. Even some African's, = chiefs, etc, who welded power, had their own slaves & sold slaves on. Slaves were usually, the weakest & vulnerable peoples, being powerless. It still goes on today unfortunately, in all parts of the world = people trafficking, is big business, still !
I was so disappointed to learn that someone I came across in my family tree was merely an "in-law" and not a blood relative. He had been transported to Australia for stealing 7 guineas over a period of time from his employer. But my gt grandfather was a convicted poacher, so that pleased me mightily! Salt of the earth that man!
Please feature Brendan O’Carroll’s discovery about the murder of his grandfather by a British army officer. One of the most uncomfortable but compelling WDYTYA revelations ever. Top-notch stuff.
Not all Africans were bought from other Africans. Many were stolen in raids or ambushed. Yes, African Americans who were free purchased other African Americans. Many were family, and some were used as slaves. Emulating white folks.
I have been doing my tree for 25 years. I have found out my grandfather was abusing his first wife in the 1930's (newspaper complaint written) and my dad didn't even know he was previously married. I found 3 suicides, several tragic accidents (one drowning at sea) and one great great uncle murdered. I also learned my ex-husband is my 11th cousin 7 times removed. We all have interesting and shocking histories not just the famous.
True. I remembering decades ago in the late 1980's, hearing a statement from a genealogist (on TV), that if you were a resident in greater London/ the home counties & commuted &/or travelled on that system, then there was a huge likely hood of being related to a stranger in that carriage/train !! Well, at that time, I could not believe it could possibly be true! Until, many years, I began to seriously research my family history. Then, when historical documents were uploaded to the web & then companies like Ancestry, Find My Past, The National Archives, & so on, etc, made researching so much easier & quicker. Going back just 3 or 4 generations or so, one can now see that statement could be feasible! Tracing my tree back by 3 -4 generations filled my tree with hundreds of people all connected to me. Extending further back, brought more distant cousins! We are so much more inter-related, than we think?
What a stupid headline ... all interesting/intriguing, often desperately sad, but not nearly as shocking as implied. Always historically informative,. Just very human stories.
So easy it has become to blame innocent people for things their ancestors did hundreds of years ago. The first slaves in the US were Irish. Bought and sold as they were forced into slavery to pay off debt. I am white Irish descended from these white slaves and yet hated because white people once owned slaves 200 years ago. Nobody remembers there were white slaves and blacks owned slaves too. We have to stop blaming the innocent for crimes that occurred long before they were born.
I bought all the available DVDs from the british series, but I still wonder why series 12 and 4 have not been published, or why there hasn't been a new series on DVD since series 17 (I think). If they were available, I would buy them right away.
There is nothing shameful about being in the Orange order. They were protestants and in those says it was .... us and them, Catholic and Protestants. You have to be Northern Irish to understand the whole history
A clear-cut example of virtue signaling, I think. We’ve done my family genealogy and found that we had a bigamist who abandoned his first wife and three kids (who I’m descended from), then abandoned his second wife, and at the time of his death, he had a third wife and was making ludicrous claims like he was 100 years old (he was 75), and that he’d witnessed the coronation of Queen Victoria and was friends with Abraham Lincoln. I also found out that one of my non-white ancestors owned slaves. But what can I do besides just shake my head? If anyone claims to have a completely virtuous family tree, they’re probably not doing enough research.
Relatives older than my grandparents have absolutely nothing to do with me. I'd be interested, even shocked if I found out bad stuff, but the actions of others doesn't represent me or my values.
For reasons I have never quite understood, posh British rich types are extremely sensitive about their reputations, and see their ancestry as a huge part of that. They border on obsessive about historical traditions and heritage, even though many born into wealth and privileges will almost always have quite dodgy pasts, should anyone dig back far enough, they nonetheless seem to believe it has an almost magical ability to give life meaning, and a sense of purpose. I’d guess that’s the probable origin of the whole ‘white guilt/privilege’ thing and all this business about identity? The upper classes did get online rather late. I suppose the idea is that it played a big part in who you could be? But for the rest of us, history is just graveyard stone, good or bad you can’t change anything long in the past, only acknowledge it and move forward, it really doesn’t affect you or the future unless you let it. Or repeat it.
@@StefferKatzIt has nothing to with virtue signaling and everything to do with being a decent person who’s ashamed of what their ancestors did. It makes you feel like a bad person if they were a bad person.
@@StefferKatz yes, a perfect reply. Virtue signalling, ruining everything these days. Why can't politics, doing good deeds, etc, be a private, personal thing, like ones sex life...?erm I think that's gone the same way = broadcast it to all & sundry? 🤔....?
No offense Watchmojo UK but I feel like I've watched the same videos like 10 times on here. Same goes for Watchmojo and MsMojo too tbh, but cmon Watchmojo UK, we know we can do better than this.
I still do not understand Jamaicans/West Indians in general being surprised about slave owning ancestors.. My dad told me all this when I was young in the late 60's/70s. There is always a great chance that your forebears had some dealings/were deep in, slaves and slave owing (whether you are caribbean or English!). I KNOW that my forbears owned slaves. They left land, educated and made sure their children were looked after. My mulatto great great grandfather was something of a land agent/lawyer, who measured out land and settled disputes in the area. Old maps still have the surname on the area of and they owned - my mother's family bought land off them early 1900's and mum never knew until I told her!
I was taught about slavery in history class & the word coming from "slav" = the Slavic people's, who were enslaved. Barbary pirates, took people from western Europe to sell to the Sultans in in the east med area & Asia. The Romans took British as slaves for the Roman empire & in the occupation.
So slavery was/is about money not because of the colour of ones skin. Even some African's, = chiefs, etc, who welded power, had their own slaves & sold slaves on.
Slaves were usually, the weakest & vulnerable peoples, being powerless. It still goes on today unfortunately, in all parts of the world = people trafficking, is big business, still !
I was so disappointed to learn that someone I came across in my family tree was merely an "in-law" and not a blood relative. He had been transported to Australia for stealing 7 guineas over a period of time from his employer. But my gt grandfather was a convicted poacher, so that pleased me mightily! Salt of the earth that man!
Please feature Brendan O’Carroll’s discovery about the murder of his grandfather by a British army officer. One of the most uncomfortable but compelling WDYTYA revelations ever. Top-notch stuff.
Wait, so history isnt all fluffy kittens and rainbows?
No, not at all. It 's also butterflies and cute rabbits on meadows.
🤣😂😅
I’m sorry you had to find out this way bud
@@hypefinn It could be worse, though. Someone could actually hope to find "the truth" here.
😂
Who knew? I’m shocked!
Why are people still surprised that black people owned slaves?
Who do they think they were bought from originally?
(Hint, it wasn't whuitey)
Not all Africans were bought from other Africans. Many were stolen in raids or ambushed. Yes, African Americans who were free purchased other African Americans. Many were family, and some were used as slaves. Emulating white folks.
I used to be Forsythes Dustman. Really down to earth and always waved at us.Absolute legend was Bruce.😢
I have been doing my tree for 25 years. I have found out my grandfather was abusing his first wife in the 1930's (newspaper complaint written) and my dad didn't even know he was previously married. I found 3 suicides, several tragic accidents (one drowning at sea) and one great great uncle murdered. I also learned my ex-husband is my 11th cousin 7 times removed. We all have interesting and shocking histories not just the famous.
True. I remembering decades ago in the late 1980's, hearing a statement from a genealogist (on TV), that if you were a resident in greater London/ the home counties & commuted &/or travelled on that system, then there was a huge likely hood of being related to a stranger in that carriage/train !! Well, at that time, I could not believe it could possibly be true! Until, many years, I began to seriously research my family history. Then, when historical documents were uploaded to the web & then companies like Ancestry, Find My Past, The National Archives, & so on, etc, made researching so much easier & quicker. Going back just 3 or 4 generations or so, one can now see that statement could be feasible! Tracing my tree back by 3 -4 generations filled my tree with hundreds of people all connected to me. Extending further back, brought more distant cousins! We are so much more inter-related, than we think?
What a stupid headline ... all interesting/intriguing, often desperately sad, but not nearly as shocking as implied. Always historically informative,. Just very human stories.
So easy it has become to blame innocent people for things their ancestors did hundreds of years ago. The first slaves in the US were Irish. Bought and sold as they were forced into slavery to pay off debt. I am white Irish descended from these white slaves and yet hated because white people once owned slaves 200 years ago. Nobody remembers there were white slaves and blacks owned slaves too. We have to stop blaming the innocent for crimes that occurred long before they were born.
I bought all the available DVDs from the british series, but I still wonder why series 12 and 4 have not been published, or why there hasn't been a new series on DVD since series 17 (I think). If they were available, I would buy them right away.
I really felt for Ainsley. I watched that entire episode and he was utterly devastated.
RIP To All The Innocent 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
No one is guilty of their families doing, my distant cousin was drak. ,
There is nothing shameful about being in the Orange order. They were protestants and in those says it was .... us and them, Catholic and Protestants.
You have to be Northern Irish to understand the whole history
Or a Nazi…?
@belfastconor8521 that's a childish ridiculous reply ........
@@sharonhiggins410 I have a degree in History, what about you?
@belfastconor8521 I went to the University of Life in Ulster and then joined the RN ....
This was all so far in the past. Why are the descendants getting offended or embarrassed.
A clear-cut example of virtue signaling, I think. We’ve done my family genealogy and found that we had a bigamist who abandoned his first wife and three kids (who I’m descended from), then abandoned his second wife, and at the time of his death, he had a third wife and was making ludicrous claims like he was 100 years old (he was 75), and that he’d witnessed the coronation of Queen Victoria and was friends with Abraham Lincoln. I also found out that one of my non-white ancestors owned slaves.
But what can I do besides just shake my head? If anyone claims to have a completely virtuous family tree, they’re probably not doing enough research.
Relatives older than my grandparents have absolutely nothing to do with me. I'd be interested, even shocked if I found out bad stuff, but the actions of others doesn't represent me or my values.
For reasons I have never quite understood, posh British rich types are extremely sensitive about their reputations, and see their ancestry as a huge part of that. They border on obsessive about historical traditions and heritage, even though many born into wealth and privileges will almost always have quite dodgy pasts, should anyone dig back far enough, they nonetheless seem to believe it has an almost magical ability to give life meaning, and a sense of purpose.
I’d guess that’s the probable origin of the whole ‘white guilt/privilege’ thing and all this business about identity? The upper classes did get online rather late.
I suppose the idea is that it played a big part in who you could be?
But for the rest of us, history is just graveyard stone, good or bad you can’t change anything long in the past, only acknowledge it and move forward, it really doesn’t affect you or the future unless you let it.
Or repeat it.
@@StefferKatzIt has nothing to with virtue signaling and everything to do with being a decent person who’s ashamed of what their ancestors did. It makes you feel like a bad person if they were a bad person.
@@StefferKatz yes, a perfect reply. Virtue signalling, ruining everything these days. Why can't politics, doing good deeds, etc, be a private, personal thing, like ones sex life...?erm I think that's gone the same way = broadcast it to all & sundry? 🤔....?
It’s not RE-form, it’s re-FORM.
No offense Watchmojo UK but I feel like I've watched the same videos like 10 times on here. Same goes for Watchmojo and MsMojo too tbh, but cmon Watchmojo UK, we know we can do better than this.
over 5 minutes of commercials. thumb down. not even 5 min. into story. boo