I currently have Delonghi Dedica with the pressurized basket system. Will the Barista Pro make a better strong tasting coffee? I find the pressurized system is really mellow tasting coffee. Thanks!
I've had the Barista Express for around 10 months now. Well, i bought it for my fiance but she pulls the worst espresso shots (the gauge doesn't even lift up lol) so I was thinking about getting the touch just so that she can make coffee without much effort. Cos she has no idea how to froth or even tamp properly, no matter how many times I try and teach her! But after reading the reviews about the temp not being hot enough.. I'm not so sure. The barista express is BRILLIANT though, I was a total novice and knew nothing about coffee, but after 10 months I now make barista quality espresso with every shot 😀 it takes time but once you've got the hang of it, it's easy! I can even do latte art lol so yeah, actually, I'm sticking with the barista express!
The Touch is not fully automated nor is it any easier to make good coffee than with the barista express. Yes, you have your touch screen, but YOU are still the one setting grind size, amount of coffee, tamp properly and so on. Only for frothing it is easier.... But as long as you are making bad espresso shots, good frothing doesn't help ;) So yeah, you make a good joice when you stick with the express! And maybe you're fiance learns it over time, or you'll just make her coffee forever :D
@@ma_nu Thanks. She's my wife now lol but yes I'm more than happy with my Barista Express. I do wish I had the easier frothing that comes with the touch but I don't mind actually, frothing has become second nature to me, I'm so good at it now haha. I actually just descaled and back flushed it, gave it a good polish so it's looking brand new again.
@@SuperRowdyTube congrats! Still having tons of issues learning on my express. I mean I’ve been learning a lot about how to make espresso (dosing, yield, beans etc) but can’t seem to figure out this machine. My inner burr is already set much finer. Example, one grind level and my time increases 10 seconds almost. Do you dose manually or just use automatic dose? I’m going to be jealous of you’re auto dosing lol.
@@andrer3764 its your coffee. You need fresh roasted coffee. If coffee is old, you have to use pressurized basket. I was also recommended to return internal grid setting back to 6
@@IYG-x7c those were fresh beans. 2 weeks after roasted date as suggested by roaster. Internal basket I was told it depends on bean… have been a bit better lately. My difference has been using distribution techniques….
I am very indecisive, I would like to buy the Touch barista, because it heats up in 3 seconds, and because of the automatic foam and I do not stress when making the foam, most of my coffees will be American, but I would like to be able to offer cappuccinos to my guests, but I am worried much the issue of durability, I hope you can help me to choose. or well go to the barrista express . I hope you can help me
Hi, when Breville runs their sale the price difference is smaller, so I like the pro over the express. When the sale isn't on the price difference is larger. In terms of durability I would say it is the same across the three models, we have not seen issues with the touch screen. The Barista Touch does have a lot of great features and the auto frothing makes making milk drinks very easy
Because no one talks about the most significant differences? I have the 2 machines at the moment, and I am debating which one to choose, I will mention advantages and disadvantages that I have observed: Barista Express in favor. In 15min more than ready to be used. The most important differences that I observe: Barista Express 1-Ready to use in 15min with portafilters already hot. (Very important to me) 2- The temperature of coffee extraction is 73 degrees Celsius against 65 of the PRO, the water also comes out hotter in BE 3-Durability, due to having less technology, it is a machine that will last longer, I have heard that the Barista Pro (BP) has had many failures, and if they do not make a guarantee, it is a product that you will have to replace faster, since the repair cost is much higher. I'm really almost determined to get the BE even though I know I'm going to miss the speed and power of the Milk steam of the BP. My impression when trying Barista PRO was that the cream was extremely good, but I did an experiment, I used the BP grind and shot from BE the cream came out almost as good as in BP, so I think it's just a matter of finding the perfect grind in BE The advantages that I find in BE are really more important to me. Practicality (I don't have to spend time and filtered water to heat the portafilter). DURABILITY and TEMPERATURE
Thank you for this comparison review. I have not completely decided which one would be best suited for me. I am leaning towards the Touch but hearing that the shots are not hot and only reach 145F. I am concerned about the longevity of the machine as well and how it holds up through the years. Is the Touch just a novelty espresso machine for newbs or do people love it after many many years?
I’ve had the touch for about 5-6 months now and it’s been great. I’ve struggled to get the milk froth perfect in the past while using my friends coffee machine but the automated milk froth is a game changer. Gets the rest of your family or guests more involved in the coffee as well as anyone can give it a crack. Like he says, great for people who just want a hands free experience (great for pick up and go before work *before covid*) and easy user interface.
I have the Pro - purchased yesterday and made my first delicious latte today. Because I drink raw milk I would be very happy to have a machine that only heats milk to 145f which ensures the good flora in the milk is retained. I’m not sure if my Pro can be adjusted to keep the heat at 145f. I would prefer not to use a thermometer.
I’ve had the bambino plus, and it’s great but the problem with those is the portafilter being tough to get off, so we returned it and upgraded to the barista express. Personally I love the barista express, it does just about the same as the rest, the pro, and touch save time in milk frothing and make it more user friendly. So just preference, I wanted to learn how to make a perfect latte without assistance so that was my main reason why I went with the barista express . Plus the barista series have a built in grinder and to have the best flavored espresso is to grind fresh coffee from your local Roastery and buy fresh. So the breville grinder itself is a $200 addition whereas you can get the barista series with the same price of the bambino and the grinder. Hope this helps !
@@Marvleo_05 Oh wow! Thank you so much. This really does help. I think I will still with the bambino express and maybe just buy preground coffee because I'm not in america any more. So, in my country, the difference between the bambino and the barista pro is 500 dollars and I feel like I will enjoy the bambino plus's auto milk steaming more convenient. I really appreciate your input!
I’ ve read that the temperature of espresso using the barista touch does not yield an espresso that is very hot. Now am I am reading that the barista pro also does not yield very hot espresso. A test was done and the temp was about 140 degrees with the hottest setting. This is disappointing as I was ready to purchase a barista pro. Any comment?
@@Fitmiss1010 in cup temperature is a little tricky because there are so many variables. The thermal mass of the cup, wether the cup is preheated or not and also the size of shot. But I will get a reading tomorrow and report back anyways.
iDrinkCoffeeCanada If you could check the brew temperature as well, it would be appreciated. I just want to make sure that this machine makes and adequately hot cup of good espresso.
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada Thanks, but that was not exactly the question. I understand about the tamping. My question is the grinder itself. Is it the same burr set, the same gearbox…. producing the same grind consistency? Or is it better?
@@Gk2003m so much for getting an answer huh? I have all the same questions. I just got a Touch and after seeing the Oracle. I'm thinking I may just return touch and get oracle but it needs to be worth the extra $1,500.
I love my Express. Greatest thing I've ever bought. I considered these higher-priced models, but after months of research, I decided that they are actually inferior to the Express. This is because the two more expensive models are digital; as such, they will quickly cease to function. Digital computer interfaces will inevitably fail. If you agree or disagree, tell me why below. I'm open to being convinced otherwise.
Karl Striepe I agree, I checked before I bought the barista express and the general consensus was that the pro wasn’t worth the extra money. I also disagree with this video as you have more control with the express because it is manual. I also really like the round pressure gauge in the centre as I want to ensure I am dialling in the right grind for my coffee beans.
You wrote this review some time ago. Do you still have the same one and is it working? As far as which one will last longer will primarily depend on the user. All three have cheap electronic components, and will eventually wear down no matter how well treated or seldom you use it. Thats why they arent $5,000-$20,000 like the high quality commercial ones that last. So, I would never base my purchase on that. I would base it on ease of use and how good the quality of the final product is. From what I see here is the touch is far superior as ease of use. Judging by that alone its the winner. The quality is the only thing questionable, but they are all made by the same manufacturer. That leads me to believe the quality would be the same on all three.
Aside from the taste, the 54mm size is a breville-only size. No other manufacturers make portafilters in that size. If you want accessories such as a bottomless portafilter or portafilter rings, you need to specifically find one that is 54mm -- and if you ever upgrade to a different machine (possibly with a 58mm), you'd need to re-purchase all your accessories.
The automatic tamping is only available on the Oracle right now. It's really a unique feature because no other home machine has it. But, unfortunately it is in a higher price range
I'm trying to understand why a more experienced barista would need a digital menu to tell him how to make espresso. I think I'll just stick with my "entry level" barista express that I've been using for five years now. I've been making espresso for twenty years and don't need a machine that tells me "how to do it".
The Pro was the best coffee decision I’ve ever made. It’s gorgeous, makes fantastic espresso and has a great footprint for its function.
Do you still love it after 4 months of use? I haven't decided on which one, the Pro or the Touch.
Kat M Yessir! Stick with the Pro, you’ll love it. 😊
@@jamesb.ofdesertdistrict567 do you have issues with the temperature? I've been reading that the shots don't get more than 140F.
Tyler B Yet Breville is fully aware of the heating problem and sending them replacement parts and new machines.
@@jamesb.ofdesertdistrict567 Is there a warranty on this machine?
Just enjoy my new guest house : the Barista Pro , proud of it , excellent machine. Cheers !
Which version is the best? I m looking to buy one.
I currently have Delonghi Dedica with the pressurized basket system. Will the Barista Pro make a better strong tasting coffee? I find the pressurized system is really mellow tasting coffee. Thanks!
In my opinion the Delonghi Dedica shots are very weak compared to the breville
I've had the Barista Express for around 10 months now. Well, i bought it for my fiance but she pulls the worst espresso shots (the gauge doesn't even lift up lol) so I was thinking about getting the touch just so that she can make coffee without much effort. Cos she has no idea how to froth or even tamp properly, no matter how many times I try and teach her! But after reading the reviews about the temp not being hot enough.. I'm not so sure. The barista express is BRILLIANT though, I was a total novice and knew nothing about coffee, but after 10 months I now make barista quality espresso with every shot 😀 it takes time but once you've got the hang of it, it's easy! I can even do latte art lol so yeah, actually, I'm sticking with the barista express!
The Touch is not fully automated nor is it any easier to make good coffee than with the barista express. Yes, you have your touch screen, but YOU are still the one setting grind size, amount of coffee, tamp properly and so on. Only for frothing it is easier.... But as long as you are making bad espresso shots, good frothing doesn't help ;)
So yeah, you make a good joice when you stick with the express! And maybe you're fiance learns it over time, or you'll just make her coffee forever :D
@@ma_nu Thanks. She's my wife now lol but yes I'm more than happy with my Barista Express. I do wish I had the easier frothing that comes with the touch but I don't mind actually, frothing has become second nature to me, I'm so good at it now haha. I actually just descaled and back flushed it, gave it a good polish so it's looking brand new again.
@@SuperRowdyTube congrats! Still having tons of issues learning on my express. I mean I’ve been learning a lot about how to make espresso (dosing, yield, beans etc) but can’t seem to figure out this machine. My inner burr is already set much finer. Example, one grind level and my time increases 10 seconds almost. Do you dose manually or just use automatic dose? I’m going to be jealous of you’re auto dosing lol.
@@andrer3764 its your coffee. You need fresh roasted coffee. If coffee is old, you have to use pressurized basket. I was also recommended to return internal grid setting back to 6
@@IYG-x7c those were fresh beans. 2 weeks after roasted date as suggested by roaster. Internal basket I was told it depends on bean… have been a bit better lately. My difference has been using distribution techniques….
I am very indecisive, I would like to buy the Touch barista, because it heats up in 3 seconds, and because of the automatic foam and I do not stress when making the foam, most of my coffees will be American, but I would like to be able to offer cappuccinos to my guests, but I am worried much the issue of durability, I hope you can help me to choose. or well go to the barrista express . I hope you can help me
Hi, when Breville runs their sale the price difference is smaller, so I like the pro over the express. When the sale isn't on the price difference is larger. In terms of durability I would say it is the same across the three models, we have not seen issues with the touch screen. The Barista Touch does have a lot of great features and the auto frothing makes making milk drinks very easy
What is the difference between express 875 and 870?
The touch works for me. Working from home I've added a new hobby and I love it.
Because no one talks about the most significant differences?
I have the 2 machines at the moment, and I am debating which one to choose, I will mention advantages and disadvantages that I have observed:
Barista Express in favor. In 15min more than ready to be used.
The most important differences that I observe:
Barista Express
1-Ready to use in 15min
with portafilters already hot. (Very important to me)
2- The temperature of coffee extraction is 73 degrees Celsius against 65 of the PRO, the water also comes out hotter in BE
3-Durability, due to having less technology, it is a machine that will last longer, I have heard that the Barista Pro (BP) has had many failures, and if they do not make a guarantee, it is a product that you will have to replace faster, since the repair cost is much higher.
I'm really almost determined to get the BE even though I know I'm going to miss the speed and power of the Milk steam of the BP.
My impression when trying Barista PRO was that the cream was extremely good, but I did an experiment, I used the BP grind and shot from BE the cream came out almost as good as in BP, so I think it's just a matter of finding the perfect grind in BE
The advantages that I find in BE are really more important to me. Practicality (I don't have to spend time and filtered water to heat the portafilter). DURABILITY and TEMPERATURE
Since you sell a ton of em can I buy one from you for the price you got it for ? I’m broke 😑
Thank you for this comparison review. I have not completely decided which one would be best suited for me. I am leaning towards the Touch but hearing that the shots are not hot and only reach 145F. I am concerned about the longevity of the machine as well and how it holds up through the years. Is the Touch just a novelty espresso machine for newbs or do people love it after many many years?
I’ve had the touch for about 5-6 months now and it’s been great. I’ve struggled to get the milk froth perfect in the past while using my friends coffee machine but the automated milk froth is a game changer. Gets the rest of your family or guests more involved in the coffee as well as anyone can give it a crack. Like he says, great for people who just want a hands free experience (great for pick up and go before work *before covid*) and easy user interface.
Thats true about the shots not being hot for barista touch, I had the machine for a while decided to return it, not looking for another.
I have the Pro - purchased yesterday and made my first delicious latte today. Because I drink raw milk I would be very happy to have a machine that only heats milk to 145f which ensures the good flora in the milk is retained. I’m not sure if my Pro can be adjusted to keep the heat at 145f. I would prefer not to use a thermometer.
@@SuperTB95is your Machine still working well?
@@imtrash1894 Yep still works perfectly, using it everyday with the regular descale and cleaning cycles.
Came nicely packaged! Amazing Product!! Would buy again. Love it.
i wanna know whether i should get the barista pro or bambino plus? could you make a video explaining the difference?
I’ve had the bambino plus, and it’s great but the problem with those is the portafilter being tough to get off, so we returned it and upgraded to the barista express. Personally I love the barista express, it does just about the same as the rest, the pro, and touch save time in milk frothing and make it more user friendly. So just preference, I wanted to learn how to make a perfect latte without assistance so that was my main reason why I went with the barista express . Plus the barista series have a built in grinder and to have the best flavored espresso is to grind fresh coffee from your local Roastery and buy fresh. So the breville grinder itself is a $200 addition whereas you can get the barista series with the same price of the bambino and the grinder. Hope this helps !
@@Marvleo_05 Oh wow! Thank you so much. This really does help. I think I will still with the bambino express and maybe just buy preground coffee because I'm not in america any more. So, in my country, the difference between the bambino and the barista pro is 500 dollars and I feel like I will enjoy the bambino plus's auto milk steaming more convenient. I really appreciate your input!
Why no mention of the actual price in this comparison video? Decision to purchase is based on price and features of the device.
Pricing and sales change over time, this way our videos remain accurate over time.
All of them are great machines
I will prefer the duo temp pro and get a separate grinder just as a real pro 😉👍
I agree. Less equipment to go wrong
I’ ve read that the temperature of espresso using the barista touch does not yield an espresso that is very hot. Now am I am reading that the barista pro also does not yield very hot espresso. A test was done and the temp was about 140 degrees with the hottest setting. This is disappointing as I was ready to purchase a barista pro. Any comment?
I can measure the temperature but first please tell me are you referring to extraction or in cup temperature?
iDrinkCoffeeCanada in cup temperature.
@@Fitmiss1010 in cup temperature is a little tricky because there are so many variables. The thermal mass of the cup, wether the cup is preheated or not and also the size of shot. But I will get a reading tomorrow and report back anyways.
iDrinkCoffeeCanada If you could check the brew temperature as well, it would be appreciated. I just want to make sure that this machine makes and adequately hot cup of good espresso.
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada how did the test go? I got the pro and have enjoyed using it for a few months. But never checked the temps
Great video. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
Barista express just because it has the pressure gauge!
You mention that with the Pro you can almost immediately switch from brewing espresso to steaming milk. How long does it take with the Express?
I would estimate about 60 seconds for the heating element to heat up to steaming temperature
is breville touch as fast as breville pro?!
Is there a warranty on this machine?
2 years
Is the grinder in these the same as the grinder in the Oracle machines?
No it is not, the Oracle machines feature automatic tamping which the barista series do not have
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada Thanks, but that was not exactly the question. I understand about the tamping. My question is the grinder itself. Is it the same burr set, the same gearbox…. producing the same grind consistency? Or is it better?
@@Gk2003m so much for getting an answer huh? I have all the same questions. I just got a Touch and after seeing the Oracle. I'm thinking I may just return touch and get oracle but it needs to be worth the extra $1,500.
I love my Express. Greatest thing I've ever bought. I considered these higher-priced models, but after months of research, I decided that they are actually inferior to the Express. This is because the two more expensive models are digital; as such, they will quickly cease to function. Digital computer interfaces will inevitably fail. If you agree or disagree, tell me why below. I'm open to being convinced otherwise.
Karl Striepe I agree, I checked before I bought the barista express and the general consensus was that the pro wasn’t worth the extra money. I also disagree with this video as you have more control with the express because it is manual. I also really like the round pressure gauge in the centre as I want to ensure I am dialling in the right grind for my coffee beans.
Express can generate more fun when making coffee. I will definitely choose express.
A mate bought the express and the first thing to break in a year was the pressure gauge… go figure
You wrote this review some time ago. Do you still have the same one and is it working? As far as which one will last longer will primarily depend on the user. All three have cheap electronic components, and will eventually wear down no matter how well treated or seldom you use it. Thats why they arent $5,000-$20,000 like the high quality commercial ones that last. So, I would never base my purchase on that. I would base it on ease of use and how good the quality of the final product is. From what I see here is the touch is far superior as ease of use. Judging by that alone its the winner. The quality is the only thing questionable, but they are all made by the same manufacturer. That leads me to believe the quality would be the same on all three.
Barista Touch dual boiler? Thanks.
No, it has a single thermoblock. It does change temperature very fast but you cannot steam and make espresso at the same time
Thank you! Excellent informative video.
I wish either of these came with a 58mm head instead of the 54mm. That's the only drawback I see.
Grimok Very much agree. Very very much!
Aside from the taste, the 54mm size is a breville-only size. No other manufacturers make portafilters in that size. If you want accessories such as a bottomless portafilter or portafilter rings, you need to specifically find one that is 54mm -- and if you ever upgrade to a different machine (possibly with a 58mm), you'd need to re-purchase all your accessories.
The dual boiler uses 58mm if that interests you!
@@delena747 or the Oracle
I have the first 1 but its says "SAGE", not Breville?.
Hi, you are likely in the UK. They are branded as Sage there but it's the same machine
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada I thought as much
Excellent review!! Thank you 🙏🏻😁
Great video, thanks!
YOU FORGOT ONE, you forgot to mention the BREVILLE IMPRESS ESPRESSO MACHINE BES876BSS
The Impress was not out at the time this was filmed. We will be doing an updated video in the future.
i need just espresso maker, no milk,,,,,, whihc one s for me?
Nihat Hattat Take the Barista Pro . Just bought it and it’s excellent
Great stuff!
Someone knows anything about the barista max? Heating system?
How much
I want a grinder with an auto tamp under $800 dont care about 2nd heat source or milk control of any kind... get on it breville...
The automatic tamping is only available on the Oracle right now. It's really a unique feature because no other home machine has it. But, unfortunately it is in a higher price range
That would be the Philips 3200 LatteGo.
Like touch one better, but it just has black and silver one, want a white color, but just pro has
I'm trying to understand why a more experienced barista would need a digital menu to tell him how to make espresso. I think I'll just stick with my "entry level" barista express that I've been using for five years now. I've been making espresso for twenty years and don't need a machine that tells me "how to do it".
great video - thanks!