ALL MY COFFEE STUFF + DISCOUNTS: www.hijabsandaprons.com/coffee I hope my review was helpful for you all! One aspect I forgot to cover was the tamper that comes with the machine. I likely forgot about it because I deliberately replaced it ASAP after getting my machine. I do not like it at all. The Breville tamper is plastic, too lightweight, and leaves the edges of the espresso puck untouched/untamped. So I highly recommend getting a heavier, durable tamper (traditional or palm tamper) that fits snug in the 54mm portafilters. ✌🏼Peace
The Breville tamper is designed to work with the weird portafilter basket that has sloped edges at the top and then straight edges below. It seems to be their attempt to idiot-proof tamping. The tamper is too small in the top slopes section (which is why they provide a weird “razor” tool to scrape the sides), and it is too big to fit into the straight walled section, presumably to keep you from tamping “too much”. I plan to replace the portafilter and basket and tamper all at once!
The Dual Boiler is best machine in the range and rivals the best in the business up to the 2-3k level, its way ahead of any of the Breville range bar the other dual boiler ones although they have issues of making them too consumer focused, nothing comes close. I had to go with the Bambino + as the other half doesn't like the size of the DB which was really sad for me.
Sister, you've gone above and beyond with this review. I'm a salesman and technician for these here in Australia and am blown away by the level of insight and the research you've made, and the photography is next level. Keep it up !
I have the pro (10 months) and just added a niche! It is a game changer!!! Unbelievable taste difference and easy to use! Loved your video!!! Thank you!!!
This is a great comparison. I've also had my Barista Pro for about a year and totally agree with your assessment. I recently switched from steaming after pulling a shot to steaming first and then pulling the shot while doing the standard "swirl" to fully homogenize the milk texture. It's not perfect, but I've found it goes a little bit faster for me.
Been on the hunt for a serious brew machine, I KNEW it'd be Breville because I trust that brand, and your video helped with my decision. Pick my new Breville Pro up tomorrow and I can't wait to start dialling things in.
Thanks so much for your videos on the Barista Pro! I recently purchased one and thanks to your videos I was pulling near perfect shots within 15 minutes. Also on a side note they now include a dosing funnel with the Barista Pro which makes the process much easier.
This was such a helpful review, especially for someone looking to buy their first espresso machine. So many other reviews go into so much detail, they're overwhelming.
Great video - I went for the Barista Express as a first machine, had it for about 2 years and it SAVED me during lockdown while all my friends and neighbors had to go without a decent coffee for months. I had no idea they sold levers for the steam wand. This is EXACTLY what I need as I usually hold the milk jar with my right hand and have to use my left to turn off the wand and in most cases I am simply not strong enough to close it with the weaker hand at a weird angle.
Just bought my barista pro. Upgraded from a delonghi EC-702, your video really solidified that I made the right decision going with the barista pro. Great video!
I've been using the Pro for more than a year now and I'm still enjoying it. The grinder is a good entry grinder especially for medium-darker beans, but in addition to your review, you should know that the 0,5g beans that is trapped on top of the grinder is not all.. the dead space of grinded beans is about 2,5g. In my experience, although I get ~17g of grinded material out if putting in 17g, about 2,5g is old - and then again 2,5g of the newly grinded beans remain in the grinder's dead space. That's why I just ordered a single dose hopper and bellow kit. Cheers
Something like this amzn.to/43DZknS It has enough space for just one dose (instead of storing beans in the hopper) and the rippled bellows allow you to pump the last couple beans/chunks through the grinder to minimize retention. Hope that helps!
I turn on my Barista plus for at least 10 mins before I make coffee and always do a clear shot before making the first cup to condition the basket and group head plus heat the cup. Even the second cup is a better temperature the first which just doesn't quite make it. To be fair a professional will espress a couple of shots and dump them at start up. I have made coffee with a friends dual boiler and the same coffee beans produce a slightly richer, smoother coffee but the Barista plus or Pro still makes a "great" coffee for less than half the price of a duel boiler and grinder. Often a coffee from a professional barista at a cafe can be disappointing in spite of the superb equipment they have.
I’ve watched your videos and thought “hmmm… they must have fixed that annoying steam/hot water knob on newer models”. Nope! It’s an upgrade! Thank you for this!
Great review. I own a Breville Barista Pro (have it for a month now). The heating issue is annoying, but the machine is perfect in many ways, so I am glad with my choice. Thank you for your great videos!
finally...someone with an honest and UNBIASED review. I'll def stick with the double boiler. I was having a hard time figuring out which one to buy....the pro or the dual boiler. Thanks for the tip and Salamalekom.
I purchased my Barista Pro in the beginning of this year and watched a few of your videos to help me make a decision. I wanted a clean looking, all in one machine, that doesn't take up too much counter space. My experience so far has been mostly similar. I drink espresso most of the times, so I usually run two blank shots to heat up the grouphead, portafilter and cup. The only complaints I've had so far are the slow steam wand, that you mentioned. And I've found the chromed parts on the drip tray and the splash plate are easily scratched by cups or the occasional bump of the portafilter.
This was a great review. I want to buy a barista pro and watched many reviews for it but yours has really pointed the finger to the problems that may come up. Thank you!
Pro tip you should fill the hopper all the way for consistent grind. It will also help with the beans being left on the side. It will grind what it's supposed to. You are never going to have every been grid and you should be cleaning it regularly. Getting all the oils out.
I don't store beans in the hopper because I try different beans often and brew decaf in the afternoon. Also, I think it'll be an allegedly "consistent" grind amount until you get to the end of the bag/hopper and realize ~15g is missing from your originally-300g bag 🙃 Regardless of your hopper/single-dose method, always weigh your ground coffee (after grinding..) to determine your dose amount! And yes with this grinder you won't have zero retention but there are grinders out there that get you quite close to it 😊
Excellent review! I own a Barista Pro for more than a year now. Grinder and its rentention is a bit frustrating. Planning to get a standalone single dosing grinder. Hope the temperature stability could be better. I keep the machine switched on for atleast 20 mins before i pull my shot. Hope that helps others too.
Thanks for this review and yes, I have had the exact same path (even the same accessories) and ownership experience/satisfaction. I figure I will live with the Pro for 5 years and then upgrade to a Dual Boiler or similar.
Great review video! I understand that you're single dose user so I would recommend a dedicated single dose grinder that has a built-in bellow. Hope that helps.
Thank you for your video! I wont regret at all our barista pro. 2 years after now... at that time I thought it was too much machine and principal $$, but, at a long shot, it just works...
Thank you this review/ feedback was just what I was looking for. I am just planning to buy and funny enough I was just looking at the exact two models and for the same reasons I was leaning more towards the pro ;) thank you , great video
5:37 No analogy needed, it’s simple,.. Dual Boiler allows you to brew and steam at the same time thus saving you time. ….your DSLR analogy on the other hand is pretty good 😂👍🏼
Very good review. A few pointers, you always need to swirl your espresso when doing latte art. that is how you do it. As for the Barista Pro, I totaly agree on the fact that the grinder is the weakest part. It took me a year to buy a Rocket Faustino and I don´t regret it. The only reason you buy a Breville is it's simplicity, the fact you have a screen and you can program the volumetrics. Otherwise you should consider buying a Gaggia or a Rancilio. It will just give you more options changing your grinder or machine in the future. And FYI You should get a WDT tool, it helps a lot and specially with the Breville grinder
Hey there! Alsalam alaykom, I remember asking you about your thoughts about the Barista pro months ago and by far this is the best review of the machine out there! And by the way since then I’ve made the decision to go with the barista pro for your exact same reasons, And i have to say i absolutely love it! It’s by far not a flawless machine, but the fact that you get a decent grinder and all around good espresso machine for this price point is definitely worth it especially for someone just getting into the home barista world. I would recommend trying RDT as it helped me a little with the retention + getting an IMS basket as it helps getting better more consistent shots (note that you will have to grind finer with it). Thank you for the review and I wish you enjoy the rest of your day. ♥️
This is the info/vid I was looking for. Thank you :) I'm going to look at the dual boiler instead, of the Barista Pro and will check your other vidz. Great vid production by the way.
I have had a Bambino Plus for about six months now and I have an Encore ESP (as well as a Kingrinder K6) and I must say that all of your cons list (grinder aside) applies to the BBP as well. Except, you don't get any of the pros. The auto steaming feature on the Bambino is "meh". And even with a separate grinder, the ESP, I have to bang on the lid. Though, only if single dosing. I notice that if I have the hopper filled with my daily beans + about 10 percent I get closer to what I put in out of it, if that makes sense. I think that the same might be true of the built in as well, based on some other videos. The difference being, a much more streamline workflow with a built in, or so it would seem. That said, as I mentioned in the ESP video, if I had to do it again, I would have gone for the Pro and got a hand grinder for decaf and specialty beans. Particularly in my case where I am making coffee for 3-4 different people regularly and I am the only one who drinks medium to medium light roasted specialty coffee. I think this would be the case even more so if the others in my household were the ones using the machine. My wife won't make coffee with the Bambino Plus because the workflow is annoying for her. Single dosing and all of that. Anyway, having not used the Pro I still think it fair to say that it is a better overall package for most people than the Bambino and a separate grinder. Particularly if you just want a good coffee and are not a hobbyist. Thank you for these videos!
Thanks so much for this insight!! I haven't worked with the Bambino line myself and was mostly going off what users told me directly of their experiences. But all their standalone grinders varied, of course. I appreciate you sharing your experience for others to see! Hope it helps others who are checking the comments! 😊
A single-dose grinder conversion will take care of that retention issue. I have one and I love mine. I also soften my filtered water in a separate pitcher with Osmotic Scale Reduction (O.Sca.R) Cloth Pack/Limescale Inhibitor. A puck screen to keep the grounds away from the shower screen. Trying to do what I can to protect my investment. Good luck.
Earlier this year I bought a Breville dual-boiler and smart grinder. Yes, the two of them take up quite a bit more counter space than your Barista Pro, and I have less counter space than you! On the other hand it is a dual-boiler, which is a feature I wanted. The Smart Grinder is definitely under-powered for making espressos several times a day, so I replaced it with a more powerful one. Other than that, I'm happy with my purchase.
Hi how r u? Really awesome that I found your channel. After a long and similar research to yours, I was going back and forth between bambino plus, barista pro and the dual boiler and I thought for the budget I want to spend, I got the pro and am glad I made the right choice based on this video. I am totally new and starting out so I think this was a great choice to start with. I saw here that a lot of coffee gets stuck so was wondering what portable handheld vacuum that you use. I’m trying to see if there’s something like that in indonesia. All the best and keep on posting videos
I bought the dual boiler for my first 😂. I already had a DF64 gen2 grinder and was decent at dialing grind sizes for pour overs, moka pots, and joe presso's. I was leaning towards the Pro but the thermo coils were a hard no.
Amazing video and super helpful, thank you for making it. I am in the market for my first machine and really worried about making the wrong choice. Torn between going proper prosumer and getting a more advanced espresso machine and separate grinder, or just try out a cheaper all in one set up like this machine, as after a while you get into the groove of running blank shots to heat up sufficiently or tweaking the grinder. My worry is though as i get more into it (if i do), i don't want to find myself in the position of having to buy a separate grinder for an already all in one machine and getting annoyed at the output temperature. I appreciate this is a massive first world problem!! My question for you though, if budget wasn't an issue and you went with the dual boiler machine and separate grinder, do you think its worth staying with sage/breville or maybe looking at more prosumer machine brands? I looked at the rocket appartamento but that is 30 min warm up time apparently, which completely wrote that machine off for me!
Excellent video! Ive been watching your channel for some time now. You've kinda inspired me to buy this BUT I'm worried about it's longevity. I've had a chance to buy one that's 5 month old but I'm hesitant. I don't know if I'd be better off buying another Gaggia Classic to replace the old second hand one I have, which has recently broken (it's around 20 years old, and could probably still be fixed).
Hi Leena! Nicely done, cinematic video and review. I particularly liked the part where you showed your decision making process. If you do get a standalone grinder in the future, I would REALLY recommend a Specialita/Manuale over the Sette. The Sette is deafeningly loud. I got rid of mine after 3 months. Btw, which camera and lens do you use? -Tom
Very helpful video :). I sincerely love your videos. Is there any particular reason you seem to only really be considering the Sage/Breville lines? Have you considered other brands/manufacturers? I bought the barista pro a few months ago. I had to get the first one replaced because of a panel gap defect. But then the second one sadly broke after only a few months. I managed to get a full refund from the retailer after my second Barista Pro broke. In the end, I have now went for the Rancilio Silvia Pro X.
This review is great! But it does keep annoying me about the “thermo coil” that heating system is the one that uses the breville barista express which can take 30 seconds to reach optimal heating at least even turning the steam wand can take 40 seconds. In the other hand the barista pro uses a heating system called a thermo-jet it’s faster taking 3 seconds to heat using the steam wand takes 10 seconds to purge but saying that the barista pro uses a “thermo coil” is not right.
Ah yes I understand, but I think I mentioned thermocoil because it literally is a coil that is flattened. It's still shaped like a coil, but that coil doesn't climb up a block as it does in the Barista Express. Also even though it is capable of producing shots more quickly after being turned on, you've got to run a couple dummy shot cycles to properly heat up the grouphead and portafilter. I've heard that in the Barista Express, even the portafilter can get warm while the machine heats up. In any case, I apologize because I didn't mean to imply the two heating mechanisms are the same. But if you look at a picture of the thermal coil for the Barista Pro, you'll see it is still a coil but flattened into a disc-like shape
No, this is the bottomless portafilters I have and I use the baskets that came with them: bit.ly/3wt2fVs Shower screen is stock, though! Thank you for watching 😊
You might need to preheat your portafilter before you make your first shot in order to get it to temp. That's why your subsequent shots are within the specified temps.
Thanks for the review! I'm interested in the Pro, and I see it has a ThermoJet heating system now. I wonder if that's a recent change from the ThermaCoil system after you bought your machine? It's supposed to heat up in seconds.
Hello, your videos have such a high quality. It's a shame you have such little exposure so far. Have you tried youtube shorts or tiktok for more exposure?
Been loving your videos…. May I ask where you got your brass looking coffee bean scoop/ bag clip? It’s not listed in your “ coffee stuff” web page. Thank you so much
Great review! I love hearing from people who’ve actually owned and operated a product for an extended time. I have a question, does the black truffle color get scratches and reveal the color underneath? From your video it looks almost brand new still. We just purchased this same barista pro in the black truffle and I love it, but I’ve heard it can get scratched and I’m worried about the long term look.
Thanks so much for watching!! I have not had any scratches at all. I dropped my drip tray once and it got a tiny dent in the front corner plastic but no paint came off 🤣
Hi, I just bought a Breville Barista Touch. Thanks to your videos I wanted my own espresso machine😍, I adjusted the grinder like you did. Finally after 5 failed espressos hahaha it extracted the coffee at sec 8 and with crema, I used my decaf beans from Veracruz, México but need to try non decaf. Nevertheless it came out great, I usually drink capuccino, and still fail with my coffee art 🥲. Have you compared the barista touch vs barista pro ? I want to know your opinion about the touch. Thanks again for doing these videos. 💞
I've had the Barista pro about two years now and got to say it makes a great cup of coffee. However now it lies dormant, because after back flushing it stops operating after 5secs, possibly due to a air lock. It happened before after back flushing and a local man repaired it.Breville wants their machines mended by them, so spares are hard to come by and most repairers won't touch them. So due to my experience I would never buy this brand again.
Yes its a great machine , but its hard to get someone to repair it except Sage. Mine was out of action for 3months before getting through to their help line. It was only operating for 5secs before cutting out. This is a common problem after back flushing. The simple solution is to restore factory settings. It may take a few go s to fix.
Wow. My barista pro after a day or two of grinding coffee has at most a .1 gram retention. And usually I’d spot on. I don’t know if I got a good machine or I’m just lucky. But I have never had a problem with retention.
Could you talk about water management? I haven’t seen it addressed by people using these machines with large water reservoirs. Do you empty and fill fresh daily? If you are making espresso on a daily basis do you use the water left in the reservoir for a couple of days, and then wash the tank with soap and water after 2-3 days or more??
Excelente review!! Thanks it help a lot. I’m making the exact decision. But I am deciding between the barista pro and the Diletta Bello Espresso Machine. I heard excellent review about this machine but it’s a little bit more pricey and I have to also buy a nice griner so it’s going to be double of the investment. What will be your suggestion being this my first express machine ? Thanks again 🫶
Thank you for your in depth review and all your videos about this machine! I just recently purchased this exact machine in the same color and am super excited to make better coffee! I was just wondering if its normal to get water drops on top the plastic part labeled steam & water purger system? I found alot of water accumulation there as I pulled out my drip tray. And is it normal to accumulate water in the drip tray because I never purge my steam directly in there, so I dont know why theres so much water. Thank you!!
Hello, love this video. What were your thoughts on the Breville Oracle when you were deciding on which machine to get (not factoring its expensive price tag)?
@@HijabsandAprons Yes, the dose is correct. And I adjusted my grinder manually after I wrote this question (to 3) and it looks much better already. I will continue today and see if I can repeat my already good result from yesterday! Thanks.
Thank you for watching! Yes I have, and I'm stuck wondering whether or not I'll be getting a dual boiler anytime soon (even within a year). If I think I will, then I will wait to get the standalone grinder at the same time. If not, then I might get one sooner. Leaning toward a Baratza Sette (any of them, really) or a Niche. But I haven't done too much research yet. What about you??
@@HijabsandAprons Yeah I'm leaning towards a Baratza Sette 270 or Eureka Mignon Silenzio grinder. I have the same model just in stainless steel and was in the same boat of deciding between the Pro or Bambino Plus too!
@HijabsandAprons thank you very much for your response. I think I'm going to get the Bambino Plus and then throw my budget for my birthday, Christmas etc for myself into a Niche Zero.
@HijabsandAprons it seems like the absolute ultimate pairing in ease-of-use, least mess and most versatile ( for those last-minute hands-off kind of days or really dialing something in with a bottomless portafilter) for the $$ and quality output.
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I hope my review was helpful for you all! One aspect I forgot to cover was the tamper that comes with the machine. I likely forgot about it because I deliberately replaced it ASAP after getting my machine. I do not like it at all. The Breville tamper is plastic, too lightweight, and leaves the edges of the espresso puck untouched/untamped. So I highly recommend getting a heavier, durable tamper (traditional or palm tamper) that fits snug in the 54mm portafilters.
✌🏼Peace
The Breville tamper is designed to work with the weird portafilter basket that has sloped edges at the top and then straight edges below. It seems to be their attempt to idiot-proof tamping. The tamper is too small in the top slopes section (which is why they provide a weird “razor” tool to scrape the sides), and it is too big to fit into the straight walled section, presumably to keep you from tamping “too much”.
I plan to replace the portafilter and basket and tamper all at once!
The Dual Boiler is best machine in the range and rivals the best in the business up to the 2-3k level, its way ahead of any of the Breville range bar the other dual boiler ones although they have issues of making them too consumer focused, nothing comes close. I had to go with the Bambino + as the other half doesn't like the size of the DB which was really sad for me.
Your videos are some of the best in this category: Thorough, informative, well crafted, with clear objectives and honest answers.
Thank you so much for watching and for your feedback/compliments!! 🙏🏼 I'm really happy to hear that my work paid off and is helpful 🙂
Sister, you've gone above and beyond with this review. I'm a salesman and technician for these here in Australia and am blown away by the level of insight and the research you've made, and the photography is next level. Keep it up !
I have the pro (10 months) and just added a niche! It is a game changer!!! Unbelievable taste difference and easy to use!
Loved your video!!! Thank you!!!
This is a great comparison. I've also had my Barista Pro for about a year and totally agree with your assessment. I recently switched from steaming after pulling a shot to steaming first and then pulling the shot while doing the standard "swirl" to fully homogenize the milk texture. It's not perfect, but I've found it goes a little bit faster for me.
Been on the hunt for a serious brew machine, I KNEW it'd be Breville because I trust that brand, and your video helped with my decision. Pick my new Breville Pro up tomorrow and I can't wait to start dialling things in.
Thanks so much for your videos on the Barista Pro! I recently purchased one and thanks to your videos I was pulling near perfect shots within 15 minutes. Also on a side note they now include a dosing funnel with the Barista Pro which makes the process much easier.
I wish. I didn’t get one with mine…. Going to buy one. Just bought it after Christmas 23.
This was such a helpful review, especially for someone looking to buy their first espresso machine. So many other reviews go into so much detail, they're overwhelming.
I did not expect my photography to be attacked in here 😅
🤣🤣 thanks for watching and for making me laugh
Great video - I went for the Barista Express as a first machine, had it for about 2 years and it SAVED me during lockdown while all my friends and neighbors had to go without a decent coffee for months. I had no idea they sold levers for the steam wand. This is EXACTLY what I need as I usually hold the milk jar with my right hand and have to use my left to turn off the wand and in most cases I am simply not strong enough to close it with the weaker hand at a weird angle.
Just bought my barista pro. Upgraded from a delonghi EC-702, your video really solidified that I made the right decision going with the barista pro. Great video!
you don't know how happy I become after hearing Alsalm Alikom ❤
Thanks so much. I’ve had mine for 4 months or so, and your video on changing the grinder range saved me! Great content ❤
Wow, really love your composition, typography and aesthetics in general. Glad to discover your channel!
I've been using the Pro for more than a year now and I'm still enjoying it. The grinder is a good entry grinder especially for medium-darker beans, but in addition to your review, you should know that the 0,5g beans that is trapped on top of the grinder is not all.. the dead space of grinded beans is about 2,5g. In my experience, although I get ~17g of grinded material out if putting in 17g, about 2,5g is old - and then again 2,5g of the newly grinded beans remain in the grinder's dead space. That's why I just ordered a single dose hopper and bellow kit. Cheers
Noob here. 😁 What is a "single dose hopper" and "bellow kit". Is it an upgrade for this machine?
Something like this amzn.to/43DZknS
It has enough space for just one dose (instead of storing beans in the hopper) and the rippled bellows allow you to pump the last couple beans/chunks through the grinder to minimize retention. Hope that helps!
I turn on my Barista plus for at least 10 mins before I make coffee and always do a clear shot before making the first cup to condition the basket and group head plus heat the cup. Even the second cup is a better temperature the first which just doesn't quite make it. To be fair a professional will espress a couple of shots and dump them at start up. I have made coffee with a friends dual boiler and the same coffee beans produce a slightly richer, smoother coffee but the Barista plus or Pro still makes a "great" coffee for less than half the price of a duel boiler and grinder. Often a coffee from a professional barista at a cafe can be disappointing in spite of the superb equipment they have.
I’ve watched your videos and thought “hmmm… they must have fixed that annoying steam/hot water knob on newer models”. Nope! It’s an upgrade! Thank you for this!
Great review. I own a Breville Barista Pro (have it for a month now). The heating issue is annoying, but the machine is perfect in many ways, so I am glad with my choice. Thank you for your great videos!
finally...someone with an honest and UNBIASED review. I'll def stick with the double boiler. I was having a hard time figuring out which one to buy....the pro or the dual boiler. Thanks for the tip and Salamalekom.
I purchased my Barista Pro in the beginning of this year and watched a few of your videos to help me make a decision. I wanted a clean looking, all in one machine, that doesn't take up too much counter space.
My experience so far has been mostly similar. I drink espresso most of the times, so I usually run two blank shots to heat up the grouphead, portafilter and cup.
The only complaints I've had so far are the slow steam wand, that you mentioned. And I've found the chromed parts on the drip tray and the splash plate are easily scratched by cups or the occasional bump of the portafilter.
This was a great review. I want to buy a barista pro and watched many reviews for it but yours has really pointed the finger to the problems that may come up. Thank you!
Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate your comment and feedback on what was helpful 😊
Pro tip
you should fill the hopper all the way for consistent grind. It will also help with the beans being left on the side. It will grind what it's supposed to. You are never going to have every been grid and you should be cleaning it regularly. Getting all the oils out.
I don't store beans in the hopper because I try different beans often and brew decaf in the afternoon. Also, I think it'll be an allegedly "consistent" grind amount until you get to the end of the bag/hopper and realize ~15g is missing from your originally-300g bag 🙃 Regardless of your hopper/single-dose method, always weigh your ground coffee (after grinding..) to determine your dose amount!
And yes with this grinder you won't have zero retention but there are grinders out there that get you quite close to it 😊
Many aftermarket bellows are available for the Breville Barista Pro. Pushing a few times on it will clear the hopper and grinder internals.
Pro is great but upgrading the grinder to Niche Zero standalone one made big a improvement to my coffees
Excellent review!
I own a Barista Pro for more than a year now. Grinder and its rentention is a bit frustrating. Planning to get a standalone single dosing grinder.
Hope the temperature stability could be better.
I keep the machine switched on for atleast 20 mins before i pull my shot. Hope that helps others too.
Thanks for this review and yes, I have had the exact same path (even the same accessories) and ownership experience/satisfaction. I figure I will live with the Pro for 5 years and then upgrade to a Dual Boiler or similar.
Great review video! I understand that you're single dose user so I would recommend a dedicated single dose grinder that has a built-in bellow. Hope that helps.
Thank you for your video! I wont regret at all our barista pro. 2 years after now... at that time I thought it was too much machine and principal $$, but, at a long shot, it just works...
Thank you this review/ feedback was just what I was looking for. I am just planning to buy and funny enough I was just looking at the exact two models and for the same reasons I was leaning more towards the pro ;) thank you , great video
Very similar though as what’s spinning around in my head right now. Great video ❤
Such a nice review. I love that its so high quality professionally and what techniques you have to think about
THANK YOU 😊 for taking the time and care to do a VERY INFORMATIVE and ENJOYABLE video! It helped ME alot
5:37 No analogy needed, it’s simple,.. Dual Boiler allows you to brew and steam at the same time thus saving you time.
….your DSLR analogy on the other hand is pretty good 😂👍🏼
Thanks, genuinely helpful video for someone like me who's looking to get my first espresso machine as a beginner! Appreciate it!
Thank you for watching! I'm happy to have helped 😊
Here for the dacaf! Idk why it's such a hard sell still when so many roasters excel these days!
Very good review. A few pointers, you always need to swirl your espresso when doing latte art. that is how you do it. As for the Barista Pro, I totaly agree on the fact that the grinder is the weakest part. It took me a year to buy a Rocket Faustino and I don´t regret it. The only reason you buy a Breville is it's simplicity, the fact you have a screen and you can program the volumetrics. Otherwise you should consider buying a Gaggia or a Rancilio. It will just give you more options changing your grinder or machine in the future. And FYI You should get a WDT tool, it helps a lot and specially with the Breville grinder
Hey there! Alsalam alaykom, I remember asking you about your thoughts about the Barista pro months ago and by far this is the best review of the machine out there!
And by the way since then I’ve made the decision to go with the barista pro for your exact same reasons, And i have to say i absolutely love it! It’s by far not a flawless machine, but the fact that you get a decent grinder and all around good espresso machine for this price point is definitely worth it especially for someone just getting into the home barista world. I would recommend trying RDT as it helped me a little with the retention + getting an IMS basket as it helps getting better more consistent shots (note that you will have to grind finer with it). Thank you for the review and I wish you enjoy the rest of your day. ♥️
I wanted to know the same thing. I’m torn between the two. What made you get the Touch?
This is the info/vid I was looking for. Thank you :)
I'm going to look at the dual boiler instead, of the Barista Pro and will check your other vidz.
Great vid production by the way.
I have had a Bambino Plus for about six months now and I have an Encore ESP (as well as a Kingrinder K6) and I must say that all of your cons list (grinder aside) applies to the BBP as well. Except, you don't get any of the pros. The auto steaming feature on the Bambino is "meh". And even with a separate grinder, the ESP, I have to bang on the lid. Though, only if single dosing. I notice that if I have the hopper filled with my daily beans + about 10 percent I get closer to what I put in out of it, if that makes sense. I think that the same might be true of the built in as well, based on some other videos. The difference being, a much more streamline workflow with a built in, or so it would seem.
That said, as I mentioned in the ESP video, if I had to do it again, I would have gone for the Pro and got a hand grinder for decaf and specialty beans. Particularly in my case where I am making coffee for 3-4 different people regularly and I am the only one who drinks medium to medium light roasted specialty coffee. I think this would be the case even more so if the others in my household were the ones using the machine. My wife won't make coffee with the Bambino Plus because the workflow is annoying for her. Single dosing and all of that.
Anyway, having not used the Pro I still think it fair to say that it is a better overall package for most people than the Bambino and a separate grinder. Particularly if you just want a good coffee and are not a hobbyist.
Thank you for these videos!
Thanks so much for this insight!! I haven't worked with the Bambino line myself and was mostly going off what users told me directly of their experiences. But all their standalone grinders varied, of course.
I appreciate you sharing your experience for others to see! Hope it helps others who are checking the comments! 😊
There are many tools available to easily deal with the coffee grinder retention, such as single dose hopper bellows.
Thank you for another great review! Your videos are always so helpful and full of information. I love your channel!❤️
Thank you so much for watching! I appreciate the support and am happy to hear that my content is helpful 😊🙏🏼
I love how you present your video. I can relate to it easily because of the details in your explanation.
thank you so much for watching and for the feedback! 😊
Fantastic video. I appreciate the info and you have definitely helped me in my research to find the machine for me. You ROCK!
I'm happy to hear that!! Thanks for watching!
A single-dose grinder conversion will take care of that retention issue. I have one and I love mine. I also soften my filtered water in a separate pitcher with Osmotic Scale Reduction (O.Sca.R) Cloth Pack/Limescale Inhibitor. A puck screen to keep the grounds away from the shower screen. Trying to do what I can to protect my investment. Good luck.
Earlier this year I bought a Breville dual-boiler and smart grinder. Yes, the two of them take up quite a bit more counter space than your Barista Pro, and I have less counter space than you! On the other hand it is a dual-boiler, which is a feature I wanted. The Smart Grinder is definitely under-powered for making espressos several times a day, so I replaced it with a more powerful one. Other than that, I'm happy with my purchase.
Curious to know which grinder you upgraded to!
Clear, high quality, and informative video! Thank you!
Great review! Appreciated all the technicalities and your reasoning. Thanks!
Thank you so much for watching and for the feedback! Happy to hear it was helpful 😊
Hi how r u? Really awesome that I found your channel. After a long and similar research to yours, I was going back and forth between bambino plus, barista pro and the dual boiler and I thought for the budget I want to spend, I got the pro and am glad I made the right choice based on this video. I am totally new and starting out so I think this was a great choice to start with. I saw here that a lot of coffee gets stuck so was wondering what portable handheld vacuum that you use. I’m trying to see if there’s something like that in indonesia. All the best and keep on posting videos
Thanks for this. I think this is the right machine for me because it seems like a good entry that i wont outgrow anytime soon.
i'm so glad you found my review helpful!! hope you enjoy whichever machine you end up choosing 😊
A really solid, objective insightful review. Thank you.
Thank you for watching and for the positive feedback!! 🙏🏼
Excellent review with good info and to the point. Thank you for sharing.
I bought the dual boiler for my first 😂. I already had a DF64 gen2 grinder and was decent at dialing grind sizes for pour overs, moka pots, and joe presso's. I was leaning towards the Pro but the thermo coils were a hard no.
NICE!!! the dual boiler is awesome to use!! i've used it a lot over the years, because one of my best friends has it 😊
I went with the barista express impress instead of the pro because the pressure gauge just looks too cool
Thanks for this. You’ve pretty much answered previous questions asked!
Amazing video and super helpful, thank you for making it. I am in the market for my first machine and really worried about making the wrong choice. Torn between going proper prosumer and getting a more advanced espresso machine and separate grinder, or just try out a cheaper all in one set up like this machine, as after a while you get into the groove of running blank shots to heat up sufficiently or tweaking the grinder. My worry is though as i get more into it (if i do), i don't want to find myself in the position of having to buy a separate grinder for an already all in one machine and getting annoyed at the output temperature. I appreciate this is a massive first world problem!!
My question for you though, if budget wasn't an issue and you went with the dual boiler machine and separate grinder, do you think its worth staying with sage/breville or maybe looking at more prosumer machine brands? I looked at the rocket appartamento but that is 30 min warm up time apparently, which completely wrote that machine off for me!
what machine did you end up getting?
Sage/breville barista pro! Really good!! Great shots, great latte art!!
great video! love your editing style.
The Gaggia Classic Evo Pro is on sale for $400, it has a boiler and a 58mm portafilter, then you would have to get a grinder.
Excellent video! Ive been watching your channel for some time now.
You've kinda inspired me to buy this BUT I'm worried about it's longevity. I've had a chance to buy one that's 5 month old but I'm hesitant. I don't know if I'd be better off buying another Gaggia Classic to replace the old second hand one I have, which has recently broken (it's around 20 years old, and could probably still be fixed).
Hi Leena! Nicely done, cinematic video and review. I particularly liked the part where you showed your decision making process.
If you do get a standalone grinder in the future, I would REALLY recommend a Specialita/Manuale over the Sette. The Sette is deafeningly loud. I got rid of mine after 3 months.
Btw, which camera and lens do you use? -Tom
thank you so much for watching and for the tip! i use a canon eos R with a 35mm
What a great review , so informative , I’m still on the fence , do I go barista express impress or pro 🙂↔️
Very helpful video :). I sincerely love your videos. Is there any particular reason you seem to only really be considering the Sage/Breville lines? Have you considered other brands/manufacturers?
I bought the barista pro a few months ago. I had to get the first one replaced because of a panel gap defect. But then the second one sadly broke after only a few months.
I managed to get a full refund from the retailer after my second Barista Pro broke. In the end, I have now went for the Rancilio Silvia Pro X.
I bought the Barista Pro for $499. Not sure if that’s good price or not? It’s my first espresso machine purchase. Thank you for the video as well
@@martinv-v5d That sounds like an awesome deal! Hope you love it 🙂
Exceptional overview! Thank you!
Great and thorough review, thank you!
Have you seen the single dose bellow attachment? It reduces the retention on the beans aswell. Seems like the perfect product for you😭
This review is great! But it does keep annoying me about the “thermo coil” that heating system is the one that uses the breville barista express which can take 30 seconds to reach optimal heating at least even turning the steam wand can take 40 seconds. In the other hand the barista pro uses a heating system called a thermo-jet it’s faster taking 3 seconds to heat using the steam wand takes 10 seconds to purge but saying that the barista pro uses a “thermo coil” is not right.
Ah yes I understand, but I think I mentioned thermocoil because it literally is a coil that is flattened. It's still shaped like a coil, but that coil doesn't climb up a block as it does in the Barista Express.
Also even though it is capable of producing shots more quickly after being turned on, you've got to run a couple dummy shot cycles to properly heat up the grouphead and portafilter. I've heard that in the Barista Express, even the portafilter can get warm while the machine heats up. In any case, I apologize because I didn't mean to imply the two heating mechanisms are the same. But if you look at a picture of the thermal coil for the Barista Pro, you'll see it is still a coil but flattened into a disc-like shape
did you upgrade your portafilter and baskets to like an IMS? How about the water shower screen? THANK YOU - loved the video , subscribed
No, this is the bottomless portafilters I have and I use the baskets that came with them: bit.ly/3wt2fVs
Shower screen is stock, though! Thank you for watching 😊
😅😂only photographers got the reference of the cheap nifty 50 lens, awesome review gave me a lot to think about 😊
hahahaa trying to expand my viewership through my background in photography 😅
You might need to preheat your portafilter before you make your first shot in order to get it to temp. That's why your subsequent shots are within the specified temps.
nice review..i'm also considering breville dual boiler in the future as for now i already got my china made gemilai coffee machine😁
The bambino has a thermojet heating system not a thermacoil
I have this BB pro and love it! I wonder if the pro has correct 9 bar pressure?
Thanks for the review! I'm interested in the Pro, and I see it has a ThermoJet heating system now. I wonder if that's a recent change from the ThermaCoil system after you bought your machine? It's supposed to heat up in seconds.
Hello, your videos have such a high quality. It's a shame you have such little exposure so far. Have you tried youtube shorts or tiktok for more exposure?
Really nice review ❤
This review is wonderful! Great critiques of the entire workflow! Thank you so much for this work!
This video is amazingly done! so clear. thanks!
thank you so much!
Can I please ask where you got your replacement wooden group handle from? 😊
Yes, it's from Crema! bit.ly/3wt2fVs
Thank you the review. Would love to know your setting and your choice of beans..
l love your honest review!! thank you!
Been loving your videos…. May I ask where you got your brass looking coffee bean scoop/ bag clip? It’s not listed in your “ coffee stuff” web page. Thank you so much
Thanks so much! Sure thing, here you are:
templecoffee.com/products/coffee-scoop-clip
Great review! I love hearing from people who’ve actually owned and operated a product for an extended time.
I have a question, does the black truffle color get scratches and reveal the color underneath? From your video it looks almost brand new still. We just purchased this same barista pro in the black truffle and I love it, but I’ve heard it can get scratched and I’m worried about the long term look.
Thanks so much for watching!! I have not had any scratches at all. I dropped my drip tray once and it got a tiny dent in the front corner plastic but no paint came off 🤣
Hi, I just bought a Breville Barista Touch. Thanks to your videos I wanted my own espresso machine😍, I adjusted the grinder like you did. Finally after 5 failed espressos hahaha it extracted the coffee at sec 8 and with crema, I used my decaf beans from Veracruz, México but need to try non decaf. Nevertheless it came out great, I usually drink capuccino, and still fail with my coffee art 🥲. Have you compared the barista touch vs barista pro ? I want to know your opinion about the touch. Thanks again for doing these videos. 💞
love your reply
I've had the Barista pro about two years now and got to say it makes a great cup of coffee. However now it lies dormant, because after back flushing it stops operating after 5secs, possibly due to a air lock. It happened before after back flushing and a local man repaired it.Breville wants their machines mended by them, so spares are hard to come by and most repairers won't touch them. So due to my experience I would never buy this brand again.
So do you still recommend invest in one I was about to buy one, but I’m really worried about if something happened where to take to get fixed
Yes its a great machine , but its hard to get someone to repair it except Sage. Mine was out of action for 3months before getting through to their help line. It was only operating for 5secs before cutting out. This is a common problem after back flushing. The simple solution is to restore factory settings. It may take a few go s to fix.
Wow. My barista pro after a day or two of grinding coffee has at most a .1 gram retention. And usually I’d spot on. I don’t know if I got a good machine or I’m just lucky. But I have never had a problem with retention.
Who really brews and steams at the same time. Really.
Anyone with a dual boiler lol
Loved the ‘nifty fifty’ analogy 😂
😂 I'm so glad someone got it
Could you talk about water management? I haven’t seen it addressed by people using these machines with large water reservoirs. Do you empty and fill fresh daily? If you are making espresso on a daily basis do you use
the water left in the reservoir for a couple of days, and then wash the tank with soap and water after 2-3 days or more??
Got one 2 months ago sent 2 back trying my third first didn’t work second only got to 50c not happy
Excelente review!! Thanks it help a lot.
I’m making the exact decision. But I am deciding between the barista pro and the Diletta Bello Espresso Machine. I heard excellent review about this machine but it’s a little bit more pricey and I have to also buy a nice griner so it’s going to be double of the investment. What will be your suggestion being this my first express machine ?
Thanks again 🫶
Cant decide what to get
5:28 it’s a ThermoJet not a Thermocoil
Thank you for your in depth review and all your videos about this machine! I just recently purchased this exact machine in the same color and am super excited to make better coffee!
I was just wondering if its normal to get water drops on top the plastic part labeled steam & water purger system? I found alot of water accumulation there as I pulled out my drip tray. And is it normal to accumulate water in the drip tray because I never purge my steam directly in there, so I dont know why theres so much water. Thank you!!
Great info. I appreciate it.
A really well produced and honest assessment. How do you rate this Breville Pro against the mid-line Jura?
Thank you!! I'm unfamiliar with the mid-line Jura, sorry!
Hello, love this video. What were your thoughts on the Breville Oracle when you were deciding on which machine to get (not factoring its expensive price tag)?
Also….I LOVE Coava beans :) I live near a Coava shop in Portland :)
Top notch video, thanks!
What camera are you using for your videos? Nice, crisp video of this machine!
Canon EOS R 😊
I have no clue what to do. I grind finer and finer and the coffee flows like crazy (14-15) seconds. I tamp as hard as I can😢. Any help appreciated.
Do you measure the dose of ground coffee before you tamp? And have you adjusted your built in grinder's burr setting?
@@HijabsandAprons Yes, the dose is correct. And I adjusted my grinder manually after I wrote this question (to 3) and it looks much better already. I will continue today and see if I can repeat my already good result from yesterday! Thanks.
Great review!! Have you considered getting a better grinder after 1.5 years of ownership?
Thank you for watching! Yes I have, and I'm stuck wondering whether or not I'll be getting a dual boiler anytime soon (even within a year). If I think I will, then I will wait to get the standalone grinder at the same time. If not, then I might get one sooner. Leaning toward a Baratza Sette (any of them, really) or a Niche. But I haven't done too much research yet. What about you??
@@HijabsandAprons Yeah I'm leaning towards a Baratza Sette 270 or Eureka Mignon Silenzio grinder. I have the same model just in stainless steel and was in the same boat of deciding between the Pro or Bambino Plus too!
Thank you for the thorough yet accessible video.
How is the paint holding up? Any chipping at the seams?
No issues yet! 😊
@HijabsandAprons thank you very much for your response. I think I'm going to get the Bambino Plus and then throw my budget for my birthday, Christmas etc for myself into a Niche Zero.
That sounds like an awesome pair! I hope you love them 😊
@HijabsandAprons it seems like the absolute ultimate pairing in ease-of-use, least mess and most versatile ( for those last-minute hands-off kind of days or really dialing something in with a bottomless portafilter) for the $$ and quality output.