Such a slippery slope. For reasons other than sport performance, I lost an incredible amount of weight but maintained a high training volume. The result was developing an eating disorder that I struggled with for 10+ years. As a male triathlete, it's difficult for people to understand that. I've been in recovery for about 5 and I'm now in my late 50's. It's still a daily struggle. In 2010, I was in Kona. PRaticing the swim, a German photographer asked me if if he could tak my picture. I guess it was because I looked the part. What he didn'tknow is how sick I really was. Be careful out there friends.
Bravo to you that came across to the healthy mindset and realised the truth but also accepted it. The hardest part is to accept the ED. Good luck to your rest of recovery!!
I've done really well in some of the local races but I'm sort of soft and squat looking. I try to remind myself that what my body can do matters more than what it looks like. 🤘
When I think of endurance elites, I think ectomorph type, but there are plenty of other types or a mix of the types for triathlon, because you also need the strength as well as endurance. I have to say this video did trigger a bit of a 'omg I need to lose weight!' for a few seconds and then I remembered...I can't change my age, my current health and medical conditions etc. All I can do is keep enjoying a sport I love doing and not worry about my body type.
The importance of fuelling your body and enjoying your sport can not be overemphasised. This is more of an observation of the pros and was not meant to trigger anyone. I hope we got that across.
I remember watching an NBA draft years ago with my father when they took a player in the first round that I (and many others) thought was a terrible player in college in the only year he ever played organized sports. I remember asking my dad why on earth anybody would draft him, because he just could not play the game. My father said, "They can TEACH him how to play basketball, but they can't teach a guy to be 7 foot 2."
I grew up in small town USA in a family of big, tall (American) football players. I wasn’t gifted with the size of my brothers but I worked hard and got a football scholarship to a D1 school as a WR. On paper I never really had the stats to suggest I could make it at that position, 5’11 195 lbs and not particularly explosive or dynamic compared to my teammates. I learned to excel at the fundamentals and just focus on every aspect I could control and to maximize what I was good at: blocking and short yardage situations. When I got fitted for a bike I was made aware of how short my legs are, 29 inch inseam, but arms are super long with a 78 inch reach. Short legs help with blocking, longer arms helped with tough passes over the middle. Makes me wonder if I could have been better at a different sport, like swimming, which comes very easy to me, or boxing or maybe even tennis? There’s definitely times when I wish I had long legs like Jan out on the run but I also kinda like the challenge. Working on getting a BQ and am finally at a point where I can kinda see it happening one day. Just work with what you have and embrace the process ✌️
I think its the range of events that is the equalizer. Tall athletic women like Gwen Jorgensen and Cassandra Beaugrand seem natural runners and swimmers but struggle on the bike, whereas Flora Duffy is small and stocky but tends to gain an advantage over them on the bike.
if cycling and triathlon performances have taught us anything, then being tall on the bike is an advantage in flat courses and a disadvantage in hilly courses.
I'm definitely the skinny runner build. Not being able to float is definitely a swimming disadvantage haha. I need my 3 5 4 wetsuit, float those legs up, because that's where all my weight is, not up top.
I did a random sampling of successful Ironman athletes a while back and determined that they aren’t as lean as you might think. Average Pro Triathlete BMI was about 21.4 which is perfectly healthy and achievable for most people.
BMI =/= leanness. Men can be shredded at basically any BMI up to about 27 (beyond that, you start needing a fat-free mass index above 25 which for almost everyone is impossible without steroids). Pros are generally lean, yes even Blummenfelt. But the benefit of going from say 12% fat to 10% is fairly small and basically only appears on the run, and the risks increase the leaner you get. If you're not being paid to be fast it's probably not worth it to get leaner than what you can maintain year round (bear in mind for some this may be 12% and for other 8% - it's fairly individual).
Thank you, you have given me a goal weight for the Ironman, 1kg for every inch of height, means I have 6kgs to go and 11 months to do it. Perfect I can do that.
1kg for every inch in height is interesting, I've been a bit below that all my life and always found it easy to get fast running but struggled on the longer rides.
I would love to know more about this study. Even when I was injured and out of sport for several years (not being that active), I never weighed as much as 1kg for every 1in of height. Now I'm wondering if I'd find more success focusing on gaining a few kilograms of muscle weight...and how I'd manage to do that.
Two of my favorite women triathletes were very different physically. Mirinda Carfrae 5'3" and Chrissie Wellington 5'7" tall. Rinnie short and compact and Chrissie tall and always looked lanky. Rinnie the better swimmer though being shorter and Chrissie the better cyclist but both great runners! So size may not be too big a factor but for women they may be on the 2 ends of the height spectrum, but Chrissie did beat Rinnie in 2009 and 2011.
Unrelated, but I'd be all for Heather interviewing Fenella when she gets back from IM South Africa where she got 2nd after losing almost all of her nutrition. Those two women are on a different level!
My standard weight is roughly 12 stone 10 pounds (178 lbs), at 5 feet 10" with a broad upper body shape age 52. However when I train for say a Half ironman distance Tri, I tend to perform best at what I refer to as my Race weight. My best performances tend to occur when I weigh 11 stone 10 pounds (164lbs) - 11 stone 12 pounds (162 lbs) give or take. There is an old saying, you are the heaviest bit of kit you carry, so I try to improve my power to weight ratio where I can. There may well be an advantage to a particular body shape, with height reach cadence etc, however I think a lot of it comes down to how fit you are .
I'm not over weight I'm just not tall enough for my weight. Seriously, I do lose weight for the race season and try and keep strength training to the point of fitness but not bulk up.
I used to think the best time trialist on a bike needed to be tall like Miguel indurain,but with new aero positions small guys can time trial really well now like Remco Evenpoel or Pidcock and others. So i think ironman will eventually become a sport for small guys 5ft7 and slight build look at Gebre Selasi and Mo Farah or Keninese Bekele all 5ft 7 or shorter and weigh less than 60kg. Because its just impossible for the big guys to run the marathon times of the small guys.The marathon will change in ironman too it will become about the run.The small guys can fit through a key hole on the bike in terms of frontal area.Then its waay easier for them to drop a fast marathon.Jan ran a 66 min 21 k during ironman i think that is also his half marathon PB. Wait until pure runners learn to swim and cycle. Another factor is heat. Womans racing the ladies already have very small girls winning.
Go to any race and you will see all body shapes and sizes. Triathlon must always remain an inclusive sport. Everyone should feel welcome no matter their body size. Finish a race and proudly wear the badge of “Triathlete”.
Is there a pro that you think has the perfect body for triathlon? 🤔🧍
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Informative video!!
Kristian Blummenfelt is everyone's hope for more heavyweight athletes in triathlon ;)
Such a slippery slope. For reasons other than sport performance, I lost an incredible amount of weight but maintained a high training volume. The result was developing an eating disorder that I struggled with for 10+ years. As a male triathlete, it's difficult for people to understand that. I've been in recovery for about 5 and I'm now in my late 50's. It's still a daily struggle. In 2010, I was in Kona. PRaticing the swim, a German photographer asked me if if he could tak my picture. I guess it was because I looked the part. What he didn'tknow is how sick I really was. Be careful out there friends.
Bravo to you that came across to the healthy mindset and realised the truth but also accepted it. The hardest part is to accept the ED. Good luck to your rest of recovery!!
Definitely a great lesson to be learned here. I actually view eating as part of my training.
I've done really well in some of the local races but I'm sort of soft and squat looking. I try to remind myself that what my body can do matters more than what it looks like. 🤘
When I think of endurance elites, I think ectomorph type, but there are plenty of other types or a mix of the types for triathlon, because you also need the strength as well as endurance.
I have to say this video did trigger a bit of a 'omg I need to lose weight!' for a few seconds and then I remembered...I can't change my age, my current health and medical conditions etc. All I can do is keep enjoying a sport I love doing and not worry about my body type.
The importance of fuelling your body and enjoying your sport can not be overemphasised. This is more of an observation of the pros and was not meant to trigger anyone. I hope we got that across.
I've watched again, but was thinking of the elites this time, and can understand now what you were trying to get across.
I remember watching an NBA draft years ago with my father when they took a player in the first round that I (and many others) thought was a terrible player in college in the only year he ever played organized sports. I remember asking my dad why on earth anybody would draft him, because he just could not play the game. My father said, "They can TEACH him how to play basketball, but they can't teach a guy to be 7 foot 2."
Your presenting/speaking skills are getting noticeably better
I grew up in small town USA in a family of big, tall (American) football players. I wasn’t gifted with the size of my brothers but I worked hard and got a football scholarship to a D1 school as a WR. On paper I never really had the stats to suggest I could make it at that position, 5’11 195 lbs and not particularly explosive or dynamic compared to my teammates.
I learned to excel at the fundamentals and just focus on every aspect I could control and to maximize what I was good at: blocking and short yardage situations.
When I got fitted for a bike I was made aware of how short my legs are, 29 inch inseam, but arms are super long with a 78 inch reach. Short legs help with blocking, longer arms helped with tough passes over the middle.
Makes me wonder if I could have been better at a different sport, like swimming, which comes very easy to me, or boxing or maybe even tennis?
There’s definitely times when I wish I had long legs like Jan out on the run but I also kinda like the challenge. Working on getting a BQ and am finally at a point where I can kinda see it happening one day. Just work with what you have and embrace the process ✌️
Your presenting/speaking skills are getting noticeably better!
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I think its the range of events that is the equalizer. Tall athletic women like Gwen Jorgensen and Cassandra Beaugrand seem natural runners and swimmers but struggle on the bike, whereas Flora Duffy is small and stocky but tends to gain an advantage over them on the bike.
if cycling and triathlon performances have taught us anything, then being tall on the bike is an advantage in flat courses and a disadvantage in hilly courses.
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Would love to see more research done on women. Perhaps across many different triathlon races to increase your chances of drawing a conclusion.
I'm definitely the skinny runner build. Not being able to float is definitely a swimming disadvantage haha. I need my 3 5 4 wetsuit, float those legs up, because that's where all my weight is, not up top.
We like the topic you are talking about and understand the explanation
I did a random sampling of successful Ironman athletes a while back and determined that they aren’t as lean as you might think.
Average Pro Triathlete BMI was about 21.4 which is perfectly healthy and achievable for most people.
BMI =/= leanness. Men can be shredded at basically any BMI up to about 27 (beyond that, you start needing a fat-free mass index above 25 which for almost everyone is impossible without steroids). Pros are generally lean, yes even Blummenfelt. But the benefit of going from say 12% fat to 10% is fairly small and basically only appears on the run, and the risks increase the leaner you get. If you're not being paid to be fast it's probably not worth it to get leaner than what you can maintain year round (bear in mind for some this may be 12% and for other 8% - it's fairly individual).
Thank you, you have given me a goal weight for the Ironman, 1kg for every inch of height, means I have 6kgs to go and 11 months to do it. Perfect I can do that.
Go for it as long as you’re properly fueling yourself for recovery and hard training. Like the video said, that’s a very slippery line!
1kg for every inch in height is interesting, I've been a bit below that all my life and always found it easy to get fast running but struggled on the longer rides.
maybe u need improve carbo loading, and you are eating too small while riding?
I would love to know more about this study. Even when I was injured and out of sport for several years (not being that active), I never weighed as much as 1kg for every 1in of height. Now I'm wondering if I'd find more success focusing on gaining a few kilograms of muscle weight...and how I'd manage to do that.
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As a racer in the Clydesdale category even pretty lean, I'll take a good bike and an ok run any day of the week.
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Two of my favorite women triathletes were very different physically. Mirinda Carfrae 5'3" and Chrissie Wellington 5'7" tall. Rinnie short and compact and Chrissie tall and always looked lanky. Rinnie the better swimmer though being shorter and Chrissie the better cyclist but both great runners! So size may not be too big a factor but for women they may be on the 2 ends of the height spectrum, but Chrissie did beat Rinnie in 2009 and 2011.
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Unrelated, but I'd be all for Heather interviewing Fenella when she gets back from IM South Africa where she got 2nd after losing almost all of her nutrition. Those two women are on a different level!
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My standard weight is roughly 12 stone 10 pounds (178 lbs), at 5 feet 10" with a broad upper body shape age 52. However when I train for say a Half ironman distance Tri, I tend to perform best at what I refer to as my Race weight. My best performances tend to occur when I weigh 11 stone 10 pounds (164lbs) - 11 stone 12 pounds (162 lbs) give or take. There is an old saying, you are the heaviest bit of kit you carry, so I try to improve my power to weight ratio where I can. There may well be an advantage to a particular body shape, with height reach cadence etc, however I think a lot of it comes down to how fit you are .
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I used to think the best time trialist on a bike needed to be tall like Miguel indurain,but with new aero positions small guys can time trial really well now like Remco Evenpoel or Pidcock and others.
So i think ironman will eventually become a sport for small guys 5ft7 and slight build look at Gebre Selasi and Mo Farah or Keninese Bekele all 5ft 7 or shorter and weigh less than 60kg.
Because its just impossible for the big guys to run the marathon times of the small guys.The marathon will change in ironman too it will become about the run.The small guys can fit through a key hole on the bike in terms of frontal area.Then its waay easier for them to drop a fast marathon.Jan ran a 66 min 21 k during ironman i think that is also his half marathon PB.
Wait until pure runners learn to swim and cycle.
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Go to any race and you will see all body shapes and sizes. Triathlon must always remain an inclusive sport. Everyone should feel welcome no matter their body size. Finish a race and proudly wear the badge of “Triathlete”.
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