Is There A Perfect Body Shape For Triathlon?
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2019
- Swimming, cycling and running have very different demands on the body. Triathlon is a completely different challenge all together! So what is the ideal body shape for this multi sport? Heather has been investigating!
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Multi sport athletes have the challenge of not only training and racing in different sports but also getting their body into the best possible shape and condition to perform optimally in all.
Triathlon is a different challenge however, as the sport of swimming, cycling and running have very different demands on the body.
So what is the ideal body shape for this multi sport? Heather has been investigating!
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What do you think, is there a perfect body type for triathlon? Let us know!
I don't know what the perfect body is, but if you look at the body's of frodeno, Lucy, Tim Dom, Sanders i see that they have almost the same body type and they are at the top.
Lean like a Greyhound
Ecto/Meso for sure.
A Katie Ledecky 🏊, Lance Armstrong 🚴and a Meb 🏃
No, do not believe that body type plays a major role. What is more important is your body's ability to train hard, suffer and oxygen uptake.
My body shape is perfect for races involving rolling down a hill
So you're a professional downhill racer? 😂
That's v v funny. I literally lol
That really made me giggle. . .
There's a cheese roll race in Ireland if my memory serves me right. It goes downhill. All the best.
A TRUE PIONEER!
My wife has commented several times when she sees my podium pictures that the other two guys look like real athletes, not like me the skinny guy. But the skinny guy is in the middle - top step!
Tbf a majority of real athletes don't look like the stereotypical Instagram model "athletes".
Definitely very different body type than someone like Ronnie Coleman and Eddie Hall
You reckon? 😂
Eddie Hall and Ronnie both have long hands which helps a lot in the swim... they also have a higher potential power output and a really explosive power too. If they ate less calories and trained for triathlon they would both do really well.
you guys put so much hard work into these videos. it does not go unnoticed. keep it real :')
Thanks 🙂
To compete at the top? Yes probably. To call yourself a triathlete and complete. No. That’s why we all love this sport. Keep up the good work, guys 🤟🏼
🙌
Nick Bare has helped me stay focused/encouraged on endurance events while being built like a football player
Same he’s such good inspiration
He's also on drugs 😳
@@mitchruns9667 ? test?
@@letshealandfeel8826 trt yes
@@mitchruns9667 he still works very hard tho
For the IM distance- 2.23 lbs per inch of height (1.012 kg per 2.54cm). I took the height and weight of all Top 3 finishers at Kona the last 15 years, averaged them out, and arrived at this number.
Lionel Sanders had some issues with being “underweight” last season after a few months of intense training- his target weight after lessons learned was spot on with 2.23 lbs/in.
Oops... should therefore optimally be weighing 65 but am weighing 56 XD (edit: kilos)
No difference in gender?
Spencer Wight There‘ll probably be differences just bc women have a different body composition
I read this and was like "no way I hit that, that's gonna give me an incredible low weight", did the math and turns out is the exact body weight I'm working towards lol
Cool little research you did there
Looks like I need to get to 11% bf...
Hey team GTN let's get a video on how triathletes train their brain
Someone who has had a bad season and bounced back vs someone who is having a great season. I believe endurance sports is more about mind over matter.
Vinay check out a couple of our psychology style videos we've done in the past.
At 5’1” with big shoulders and legs but only 112 lbs. I could really use some length for the swim, my crank on the bike would be longer and my stride would be so much better. Instead I feel like a dachshund among Great Danes on the run. Small but mighty! I’ll keep striving and thankfully I’ve got endurance! Just finished my first 70.3 at the age of 62 and loved it! Had only done 3 sprints before that and your channel was super helpful in my training! Thank you!
Thanks once again do enjoy your show.. Wish I had a perfect body for sport.. In my view it's power to weight and most importantly how tough you are between lugg holes..
I am a big guy 188cm 87kgs and I am about to partecipate my second half distance triathlon in Elba island, with 1400mt of elevation.....i love climbs despite my body mass. Climbing is the salt of cycling
ahah... crazy... 178..92kg.. hate climbing..
I'm similar at 191, 87 and agree with you
I'm a goat at 189 and 63 kg, so I love climbing🙃
Aurel ahahah you beast ☠️☠️☠️
194 cm, last year I raced in the French Alpes at 103 kg. 500+ m of climbing in a 40 km loop. Not funny. 😂
I just love this channel.. Thank you for information..
Interesting discussion for sure. I am tall with long levers and yet the swim is my most difficult activity, probably cause I did not swim when I was kid. I love running yet at 175 lbs my power to weight ratio is probably not ideal. Cycling is my joy, especially long distance. All in all I feel good to go as a 67 year old.
Chrissy Wellington (5'7, 128lbs), Danilea Ryf (5'9, 139lbs), Katie Zaferes (5'8", 128lbs, ITU). All have little fat on the hips and breasts resulting in a tall and lean figure that has landed all on top on multiple occasions. I think for women, tall and lean seem to be the standard. But Rinny is 5'3 and she's always been my fave, also a top competitor. Speaking for myself at 5'7" 145lbs, I definitely see how the fat around my hips and (natural) D cup has really hindered my pace and has increased injury (knees, hips), when I was training at 139lbs my speed in all events was faster and less painful. Just personal experience.
This channel is so underrated you guys give so much good tips, info and amazing stuff on triathlons. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks KautiousKat :)
Cheers 🙌
I love your videos! The videos recorded on Kona’ triathlon are amazing.
Good to know that pros have so many hours of sleeping and differences in weight scale during and off season. It helps us do not be so hard with ourselves as a amateur athletes.
Research shows the best Swimmers = Longer torso, long arms and big feet
Cyclists = Longer femur bones
Runners = Longer shin bones
Put this all together and you get disproportionatly tall 👍😁
Usain Bolt?
Jan frodeno?
@@koudacyen nope jan frodeno
Eliud kipchoge is 5'6
Patrick lange is 5 10, average height
I think more athletes need to watch this because that is definitely a question we've all had. We have to embrace our body types and use their strengths.
I'm not tall, and heavy : 173cm and 96 kgs, broad shoulders, long arms and body type more suited to lifting. I did my first OD triathlon as a way to test myself. I did it and it felt great.By all means i am not fast, but i enjoy triathlon and the feel after finishing it. I've seen bigger guys doing it with ease, so yeah, there's not a perfect body shape in my opinion
thanks, I needed to hear that :-) I'm just starting on that trail (currently training for a half marathon)
and also of that body type lol
@@amiMalimovka amen to that. just keep training and you'll do awesome :)
@@amiMalimovka It's so hard not to get caught up in "having to be light enough" when it comes to running. I'm 160 cm and 62-63 kg which is pretty heavy for a long distance runner, mostly due to being naturally pretty muscular for a woman and building muscle quite easily with the slightest bit of lifting. While I can push down to a race weight of 60 kgs, anything below that is gonna make me perform worse. Don't overly focus on your weight in running, I still get times that I am happy with in half marathon and still making progress.
@@chilladoe I did! three months ago :-) now training for a full marathon (feb. 22)
Great piece GTN,
A short lower body with long torso, big legs for power and toned upper body that doesn't weigh you down seems to be ideal
Big and muscular is a phrase that cannot be used for any triathlete 😂
And any long distance runners, for reasons unknown to me.
Nick bare?
@@peteplayz-norskgaming5723 Not a world class tri athlete. Of course you can be big and finish an ironman but not necessarily to be competitive.
Unless your Dave Scott, Mark Allen, Mike Pigg…big, strong and fast
@@yinyangbikepackingadventur4606 they’re not big 😂. Maybe compared to other triathletes but not compared to big athletes. They would get killed on a rugby pitch 😂
Am 17stone, after losing 7stone. Use to play rugby (prop). Am hoping to do some Tri a Tri's during the summer and hopefully a full sprint at the end of the summer. My size is my biggest worry, been around slim fast athletes.
I'm a short thin guy: 172cm, 65kg. No intention of becoming an elite athlete but my height kinda has always been a concern to me. So I tend to take women elite athletes as inspiration to me. Patrick Lange (not tall, 178cm, really short legs) is actually a great example that you don't need to have the tall triangle body frame to become a top athelete.
Body type is one part of the equation. Also add attitude, luck including where you're born and cash and just health, training genetics (e.g. gene specific heart and gut efficiencies), training IQ, dedication, fitness and HARD WORK 😋
You can offset most things with some of the other but at the extreme, it's hard to push 300 watts like Lionel for 4 hours and with a HR of only 120. 😁
As an AG that still wants to be/look somewhat “normal”, I tend to focus a lot of weight training on upper body in an effort to maintain my shoulders, chest and arms. Too many triathletes (and especially cyclists) have no upper body and I personally do not want “that look”. I recognize my preference for my body does have adverse effects on my aerodynamics, but that’s a choice I’ve made.
@Jason Gasparik. That type of weight training will help your swim and run actually. Cyclists don’t need upper body and arm strength and drop it to drop weight which is crucially important for power to weight ratio.
Great vid, Heath 👌👌
Wade Witbooi thanks 🙏
I want to say I really appreciate this video. I actually get body shamed at races because I have muscles. It seems to be really offensive to older triathletes. They always say, there goes that weightlifter, or I'm told I should be playing linebacker somewhere. I'm thinking I'm only 5'11 and 190lbs, no way I'm big enough to play linebacker in the NFL. It's funny at the gym people are always asking me tips on how I lost weight and how I look the way I do. Then I get to a race and it's like I violated some unwritten code, of "Thou Shall Not have muscles and do triathlons".
What makes me sad is that I'm 6'3 and an already very lean 185lb from powerlifting. Now that I'm running, I have very little weight left to lose without being miserable. I can feel my weight does hold me back a fair bit, especially as distances increase. Should I just consider running shorter distances or what?
I’m the perfect shape for the Clydesdale class.
In my opinion Jan frodeno is the triathlet who comes closest to the "best triathlon body"
With his huge upper-body he has a lot of drag during the cycling though.. but when looking at his accomplishments it might be the case that that isn't as bad as one might think.
Jannik Iron ?
@@umaxi96 Yes?
Jannik Iron he doesn’t have a huge upper body....
@@janiron1899 He also pushes much more watts with his big legs - there are no easy answers ;)
My body type is really lean and I realized I needed to lift weights.
I was 125 lbs at around 5’7 and I always noticed a lack of strength in cycling and swimming.
I’ve since been lifting weights and eating more and I’ve managed to have quicker times in every discipline along with feeling like the activities are easier. I currently weigh 131 lbs.
Whoah there beefcake! 💪😄
How many kg is that?
@@hidayat1999 lmgtfy.com/?q=125lbs+to+kg
67 inches x 2.23 = 149. That's the weight (lean race weight) where you should expect to find your optimal power to weight ratio.
Hey guys.... I am seriously thinking of attemtping an ironman next year. My main issue is that im quite short (175cm) and heavy (average 82kgs, can easily go up to 86-87kgs).
Despite this I'm very athletic (less than 10% body fat and quite muscular/strong since I've practiced calisthenics and weight training for more than 5 years).
I can run half marathons easily (5:10 minutes per km on a comfortable zone) and I used to swim when I was a kid.
Would it be possible for me to maintain my muscular body type while I train for the race or would it represent a major disadvantage? If I'm preparing for a full year, is 10 hours of proper training enough on average?
Any advice from similar athletes or experts would be very kindly appreciated. Thanks for the help in advance!
The importance of a swimmer's physique is inversely related to the distance of the triathlon
Such a understated point a good swimmer in a shorter race can gap enough to hold off...
I think the best one would be a not too tall so like 1,80m tops, fairly slender build but a strong back and shoulders. The little bit of extra drag you get with a bit broader shoulders from the wind will even out or is overtaken with a good swim time and also being able to keep good form while cycling and running. That would be the general best body for triatlon in the broad sense of the sport. For each specific event there always be a specialist that is made for that race.
Can someone explain the logic of needing more "power"for longer race event? The video mentions that a few times but i dont get it at all. Power for me refers to explosive power, i.e. short duration, high intensity movements. Why would you need that for a longer race?
This was a really interesting and nuanced video. After some deliberation, I have settled on the following “dream athlete”:
- For love of new tech and all things nerdy bike related: Mark
- Accent and creative ways to include anything Scottish in videos: Fraser
- Appreciation of a caption contest suggestion and willingness to think outside the box: Heather
:)
I believe that you can look at Alistair brownlee for the sprint and Olympic distance body type.
You can look at SEB, frodeno or Lange for the half to full ironman distance.
What is goingvto be interesting is this year world championship.
You will hopefully have all the top guys in there with hopefully Sanders making a comeback.
Sanders is the most muscular and average height around 6foot. Shorter legs longer torso.
Lange is slimmer and shorter again long torso.
Frodeno is tall and slim.
Alistair again tall and slim longer legs than most.
Let's see what happens!
Jan Frodeno has the pefect physique proven by results.He has broad swimmers shoulders narrow waist, long thin cyxlist legs, his long legs also help the run where he can overcome his large frame with superior stride length.
Just for having fun and doing triathlon, I think there's not really a "perfect" body type. Although for competing, I think you did hit the nail on the head though when you said sprinters tend to be light and leaner body types, and Ironman and 70.3 tend to be bigger body types.
I am a TINY human, just 5'3" (160cm) and 120lbs (54 kilo) and absolutely love Sprint distance tri's. I'd like to do an Ironman someday just to knock it off the list though!
I have wide shoulders, no hip, and to darn large feet for my ethnicity and height....seems perfect built to crawl than to swim. 😂
Being a small and light triathlete I've found that I'm able to pass a lot of people on climbs which is fab but then I'm often caught up again on the downhill so I'd say it's good for K/QOMs and longer climbs but overall it evens out - although could have more to do with not having a TT bike and the confidence to really smash the downhill who knows
I am in the same boat, here is what I have found relative to other athletes around my level: swimming, no issues, have been able to be in the front pack when I am pool-fit. Bike: only seem to struggle on flat windy courses where I lose some time to bigger/stronger cyclists. Running, no issues or disadvantages.
@@trinerd Totally know what you mean about windy courses! My husband always says I don't give much draft benefit on training rides haha. At least you're a good swimmer - I'm terrible!
Very much surprised no statistics shown. 🙄🤔
Triathlon is mainly endurance, not strength. Yes there is a perfect body shape, type. Lean (not muscular at all, extra weight) with average height, longer levers and the power to weight ratio. 05:00 Lesley Paterson is spot on. Moreover, swimming is important but the least determining part, it's cycling and especially running which will determine who wins.
I’m 187 cm and 78 kilos now my best race is half distance and Olympic
Flipping the question, which sport is more important in becoming a good triathlete, will a good cyclist always beat a good swimmer because the time in the discipline is so much more?
I find that more than body shape, the greatest challenge is body stiffness.
swimmers are completely wobbly and relaxed, as opposed to runners (and cyclists) who are stiff and tense (no matter how flexible they are).
runners and cycllists can't relax their muscles and that's why thay can't swim (ankle stiffness, tense legs, tight shoulders). swimmers aren't tense, so each time the foot hits the ground there is no muscular elasticity to bonce it back (so swimmers look like they're falling appart at every stride, hence needing to spend a lot of energy to restart running... at every single stride...).
so, an elite triathlete's body shape is whatever it is, regarding the specific training is done and all these aspects are balanced.
Diogo Almeida the whole point of being a good runner is to be relaxed. They may look unrelaxed but elites look like their gliding
2:49 Is this at Four Points in Ventura?
I'm petite and 5'3" and 7 Stone 12. I have very short arms Trying to get stronger.
honestly, it's gonna be mostly lower body endurance. The bike ride and run make up the majority of the time, and the best swimmers are only going to be a minute or 2 faster than the worst ones, but you can easily see well over 10 minutes in differences in the remaining sections.
5'9 145lbs 6% body fat is my build. I'm best at running, but I'm also good for distance on a bike and I'm a lifeguard so I'm a good swimmer as well.
6% body fat is impressive. How do u get that low?
Heather you are this Tri neophyte fave GTN host.
Chili SheepDog 😊🙏
Who is the athlete from de cover?
i was working in a bike store before. And one of the customer where a coach for a track and field team. He said i looked like a triathlet when i pumped the tire :) i took that as a compliment :P
Ideal is lean and light, toned and muscular, powerful and strong with good mental strength to overcome pain and persist with training even on days where you don't want to face into it. Oh and completely injury and twinge free.For the record, I am not lean or light, I'm more toned than I was but still not what you'd called toned, I'm strong-ish and seem to be able to persist with training and ignore pain better than some so I am not the ideal triathlete but I'm trying.
Sam Appleton, has never seen Vincent Luis and pre ironman Javier Gomez xD
You'd think someone like Jan Frodeno is too tall to perform well in triathlon, yet he kicks ass. If I had to name one guy with perfect proportions though that would be Javier Gomez, he's not overly lean yet he's able to perform at every kind of distance you might throw at him. He's got perfect running form, swims like a dolphin, if he got stronger on the bike he could win Hawaii without a doubt.
Jan is a freak, 195cm and 75kg 😱
Nice work Heather! But what about Pentathletes?
Ha well that's a whole other topic!
need to slim all over with muscular development for areas use in the events and long hours of mileage training and enough fuel for whole events
45yr old masters triathlete. Former bodybuilder, maintaining size at 5'10"/185. Roughly 11% b.f. avg.
First yr into triathlon took a big dip on muscularity &density. Acclimated and can hit podiums at this weight while being muscular enough to be self satisfied. When it comes down to nitty gritty or hilly races, I can't beat the 165 pounders. And swimming with extra lean muscle is like being a stone🤕
163cm and currently 51kg, 18% body fat girl with leg to height ratio at the golden ratio 🤣 what’s my chance at Kona if ever? But I’m just a hobbyist who started in her early 20s...🤦🏻♀️
This explains why I ran slower after taking up road cycling
If I could go down a cup size or two, that would be great
I freaking love Kristian Blummenfelt’s thicc bod! (Reminds me of my own!)
Do swimmers' flexible ankles impact, negatively or positively, the running or cycling performance in any way?
They're not great for running as too much mobility can lead to injuries.
I'm about 6ft, 24 years old, skinny and lean, small shoulders, and have only recently started doing sports related things in the last few years, before that I did nothing. The only swimming I've done was in school but I cycle a lot now and ran for about a year before that. Do I have any chance in triathlon?
Yes, you do. Completing it shouldn't be too difficult with proper training. You can find a lot of training advice online, but join a couple of triathlon forums as well to pick some brains. Once you do a few of the shorter distance triathlons then you'll know if you want to invest in a proper triathlon bike and a good bike fitting, getting a coach to maximize your training time ... things like that.
I'm 51 and started training only in running and cycling a couple of years ago, but now have to bite the bullet and get some laps in the pool under my belt. The bike is my strongest point, followed by running, and I'll be dead last coming out of the water if I don't drown ;)
To be honest, probably not at an elite/pro level, how ever you could probably be a very good age grouper with good training
Everybody gets what he puts in. Go for it
If I may add, swimming has four disciplines: Back, Breast, Butterfly, Free. Out of the four Backstroke and Freestyle favor the tall whereas breaststroke and butterfly favor the strong. Those who are short do rather well in those strokes, making them the fairest discipline of all. You will see shorter stature Japanese world champions mostly in those strokes and the Dutch in the freestyle category. Ironically quick people are pound-for-pound stronger than exceptionally tall individuals. (Take a look at power weight lifters for examples).
Yes, Thorpe, (most excellent freestyler of all time); Phelps, and Laura Manadou born with big feet and big hands acted like flippers and paddles for them.
While I am quite heavy, I am also quite short so I can literally "weight" that up.
Like the Messy Hippy said below: to be competitive, yes. To be in good shape and be a triathlete, no. I think there's also a place for wherever your "happy" shape is. I'd never want to whittle my weight down to the point that I had no butt or have boney arms because I don't like how I'd look. But leaner, stronger, and more efficient - yes.
Currently 99kg and doing my first ironman in two weeks in Kalmar Sweden. Plannkng on cutting 15-20kilos to next years race. Bye bye cake and candy🙀
Sugar too
How did that go?
Iam really tall really wide and heavy build but I would like to do a Ironman even just one because I have a big bone structure
5’7” 160 lbs Low Body Fat Man
I will never have that body type zeroed in but can’t wait to get in shape and compete against myself.
Based on Time About
50% Cycle
40% Run
10% Swim
I think the perfect body type would be 182, slightly long torso, above average but not too wide shoulders, small hips and waist, moderately low body fat, and slightly less muscle than a sprinter.
My body is perfect for watching youtube and maybe for playing video games after some dedicated training.
Like Frodeno!
Brilliant
to sum up: it varies! a bit of all
You can be an average swimmer and cyclist but if you are a great runner, you'll be very competitive in triathlon. The same can't be said for individual excellence in swimming or cycling so that should tell you all you need to know about optimal body types.
Hm..any room for a 4’11? 😂
Training to maximize strength with minimized mass makes sense. "Sinewy" is a good word. "Wiry" is another. "Strong and wiry."
There is an interesting article here:
"THE WIRY BUILD & STRENGTH - UPDATED 2022 - A COMPLETE GUIDE"
Yes, there are body types for all sports.
I'm short really stocky and have small feet, i stay out of the water.
Apparently my body type is perfect for endurance cycling (light, very slim frame, short upper body for my height) but I'm still a pretty terrible climber.
Lionel Sanders' body
5ft 8in 200lbs 30in waist and small feet. Definitely not built for triathlon but I’m still gonna send it!
My kick was always my main strength in swimming.
So do u think love handles will help with buoyancy enough that i should eat more pudding?
I run so much... i just eat whatever i craves. .. yet im still at 65kg/1,7m/44yo..😊
I'm sure there's always a reason to eat more pudding ;)
Ectomorph 75% Mesomorph 25%
Hello! Is there a Chanel for Marathon or ultrarunners?
Tbh I disagree. Short course especially sprint distance is not really an endurance sport for the pros. It’s about higher power over a short period. Long course is where efficiency and therefore lower weight becomes more of a factor. Also the swim importance in short course = more upper body muscle which in turn need more leg muscle to carry it on the run. I think if you look at short course athletes are more sticky and built. Same reason why most 100m sprinters look massive compared to a marathoner. Power is far more important than endurance subsequently they have more muscle in them.
Just don’t worry about your body type and go swim, bike and run
Someone want to help train me for a triathlon?
Perfect body type for a triathlete: At least 6ft. with 10-13% body fat, BUT there are exceptions, i.e. 2016 Olympic Bronze medalist Heny Schumann and multiple Kona champion Patrick Lange. Don't shy away from triathlons because of your body type, it is a great lifestyle!
Vincent Luis 5'10
My body type is somewhere in between potato and blancmange.
So not a 250lb endomorph bodybuilder?
I just ate 2 Hershey bars watching this
My friend used to say to me that there are no underlying genetic and body type advantages. Told me to stop complaining about my short legs and flatfoot and just keep running (as if I was ever stopping).
Then he decided to run a marathon...
My god how the music changed: "those Africans have large noses, proportionally smaller top bodies and longer legs. This is unfair."
LMAO
There is no perfect body type for a certain sport. Of course you think of certain characteristics as „ideal“ for a sport, but then there are often many examples to prove the ideal wrong. When you think of a sprinter in cycling, you think of a big guy with big legs like Marcel Kittel, but then there is someone like Caleb Ewan, who is very short and skinny, yet has outsprinted all the greats. In the end it’s more about Training and technique than Body Type.
Mind over mater, bring it on.