Jokic Is Unstoppable in Potential Nuggets-Celtics Finals Preview | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 7 мар 2024
- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Rob Mahoney react to the potential NBA Finals preview between the Celtics and the Nuggets.
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Bill Simmons therapy session right here
Haha I hate to be a LeBron here but I haven’t bought for a second since I should favor the Celtics over the Nuggets to win a title this year. Sure nuggets can’t survive an injury to a top 3 guy, and Boston potentially could so I understand liking them more from a gambling perspective but how many times do we have to watch Murray and Jokic go apesht and Tatum and Brown slow down before we don’t assume regular season dominance or mediocrity, especially for the defending champs doesn’t say how well they are capable of playing when the games matter again. Jokic destroyed everyone without an all star teammate, first guy I’ve seen do this to this since my all time favorite playoff run Dirk in 2011 to deliver Miami fukboi karma for those cringe pep rallies and acting like they were already defending champs and they had only one great playoff run EVER. Took the craziest comeback in NBA history to not go 1-3 together.
Ppl keep bringing up “Celtics only made 29% from three and if they make a couple more threes they win.” You could say that about any loss. Nuggets only made 4 threes on 19% from three. If they made a few more they would have won by double digits. It is same exact argument.
The difference is Boston take a much higher volume of 3s, denver rely more on 2 point attempts. The main issue of this game is how much of a non factor Tatum was as the point of attack. If he plays up to his ability as a point forward i do not think Denver can beat boston. Tatum needs to be more decisive as the point of attack, his defense was very poor last night but i think that is more of an anomaly. Tatum refused to attack mismatches like murray which is what allowed denver to blitz him and keep him out of this game.
If we didn’t lose, we would have won
Right on the money! If pigs could fly I would be eating healthy protein ;)
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@@pstratos7😂😂😂
@@user-kp6ku3vz6uthe Celtics had 11 wide open jump shots and scored 15 pts off of it, the nuggets had same the same number of wide open shots and only got 6 pts. Celtics fan talking about Tatum not showing up yet at the same time Murray had a bad game as well.
This is Joker’s world, we all just live in it. ❤
It’s such a good world to live in though lol
It was embiid world before he got hurt remember
@@sbkamara2003who?
@@sbkamara2003you’re right. He won the title last year to prove it right?!!
@@sbkamara2003😂😂😂😂😂😂
First time here guys, its been a joy listening you talk. Mainstream media is so dead. Don't change anything. Cheers from Serbia.
Jokic is a 6’11 260 lb Steve Nash. Completely unstoppable offensive machine.
*285 lbs😅 but no argument on your point!
He is listed as 285 but he's really 260 and he looks like it too. He just plays like he is 285 lol!
@@torpedospurs Nah, he probably plays at 300+. My friend who is 6'3-4 weighs 245lbs, and hes no Jokic.
@@whowhat2224 Why do u say that? Just Google it a bit. He was listed as 284 in 2019, lost weight in 2020, but the Nuggets never updated his listed weight.
Jokic made his MVP case pretty strongly last night
He may not have won it last night, but I feel like Tatum definitely lost it. Whatever traction that he was quietly gaining by virtue of the Celtic’s stellar season… Jokic reminded people what an actual MVP looks like in a big game.
@@kode-man23 facts and it sucks cause Tatum is having a great season but this game might’ve did him in when it comes to MVP talks
@@SSJRome Tatum is not having a better season individually than Jokic , SGA, Luka , Or Giannis . He’s just playing in a better well oiled team . He stinks in the big games & in clutch playoff moments . I think he’s been massively overrated by the media. Because Boston is such a massive club with a massive fan base .
@@VLAD_P_ lol so triggered man that doesn’t change the fact that he has had a great season . And luka ??? Really ??
@@SSJRome bro Luka has been killing it this season . Triggered how ? Buy making a comment on RUclips. You must be a casual who doesn’t even watch the games if you think that Tatum is having a better season than Luka individually , Tatum is just playing on a way better we’ll constructed team. Luka is a way better clutch player , top scorer in the league , way better passer , you want me to go on ???
That hook shot pass to Aaron Gordon is one of the most insane and demoralizing passes I've ever seen and it will be lost in history.
Jokic is legitmately one of the greatest offensive talents the league has ever seen.
if he does it to finish off some playoff games it wont be lost
It was unreal. My brain couldn't compute that it was a pass until I saw it replayed twice.
They do that all the time lol but that AG put back dunk tho?! Sheeeeeeeesh 🥵
“One of the”- will be the thing that eventually leaves our vocabulary in the next two years. Always does.
It’s called the Finale-oop.
Nuggets fans don’t question it, we just celebrate it.
The thing with Jokic is that you need to give him something and he takes that gladly.
I was in the arena last night and it was the best NBA regular season game I have seen live or otherwise in a long time. Jokic is amazing in person and Watson I think has a all-defense in his future. He has star potential the better and better his shot gets.
When you see the Nuggets in person it's amazing how big they are compared to most teams.
Joker is the most impressive offensive player I’ve seen in my nearing 80 years
Hes unreal. He has a counter to whatever you throw at him. The last time I saw someone bother him was Dwight in the bubble when he was physical with him.
Hoping you are healthy! Salute to 80!
Judging by your profile pic, I believe you
@@rickyricardo2006 and that’s an old picture too!
@@sudanstowell2533 I thought the Lakers switching AD off of him onto Gordon and then cheating bugged Jokic, but Gordon stepped up and hit his threes so it didn't work.
The only shot the Celtics have a shot at winning a title is if Tatum plays at an elite level consistently. Last night was embarrassing.
He doenst even need to be at elite level. In first game he was somewhat decent but wasnt good and in this game he was just awful.Need more from DWhite and Jrue.DWhite was missing on O all night and Jrue woke up for like few minutes where he made 3 3s
The Jays both have to be on point it’s always either one or the other having a good game while the other doesn’t as much
I mean if he consistently plays well enough, we can win it.
Or injuries to other teams
JT always crumble when his time to shine. Celtics need to a better job of closing game and setting their offense because too many iso plays between the two J. That is not going to works in the postseason
Jokic is a PG on a center's body a coach in the game at all times
I’ve been what I consider a competent and knowledgeable NBA fan since the 04-05 season , so it’s exactly 20 years this season and up to this point LeBron 2012-2018 (playoff mode) was the best player I had ever seen by far.
But Jokic these last 4 seasons since he became an mvp level player is very close.
Lebron and Jokic are a good margin ahead of everyone else for me in this 20 years and that’s saying something because there’s
Curry, Kobe, Giannis,Kawhi , Durant , Dirk, Wade all as players who hit incredible peaks themselves.
04 KG, 03 Duncan , 00-02 3 peat Shaq are some of the ones I remember but too young to know besides stats and older versions of them.
Celtics have a perfectly constructed team and it doesn’t matter because they do not have a top-5 guy. Tatum is not that guy.
Sadly I think you might be right.
It mattered for 04 Pistons tho.
@13:56 Bill reading his dads texts was awesome 😂
Im a Boston fan, but it's not even close. The only way I can see Nuggets losing a series against Celtics is if Jokic is injured
"its not even close" he says about two teams that played two games that essentially both came down to the final seconds
@@AullThatTv dude you watched the game? We have NO answer for Jokic. Their offence is so simple: Give the Ball to Jokic. Celtics its so complicated... and all those 3 ponts shots.
@@adrianrodriguez6869 news flash: NOBODY has an answer for Jokic. How can you honestly say we have no answer for Jokic, that it's not even close, and that both games came down to the very end? With Tatum playing unlike his best self. If Tatum plays just a regular game in either Nuggets matchup this season the Celtics win those games. Nuggets are undoubtedly unreal, but to lay out the things you just said AND say they're not even close makes no sense.
Dude I feel you are in denial. To my point Celtics lost BOTH games, they don't have someone reliable like Jokic to make good play after good play. Tatum has proven he ain't it. @@AullThatTv
@@adrianrodriguez6869 I’m not in denial lol I gave you the reasons why your “not even close” evaluation is just not the truth of the matter but hey don’t believe in the team you root for, sounds like a fun way to be a fan!
I think I’m ready to call Jokic the best offensive player I’ve ever seen. His ability to get elite shots for either himself or his teammates at any point in the game is unparalleled. I was born in 1990 for reference of players I grew up watching.
I think lebron is the goat, but I've never seen anything like jokic. He's just unreal. The way he plays is so unique. He just has a counter to everything. I want him and luka to play together, haha, just to watch the passing
@@sudanstowell2533 Luka has to have the ball all the time
@@billwill1337 we don't know that yet. Its what he's been asked to do because he's by far the best option but it would be really interesting to watch them together.
Maybe diverse is a better word here guys. This is getting crazy. He is not a better offensive player than LBj or Mj or Shaq or etc. he plays the game the right way which is why its so impressive for someone as talented as he is
@@joshwilliams2400he's way better than Shaq and Bron. Shaq can't shoot.
10:10 the problem with the “if we just shoot better from 3 we win theory” is that the nuggets didn’t shoot well from 3 either
Celtics still seem to lack championship mettle. You can’t count on Jaylen Brown’s handle against physical defenses or for him to make critical free throws. Tatum has endless opportunities to make the final shot of games and always misses. The head coach is a narcissist who flat out refuses to adjust or call timeouts. All these years later when the chips get down for Brown and Tatum, they come up just shy.
Denver is the total opposite. They are clutch and prove it over and over
The thing is, Boston has soooo many good players, they could legitimately win even if Tatum is below is average self. Seeing KP and Holliday and White… holy moly this is a well built team.
Yes. Brad Stevens picked up where Ainge left off and put together a monster. This is definitely the most talented core around Brown and Tatum and you can’t expect a team to be more well constructed, that will also highlight their shortcomings if they don’t get it done this year. It really feels to me (as a Cs fan) it’s now or never.
i love that malone has bullied the media into calling him michael malone rather than mike malone, and i love that simmons still just calls him mike malone lmao
Outstanding observation about Brown's personality maturation and development of dawg since getting paid, he is feeling different
I’ve always liked Brown. Even when he goes into “it’s Jaylen Brown time” as Bill put it, he’s still easier to cheer for than some other guys that do it.
If he wasn’t playing for the Celtics he would definitely be one of my favourite players.
He was impressive. Good game
KCP is Denver's defensive MVP nearly every single game.
Not only is the Nuggets starting 5 the best in the NBA, but they have the most intelligent, exciting, and creative players of all time running the show from Point Center! On top of that, their brand of cutting, passing, unselfish basketball is a joy to watch if you really appreciate the game. No iso, one on one, trash talking, garbage. Just play the game the right way. Everyone should cheer for them!
I generally agree, but Jamal is definitely talking some trash out there haha.
Keyshawn would disagree and will not even take Joker because he is "bland"😅
Bill's dad was a 100% on point with his takes
like Greg Popovich, said Nikola Jokić is Larry Bird in the morning NBA and those two dudes have no weakness and there offensive game
When it’s all said and done Jokic will be the best center to ever play. His game isn’t going to nose dive as he ages either because he already plays like an old guy.
I have thought the same thing only thing is he isn't playing till he's 40. He's maybe got 6 or 7 years max.
Don't see Jokic getting a finals MVP at 41 like KAJ did, but time will tell.
It's crazy it doesn't feel like there's as much of a consensus around Jokic being by far the best player in the league as there was when it was clearly Giannis a few years ago, or Lebron in the mid 2010s, etc. I know I'm not saying anything new but he's clearly the best player of this decade so far and it's not even been close.
The issue with Tatum is that he has not figured out how to reconcile between his hero ball step back hard shots and creating for the team. He always has moments where he does it, like a shot he got JB last night, but he has never been as reliable as a jokic or Lebron at making the right play. It becomes glaring when facing tough teams.
Could you imagine how unstoppable the Celtics would be if Tatum & Jokic traded teams? A starting 5 of White-Holiday-Brown-KP-Joker
The replace KP with AG and Jaylen with Jamal and then... wait 😅
Tatum Ain’t Him
But Stephen a Smith said Tatum is the mvp and he knows everything about basketball? Hahaha obviously kidding. It was such a joke that the media kept pushing Tatum for mvp
Gonna be nice to see this Celtics team come up small in the playoffs as they do every year.
Im not saying this to be funny or contrarian but I feel like Tatum is a second option with a green light. i think he's just in a situation where you'll always be disappointed if you expect him to be the leading man of a championship winning team
Different team but i feel that way about Embiid but for somewhat different reasons. It’s criminal that a generational talent like him can’t be used effectively to get into and peak during the playoffs but even with his busted body aside, he hasn’t shown he has that killer instinct and QB1 intellect to lead any team to the Promised Land. I’m extremely Curtis to see what the Sixers are _really_ planning to do with all those picks they’ve been hoarding bc building around Embiid is a fools errand every single year, even more than Tatum who I still have hope for.
We need more input from Bill's dad. Wise man. No sugarcoating.
Will be interesting to see how Wembanyama plays him in years to come. That's really the only guy I can see making Jokić overtime.
Haha I loved Rob’s groundness of Bill in this ep.
To Bills credit he didn’t go full Tatum/Celtics mode, I think he did want a couple reasons not to hold the Celtics accountable, but he has stated previously that he doesn’t think Tatum is even close to MVP.
I’ve gotten off listening to pods on Spotify, so always looking forward to new B.S episodes on RUclips now
And the league needs more Bills dad rationality
idk that 50 piece v philly looked pretty easy ...but when that happens it looks like it happens by chance not bc jt diagnoses the defense and gets surgical w his decision making
💯
How could Tatum be the MVP is he’s not the most valuable player on his team?
Him having a dud game is what caused the loss…pretty good evidence of his value. But he’s def not the MVP, for the record
Who do you think is the most valuable on the Cs if not Tatum?
He’s probably getting mentioned because Boston has the best record in the league, and he’s the top scorer in the team, and I’ve heard a good defender overall.
Maybe a top five finish if they get to 60 wins, but I wouldn’t say Tatum is the MVP.
@@peterosesbookykp is easily more valuable then Tatum. No question
@@neilbuckeye3809 don’t be foolish lol
Bucks matchup better with Denver than Boston does
Maybe I’m wrong, but I think the toughest matchups for Denver are all West teams. If they make it out of the West, they’re gonna cakewalk in the Finals again.
100%! denvers defense did a great job rotating early behind blitzes n doubles and boston didnt! (still having ptsd flashbacks of AG putbacks n ally oops) if i had to pick one thing that was the story of that game
that and the flip side - the playmaking of jt and jokic when they got their touches whether it was scoring or finding teammates
Not a Celtics fan just love the NBA but I always asked everyone after the 2021 season that it's Jaylen Brown that's the best player on the C's and the Finals just cemented what I already knew. But then I watched Boston last season &it was obvious that Tatum was the best player on the team &the same is true for the 2024 season. So it looks like Tatum might have a "big-game" problem. This might be a Giannis-Middleton situation where everyone knows it's Giannis' squad but Middleton is the Bucks closer; the Celtics might need to do the same thing w/ Tatum & Brown. Cuz Jaylen Brown has absolutely been the better player for Boston in the Finals &a majority of their "big-games"
Bill, come on my man - grab your favorite dipping sauce and get some nugget love. 💕
Love when the only cope is 'if one of their starting 5 is out for a series they might be beatable.' No shit - all 5 would be starters on Boston.
And mazzula is still a pup against experienced coaches
I feel bad for jaylen, if Tatum made that wide open 3 within the final minute of the game (created from jaylen's great defense against murray too), the whole conversation switches.
Lol Finals preview 😂 Denver would sweep those losers even if they made it
The Celtics couldn’t hit a shot, missed more FTs than their average, turned the ball over more than normal, and still had a chance to win at the end. The Nuggets played their A game and the Celtics played their C game.
@@jasonavery- And that’s why the Celtics keep coming up short. Performances like these. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
Nuggets shot under 20% from 3 too man, far from the nuggets A-Game. Not having this revisionist BS one day after the game
@@jasonavery Your A game doesn't matter if you keep playing the C game. And the Nuggets don't need to play their A game to win. They closed out the Finals last year with 94 points on 18% 3-pt shooting.
Murray had a bad game and he was still better than Tatum. Boston made more 3s, took more tf and still lost@@jasonavery
There were some moments that probably shouldn't have gone Boston's way and did and they still couldn't pull off this victory. The Holiday 3-pointers are pretty out of the ordinary and Nikola Jokic ridiculous technical. on what was clearly a foul against him. It was there for Boston to have and yet they were that bad endgame team that they were in the playoffs so many other times. By the way I think the MVP decision has been settled.
Jokic was screaming at the ref to get the tech 🤣 Brown just clapped his hands.
No one is beating the Nuggets 4/7 times in a Playoffs or Finals series.
Yo Bill what did you think of Tatum's dad's coaching performance in the 4th quarter vs Melbourne United?
The league has a huge problem when people are debating who the Nuggets second best player is? Is it Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Jr or Aaron Gordon? They are all clicking. Jokic can easily dole out an assist to any other Nuggets starter on the floor. When Jokic drives he can kick back to Porter Jr or KCP from three. Murray is lethal from mid range and can drive to the cup. And then Aaron Gordon is the cherry on top who cuts down from the backside and cleans the boards whenever Jokic misses a shot.😂😂
Would Boston be smooth sailing with am injury to one of their role players though? Not sure why this is only a question for Denver.
Jaylen Brown cope and mental gymnastics are mind-blowing.
Joker is playing chess when everyone else is playing tiddlywinks
I have a serious question. Let’s say the nuggets win the finals this year and next year. Assuming it’s the same group next year, does this make Jokic a top 10 player of all time.
Just humor me for a moment.
Jokic would have three rings without playing with an all star on his team. He is clearly the best player in the league on a nightly basis. 3 MVPS in four years, and I think 4 1st team all nba.
This is all hypothetical of course, but humor me. That resume would have to vault him into the top 10. Wouldn’t it?
His accolades are top 10 worthy but he has to accumulate all the counting stats . We gotta see where does he end up on the all time points , rebounds , blocks , assist, steals lists
@@joel8692 out of those stats, I could see him getting top 10 rebounding, and definitely top 10 assists. He may end his career with the 2nd or 3rd most triple doubles too.
I feel like context alien grants him a spot in the 10 greatest. I don’t know exactly off the top of my head, but the 10 best players all won their rings while playing with another all star, yeah?
That last piece alone gets him a higher ranking in my greatest list
More like top 3. By then, at only 30, he would have a chance to be #1 and more impactful than MJ or LBJ, if, and its a big if he wins 5 chips and 5 MVPs
Jaylen Brown signed a bigger contract extension this summer than Jokic signed after winning two mvps, a championship and a Finals MVP.😂😂 Jokic should be the highest paid player in the league regardless what the salary cap is right now.😂😂
2:59 Tatum is a top ten player not top 5 he's poor in clutch i would have Luka SGA ja Edwards over him then you have embid freak joker all above him.
Top ten is pretty fair for Tatum.
Ja lol Jamal is more clutch seriously look it up.
I keep saying this it doesn’t matter how good the Celtics roster is if Tatum doesn’t play with that dog and that edge it won’t mean anything they’ll be empty handed in the end again
Craziest thing is Nurkic is one of the only guys in the league that can at least make Jokic work. Everyone else it looks like he could score 50 PPG if he was more selfish
Tatum is great like Paul Pierce was great. Will never be an MVP though. That’s ok. That’s something I think that Brad already knows hence the team built around him. But there isn’t really a better option out there so as a team the Celtics gotta figure out how to win without having the best player in a finals series because they are gonna have Tatum for a long time.
You could trust Paul Pierce in the biggest games and moments, unlike Tatum.
The biggest reason Tatum was considered a MVP is hes the best player on the best team but it could be argued that KP is actually the best on the team! KP is 5th in WS/48 & Tatums 15th
Joker goat talk begins if they repeat this year... Seriously.
Somebody please keep all drugs and sharp objects away from Bill.
Jason Tatum crumbles under crunch-time pressure. Jokic outright does not care.
Man,i still am hoping for #18,but after the collapse against Cleveland, then losing to Denver, i am starting to be really concerned.
LOL everyone rolls the warriors Billy. Y’all choking 💯.
this is the same guy that just refused to even talk about the bucks beating the celtics on NATIONAL TV this season by nearly 70 points. Was the most humiliating loss ive ever seen in the sport of basketball and bro just ignores it to pretend his team is a world beater. It's bizzare media these days.
Meniscus surgery just 4 weeks is totally impossible no matter what, normally this is 6 months to a year recovery unless you want to blow your knees completely. KAT is out for this season 100%
Tatum and Brown are like Curry and Green before Curry made everyone know he was the man on the team. Brown has the grit to take over but everyone wants it to be Tatum
When the other team knows that Tatum is getting the last shot every fukin time and he's only 35% and you have 4 other pretty good shooters LET SOMEONE ELSE SHOOT IT ONCE IN A WHILE
Mahoney is money on Group Chat. No umms ahhs pauses whatever. A professional take-deliverer hahah
Be patient with JT. He is still 19yrs old
If tatum wants to call himself the best in the league he deserves all the criticism he gets. Fun fact, the most clutch field goal percentage in the clutch over the last three years. Jokic at 55%. The worst is tatum at 38. That's the diff
Denver proves that length isn’t everything on defense
Tatum is too hit and miss in the most important games and moments, up to this point,to be seriously considered an expectant #1 on a championship team. If he doesn’t get them to a title this year with the talent he has around him and most likely will end up with the best record in the entire league, then he probably never will.
I work at Ball arena Bill,& no it wasn't half Celtic fans but there were alot-maybe 25%. But that's always the case-same when the Bruins play the Avs. I assume that's the case in most arenas but we have a lot of you annoying Bostoners here for some reason.
But we now also have the best home record in the NHL...Avs are 25-6-0,& the best home record in the NBAs west(& I think 2nd best overall behind the Celtics)-Nugs are also 25-6. Boston brings BY FAR the most visiting fans in both sports for some reason-but its not like that for any other teams.Otherwise we probably wouldn't have a combined 50-12-0 home record for both teams-lol.
I love to see Super Teams fall
not a superteam. if 2/3 of a "big three" aren't even comparable to any other "big three," they're not. Big threes: Bron/Wade/Bosh; Pierce/KG/Allen; Magic/Hakeem/Worthy; Curry/Thompson/Durant; TD, Parker, Ginobili. Brown isn't even close to any of those #2 options in superteams, and Porzingis is like a star role player
@@slightexag they have a big 4 what are you saying. Porzingis was the best player on the Wizards. Jrue holiday is the best Perimeter defender of his generation. They just added these guys in addition to the superstar and other guy with the highest contract in league history
@@vrnclr11891. best player on a terrible team last season who rarely plays two games in a row, 2. third option great defender on a title team who's now a #5 option and second best guard defender on this team, 3. an all defense first team role player guard who defers too much to the stars around him, 4. an all star with consistency issues, and 5. the worst superstar in the league with terrible clutch stats. I have watched every Celtics game this season and am a Celtics fan. This is a great team, but it's not a superteam. It's a well-constructed roster with at least 2 role players in their starting lineup, if not 3. Do the Nuggets have a superteam Big 4 with Jokic, Murray. Gordon, and Porter Jr? What about Clippers with Kawhi, PG, and Harden? What about Bucks with Lillard, Giannis, Middleton, and Lopez? Just because you have a good team doesn't mean it's a superteam. A superteam means dominance because of a confluence of top end stars, not a collection of two borderline all stars, a "superstar" who can't score in crunch time, and two defense-first guards. They have a good TEAM because the players have chemistry. Not because the players have intrinsic individual dominant talent, which is what makes up every superteam in the history of time.
At what point can we say out loud the thing / question we wanna say about Nikola Jokic?
👀 say it
What is that?
That he’s already top 25 and has a top 10, possibly top 5 ceiling? Higher than KD and Steph
@snomang11 I've never seen anyone play basketball like him. Honestly if your asking me if I want peak kobe, Duncan, Russell, or jokic now, I'm taking jokic.
Bill's dad has a totally clear vision of this team. It's that super critical quality fandom that doesn't pull the wool over your eyes with half full bullshit. Tatum is just not good enough, especially when it matters. Tatum cannot get his own shot unless he's got a ridiculous mismatch. He cannot score at will like the best offensive guys in the league: Curry, Brunson, Jokic, Shai, Ant, etc. He cannot get to the line when his shot isn't falling. The Celtics are a great team, but between Joe's know-it-all, outthinking common sense coaching and Tatum's worst superstar clutch stats in the league profile, i don't know how the Celtics could win 2 games against this Nuggets team, much less 4. Tatum has been the problem in basically every loss this year and is the only guy on the team who hasn't bought into playing the right way. Brown screws up and has bad games, but not because he's approaching the game the wrong way. Tatum is a hero ball sore thumb on a beautiful game roster.
Denver is going to repeat, but I will give Boston their due, they owned the 1960's.
Austin Reaves got a podcast 🤔
The only team that can beat denver is Miami Last year Jimmy butler in finals is not healthy after that injured against Josh hart. I don't think boston will reach finals the reality is Jimmy Butler is Better than Jason tatum
Last 2 games are what scare all Celtic fans; we’ve seen this movie way too many times
The Celtics can make the Finals but I think they'll lose to whatever team makes it out of the West. The Thunder, Nuggets, T-Wolves, and Clippers imo are better.
The Celtics are 2-5 against those teams. Their win vs the Clippers came without Kawhi. They'd probably be 1-6 vs them if he'd played.
Yeah, the Celtics 2-5 record against the top 4 teams in the west (would probably be 1-6 if kawhi played the game when he was hurt) is the biggest reason the fans don't fully believe in them.
Jaylen brown gets all the slack but Tatum if they don't win it all will probably be the culprit
again - i can only listen to bill when he is not totally hyped about his celtics - then he is totally on point - and then i can also say something positive like dont give up your celtics tatum is still young - otherwise i had to hate
why does the dude on the right shake his head so much? he's a damn bobblehead.
Tatum is the best player on the team with the best record. Joker is the best player on the best team.
If nuggets make more than 25% from 3, which they will, it's not close
Trade Tatum for Bron
(I'm being flippant)
I agree Mazzula is clueless about the pace of the game. If the momentum shifts in the favor of your opponent call a time out then foul them to knock ‘em out of their rhythm. He did do this last night when Phoenix started closing the gap in the third, however he failed miserably against Cleveland and Denver in this regard.
Play Tillman and Horeford on joker bcz they are strong enough to get under him and affect his balance. A big part of Jokers game is his power and balance. Put Porzinges on Gordon and Porter where his length will be disruptive. End of the games let Holidqy be the primary ball handler. Tatum uses too much energy to get bad contested shots. Movement ball and body works during the game and at the end. Just saying.
Tatum is a great player. But he still hasn't shown he can LEAD a chip team. And while Boston has the best roster, in crunch time, they don't have Giannis/Dame closer or a Jokic/Nuggets team coherence.
Bill's dad is 100% correct here. People who watch with their eyes and don't look at the stat sheets all see Tatum as one of the most fraudulent stars in the league. Something isn't right with him.
Jaylen brown tryin to live up to his GOAT-level payday.
JT's mind is on his contract$, more than the game.
Joke was on Celtics fans cheering on our turf. They just pissed off & fueled the Nuggets more! I’d never cheer on another’s home team turf, that’s disrespectful.
Kornet didn’t play what do you expect
lol no one besides celtic fans thought tatum should b anywhere near the mvp race
I think there was some mainstream media talk but that’s just cause sure things are boring. Sure things months out are death sentences for 24/7 media. And I guess there might have been some American drama since it’ll be 6 straight years of non American MVP and with Shai, Luka, and now Wemby it could be a decade before an American wins it
Celtics gonna have to get through round one Miami first though. 😂
Celtics fans better hope Tingus Pingus knees hold up.
Man I hate the Celtics but don't even talk about things like that. That's just a really shitty thing to do.
Its just a fancy way of saying that he hopes Porzingis stays healthy @sudanstowell2533
Free throws?!?!?!?