I suppose we all get moved by different things (I live alone and have to look after myself...so I suppose it's not that close to home for me!). The most moving one so far for me was when Brenda got upset about that FBI guy who couldn't stay. Her crying with Rhoda got me. Julie Kavner is the best actor in the whole thing for me.
I have known some men who couldn't cook, not even knew how to make coffee. I like Rhoda's hair style in this ep the best of all those she ever had, with the short braid in back, and the rest of her hair loose. This episode is funny.
Ron Silver we know more of having a beard than not. A lot of men like Gary and generations before couldn't boil water...They considered it "women's work". The 60s and 70s were seeing a dramatic shift in men being expected to take care of themselves
I wish that they would have filmed the script that was entitled “Your Good Friend, Phyllis.” Phyllis Lindstrom comes to NY and gets into trouble and she has to call Rhoda. Sadly, it was never filmed.
I don't remember underwear being available at the Gap, Miller's Outpost or any other store where we bought our denim in the '70s. But anyway the point is that Gary was immature and depended on his Mother and allowed her (and all the women in his life) to take care of grown-up things, even though he had his own business. It's one of his ways of demanding affection. They also exaggerated his dependence in this episode.
K Prieto....Too many men remain boys for too long. I once hired a 49 year old contractor whose mother still.bought his clothes. That guy did not want to be an adult. No mystery why he never married.
Imagine being able to actually get people to do all your basic life skills for you just by saying: "I don't know how"... "I'll never be able to"... "wouldn't it be easier if you would"...
THIS IS A GREAT EPISODE!!!! NANCY WALKER AS IDA KILLS ME. WHY DIDN'T RHODA OR BRENDA END UP WITH GARY??? JACK WAS ADORABLE TOO AS THE KANGAROO WITH THE BABY STUFFED TOY REMINDED ME OF WINNIE THE POOH & I'm 65 & I STILL LOVE WINNIE & FRIENDS. I don't eat tuna bc of heavy metals & mercury in the water.
Lol I never really had to !either Lol she did all that and died , I was scared turning it lol but stove no issue, lol but I feel him !!!! Sad how our parents do that build that fear about an oven. Lol I did know how to cook and maintain .
I don't mind apologizing to you at all because you're right, you were gracious in your apology to me. I am, also sorry because I didn't know you were waiting on me to do so for you.
Gary is not a mature man until he reaches middle age, does his own chores, works hard, and learns to think for himself. Gary is a lazy person who expects to be spoon fed by others.
The show just stoped being funny when they brought in the Lou grant look a like and when they busted up Rhoda’s marriage. It was always depressing with all of the woe with the sisters and the mother and the drunk doorman. I don’t know why I tried to like it back then.
Sad. Everyone i knew that I stayed close to except one , quit smoking over twenty years ago. Im one of them. I know 2 who threw the cugs and lighter out their window going down the road and that was it, the other just stopped one day. I've been off them since 99 or 2000. I was a heavy smoker too. I hope it doesn't come back to bite me. I heard your lungs can heal themselves. Now everyone wants to smoke legal pot. It has tar and stuff in it too. 🙄
This show is losing it's zest fast. I even put Mary Hartman temporarily on the back burner. I expect fun, clean, humor y wit. I should not have to file my teeth with a nail file to defend a so-called Jewish comedy. Once when i in a Boston area hospital i had a doctor tell me that judge Judy needed the competition. I'm strict y i had some moral teaching as a child y made a constant go of being a better adult. I stuck my nose into the Big book y became an avid reader y in several languages. You have choices. Your morals go up or they go down. God doesn't necessarily put a gun to your head. You fair better if you honest.
There are men of all ages who can cook well on top of the stove, but can't use the oven. It is probably the fact that they don't know the correct temp to use for what would be in the oven. A child could do laundry, the machines do all the work. Doesn't Gary have a clothing store? If so, he should be able to buy his own clothes. I didn't know Gary died in real life. Ida, Martin, and Rhoda, I knew about, but not Gary. Ida was so funny in this ep.
My husband loves to bake ! He throws flour on the counter and before I know it , without a measuring cup , he has the best biscuits you ever tasted. Even makes pies.
KatieLL.....I'm with you about the storylines. Thing is, this spin off was four years into the MTM show which was more than enough time to plan out characters and plot direction. These sitcoms had already become continual stories, like daytime serials. No reason to get stuck in a rut.
The first two seasons of the show were good, the third was awful but this fourth is terrible.....such stupid stories and annoying characters .... like Venture (a sad cross between Elvis P and Neil D - simply awful), Jack and Gary, especially Ida. Even Rhoda isn't as likable as she was in seasons 1 and 2. Brenda is the only character who developed well. Don't think I'll bother with the remaining episodes of this season and season 5.
Gary was a great character. One of the best on Rhoda. The show suffered in season 5 largely because of his absence. Ron Silver had a lot of charm.
Totally agree
And charisma. ❤
The tomato part! 😂😂😂. I busted up. Also, Jack and his kangaroo suit and baby. Lol
Jack playing with the baby kangaroo cracked me up :)
Gary was adorably charming and funny.
Yes he was RIP Ron Silver
Probably the most moving episode of them all. I'm over 30 and I need an Ida. RIP Ida, Gary & Martin
And now Rhoda :(
I suppose we all get moved by different things (I live alone and have to look after myself...so I suppose it's not that close to home for me!).
The most moving one so far for me was when Brenda got upset about that FBI guy who couldn't stay. Her crying with Rhoda got me. Julie Kavner is the best actor in the whole thing for me.
Gary died?
Ramone "How much does he want for them?"
Gets me every time.
Finally a funny episode again. Lol we all know a Gary. Bless their hearts!
Jody Swan And we all know a Brenda too!
my favorite episode....jack hopping like a kangaroo!
I was enjoying this and then I remembered - almost everyone has passed and this made me very sad.
Julie Kavner: last person standing.
....unless you count the dude who played Benny... whose name I've forgotten but I know he is alive
Even Benny is gone?
I love the bit where Jack is playing with the baby kangaroo in the background.
It's so cute. And Rhoda and Gary catching him. Lol
Cute and funny
Thanks for the RIP for Ron, & for Nancy, too. Wishing Valerie all the best in her challenge.
R.I.P. Valerie as well! It’s August ,2020 & sadly Valerie passed August 30,2019. R..I.P. Ramone as well! He died a tragic death!
A great episode and the best season Ron Silver was a special talent They should have kept him in season 5
Spoiler!
He may have moved on to other things imo
Brilliant episode. Brillian show!
Love watching it in 2924! Better with age imho
Brilliant episode! Rhoda: “Now’s your chance to be a grown-up...make a fist” (guides Gary’s arm into coat sleeve)
"He wants me to buy his underpants." "How much does he want for them?" LMAO!
Yeah lol That was a great line 🤣🤣🤣
Go Ramon!!
So damn funny
I love Jack playing with the kangaroo
Loved Rhoda Valerie Harper a class act and all the cast fun 😁🇨🇦🇨🇦
i love the beginning of the theme tune
I think the season 4 Rhoda Theme was the best. A big full theme song. That opening with the drums and electronic bass is fantastic!
Love 💕 Gary so funny 😂🤣😂
Love this episode. TOO CUTE!!!! 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙂🙂🙂🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Having watched this show binging. I wish the guys had been in the show earlier in the series.
jack in the kangaroo suit bit -epic fail.
Ron silver was a cutie in his younger days. :) RIP
I have known some men who couldn't cook, not even knew how to make coffee. I like Rhoda's hair style in this ep the best of all those she ever had, with the short braid in back, and the rest of her hair loose. This episode is funny.
I just pay my cleaning lady to do my shopping, laundry and cooking sometimes....Mothers can never be replaced but money always fixes the rest.
If you have the money.
my lil bro is gary and we had a mom like ida! i laughed so much! 😂
Love gray , funny episode 💖💖
This episode was hilarious.
Agree. Much funnier than some of the previous episodes.
Fun to watch Charlotte Brown go from writer, to associate producer, to producer, and here to executive producer.
MTM really nurtured their talent.
Ron Silver we know more of having a beard than not. A lot of men like Gary and generations before couldn't boil water...They considered it "women's work". The 60s and 70s were seeing a dramatic shift in men being expected to take care of themselves
Most jobs are like left handed tools ....both genders can use them lol
And we had fathers who served, so they helped with housekeeping.
And the moms went to work and left the kids to raise themselves and now look what a mess we are in.
LOVE Ida's last comment ! lol So suitable for today!
A GREAT EPISODE
What a shame the writers made Gary look like a fool here.....smh. I really liked his character in general. ❤️
I wish that they would have filmed the script that was entitled “Your Good Friend, Phyllis.” Phyllis Lindstrom comes to NY and gets into trouble and she has to call Rhoda. Sadly, it was never filmed.
The end was like sesame st lol . Aww cute
Gary owns a jeans store - you would thing he'd stock men's underwear so why would he have had his mother buying his underwear? LOL!
I don't remember underwear being available at the Gap, Miller's Outpost or any other store where we bought our denim in the '70s. But anyway the point is that Gary was immature and depended on his Mother and allowed her (and all the women in his life) to take care of grown-up things, even though he had his own business. It's one of his ways of demanding affection. They also exaggerated his dependence in this episode.
K Prieto....Too many men remain boys for too long. I once hired a 49 year old contractor whose mother still.bought his clothes. That guy did not want to be an adult. No mystery why he never married.
The son that Ida never have, lol.
Alot of art nouveau around Brenda, wondering if there is any symbolism attached
I love it
Imagine being able to actually get people to do all your basic life skills for you just by saying: "I don't know how"... "I'll never be able to"... "wouldn't it be easier if you would"...
Funny, funny, funny
THIS IS A GREAT EPISODE!!!!
NANCY WALKER AS IDA KILLS ME.
WHY DIDN'T RHODA OR BRENDA END UP WITH GARY???
JACK WAS ADORABLE TOO AS THE KANGAROO WITH THE BABY STUFFED TOY REMINDED ME OF WINNIE THE POOH & I'm 65 & I STILL LOVE WINNIE & FRIENDS.
I don't eat tuna bc of heavy metals & mercury in the water.
Jack is very smart....
Lol I never really had to !either Lol she did all that and died , I was scared turning it lol but stove no issue, lol but I feel him !!!! Sad how our parents do that build that fear about an oven. Lol I did know how to cook and maintain .
Gary shouldn't have worried about his hair. It was perfect.
Still haven't gotten my apology from you for being nasty and abusive to me. I'm expecting an apology like I gave you, otherwise
@@skunk69x29 I'm sorry.
I don't mind apologizing to you at all because you're right, you were gracious in your apology to me. I am, also sorry because I didn't know you were waiting on me to do so for you.
Gary is not a mature man until he reaches middle age, does his own chores, works hard, and learns to think for himself. Gary is a lazy person who expects to be spoon fed by others.
He will always find a woman to take care if him. " he's good in bed"
I once visited my Greek cousins in Chicago & they had that stupid clear vinyl covering over their living room furniture. So ridiculous !
Older people in the60s and 70s often protected their furniture that way. Sit on it in shorts and then try to get up in 10 minutes lol
The show just stoped being funny when they brought in the Lou grant look a like and when they busted up Rhoda’s marriage. It was always depressing with all of the woe with the sisters and the mother and the drunk doorman. I don’t know why I tried to like it back then.
Ladies, why ? Don't. don't . don't. Never in the history of the battle between the sexes has any man starved because he's lacking ambition.
All boys should be taught cooking and housework for their own good .
Ron Silver was so talented and so sexy.... It's just a shame that he died so young. Well, 62 isn't exactly young but he coulda gone a lot longer.
🥰🤗🙃
Jack tripping balls
How do they expect Gary to mature if they keep babying him? He needs a man around, a father figure, to teach him how to be a man.
Emily Edwardspuw
Emily Edwards It’s just a fictional character.........and bad writing.
Ida made that show...nancy was the best
Gary was a bomb. Brenda should have married him.
ha , ha , ha , he squeezed the tomato and it squirted on him , cruel to be kind - Jack hopped ! thanks
He's the son she never had. or wanted.
no one is self sufficent ! thanks
Gary needs to grow up
So many Garys out there with Peter Pan issues.
Even in the 70s. There’s TONS more of them now. Its absolutely maddening
@@EphemeralProductions
@@EphemeralProductions low testosterone levels. see the research
@@EphemeralProductions not my husband. He measures nothing and whips up the best biscuits ever. Even bakes pies and such. He is a great cook.
@@RepentfollowJesus awesome
Gary and Ida - Ron Silver and Nancy Walker both died as a result of their smoking.
Yeah, a lot of dead people in this episode.
Sad. Everyone i knew that I stayed close to except one , quit smoking over twenty years ago. Im one of them. I know 2 who threw the cugs and lighter out their window going down the road and that was it, the other just stopped one day. I've been off them since 99 or 2000. I was a heavy smoker too. I hope it doesn't come back to bite me. I heard your lungs can heal themselves. Now everyone wants to smoke legal pot. It has tar and stuff in it too. 🙄
@@RepentfollowJesus Congrsts on staying off the nicotine! Dick van Dyke quit 50 years ago and is still alive 98. Hope you are like him 😲
This episode is very annoying he's a conniving a user of people and they let him get away with it👹👹👹👹👹👹😡😡😡😡
They brought in Ida.... its,all over but the crying.
Uuuu
This show is losing it's zest fast. I even put Mary Hartman temporarily on the back burner. I expect fun, clean, humor y wit. I should not have to file my teeth with a nail file to defend a so-called Jewish comedy. Once when i in a Boston area hospital i had a doctor tell me that judge Judy needed the competition. I'm strict y i had some moral teaching as a child y made a constant go of being a better adult. I stuck my nose into the Big book y became an avid reader y in several languages. You have choices. Your morals go up or they go down. God doesn't necessarily put a gun to your head. You fair better if you honest.
By now the series is getting like Seinfeld. None of that tight family satire that worked so well in the early seasons.
There are men of all ages who can cook well on top of the stove, but can't use the oven. It is probably the fact that they don't know the correct temp to use for what would be in the oven. A child could do laundry, the machines do all the work. Doesn't Gary have a clothing store? If so, he should be able to buy his own clothes. I didn't know Gary died in real life. Ida, Martin, and Rhoda, I knew about, but not Gary. Ida was so funny in this ep.
350 or broil!!!
My husband loves to bake ! He throws flour on the counter and before I know it , without a measuring cup , he has the best biscuits you ever tasted. Even makes pies.
Gary was so pathetic, OMG!!
Wow, they must really have been running out of ideas for storylines. This was one of the lamest, yet.
KatieLL.....I'm with you about the storylines. Thing is, this spin off was four years into the MTM show which was more than enough time to plan out characters and plot direction. These sitcoms had already become continual stories, like daytime serials. No reason to get stuck in a rut.
It’s a matter of opinion. This was one of the greatest episodes of all time. And I’m right!
Gary was annoying in this episode
Stupid waste of time.
The first two seasons of the show were good, the third was awful but this fourth is terrible.....such stupid stories and annoying characters .... like Venture (a sad cross between Elvis P and Neil D - simply awful), Jack and Gary, especially Ida. Even Rhoda isn't as likable as she was in seasons 1 and 2. Brenda is the only character who developed well. Don't think I'll bother with the remaining episodes of this season and season 5.