Kanzi • Communicating Apes • with Dr. Sue Savage-Rumbaugh Download

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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  • @RobertaPeck
    @RobertaPeck 4 года назад +9

    Sue Savage Rumbaugh has dedicated her life to bringing out the highest abilities in these apes for we humans to be amazed at.

  • @trentappleman4597
    @trentappleman4597 6 лет назад +12

    The part where Kanzi models the behaviour of the words the researcher states for his sister really shows you how alert he is. His gentle personality and eagerness to learn new things are palpable in clips like these.

  • @alisalauzon9291
    @alisalauzon9291 6 лет назад +10

    Awww everytime.. his little chimp voice is just so cute... just tickles my heart.. lol!!! He's just so adorable!!

    • @dan74695
      @dan74695 2 месяца назад

      He's a bonobo.

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 3 года назад +6

    One of things that impressed with Koko is that she lied about spilling some milk. Lying requires abstract thinking.

  • @TommyAventador
    @TommyAventador 4 года назад +9

    So human like how he tried to stop Sue from hurting his sister, and pushing Sue away while trying to pull his sister from Sue.

  • @lonerider3536
    @lonerider3536 7 лет назад +10

    watch Kanzi with his son, 💘 How can we destroy these amazing little fellows? They are as intelligent as many of us and twice as loving and caring. Great apes are a true gift we should all cherish and protect. Kanzi is quite something, they all are. Great vid!!

  • @shelliepoitras2473
    @shelliepoitras2473 3 года назад +1

    Dr.sue you are doing an amazing job with these bonobos,,they're beautiful n so smart

  • @mickobrien3156
    @mickobrien3156 4 года назад +4

    "Some rules, like not jumping on the researcher's head, must be enforced.." HAHAHA

  • @yukimoon22
    @yukimoon22 9 лет назад +12

    This is great! I have been looking for a video on Kanzi for quite a while now, but this is the first one I've come across after intensive search that does the job brilliantly. Thank you so much for uploading!!

    • @tuncakstar
      @tuncakstar  9 лет назад +1

      Great, thanks for saying!

  • @etelrosenberg5141
    @etelrosenberg5141 6 лет назад +4

    Really interesting concept on standing upright leading to the use of consonants which contributed to our evolution. I love Kanzi.

  • @camdensubdivision3020
    @camdensubdivision3020 6 лет назад +33

    He's light years ahead of Koko

    • @jackvos8047
      @jackvos8047 3 года назад

      He taught himself sign language from watching Koko.

  • @sarachemelowski3904
    @sarachemelowski3904 5 лет назад +9

    Kanzi is such a beautiful bonobo soul.. I love his smile! And his squeaking is adorable! Shes lucky to have been blessed with an ape like him especially when the target was actually his mother, Matata they wanted to use for this experiment when Kanzi basically volunteered himself. I wish Dr. Sue would be nicer to him sometimes, and cut him some slack.. I mean Kanzi has a good life, HOWEVER he is still a research ape.. I mean she needs to yell at him because the poor thing wanted to touch the doll? Penny Patterson would laugh, and tease when Koko would misbehave during work.. well, experiments. I like Dr. Sue.. i just think she should have had a little bit more patience, and understanding. These are not children, although they ARE as intelligent as one, I just felt really bad for Kanzi. Like, Dr. Sue just take off the floor what's distracting Kanzi. Either way, Shes a very lucky Doctor, and Kanzi is a very special Ape. 🐵🐒

  • @shelliepoitras2473
    @shelliepoitras2473 3 года назад +2

    Goes to show gorillas, Bono or etc all have the capability to learn n understand different surroundings...such precious creatures

  • @joedupon5600
    @joedupon5600 6 лет назад +12

    I'd be bad to if i had a chain around my neck.

  • @Comingforfootballfans
    @Comingforfootballfans 3 года назад +4

    People here are such softies. Pretty sure Kanzi would fight for Sue if it comes to it. Stop acting like she doesnt care for him.

    • @lilah3078
      @lilah3078 Год назад

      Yes, I get that her approach was a little unorthodox but she didn't harm them in any way and instead showed that they can distinguish good from bad and be so caring that they usually try to deescalate conflicts and didn't turn on her even though they could have easily overpowered her. She was one of the first to advocate for granting rights to great apes alongside Jane Goodall, f. ex. on the show called "The Great Ape Trial" but doesn't get much credit for it, even though her research was used in court for restricting biomedical research on great apes.

  • @The_Real_Mier
    @The_Real_Mier 3 месяца назад +1

    Kanzi is a Bonobo….?!
    I’m confused as to why the narrator starts by talking about Chimps while the footage is clearly about Kanzi!

  • @dunringill1747
    @dunringill1747 4 года назад

    Nice video. Thank you for posting it.

  • @rosedawson2711
    @rosedawson2711 4 года назад +6

    0.38 😡😡😭😭

  • @zakuro8532
    @zakuro8532 3 года назад +3

    i have an unholy idea:
    1. give them Bonobos human vocal tracts through genetic engineering OwO
    2. teach them English

  • @terrymay2000
    @terrymay2000 5 лет назад +4

    Do these bonobos particularly, Kanzi, use the bathroom when they have to go?

  • @iwannaapple7190
    @iwannaapple7190 2 года назад

    There is an orangutan that can drive golf carts as good as any human. Looks like an old man with a beard when he drives.
    I mainly wanted to bring up the fact that many people think animals have no souls. I have even heard this belief from famous radio personalities on air.
    Its videos like these that make that point of view so wrong. I absolutely think ALL animals have souls with thinking and reasoning abilities. Hell, I've even seen a wild spider with cob webs stuck on its feet. A human bent down and video'd him taking the cob webs off with tweezers and for each leg the spider would raise its next leg for the person to take the cob webs off.
    That video was amazing and really made me take another look at how much even the smallest creature can think and reason on its own!

  • @elizabethcromwell9630
    @elizabethcromwell9630 3 года назад +1

    The way she grabs his chin though

  • @sherifam
    @sherifam 8 лет назад +7

    This is the first time that I'm on THIS side of things, but... why are they still treating Kanzi like a child? He's 34 years old, he's lived with humans his entire life, he's clearly HIGHLY intelligent, so why do they restrict him using negative reinforcement? He's a grown ape for Pete's sake! Let him do his thing, and he'll ask for help when he needs help! I'm clearly not insinuating that we release him into the wild, because again, he's lived with humans his whole life; he knows nothing but the human world, but... Maybe even get him his own butler and apartment! That seems the logical next step!

    • @minie7950
      @minie7950 7 лет назад +6

      SheriFam Productions you obviously know nothing about the evolutionary line of apes and the intelligence of primates.

    • @CC-gy5zp
      @CC-gy5zp 7 лет назад

      I agree, SheriFam Productions! I am appalled at how he was treated and then come to read these comment.. he is Not less than and Where is the compassion... I hope this is not how you treat children. heartbreaking.....

    • @alisalauzon9291
      @alisalauzon9291 6 лет назад

      Haha.. butler,and maid while at it. Driver, chef. Dang he will get bored!!! Lol.

    • @iBullyDemons
      @iBullyDemons 4 года назад

      I think you're applying too many human attributes to chimps

  • @howtobe247bookspodcast
    @howtobe247bookspodcast 2 месяца назад

    Caesar is home.

  • @fazabulhafs1194
    @fazabulhafs1194 4 года назад +1

    How can our brains understand speech and then our mouths develop the ability to make speech? Is speech came after understanding speech then there was no speach to try to understand I'm the first place. The ability to make speech must have come first.
    We must have developed a way to make speech and then develop comon sounds so that we can learn to make use of it and understand it.

  • @troythompson6273
    @troythompson6273 2 года назад +2

    Kanzi is a Bonobo not a chimp.

  • @vernettanaderabaldeo9946
    @vernettanaderabaldeo9946 2 года назад +1

    Is Kanzi and Teco still alive ?? How old are they? I am so intrigue

    • @lucykelly7152
      @lucykelly7152 Год назад

      I think they are. I think Kanzi is about about 35 yrs old. I saw a recent video on him, recently. He and PB are overweight now, and under different researchers.

  • @flatbedladyv2191
    @flatbedladyv2191 4 года назад +1

    How is Kanzi these days?

  • @alisalauzon9291
    @alisalauzon9291 6 лет назад

    Dogs can understand human speech lady!! He's not going to talk. He cutely sqweeks!!! I love his little sqweeks...

    • @pomponi0
      @pomponi0 5 лет назад +1

      Dogs' understanding of human speech is several levels below that of apes'. Fortunately for dog owners, we co-evolved and developed ways to communicate without many words. You can point at an object and your dog will follow your gaze (wolves can't do this), and dogs can make those sad puppy eyes and you understand they want you to feed them (they evolved some facial muscles specifically to do this).

  • @CC-gy5zp
    @CC-gy5zp 7 лет назад +20

    wtf am I the only one that has a problem with the way she treats him in the beginning?? I had to stop watching and then I come to the comment to see that no one said anything.. like this is normal?!

    • @joedupon5600
      @joedupon5600 6 лет назад +1

      Gmail Account that's what i said.I'd be bad with a chain around my neck.

    • @davezaffina1983
      @davezaffina1983 6 лет назад +2

      ummm they are wild animals not people... dont teach them right from wrong in our human understanding and watch them rip your face off.

    • @Astyanaz
      @Astyanaz 6 лет назад +4

      You people don't know much about Bonobos. Kanzi is probably smarter than you are.

    • @joshriver75
      @joshriver75 6 лет назад +1

      Gmail Account i can understand the human reaction. Afterall they are very human like! But the hair pulling is more their own language to get their attention. Something one bonobo would do to another. Surely youve had your chin grabbed as a child at one point or another. Do you really feel this is abusive??

    • @karemcmanama-kearin6620
      @karemcmanama-kearin6620 6 лет назад +6

      Actually, in the beginning, she is talking to Panbanisha, Kanzi's step-sister. In that clip, Panbanisha is a young bonobo, small and relatively easy to handle physically...and like a child (or a dog, or an elephant) can be taught what is 'acceptable' behavior around humans, and what is not. Once a bonobo (or any other large wild animal) grows up and has some weight to it, keeping it from ripping your face off (or your dog's face off) can be difficult. You probably don't really care what I think, but Sue Savage Rumbaugh gets unjustly slammed for her methods. She treated Panbanisha and Kanzi as a mother would a child, and she loved them like they were her own children. Animal experiments sort of suck, but love goes a long way towards making it palitable in my bood. It is not a perfect world.

  • @bethanyhensley2958
    @bethanyhensley2958 4 года назад +1

    This is so not okay they should not be treated as things they are not and definitely should not have chains and locks around their necks.

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 3 года назад

    Dogs understand human speech…not as well as a Bonobo, but they do understand.

    • @N7Sound
      @N7Sound Год назад +2

      Because apes are like 1000x times smarter than dogs. :))

  • @glennmiller317
    @glennmiller317 5 лет назад +1

    What the H***! You gave him the car keys?! Don't act surprised when the next thing you know is he'll have taken over the world.

  • @davidreynolds7376
    @davidreynolds7376 3 года назад

    >Now we must redefine tool, redefine man, or accept chimpanzees as human.

  • @lindahilger8488
    @lindahilger8488 3 года назад +2

    Why do you put.a lock on her neck

    • @lilah3078
      @lilah3078 Год назад +1

      I know your comment is old but she said in another video that it was part of the regulations. People were already getting on her case for allowing the bonobos too much freedom and being too close to them as they accepted her as one of their own. She talks about how she was ultimately bullied out of the lab in the video Ape Testimony 6. But at least her research was used as evidence in court to curtail biomedical research on non-human primates. I think the Smithsonian Magazine article about her mentions that as well.

  • @willnot3297
    @willnot3297 6 лет назад +3

    Umm, what's with the padlock around the neck.

  • @user-tk4fu2ze8o
    @user-tk4fu2ze8o 2 года назад

    11:41 smart

  • @leodowneyjr9594
    @leodowneyjr9594 3 года назад

    She's lucky though that these Critters are not her life back out at her though you know you're trying to pull someone's hair try to teach you a lesson if you go ape shit right there and take her out Ripper part I mean it's was dangerous thing to work around this extremely strong animals

  • @speedbird1598
    @speedbird1598 5 лет назад +7

    This woman is being abusive towards that Bonobo.

    • @missyb9438
      @missyb9438 4 года назад +1

      Speedbird imagine what she does off camera. He should have attacked her, she’d deserve it.

  • @missyb9438
    @missyb9438 4 года назад +1

    Fucking bitch! Grabbing him by the scruff of his head!!😡he’s an ape you nasty bitch🖕🏻🖕🏻😍

  • @twemont
    @twemont 6 лет назад +6

    She is mean to the animals !!!!

    • @missyb9438
      @missyb9438 4 года назад +1

      twemont she’s a nasty lez🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @1whitemoon
    @1whitemoon 7 лет назад +2

    honestly, I expected kanzi to completely fail the pictures test. so he does understand individual words. I'm not sure about sentences.
    telling him to 'cut the onion with the knife' is NOT a valid way to test this. he only has to know what onion and knife are. I mean, what else could he do with a knife? besides, living with humans he would have seen humans cutting onions with knifes before (especially onions placed inside a bowl). this may be simple imitation. they should have used sentences where the grammar matters. or at least test his understanding of verbs, by having one shoe off before asking him to 'take the shoe off'. if he tries to put the missing shoe back on, then he only understands 'shoe' and guessing the rest . again, there's only so much you can do with a shoe. or with a fridge (put in stuff, take out stuff). which makes me suspicious about this whole test. he clearly responded to the word 'untie', surprisingly. and then failed to respond to 'you can take it off now'. is it because that sentence had no nouns in it?

    • @michaelstoffel9668
      @michaelstoffel9668 7 лет назад +1

      1whitemoon Also she points to the bowl of onions then to the pot clearly indicating desired action. There's no doubt chimps are somewhat intelligent but I question how much of this is trained response to certain words as opposed comprehension of the meaning of the word. For instance when she said can you take off my shoe at first all he did was point at the shoe then when she repeated it and extend her leg did he try to remove it. Did he know what all of those words meant or did he know one word with context clues reinforced by constant training.
      When the baby was being punished did he react to her sudden change in body posture that clearly seems like a challenge, trying to protect the youngling but was to afraid to actually hurt her due to negative reinforcement. There is so much in this video that leaves me with more questions than answers. How did they train them to understand those words? why do they have to constantly repeat it? How much of it is the word and how much of it is body language? Because that's how animals communicate in the wild posture, facial expressions, and varying tones.
      for me although it was impressive i would have much rather them performed the picture test by pointing to the picture instead of saying the word, the have him point to a corresponding button on the lexigram associating the picture with the word. If he does understand language why not teach him phonetic spelling and put syllables and different cards and asking him to make the word, surly it would be easy enough to teach Mo Ney, or Ba na na. And if they can associate the symbols on the lexigram with words why would they not be able to recognize mo corresponds with the sound moe. Then ask them to put the sounds together with the lexigram to form words.
      Perhaps I'm hoping for to much, I like to think animals have the ability to understand to a degree but mostly because of body language and non verbal cues. I have no doubt animals feel emotions
      they may not understand what to call that emotion but if a dog gets a huge release of endorphins when it sees it owner that has to produce some sort of physical effect on the body. like wise with other animals. For example when i want to show affection to my kitten i rub my head against hers and pucker my lips like I'm going to give her a kiss, i give her no treats and say no words. Then later she will climb on my chest rub on me then lick my lips then continues to kneed and pur. Clearly that shows she associates that action with some sort of comfort or pleasant feeling or else she wouldn't engage it it freely with no coersion.
      i think one day chimps may be able to fully be capable speech but its not going to come from training with humans, i think it will come as their brain develops more to be able to process more complex information, and have a need to express that information, possibly starting with various toned grunts in conjunction with body language. To develop a need for their vocal cords to evolve. Which will probably take a very very long time. But I will be very pleasantly surprised if they develop that ability in my lifetime.
      Sorry for the novel I just really like this subject, i read animal behavior studies for fun sometimes lol

    • @biancamonique2397
      @biancamonique2397 6 лет назад +3

      Other specific experiments ran with Kanzi have shown that he IS sensitive to verbs and more rudimentary syntax. Namely, he uses verb -> noun formations and pays attention to word order. Unfortunately I don't have the specific citations for this to share.

    • @pomponi0
      @pomponi0 5 лет назад +2

      I understand your doubts about the cutting onions part, but to me the refrigerator and the shot parts prove he can understand sentences, especially since she was wearing a mask. Also, you can see Kanzi trying to understand for a second what she means.

  • @leodowneyjr9594
    @leodowneyjr9594 3 года назад

    Yeah that's in Conte's different to though if you look at him he has a sparkle that special Sparkle in his eye and I only like a human or higher up and have I mean chimpanzees AR smart but they're not the same level as bonobos don't have that little Sparkle as or quite smarter and I think he's even smarter than that

  • @maddygutierrez7985
    @maddygutierrez7985 6 лет назад

    Why don't you teach the sign language instead of these large charts with symbols that are not known to normal society so no one can communicate with Kanzi if his owner were to die etc

    • @theftking
      @theftking 5 лет назад +1

      You fail to grasp the entire point of the experiment. It's about _speech recognition_ and sign language doesn't involve any speech. The board of glyphs allows the bonobos to 'speak' in a way that sign language does not. If these apes were taught sign language, they'd never get so far advanced as to be able to "put the key in the refrigerator" or "take off my shoe; untie it first" or "get the ball that is outside".

  • @fanero3046
    @fanero3046 4 года назад

    I really hate these superimposed sound effects!