Here's EXACTLY How The Toyota Hilux And Tacoma Are Different! Dude, I Love My Ride @Home Edition

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    ( www.TFLtruck.com ) You may recognize the Toyota Tacoma if you live in the U.S., but that's not the truck the rest of the world would recognize. Instead, everyone else gets the Toyota Hilux. It's still a pickup, but how exactly is the global Hilux different from the Tacoma we can buy here? Fortunately, we have a viewer from Malaysia who explains how the Hilux is different.
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  • @diesvincent1904
    @diesvincent1904 4 года назад +218

    I love TFL thanks for keeping me entertained during the pandemic.

  • @Bru946
    @Bru946 4 года назад +807

    Here in the USA people don't realize that Toyota rules the rest of the world’s truck market.

    • @francisjoves2583
      @francisjoves2583 4 года назад +90

      Toyota trucks sold more millions than FSeries Globally

    • @rrebaza
      @rrebaza 4 года назад +65

      The US aftermarket industry would do a lot of money if they start doing parts for Hilux

    • @ericvaria7807
      @ericvaria7807 4 года назад +31

      If i have $50k and wanna buy a car i'd get a toyota truck not matter how ugly or bad reviews it has ✌

    • @alexfrankl7861
      @alexfrankl7861 4 года назад +23

      The truck market would be Volvo , Kenworth etc , the ute market would be a toss up between Isuzu , toyota .😎

    • @dinho890i
      @dinho890i 4 года назад +1

      Actually yeah you guys dont😂😂😂

  • @gonzalooviedo456
    @gonzalooviedo456 4 года назад +76

    Here in Peru and all over Southamerica we use the Hilux 95% for heavy work and 10% for family trips. Its a Diesel, 1 real Ton payload, and 99% of the Hilux are manual not automatic. There is no Crawl Control only 4H and 4L, rear diff lock is optionable.

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 2 года назад +1

      Payload and towing is effectively the same between US and European/Australian trucks (and cars).
      US trucks are rated much lower for safety and braking considerations, bc people drive much faster on US highways and roads, while towing and hauling- or in general.
      Same vehicles, but rated differently for different road conditions in the name of safety and capability

  • @MrIMCP
    @MrIMCP 4 года назад +187

    The Hilux doesn't use cables to hold the tailgate up it uses flat bar steel like on old trucks! That's cool!

    • @beaviccoon470
      @beaviccoon470 4 года назад +9

      Ye European trucks are classed as commercial vehicles and so they're more work ready with leaf springs and all sorts

    • @Marco-fi6gv
      @Marco-fi6gv 4 года назад +14

      In the US leaf springs are pretty much standard on pick-up trucks, not reserved for commercial vehicles.

    • @Rickmon01
      @Rickmon01 4 года назад +3

      Seems like the older flat bar steel would last a bit longer than the steel cables

    • @Marco-fi6gv
      @Marco-fi6gv 4 года назад +7

      @@Rickmon01 possibly, but steel cables are no slouch. Flexible, pretty durable and strong. The flat bars weakest point is probably the joints. Suspension bridges use steel cables and some of them have been around a very long time.

    • @AJ-qn6gd
      @AJ-qn6gd 3 года назад +2

      My 2015 Hilux has cables.

  • @johannsy3885
    @johannsy3885 4 года назад +102

    Here in the Philippines, it is one of the most reliable pickups that people get when they are loading heavy stuff. The hilux is mainly a work truck, in my experience it has the stiffest ride I have ever rode on both the 2014 model and the 2018 model comparing it to the others. People really get a hilux to use it for work and not for leisure.

    • @jose.q7557
      @jose.q7557 4 года назад +1

      Well get a Tacoma

    • @kylepongos4532
      @kylepongos4532 4 года назад +8

      For leisure or looks, people in the Philippines would go for the Ford Ranger. For work, they'd usually get an Isuzu D-max or Hilux.

    • @ShinzouWoSateSateSate
      @ShinzouWoSateSateSate 4 года назад +1

      ​@@kylepongos4532 i see many people in the country use it for leisure, too.

    • @gaestroorly4668
      @gaestroorly4668 3 года назад +2

      In Indonesia we use Suzuki carry or Mitsubishi Fuso colt diesel

    • @PedroGarcia-zf8zg
      @PedroGarcia-zf8zg 3 года назад +7

      Most people get the hilux for work because they last the longest with little maintenance.

  • @jacoe33333
    @jacoe33333 4 года назад +391

    Put that engine and transmission in a Tacoma. I will be the first customer to buy it.

    • @tronaboron2064
      @tronaboron2064 4 года назад +16

      It would be one seriously ling line!👍

    • @78bilwi
      @78bilwi 4 года назад +4

      jaco erasmus there is a company in the US who does that dieseltoys.com/

    • @jacoe33333
      @jacoe33333 4 года назад +9

      Pablo R Hodgson I have seen that , but look at the cost of doing that and then you have none of your electronics. Then try and smog it here in California.

    • @vicenterr7
      @vicenterr7 4 года назад +30

      No you won't. It has 160 horses, and you are going to complain it doesn't have enough power. Also, a diesel that averages 25/26 is a lot more expensive to run than a 4 cylinder midsize truck that makes 22/23 mpg on gas

    • @alexfrankl7861
      @alexfrankl7861 4 года назад +7

      The engine is rubbish , nothing but problems in Aus .

  • @charlesanim-mensah359
    @charlesanim-mensah359 4 года назад +67

    Hilux and the 76 series land cruiser are the most popular truck used by the mining and rough terrain companies across Africa

  • @jamieshields9521
    @jamieshields9521 4 года назад +81

    The Hilux in Australia has different specs with Workmate, SR, SR5, Rogue, Rugged n Rugged X. Same interior with manual or automatic.

    • @jacethatace16
      @jacethatace16 4 года назад +8

      Yeah way more specs than the south east Asia models

    • @muhammadhaziq7849
      @muhammadhaziq7849 4 года назад +2

      i think thailand has the most specs

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 4 года назад +5

      muhammadhaziq - reason is a factory in Thailand (2nd largest pickup market worldwide behind the US) makes most of the world's HiLuxes. Thai factories also make the Ranger, Colorado (both gens), Navara, Triton and most others...

    • @muhammadhaziq7849
      @muhammadhaziq7849 4 года назад +1

      @@syxepop they also have isuzu factories and they use isuzu the most for drag racing and for work

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 4 года назад +1

      muhammadhaziq - you mean the Chevy Colorado?
      Isuzu and GM has had relationships since the late 1960's one making the other's pickup or doing a single platform for both marques. In the last 2 generations one chassis made both trucks, Isuzu designing what became the OG Colorado / Canyon (still sold in some markets along with the last generation D-Max) and GM designing today's 2G Colorado / Canyon and today's D-Max.
      Right now BOTH makers build the trucks on their own factories (both have Thai factories) with THEIR OWN ENGINES, INTERIORS and TUNING, but underneath they are BASICALLY THE SAME TRUCK.

  • @rockview5756
    @rockview5756 4 года назад +202

    Hiluxs are king of the road for most developing countries.

    • @unfairsanic5089
      @unfairsanic5089 4 года назад +11

      They are king of north poles too

    • @Ilikepie18855
      @Ilikepie18855 4 года назад +13

      Rock View they are king everywhere.....

    • @tronaboron2064
      @tronaboron2064 4 года назад +4

      And non developed nations! I was surprised how popular they were in Madagascar, S. Africa, Columbia, Venezuela,

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 4 года назад +4

      TRONA BORON It's called Colombia

    • @Malc664
      @Malc664 4 года назад +2

      King offroad in OZ.

  • @jameela7899
    @jameela7899 4 года назад +44

    I was in Trinidad earlier this year and the Hilux is SUPER popular. I went to the dealer to check it out and they are pretty sweet trucks. Love the turbo diesel. They also have a lot of ranger wildtraks and Nissan Frontiers with the updated body style.

    • @trinidadandtobago7098
      @trinidadandtobago7098 3 года назад

      Yep we do 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹💯✌🏿

    • @kevinbaboolal4225
      @kevinbaboolal4225 2 года назад +1

      @@_SDC not really, trinidad is a right have drive country so not many left hand drive vehicles knocking around although there are a few older camaros, mustangs and other muscle cars

    • @CornStreetVEVO
      @CornStreetVEVO 2 года назад +1

      Only issue is the markup they put on them here. It's ridiculous

  • @freewayninja4065
    @freewayninja4065 4 года назад +66

    Lovely truck. In Nigeria we get the 2.7L 4 cylinder petrol and 4.0L V6 Petrol (Same on the 4runner). There's also TRD styling available too.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 4 года назад +10

      The 2.7 Petrol is the best choice if you want an engine that lasts 1,000,000 km.

    • @freewayninja4065
      @freewayninja4065 4 года назад +8

      @@rightlanehog3151 You're right. That engine can go forever with proper maintenance.

    • @mohamedalihebboul2214
      @mohamedalihebboul2214 4 года назад +4

      A lot of friends here in Algeria, have a 2.5L D4D (102hp, 120hp and 144hp) or the 3.0LD4D (177hp) and I can tell you that some of them have more than 1,000,000 km with the stock engine, and another thing here in Algeria You got Sahara and to be honest only Toyota's are living there...

    • @estebanamador7601
      @estebanamador7601 4 года назад +1

      I'm from Costa Rica and we only have diesel options, I will like to have the 2.7, really reliable engine that with good gears could be the modern 2L or 4y equivalent. How is the 2.7 fuel consumption? Do you have some numbers? Thank you.

    • @freewayninja4065
      @freewayninja4065 4 года назад +3

      @@estebanamador7601 It gets about 22mpg combined but in Nigerian traffic (Lagos especially), I get 17 - 19mpg combined

  • @jimmysando99
    @jimmysando99 4 года назад +87

    "The back seat, I guess is a bit tight, for Americans" 🤣🤣🤣 Lel

    • @jaymoar3561
      @jaymoar3561 4 года назад +9

      Jimmy Sandison we are fat that is true. 😆

    • @will8645
      @will8645 3 года назад +6

      @@jaymoar3561 facts

    • @satriaprathomo7539
      @satriaprathomo7539 3 года назад +2

      Sad but true 😏

    • @sprunkadct
      @sprunkadct 3 года назад +2

      I am american. I am eating chips while reading this lol

    • @jirya957
      @jirya957 3 года назад +1

      shiiiii it has more space than a colorado!!!!

  • @patrickhomza
    @patrickhomza 4 года назад +35

    THAT CUPHOLDER , I ALMOST CAME IN MY SHORTS

    • @morbius768
      @morbius768 3 года назад +3

      for real holy shit its groundbreaking

    • @kyleterry5190
      @kyleterry5190 3 года назад +2

      Y'all don't have cupholders in your pickups?

  • @QlisBbsa
    @QlisBbsa 4 года назад +12

    I would love to see the return of smaller trucks here in the US, especially with compact crossovers being so popular!

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 4 года назад +2

      QlisBbsa - most likely those COMPACT pickups will be of the unibody FWD-based variety. Check the soon-to-be-built Hyundai Santa Cruz and the rumors about a Focus / Escape-based Ford Courier.
      Both would be smaller and quite a bit cheaper than a 2G Honda Ridgeline.

  • @g7lethal
    @g7lethal 4 года назад +32

    exactly! no one is caressing their dashboard while going down the highway, great review he did

  • @elnietodeanadelia
    @elnietodeanadelia 4 года назад +44

    Outstanding video, Simon. Stay safe out there!

    • @ST-wi9eq
      @ST-wi9eq 4 года назад +4

      elnietodeanadelia thank you and you do the same 😄

    • @rondail5675
      @rondail5675 4 года назад +2

      @@ST-wi9eq , video is well done. Best wishes for U.S.

  • @paulsmith904
    @paulsmith904 4 года назад +67

    I really enjoyed riding in them while I was in elsavador every now and then I would drive around the base there. They ran very smooth and was very comfortable to me. I wish we got a diesel here in america for the tacoma.

    • @drxppedsupraa826
      @drxppedsupraa826 4 года назад +2

      i’m part from el salvador lol. but i rode in a 6 speed manual one turbo 4 cylinder diesel i loved it.

    • @getgrappled4802
      @getgrappled4802 3 года назад +1

      I’m Salvadoran too I rode in a Mitsubishi L200 while I was over there loved it

    • @motorpolitan8884
      @motorpolitan8884 2 года назад +1

      If you think a Hilux is comfortable you'd think a Ford Ranger to be a Rolls-Royce!

  • @fohpono8884
    @fohpono8884 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for this great look at the Toyota Hi-Lux, which is probably not known in the USA. When we lived overseas, I had two Toyota Hi-Aces, a 12 Seater with a 1.6 L petrol engine and a 15 seater with a Diesel. Both were great and super reliable which was necessary in the long trips to the villages on the dirt roads. I knew several guys who drove the Hi-Luxes in the Highlands loaded with the locals squeezed in the beds. I drove a Landcruiser with an inline 6 cylinder 3L Diesel. It took me through some of the most harrowing adventures in the mountains and through rivers that were so flooded they submerged the bonnet/hood. Those Toyotas were tough and trustworthy cars!

  • @meep1755
    @meep1755 4 года назад +5

    Just got my 2020 Tacoma TRD sport last week, loving it!! Thigh is a beautiful truck.

  • @DirtShy
    @DirtShy 4 года назад +16

    Thanks Simon..I wish we in the US could get the 2.8 diesel in the Tacoma. I was just listening and smiling at Your truck purring at idle in your video.

    • @Drskopf
      @Drskopf 4 года назад

      Always love that purring on the Hilux diesel since the 90's when I was a kid in Nicaragua!! Thats their very characteristic engine sound!! I also remember they had two styles on the Hilux the lower ground one and much higher ground clearance like the one in the video!!, Bulletproof vehicles..

    • @NoaSeret
      @NoaSeret 4 года назад

      Toyota made a so much better than this shit** engine 2.7 the last one 3l turbo was wayyy better

    • @malandvulamachawe6323
      @malandvulamachawe6323 4 года назад +1

      There is LHD version of this truck. You can import it.

  • @selfofthephalanx
    @selfofthephalanx 4 года назад +3

    I have the 2016 version of the Hilux being reviewed here with the older 3.0L diesel turbo intercooled engine. It is a tough little workhorse and fun to drive on and off road with IFS and a solid rear axle with leaf springs which might seem like primitive technology but it's a part of what makes these trucks so reliable. I always look forward to driving it. An excellent product.

  • @danielmaybee68
    @danielmaybee68 4 года назад +172

    If Simon isn’t a native speaker his English is impeccable

    • @silverstacker8282
      @silverstacker8282 4 года назад +12

      Simon has spent some time in Canada. That’s a Canadian accent.

    • @temur72
      @temur72 4 года назад +3

      @@silverstacker8282 Being CanadianI could not tell he had an accent

    • @ST-wi9eq
      @ST-wi9eq 4 года назад +40

      Daniel Maybee hahaha actually I'm originally from Virginia but just living out here and I've lost some of that American accent so maybe that's why I sound Canadian? 😂

    • @TaaarrrrHeeeels
      @TaaarrrrHeeeels 4 года назад +8

      I prefer the look of the Tacoma's but respect to the Hilux.

    • @damiangutierrez9103
      @damiangutierrez9103 4 года назад +4

      @@silverstacker8282 English is the second language of Malaysia because it was a former colony of the U.K. but yea he speaks like if he's from Canada or the U.S.

  • @BPJac
    @BPJac 4 года назад +75

    I LOVE the Hilux - I had two of them in my previous life in South Africa. I had a 2.7 gas and also the 4.0v6 gas which is the same engine we get here in the Forerunner. In my opinion the Hilux is a lot better than the Tacoma for working. It has higher payload and towing numbers than the Taco - almost comparable with the Tundra in that regard - especially payload. For the really hard jobs you need the Land Cruiser pickup of course.

    • @jasonw8124
      @jasonw8124 4 года назад +3

      The higher towing and payloads are only because other countries use different definitions, it's not that the truck in SA was more durable or sturdier.
      You can see common passenger cars in Europe towing RVs and boats, but their USDM siblings are either rated very low, say 1500 pounds or not at all.

    • @BPJac
      @BPJac 4 года назад +10

      @@jasonw8124 That may be true, but trust me, both my trucks had over 150K miles when I bought them, and they were sturdy as the day they rolled off the factory floor. Also keep in mind, they lived in the 3rd world. Roads are not as cushy as here 😁. I fully believe that a Hilux will outlive a Taco given the same treatment. Tacos are soft in comparison.

    • @aminman15
      @aminman15 4 года назад +3

      r&d has been put in the Hilux for decades; Tacoma is relatively new. I do, however, love the look of the Tacoma.

    • @robertryan7204
      @robertryan7204 4 года назад +3

      @@jasonw8124 totally wrong definitions of got nothing to do with it Hilux is built to a different standard another words it is a totally different vehicle

    • @14ORION88
      @14ORION88 4 года назад +5

      Outside Australia, Asia and Africa the Land Cruiser Pickup is actually unknown

  • @maxcactus7
    @maxcactus7 4 года назад +5

    I REALLY wish Toyota would still offer a SIMPLE, PLAIN, BASIC version of the Tacoma like this in the US!

    • @PedroGarcia-zf8zg
      @PedroGarcia-zf8zg 3 года назад +1

      They need to offer a basic cheap 2 door manual 4x4 version.

  • @jhandal311
    @jhandal311 4 года назад +25

    Finalllly someone does this!

  • @OKFrax-ys2op
    @OKFrax-ys2op 4 года назад +10

    I visited a Toyota dealership in Mexico, the Taco was the same price as the US ones, the Hilux was in the low 20k range. I want a Land Cruiser

    • @ashketchup949
      @ashketchup949 3 года назад +2

      Damn. Mexico gets the Tacoma and Hilux?

    • @OKFrax-ys2op
      @OKFrax-ys2op 3 года назад +1

      Ash Ketchup What hurts is you can’t go down and bring one up legally, because of emissions and safety laws

    • @reyperez3424
      @reyperez3424 3 года назад +1

      Ash Ketchup
      Yes

    • @reyperez3424
      @reyperez3424 3 года назад +2

      A friend bought one for $19k in Mexico, Hilux 2.7 MT 4 door

    • @OKFrax-ys2op
      @OKFrax-ys2op 3 года назад +1

      Rey Perez How does he like it?

  • @keinnoj1619
    @keinnoj1619 4 года назад +10

    I drive one of those. I truly love the sound of GD engines, the sound is soo refined compared to the previous KD engines.

  • @peterhoma6385
    @peterhoma6385 4 года назад

    I own a 2018 Tacoma DC/OR premium package with fox shocks front and rear with reservoirs it has 1.5 inch lift in the front and 1 inch lift in the rear with TRD pro wheels wrapped with toyo AT’s , I have to say it has been my most favorite truck I have ever owned , absolutely love it 😍

  • @timemachineeddie1146
    @timemachineeddie1146 4 года назад +10

    I've owned two Hilux's over the years. My latest truck is a Toyota 1994 Toyota 4 x 4 I purchased 25 years ago. I never liked the look of the Tacoma. The Hilux is awesome with a single cab and standard shift. Great video and thanks for sharing.

  • @mrvoyagerm
    @mrvoyagerm 4 года назад +8

    Jaco Erasmus is absolutely correct - put that engine in a Tacoma and yes I would buy it yesterday.

  • @Ethan-mv2un
    @Ethan-mv2un 4 года назад

    Got the 2018 SR in Australia. I've only ever owned Hiluxes. Best car ever. Pulled apart the chassis, engine bay, etc really easy to see how simple and well designed everything is on these legendary Japanese trucks..

  • @beardlifeman
    @beardlifeman 4 года назад

    I always learn a lot from the TFL videos keep up the great content!!!

  • @user-fi1xu1pp7p
    @user-fi1xu1pp7p 3 года назад +4

    That cup holder is absolutely legendary. I don't know why I like it, but I just do.

  • @paul_hd1875
    @paul_hd1875 4 года назад +9

    Glad to know there’s nothing in Toyota’s immediate future that’s going to make me regret my ‘20 TRD ORP purchase.

  • @09blackcobaltss
    @09blackcobaltss 4 года назад +5

    Wow very great video by simon everything was well explained and pointed out. Weird that other markets dont have TRD and off Road version. Cant wait for more of these videos.

    • @ST-wi9eq
      @ST-wi9eq 4 года назад +1

      09blackcobaltss thanks but forgot to mention that it comes with an Aisin 6-speed auto

  • @GATORADDAM
    @GATORADDAM 4 года назад +1

    Great job!
    Somehow I always chuckle when you say "veeedio". Hahaha.

  • @Afrikaaner11
    @Afrikaaner11 4 года назад +104

    Aesthetically I prefer the Tacoma.

    • @HAHA.GoodMeme
      @HAHA.GoodMeme 4 года назад +11

      and yet functionality wise i prefer the hilux. Cept the sliding back window.

    • @R281
      @R281 4 года назад +7

      I don't like how the Tacoma looks, but looks are subjective.

    • @ChuckRage
      @ChuckRage 4 года назад +1

      Same

    • @weetbix2083
      @weetbix2083 4 года назад +1

      @@HAHA.GoodMeme Sliding window is available in most other markets

    • @eduardogiordanelli2680
      @eduardogiordanelli2680 4 года назад +2

      This is not the ultimate version of the Tacoma, there is a Hilux TRD with the 1GR-FE and “luxuries”

  • @IJBCI
    @IJBCI 4 года назад +40

    Toyota! Give the Tacoma a diesel. Great video

    • @axel3895
      @axel3895 4 года назад +2

      Toyota diesel pollute a lot they won't pass California test

    • @MrOner07
      @MrOner07 3 года назад +3

      toyota tacoma is petrol?...i have never seen a truck that is petrol.... we all use diesel here for trucks like the hilux

    • @gabrielnascimento1021
      @gabrielnascimento1021 3 года назад +1

      @@MrOner07 most of the trucks in Brazil are diesel, because it's cheaper than gas, and btw the gasoline has 27% of ethanol, so gas trucks have horrible gas mileage

    • @gwot
      @gwot 3 года назад

      @@MrOner07 only recently, about 5 years ago, North America started getting diesels in our 1/2 tons, and only chevy/GMC offer a diesel in a midsize. And Ford only offers them in the higher trim models, which no construction or actual working truck person would buy... majority of trucks are petrol, more diesels in the 3/4 tons and up. Toyota doesn't offer diesel, period.

  • @airstreamsam6985
    @airstreamsam6985 4 года назад +2

    I’ve got a 2016 Hilux with the 2.4 diesel and can get 38mpg on long motorway drives. Still around 30mpg towing.

  • @jaybajan
    @jaybajan 4 года назад +3

    I love my 2015 Toyota Hilux, here in Barbados its the best selling pickup, mine came with the 5 speed auto 3.0L

  • @LondonHasFallin
    @LondonHasFallin 4 года назад +15

    7:35 LMAO. My guy revs it to 1.2 rpm 😅

  • @syngensmyth4587
    @syngensmyth4587 4 года назад +6

    The short of it is the Tacoma is a lifestyle vehicle and the Hilux more of a work truck with some fancy options if you want. I think most Hiluxes can take one metric tonne in the tray so from one platform they have many body style variants, tray options and 2x4 and 4x4. From Toyota's perspective I imagine if they sold a Tacoma elsewhere in the world it would be one less Hilux sold and if Hilux went to the USA one less tacoma so the market may not lift.

    • @culio544
      @culio544 Год назад +1

      No way in hell are americans going to use a midsize 4liter truck as a work truck .

    • @syngensmyth4587
      @syngensmyth4587 Год назад +1

      @@culio544 No, because you guys get better choices the rest of the world misses out on. Like the full F series etc.

    • @nathanielkidd2840
      @nathanielkidd2840 Год назад

      @@culio544 I would, if the option was a Hilux. I work outside on unpaved roads, and the work I do doesn’t demand a large load capacity. The options in the US for me that make the most sense are a Ranger, Tacoma, four door Wrangler, or 4Runner. I would add the FJ if Toyota still made them, or the Bronco if Ford hadn’t added all the electronic dodadery to even the base model.

  • @kagishomashiloane2975
    @kagishomashiloane2975 4 года назад +2

    Hi. Thank you for another great video. We also only get the Hilux in South Africa. The only issue I have with it is the stability. I guess that comes with being a truck. It's good for those who want to put it to hard work

  • @NafaratMiyaMiya
    @NafaratMiyaMiya 4 года назад +5

    the Hilux is an amazing truck ... they were absolutely everywhere in the Middle East & Asia ... extremely reliable and very high resale due to their desirability. Great work truck or everyday personal vehicle

  • @TonyHeathcote
    @TonyHeathcote 3 года назад +13

    Im in Australia, and was realy looking forward to seeing how your Tecoma differs. Unfortunately, I found your video title missleading as the video was wholey anout the hilux. If was a giid video, but you mention nothing about how the Tecoma compares. Dissapointed the video did not live up to the title.
    Would love to see a 50/50 comparison of both as i am interested in knowing if there are any accesories that can be interchanged.

    • @vloors1981
      @vloors1981 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, was really looking forward to a side by side comparison

  • @LuisReyes-ii9dw
    @LuisReyes-ii9dw 4 года назад +13

    I own a 2020 hilux and i love it!!!

  • @TheU2bstud
    @TheU2bstud 4 года назад +1

    I saw these all over Panamá, they really need to sell these in the U.S. It’s a great vehicle, and narrower like the original pickups

  • @jmpattillo
    @jmpattillo Год назад

    My old 1989 4x4 (aka American Hilux) had a pull-out cup holder in pretty much that same spot. Brings back memories.

  • @FernandoJSL
    @FernandoJSL 4 года назад +5

    In Mexico you can buy wherever you Wants, I saw a lot of in California and Arizona too.

  • @managerofkisses6103
    @managerofkisses6103 4 года назад +4

    Been waiting for this! Thank you TFL!!!!

  • @gsthMD7099
    @gsthMD7099 4 года назад

    Awesome video Simon, keep up the great work.

  • @andyham6094
    @andyham6094 4 года назад +54

    The Tacoma just looks so much better imo but love the different diesel options overseas

    • @omisan771
      @omisan771 3 года назад +9

      I think the Hilux looks horrible and bloated. It has the same shape as the Ford Ranger or Chevy Colorado with its sloped windshield and hood. I'm glad we have the Tacoma in North America which still looks like a simple and rugged pickup from the 70's and 80's. It's obviously not as boxy, but it still has straight lines and clearly distinguishable engine compartment, cab and bed instead of the swooping "modern" lines of the Hilux.

    • @dallasmellsop5488
      @dallasmellsop5488 3 года назад +5

      @@omisan771 I mean I'd rather have a deisel over the petrol junk in a truck, the hilux has 370lb ft compared to the tacomas wimpy 265, meaning the hilux can 'tow 3.5 tonnes' compared to the tacos 3.08tone

    • @Pantelifts10
      @Pantelifts10 2 года назад

      Yeah if you strictly care about lots then Tacoma is better..everything else and especially truck stuff Hilux wins ez

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 2 года назад

      @@dallasmellsop5488 lmao that's because you drive a lot slower, champ
      You also have shitty hp ratings (201 lmao) and I wasn't aware 7700 towing capacity = 10,000 lb towing capacity.

  • @poppyneese1811
    @poppyneese1811 4 года назад +14

    I had always wondered the differences between the two trucks by Toyota. I’d love to see the diesel here in the states as well as Ford bringing their Raptor Ranger Diesel. This was a awesome video, really liked the truck, I’d love to see someone with a mini truck review, like my son said were everywhere in Japan.

    • @chippi3878
      @chippi3878 2 года назад +1

      It’s available in Mexico. Can’t we just order one or bring one ourselves one?

    • @darius3235
      @darius3235 2 года назад

      @@chippi3878 Gotta be 25 years old.

    • @jonlosito2004
      @jonlosito2004 Год назад

      Doug DeMuro uploaded a Hilux video. He reviewed it in San Diego California

  • @victorwanyoike1
    @victorwanyoike1 4 года назад +6

    what about a 94' celica?

  • @brianoconner3090
    @brianoconner3090 4 года назад

    Thanks TFL for sharing this comparison video. I have driven a 2012 Hilux before moving here in Canada. Toyota trucks are pretty reliable.

  • @davidrutledge1482
    @davidrutledge1482 4 года назад +1

    Drove a Hilux for 2 weeks in Central America and loved it

  • @TheCastLife
    @TheCastLife 4 года назад +3

    While vacationing in Thailand I saw a ton of these. I have a 2018 Tacoma and I don't like the body lines of the Hilux it looks too soft but the facelift is way better than the previous Hilux. I wish we had that powertrain option for the Tacoma. Also saw a ton of Rangers and Ranger Raptors in Thailand those things look cool.

    • @ronaldsmith5375
      @ronaldsmith5375 4 года назад +1

      522SDHV - there is a 2018 diesel Tacoma for sale on Autotrader. It has the very rare Toyota diesel drivetrain available in the US.

    • @RecBuddha
      @RecBuddha 4 года назад +1

      @@ronaldsmith5375 Why are you pimping this in multiple comments? It isn't a factory truck, it is a swap. There are a couple companies that swap in the D4D on Tacomas, and it costs $20K+ to do it. Not at all comparable to a factory truck and huge cost increase (close to doubling the price, depending on what options on your Tacoma that you start with).

    • @ronaldsmith2301
      @ronaldsmith2301 4 года назад

      @@RecBuddha - I saw a few folks that appeared to think it was not possible to get a Toyota Diesel in the U.S. and only wanted to share that it is. I currently own a 2001 Toyota 4-Runner that is a conversion with a similar drivetrain, 1KD-FTV engine with the 6-speed, and it has been spectacular (dieseltoys.com/gallery-2/2001-4runner-d4d). Mine is legally registered in Fulton County Georgia which is basically downtown Atlanta. You are correct that there is not a price equivalency with a factory vehicle, but the quality of my installation is so good that Toyota mechanics can't believe it did not come from the factory. I would say though, beyond the price difference, the lack of a factory warranty is the other big pill to swallow which goes to your point- it is not equivalent with a factory vehicle. Mine is an older conversion and thus more appealing as the warranty had already expired.

  • @jacoe33333
    @jacoe33333 4 года назад +10

    Yes the engine. That is what it is all about.

  • @lambertsaldi1550
    @lambertsaldi1550 4 года назад +2

    Keep up the Great work guys thank you. The Vermonter

  • @xoladinhoaltice9122
    @xoladinhoaltice9122 3 года назад

    I have been in so many car community's I have to admit that Toyota lovers are so positive and supportive and that has been my observation.

  • @julianv7611
    @julianv7611 4 года назад +10

    I live in Costa Rica, here we have both: Tacoma and Hilux
    Pros of the Hilux vs tacoma:
    - Better mileage (Because of its diesel engine, up to 30mpg on highway)
    - More torque than Tacoma (Therefore more towing and load capacity)
    - Dual glove box and the upper box can keep cool to storage beverages.
    Disadvantages of Hilux vs tacoma:
    - Less HP so is slower
    - No sunroof or wireless charger
    - No heated seats

    • @AIDAHAR210
      @AIDAHAR210 4 года назад +3

      No heated seats or sunroof is a selling point making it a true pickup ute/truck and also means less stuff to break, I would get the Hilux just for that reason on top of the Toyota's bulletproof diesel paired to a 6 speed manual. It would be the perfect truck/ute

    • @betaz1000
      @betaz1000 4 года назад +1

      You live in Peru.. you doesn't need heat seat like winter area does

    • @malandvulamachawe6323
      @malandvulamachawe6323 4 года назад +2

      Sunroof in a truck?

    • @210SAi
      @210SAi 4 года назад +2

      If you need sunroof and heated seats you probably don’t really need a truck

  • @buzzpedrotti5401
    @buzzpedrotti5401 4 года назад +17

    Nice review. Fewer differences than I thought.
    Is the Browning .30 Cal MG mount in the bed a factory option or installed by the dealer?

    • @AlvinoHorn
      @AlvinoHorn 4 года назад

      Lol no, by the people who are normally terrorists

    • @AlaskanFrontier1
      @AlaskanFrontier1 4 года назад +2

      Definitely a dealer special. Tho, it's worth it.

    • @unclejoe6811
      @unclejoe6811 4 года назад +1

      .50 BMG not .30

  • @Lando-kx6so
    @Lando-kx6so 3 года назад +2

    These are extremely popular in Jamaica and we also get alot of Thai market imports with the higher trim Revo & Rocco

  • @THK619
    @THK619 4 года назад +3

    When I was working overseas my company car was the Toyota Hilux. I loved it so much i started looking into what it would take to import one.

    • @alexisduarte8820
      @alexisduarte8820 4 года назад +1

      Soooo..... can you import one???

    • @210SAi
      @210SAi 4 года назад

      Alexis Duarte if you’re willing to pay the import tax/tariffs

  • @bodystomp5302
    @bodystomp5302 4 года назад +3

    That's a lot of torque, damn.

  • @kingpin7666
    @kingpin7666 4 года назад +8

    I swear dead switches are there to remind you that there are better versions of your car.

    • @Locotropic
      @Locotropic 3 года назад +1

      No they put those so it'll be easier for you to add mods later if anybody decides to, like more lights, rc radios etc.

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 4 года назад +2

    I am an American living in the Philippines. The truck is sold here as well. Also available with a very nice 6-speed manual. What he said about the backseat is absolutely true. I also dislike the fact that the bed has nothing in it. Not even tiedown hooks. If you get the rear wheel drive truck you only get the 2.4 L engine. Wonderful vehicles, extremely reliable and durable. There's a reason Toyota sells so many of them. Also sold as a cab and chassis model.

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 4 года назад

      @Luis Bolanos better for you

    • @ST-wi9eq
      @ST-wi9eq 4 года назад

      Luis Bolanos I test drove one and didn't like the very slow steering and the overly sensitive throttle response.

  • @MultiPurposeReviewer
    @MultiPurposeReviewer 4 года назад +24

    That engine sound cannot be described as anything other than a purr.

    • @jessaphillips2846
      @jessaphillips2846 4 года назад +2

      MultiPurposeReviewer ehhh I call it a diesel burble

  • @armyca
    @armyca 4 года назад +14

    I love my 2018 Tacoma off road, but I wish to have diesel engine... Gas engine fuel consumption is sucks

    • @dararitchao8367
      @dararitchao8367 4 года назад

      Your cost to operate a gasoline engine is much cheaper than a diesel.
      Right now my diesel motor needs a new egr vale, egr cooler, a new turbo, a dew dpf filter and injector sleeves.
      All told it will cost about 20,000.00 to 24,000.00 US Dollars for the job.
      The price of diesel and DEF fluids combine is more than three times the price of gas.

    • @armyca
      @armyca 4 года назад +3

      @@dararitchao8367 its depends on engine quality and mileage... A lot of my friends from Ukraine and Russia drive old Toyota Land Cruiser 200, with diesel engine... Over 300 000 Km, and nothing wrong with engine...

    • @dararitchao8367
      @dararitchao8367 4 года назад +2

      @@armyca I agree with your assessment. However in order to comply with Federal Regulation in the USA, emission equipment are needed on diesel engine. The problems that Ive experienced is not so much with the engine itself but the emission control equipment such EGR, EGR COOLER, DPF FILTER, AND DEF.
      I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

    • @armyca
      @armyca 4 года назад +1

      @@dararitchao8367 yes, you're right. I didn't think about emission regulations.... In Europe nobody care about environment, unfortunately.

    • @maxwellgraves1668
      @maxwellgraves1668 4 года назад

      A lot of people in the US buy diesel trucks and then remove all the EGR/DEF kits off their trucks to kill the unreliability of these vehicles caused by emissions standards. Makes owning and maintaining one a lot cheaper over the long run.

  • @latinlabel
    @latinlabel 4 года назад +6

    My dad lives in Honduras and owns two Toyota Hilux. I can tell you they are the best 4x4 trucks ever made. Bar none.

    • @unfairsanic5089
      @unfairsanic5089 4 года назад +1

      He can even mod the hilux topgear polar edition style and drive to northpole and back

    • @erickflores01
      @erickflores01 4 года назад

      Latin Label I want to buy one so bad in Honduras! I own a Hyundai bus. Maybe someone will trade? Lol

  • @Indyzato
    @Indyzato 4 года назад +2

    I like the rear seat hooks for drinks. Yes, drink with ice and straw, go in plastic bags. Bed, good for groceries.

  • @Bobbybeb
    @Bobbybeb 4 года назад +1

    That's a nice truck, I'd love to have that spec in the states.

  • @thomaswilliams9844
    @thomaswilliams9844 4 года назад +55

    I will take the American Tacoma with this diesel option motor
    👍🏼
    Perfect
    30mpg !
    What’s the HP / Torque ?

    • @ronaldsmith5375
      @ronaldsmith5375 4 года назад

      Thomas Williams - there is a 2018 diesel Tacoma for sale on Autotrader.

    • @mituljariwala9821
      @mituljariwala9821 4 года назад

      Ronald Smith post the link

    • @gb3639
      @gb3639 4 года назад +4

      Thomas Williams 175 hp 450 nm

    • @ronaldsmith2301
      @ronaldsmith2301 4 года назад +3

      @@mituljariwala9821 - if my conversions are right 170 hp (127KW) and 302 lb/ft torque (410NM) when stock, but the add says the programming has been bumped up a little.

    • @ronaldsmith2301
      @ronaldsmith2301 4 года назад +2

      @@mituljariwala9821 - www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=542505570&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3FfuelTypeGroup%3DDSL%26listingTypes%3DUSED%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceDESC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Dinclude%26endYear%3D2021%26makeCodeList%3DTOYOTA%26isNewSearch%3Dfalse&listingTypes=USED&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2021&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&makeCode1=TOYOTA&modelCode1=TACOMA&clickType=listing

  • @Gustavof.017
    @Gustavof.017 4 года назад +4

    I highly recommend a trip to central or South America to drive one where the driver side is on the left side

    • @chuyitochuyin5894
      @chuyitochuyin5894 4 года назад +2

      Why go so far ? They got them in Mexico too lol

    • @damiangutierrez9103
      @damiangutierrez9103 4 года назад +1

      @@chuyitochuyin5894 you are right my friend. I am Mexican so I seen them down there but the Hillux is not available in diesel. It's so cool how in the dealers their park next to the Tacoma & Tundra.

  • @Jeff-za
    @Jeff-za 4 года назад +1

    Interesting seeing the difference in Hilux around the world. Here in South Africa we get the same 2.4 and 2.8 in GD6 format, Legend 50 and GR Edition. Which none of them have air con vents in the rear, they have a simple old style Key, although the GR and Legend 50 have push start. They dont have electric seats although im unsure if the GR and Legend 50 have. BUT we get the fortuner as you get in many other parts of the world, and the Fortuner has all the luxuries that the Hilux doesnt have. Interesting how they make so many different changes around the world even if they are small changes

  • @kristwalstad3608
    @kristwalstad3608 4 года назад +2

    Awesome job Simon! Thanks for sharing.

    • @ST-wi9eq
      @ST-wi9eq 4 года назад

      Krist Walstad thx, sorry for sounding a bit monotone and slow.

    • @paulallison6689
      @paulallison6689 4 года назад +1

      @@ST-wi9eq No worries man!...& that's a nice lil pickup ya have there!👍

    • @kristwalstad3608
      @kristwalstad3608 4 года назад +2

      ST I didn't think that at all. Thanks again.

    • @jamesbeaman6337
      @jamesbeaman6337 4 года назад

      @@ST-wi9eq Nice G-shock too. Is that a Rangeman?

  • @davidzavala337
    @davidzavala337 4 года назад +9

    Very good review. I live in Mexico and we also have Hilux. Love that it has a diesel. My only complaint is that it looks third world, just like the ranger. In the states they have the 4 cyl Tacoma sr so, I doubt they'll bring it to the states.

    • @malandvulamachawe6323
      @malandvulamachawe6323 4 года назад +4

      How does third world look?

    • @saudabrahams
      @saudabrahams 4 года назад +5

      For us Non Americans, the Hilux and Ranger look better than their American equivalents

    • @davideliah863
      @davideliah863 4 года назад

      WTF Third world?!

  • @DustinB855
    @DustinB855 3 года назад +7

    Honestly feel like it's better designed than the Tacoma lol

  • @NN-pr8ru
    @NN-pr8ru 4 года назад

    FINALLY this kind of videos

  • @aaguzman20
    @aaguzman20 4 года назад +1

    Had a 2015 3.0 DID 4x4 with 45,000km and at 100,000km the engine started to loose compression, injectors a power loss until at 125,000km was forced to invest a bunch of money to try to restore the lost performance and get rid of the tail pile black smoke.

  • @rob379lqz
    @rob379lqz 4 года назад +6

    The Hilux-Diesel... awesome truck, and would for sure fill a North American niche. I have had a 1993 4-Runner 2.4 gas standard until 2012 and a 1997 4-Runner 3.8 gas auto 2010 until 2016. So doing some math in my head so 25 years total combined. Awesome vehicles. Thanks TFL.

  • @habibullahas-safaasabahsha365
    @habibullahas-safaasabahsha365 4 года назад +3

    Love how an optioned out hilux still has a bunch of blank switches

    • @HDA_III
      @HDA_III 4 года назад

      Blssm __ future proof

    • @dallasmellsop5488
      @dallasmellsop5488 3 года назад

      In new Zealand there's still way more higher spec ones, sr5 cruiser, rouge, ruggedx, mako

  • @DinKnight
    @DinKnight 4 года назад +1

    Shout out from a fellow Malaysian viewer!

  • @tonyrose5850
    @tonyrose5850 4 года назад

    In NZ/AUS we tend to like our trucks stock so we can mod them to our needs aus do some insane back canopy set ups and mods.

  • @weroliera
    @weroliera 4 года назад +6

    So sad. That is one of my dream vehicles. Sadly I can never one one in Chicago 😭😭

  • @rentalproperties8598
    @rentalproperties8598 4 года назад +4

    I wish Simon would have told us what the payload capacity and towing ratings are.

  • @chopstx4u207
    @chopstx4u207 3 года назад

    That’s really nice, wish Toyota had a midsized diesel in the states. I see it has a fuel door locking latch. Tacoma needs that also.

  • @johanlabuschagne377
    @johanlabuschagne377 4 года назад

    In South Africa, the Hilix has been the best selling vehicle for some years now. They are not the most comfartable or strongest or quickest double-cab but they are by far the most reliable

  • @mercedes01100
    @mercedes01100 4 года назад +3

    I would love that Engine in my 2019 Tacoma it is a shame we can,t get the Diesel here.

    • @jidshazrodinmamaluba4228
      @jidshazrodinmamaluba4228 4 года назад +1

      I would love that Tacoma design on my 2020 hilux it's a shame we also can't get the aggressive looking design here :

  • @monsterfox_072
    @monsterfox_072 4 года назад +3

    First and finally you guys kinda lined up with the Ford ranger raptor... Anyways exelent work

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 4 года назад

      Zach Chan - the overseas (not available in US) Ranger Raptor has the new 2.0L 2TD-I4. The only US app so far for the engine is the '20 refaced Transit Van, in which replaced the TD-3.2L I5 used in overseas Ranger levels, like the Wildtrak. Recent US-spec Rangers have never been spec'd with a TD, just a gas / petrol turbo.

  • @summersj2004
    @summersj2004 3 года назад

    Where did you get the new infotainment head unit from? Also what’s the product code? Thank you.

  • @DanielLimbirdman
    @DanielLimbirdman 2 месяца назад

    I had gen 3 Tacoma when i was in USA and now driving a gen 8 Hilux in Malaysia but i got to say, the new 2024 tacoma trd pro is the bomb! and you get more mod and aftermarket parts in US

  • @ILoveArianaSooMuch
    @ILoveArianaSooMuch 4 года назад +3

    It will be have a second face lift next month and it looks even more attractive.

    • @ST-wi9eq
      @ST-wi9eq 4 года назад

      Nont55 the facelift coming up soon will be the third. Toyota product planners didn't expect the T6 Ford Ranger to take so much market share when they designed this gen Hilux back in 2013/2014, so now they are scrambling to make it look tougher.

  • @Mr.Highway
    @Mr.Highway 4 года назад +8

    I would buy one tomorrow, if I could get a diesel...
    Toyota is really missing out in the US market..😞
    Also like that you can get a factory dash cam.

    • @dochollywood1921
      @dochollywood1921 4 года назад +2

      Too many regulations here in the US courtesy of uncle sam. Though I'm sure Toyota would be able to engineer a reliable egr/def system.

    • @AkioWasRight
      @AkioWasRight 4 года назад +3

      @@dochollywood1921 Actually, the Hilux has a lot off emissions systems problems. Recalls, EGR problems, DPF problems, there was even a lawsuit filed for emissions defects.

    • @matthewgaines10
      @matthewgaines10 4 года назад +3

      @@dochollywood1921
      I hear Toyota has emissions durability issues in Australia. Not sure they did a good job with thier systems.
      Regulations don't keep diesel Tacomas from existing. Cheap gas negates the need where in other markets, gas is much more expensive. If there were significant amounts of customers lining up to buy a diesel Tacoma and willing to pay the premium pricing, we would have a diesel Tacoma. We don't like paying extra for diesel cars and trucks so the market shrunk. Chevy will be dropping the diesel Colorado because the take rate is too small.
      Before we had tight diesel emissions restrictions, you could buy diesel Mercedes, BMWs, Audis, and VWs. The take rate was small then too. We had the Chevy Cruze diesel. Again, not enough buyers jumping in.
      Let's not create a narrative that can quickly be mowed down with evidence. Americans don't have diesels because they don't demand them and they won't buy them. I wish it was otherwise and I actually own a diesel so I put my money where my mouth is.

    • @dadbain
      @dadbain 4 года назад

      DEF = diesel exhaust fluid = add blue in Briton and its colonies, except Canada. It's to close to its giant, population only, neighbor.

    • @dochollywood1921
      @dochollywood1921 4 года назад

      @@matthewgaines10 that makes sense. Small take rate and crazy premiums will do that. Didn't know about all the issues with the hilux emissions systems. Sucks that they have to be there as they choke the life out of diesels in general.

  • @gungfuriceboy
    @gungfuriceboy 4 года назад

    Nice 'detailed'...Walk around!! Thank you!!

  • @mavricxx
    @mavricxx 4 года назад

    Awesome video, love the Hilux. First time I saw one was in the Philippines and I got to fldrive these overseas as well. Love the simplicity but don't want to be paying $35k for plane jane truck

  • @bigsmoke279
    @bigsmoke279 4 года назад +3

    Is it possible to import this truck from Canada or Mexico into the US?

  • @billwaterhouse5894
    @billwaterhouse5894 4 года назад +6

    Great adder to the home addition shows guys, love how y'all are finding ways to keep us all entertained and informed during these crazy times. HEY TOYOTA...IF YOU ARE LISTING...I CURRENTLY OWN A 2019 4RUNNER, MY 5TH ONE to date. Put the diesel in them...and add the Hilux to US lineup...I'll sign up today.

    • @Anaswar88
      @Anaswar88 4 года назад +2

      exactly put a diesel in the 4runner! the perfect overlander

    • @Tarantulaflytrap
      @Tarantulaflytrap 4 года назад +1

      Bill Waterhouse Toyota should also have a diesel opinion for Tundra, Sequoia, and Land Cruiser as well here in the US!

    • @billwaterhouse5894
      @billwaterhouse5894 4 года назад

      @@Tarantulaflytrap yes sir, 100% agree

    • @ronaldsmith5375
      @ronaldsmith5375 4 года назад +1

      Bill Waterhouse - I have a 2000 4-Runner with a 3.0L diesel out of a ‘05 HiLux. The 2000 4-Runner was the last year for the manual transmission, and the third Gen is still my favorite vintage. The diesel majorly woke my truck up compared to the gas 3.2L. With the Diesel engine I added a six speed manual transmission (also Toyota). I achieve 28-30 mpg on the highway with this combination and even got 17mpg towing a 1982 Isuzu Pup diesel from New Orleans to Atlanta. 4-Runners are great trucks. I wish you many miles on yours.

    • @billwaterhouse5894
      @billwaterhouse5894 4 года назад

      @@ronaldsmith5375 awesome...hoping one of these days Toyota will offer. Gotta ask, how did you get a hold of that engine?

  • @dfk09
    @dfk09 22 дня назад

    It's a simple practical truck. It's not over stylized and overdone so they can hike up the prices like they do in the states. I would get this in a heartbeat!

  • @MrCreamPye
    @MrCreamPye 3 года назад +2

    What about the major chassis differences between the two? I.e. the Tacoma’s ‘flexy’ c-channel frame vs the Hilux’s solid fully-boxed frame? That’s a biggie for me!! 🙂