Free Speech: Find out what local people in Loughborough think?
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Real Britain with Darren Grimes has been in Loughborough asking local people whether free speech should be curbed online to avoid causing offence.
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What about speaking the truth? That should never be censored ever..
The truth this days is the "" conspiracy ""
Free speech should not be curbed so a bunch of weeping angels can feel good about themselves
Absolutely not. With the possible exception of inciting harm. People do not GIVE offence others TAKE it. Any restriction on free speech stifles proper debate and should be resisted.
Are Israeli hospitals really overloaded with unvaccinated CO VID patients? According to Prof. Yaakov Jerris, director of Ichilov Hospital’s coronavirus ward, the situation is completely opposite.
“Right now, most of our severe cases are vaccinated,” Jerris told Channel 13 News. “They had at least three injections. Between seventy and eighty percent of the serious cases are vaccinated. So, the vaccine has no significance regarding severe illness, which is why just twenty to twenty-five percent of our patients are unv accinated.”
well done John - everyone who listened to your Jab advice are dying / seriously ill
People most definitely can and DO give offence! Stop repeating silly slogans.
@@johnkline1790 Perhaps because those proportions reflect the proportions out there in the population? Israel has the highest vaxx rate of all. The figures in fact suggest a small reduction in serious illness amongst the jabbed, but that is all. Transmission seems to be enhanced rather than reduced.
@@fredneecher1746 you have a choice to be offended regardless of the intentions of the individual who offended you.
The woke and lefty people still have their voices heard online and MSM. If we can't say what we think then what's the point of thinking
Yes because it's not like most tabloid news papers are right wing? GB news is a right wing news channel grow up your snowflake
@@lukesworshipgearreviews8171 You clearly don't watch GB news. They have left wing and right wing presenters and opinions. Grow up and get facts right, snowflake.
@@gitaryddcymraeg8816 It's a right wing news channel.
Blatantly.
@@gitaryddcymraeg8816 Name me 1 left wing presenter they have on. All of them are either socially or fiscally conservative
@@lukesworshipgearreviews8171 Gloria De Piero, Tom Harwood, Darren McCaffrey
No balance required. We can say whatever we want. If you take offence the problem is with you.
How do words directly cause harm? Sticks and stones...
What about racial words
@@kishennandha9127 any words, I'd rather know where I stand with someone verbally and be able to dish it back out. How can anyone challenge a point of view if you've no idea what someone is thinking, if that point of view festers to the point where that person gets physically violent towards someone then what was the point in silencing them? All you've achieved is losing every prior opertunity somebody may have had to challenge their beliefs in order to save somebody's feelings. I'd take verbal abuse over being stabbed by some idiot any day of the week.
@@gadget348 what about racial abuse
@@kishennandha9127 it's the same
@@gadget348 i dont think shuld be called p word or n word
Loughborough is a university town , pointless asking them,
We already know what they will say.
Are Israeli hospitals really overloaded with unvaccinated CO VID patients? According to Prof. Yaakov Jerris, director of Ichilov Hospital’s coronavirus ward, the situation is completely opposite.
“Right now, most of our severe cases are vaccinated,” Jerris told Channel 13 News. “They had at least three injections. Between seventy and eighty percent of the serious cases are vaccinated. So, the vaccine has no significance regarding severe illness, which is why just twenty to twenty-five percent of our patients are unv accinated.”
well done John - everyone who listened to your Jab advice are dying / seriously ill
That’s what I was thinking lol
"I'm in favour of free speech, so long as I agree"
Only 3upvotes?Sarcasm Isn't easy on "paper" 🤔
Hahaha 😝 🤣
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My Propaganda is the Free speech. You don't have the right to say anything. Lo... L
As long as it’s in my favour, “Donald Trump”
When you're not allowed to speak up and state a biological fact like 'Only women have a Cervix' without being shut down, cancelled, or censored, then I think that tells you where we're at with free speech in this country. Telling uncomfortable truth's is not allowed.
Shut up 'prostate haver' I don't think anyone knows what freedom is I'd take the folk who say yes free speech and attach 'but' to Iran, Canada or Scotland for a wee glimpse at where it ends up
"It's about respect", no it's not. You don't set laws that dictate people have to be respectful, that's beyond stupid.
People are so lost in their attempts to be compassionate that they fail to see the most basic truths and how important it is to protect speaking the truth.
Nobody here mentioned the truth or lies, nobody.
They keep speaking about "harm to others", being held "accountable", if you asked these people what any of those words mean they won't have an answer.
IKR, that woman struggling to say something that would make her look good on social media🙄
Just look at comments about Camilla and you see there's always a huge disparity that caused harm and social unrest and degradation of respect towards a marriage. Medias fishing for it most of the time thru theatrical subjects..
With to those interviewed,proves just how soft the UK public have become,free speech is a God given right.
You mean brainwashed. Just look what they say.
Speech does not cause 'harm', and violence is a purely physical thing, there is no crossover between speech and violence, they are entirely distinct.
As for inciting violence, well, sure, it's not a nice thing to do but words do not force people to commit acts of violence, people do that of their own accord.
Allow free speech of any kind and prosecute physical violence of any kind, it's really very simple.
I completely agree Chris!
The one area where I disagree with you is doxing.
That in itself isn't causing violence, but is an invasion of privacy and certainly could lead to real world violence.
No. Absolutely not. Our thoughts on free speech differ but free speech is free speech. If peoes speech affects others they are able to reciprocate thru law. If you put limits on free speech then you impose censorship. censhorship as we all know is not good for anyone except tyrants. Have we not learned anything over the last 2+ years
Could you really not find anyone who has a clue about what freedom of speech is ? One girl thinks you can actually harm someone with an opinion 🤯. And it really is black and white, as long as you are not directly fretting someone with harm then any speech is fine, even if you don't agree with it 🤦♂️
Trolling some one and abusing them is different from free speech. Every one should have the right to say what they like if you take offence unfriend them or switch off.
@s no one is obliged to use respectful language. Respect is earned, not demanded. If your mental health can't handle disagreements on social media, get off the Internet.
If people are held accountable for saying what they believe doesn’t that stifle free speech I would rather people grew up and realised that words are words if your letting them hurt you then there’s something wrong with you not what’s been said
Free speech is exactly as it reads, no one has the right to arbitrate on what can or cannot be said, it is that simple. Abhorrent speech finds no audience if spoken aloud. Abhorrent speech that is censored will find an audience and grow in popularity.
So many of them saying "if it causes harm" but none of them can define it. Typical nebulous subjective rubbish.
Because they are brainwashed
Advocating actual violence against individuals or a group of people is a no but the problem is that we have a 2 tiered system whereby it's overlooked when certain individuals and groups target a certain race or gender group e.g white straight men - all threats and abuse is wrong. So let's sort out everyone being held equally accountable first and the rest will sort itself out.
laws cover that anyway - any other laws are designed to shut you up and demolish self esteem - you could see these feckers interviewed - no one had the balls to say - ffs free speech is free speech - words are not a crime
@@johnkline1790 yes I agree but the point is that unequal enforcement is the problem as it selective punishment and selective abuse is "ok" on social media and that is wrong. As you'd know Common Law is based on everyone is equal in the eyes of the Law & no one is above the Law. Since we have moved away from Law based on true equality and is based on protection of certain groups, all these problems have been created as that is not true equality.
With the exception of incitement to commit violence or crime and slander speech should be completely free.
Es ist zum Kotzen wie man diesen Leuten beim herum Eiern um den heißen Brei zuhören muss aber es ist "ihr" Verständnis von freier Meinungsäußerung
Couldn’t have put it better myself!
People don't have the right not to be offended.
How do we know who is bad when we can't hear what there saying ?
People don’t understand the concept do they. “As long as nobody is upset by what someone says then it’s ok” free speech isn’t about hearing the things you want to hear.
My there's alot of sheeple there, if speach is restricted it isn't bloody free, get a bloody backbone 😒
Free speech shouldn't be curbed and banned from social media.
free speech should have consequences - hmmm - surely that is not free speech - the trouble is - the cnuts who decide what is offensive - are not the sort of people who should judge anyone
Free speech can have consequences, it always has.
I can't expect to say something derogatory to someone's wife and not expect a punch from her fella.
Free speech is not negotiatable. Free means free
There should be NO LIMITS to freedom of speech!!!
I'm pro free speech, fuck yeah!
Free speech is free speech for goodness sake. People need to get a grip and stop taking offence.
Threats of violence should not be allowed, but for all else........who is going to judge ? We certainly do not want state censorship.
Being offended is a choice and not a crime by the person saying something.
Not free speach is its censored speech.
Hence, I don't agree with what you say.
But I defend your right to say it.
That's free speech,
You must be able to offend people
Don't weaponise speech
That's the way of communism
"Where to draw the line" has long been decided. You can't incite a crime and you can't divulge information that is damaging to national security. Also, there are libel laws (much in need of financial reform) to enable responses to personal damage - and there is also free speech for the same purpose. I suppose there may be some scope for forbidding certain swear words in the interests of good taste, but that's as far as I'll go (if pushed). These people waffle a lot and don't seem to have thought much about it, which is a sad indictment of our awareness of our civil rights (and responsibilities).
All these people seem to be mistaking online bullying and having an opinion, this is extremely dangerous as it is how these stupid laws are passed in the first place. You do not give offence, offence is taken NOT given and free speech is possibly the most important topic at the present time and IMHO should never be restricted under any circumstances. Bullying is a totally different topic.
Say what you like. I don’t care
Free speech should be free for everyone no ifs or buts.
I don't blame our idiot public. British people aren't told about free speech for a reason.
People just need to understand that offense is taken not given, it's a choice, just to many snowflakes I'm afraid, weak individuals that have nothing about them.
Everyones is in favour of freedom of speech..but...!
Everyone should be able to say whatever they like, whenever they like, wherever they like.
You know with 100% certainty that once there is a block on what can be said it will be go completely out of control. Before you know it you won't be able to say anything.
Mustn't grumbleism. Why we all got locked down, and why the government know they can do it again.
you can't have your cake and eat it to you either have free speech or you don't.
You can have any ideology you like as long as it agrees with mine.
Just like you can have any colour model T ford as long as its black.
How about we all grow a back bone and grow up
All with the Truckers!!!!!And everyone around the world fighting and raising their voices against this Tyranny!!!!
Loughborough. The town where the scandal of locked park gates made the front page of the Echo 😆
in an ideal world we all have our own opinion we are not robots and should not be told what to say and not what to say this is not an ideal world
So no-one can be corrected or learn anything? This is a stupid idea and this comment harms their stupidity.
Free speech means i can call johnson a tommy tanker, he"s been called a lot worse than that i am sure ! However there is a line which should never be crossed, ie physical harm threats or worse !
If people dont get used to certain things then they just become more and more sensitive. Its like saying you dont like getting tired so thats why you dont exercise and therefore become weak.
You can't live in a SOCIETY and expect everyone to have the same opinion and you can't live in a prison of your own mind worrying how people will weaponise your thoughts against you.
The best way to see as many ways as possible and you dont do that by only showing 1 way, then it essentially causes people to only see it one way and other ways are looked down upon.
Its simply the way memory works, if you teach everyone to believe something then anyone who doesnt is predictably targeted. This is the entire point of why we've eventually got to a place of being able to freely speak, its an evolution, to restrict it is just going backwards.
What a load of rubbish what's wrong with diplomacy but say the truth
There are multiple layers of trigger warnings on the show, including from Jimmy himself, if you carry on past that, then it's on you. Imaging being allergic to peanuts, and then on a flight the steward/ess gives you a packet of peanuts and you eat them. Same thing. Frankie boyle as said far worse things, even about the Queen! "Comedy is the last bastion of free speech" - Bill Hicks.
Free speech used to be self policing, could you call the biggest lad in the pub a tosser? Yes. Would you? Nope.
Loaded question....
Leave free speech alone. It’s physical violence which needs sorting. Punishments are pathetic.
If you don't like what people are saying don't listen to them don't watch their programme on tv or RUclips etc.I know people like being offended by things (remember Mary Whitehouse)? I think free speach is very important and shouldn't be censored (like Dr Campbell by the bbc and MSM).I think if we get heavy censorship then we will never be allowed to criticise anyone or anything.
Nurse Campbell should be censored for his pushing masks,the jabs and the fake case numbers (by a fraudulent PCR test),
The man's a complete bloody menace in preying on the gullible hypochondriacs.
You seem pretty silent on the proper scientists and doctors who got thrown off YT.
You know,the ones that didn't follow the government narrative and push the jab.
@@davidbarlow350 I agree, funny how nursie Campbell has changed his narrative
I think if you'd been actually attacked you might see the difference between someone hurting your feelings or stabbing you 🤔
Free speech is very important without it alot of cover up lies we would not know also who is anyone to tell a person to agree or not too much control on people way of life.. It OK for the other side to continue covered up and lie noone talks about that
Who's "we"? The government? If so, absolutely not. It is a matter for private platforms, and a matter for consumers of platforms to take it up with those companies. If they cannot get satisfaction then leave the platform. Other platforms in the marketplace will create what the market most demands.
The government's only moral role is through the police and broader security services when free speech can be demonstrated to be seen as a threat to life and/or private property.
Most people simply do not grasp what underlies free speech, and I see them retreat to protectionism. Such attitudes will be their own demise.
If the private platforms Were Not controlled by the CIA that would be good. They are not so private.
@@rogerburn5132 I already said no to government. But you've basically said "If the private platforms Were Not controlled by the government that would be good. They are not so private." - You just named a particular department.
But people say "we" meaning force by law as a solution.
If you took government out of economics then no department would have access to private business, so I assume you would vote for any party that advocated that position should one emerge.
@@Avidcomp the problem is you can't take the government out of economics somebody needs to make the tax low. Spending. on schools. and other programs. But lately has become about control and promotion of different Agenda by the government and they have Censored anyone who disagree with their agenda. For the control you just have to look many of Edward Snowden. Conversations he explained how deep CIA and all. security services are in everything. So government Big corporates security services work hand in hand in everything. Makes No difference What political Party you vote for they all surve the same Master.
@@rogerburn5132 Which is why I want government out of economics.
Can't believe you think we need government for schools!
@@Avidcomp Maybe I expressed myself Wrong. I do agree that we should take the Government out of economics and out of everything if you ask me But the population needs some form of Lidership. Maybe Not politishans. Why because first any country need to defend itself So that country needs military. Second Somebody needs to make the rules ( about crime about business. Emigration. and so on) So somebody needs to organise the society. No country can allow for people. Everybody to do whatever they Like.
Remember when if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say anything. Times have changed just use ya loaf!
Everyone should be allowed to express their opinions ( regardless of how extravagant they are). But what I have noticed that many people confuse lack of manners with free speech and I see this as a big problem, to be honest.
Its your >>>>>right
You win 4000000 social points.
Trouble is, who decides what is ok and what is not. Our right to a free life and to choose what risk we wanted to take was taken away with the bug. It is the same with free speech. People are perfectly able to listen and assess and maybe respond if they dont agree.
The issue is who will be the controller of what is offensive or not.
Maybe we should be looking to reducing the cost of legal action to enable people who feel they have been affected by "free speech" and let a judge decide. At present only the wealthy can afford the luxury of speaking/defending free speech.
You should be able to say anything,if it upsets someone,so what!. Everyone should be able to say that what has happened to this country in the last 50 year's is the worst period of our history.And you should be allowed to say how you would like it fixed.And if it upsets the sensitive,good get a life.
As they say nothing is free and I mean nothing you’re being told to keep your mouth shut and speak when you’re spoken to and say what we want you to say God help us
Where the hell did they find the people who were asked. Pure garbage. It's about being controlled about what you can say. You conform too what certain sections of society think or you keep quiet. What is the matter with the people of this country that they can't see what is happening around them 🤔
FFS… WORDS DONT HURT U THEYRE NOT FISTS!!! 🙄🙄
whats the point in having free speech if its policed. It either exists or it doesnt. The great thing is you can tune out, block people or just not engage
NO NO NO AND NO
What about encouraging people to have a thicker skin and developing their own "fcuk off" response
Note that the laws preventing damaging harm to people, are already in place and transfer equally to online.
Fcbk could shut down its "dark web" for example if they really wanted to prevent the worst things.
Why the question mark in the video title?
Think we now say Freedom Of Speech is The Brain Wash we Love!!
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Is it FREEDOM Of SPEECH or brain Wash!?!
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PS...when dose Freedom of Speech turn in too Brain Wash as ALL Propaganda IS FREEDOM of SPEECH!?!
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PS...PS...and is Not a Opinion something one my have learned to EARN That OPINION??
we learn through other!!
Everything said before the word but….
Accountable, how?
Everybody is entitled to my opinion🤪
Speech is sound
In order to becfree
Everyone should say anything at any time on any subject ,but they must stand or fall on the content ,we have courts to hold people responsible and it is not for the public to hold people accountable by cancelling them ,truth is relative to the viewers position ,and conflicting opinions do not make one person right and another wrong,both may be right ,both wrong ,according to the position of view
Think harder people... definition is important in law! There are probably some things people agree are really bad, "harmful"... so DEFINE them specifically!
Otherwise we are relying on a "benevolent" authority to judge "what's good for us"!
Interesting the choice of the word "harms" in the online harms bill.
One example might be scientific knowledge which is first denied, hated, ridiculed and called dangerous... then becomes widely acknowledged as really helpful fact.
Might authority keep these from us " for our benefit", to prevent harm?
WHO should decide?
Don't outsource your sensemaking.
What is a point of having a free speech. As long as we respect each other’s opinion.
Why should I respect an opinion that's wrong?
@@eddiedevereoxford4995 Who made you the arbiter of “truth?” Who fact checks the fact-checkers. Have you walked a mile in the shoes of the person opinion that you have chosen to disagree with? When is settled science, settled science?
Its just a total lack of common courtesy and respect. If you put anything on Twitter ( the biggest culprit ) you can be sure of plenty of replies most of them will contain 4 letter words and hateful wording from people that disagree with your view.
@@ancietman And you can block, ignore and move on, it isn't hard!
@@eddiedevereoxford4995 opinions are just that, someone’s opinion. Truth however is a different thing….
If you want to regulate speech don't call it free speech, the main problem is how you have chosen to advertise it, some people would choose to eat all the free samples simply because that's what was advertised same with all you can eat, freedom, liberty and all the other delusional singular words or singular meaning phrases or quotes which people abuse because they by their isolated meaning have no regulation, you do this to yourselves always coming back to table of debate over this, you need to stop this behaviour immediately and accept practical regulation, the only reason speech would need to be unsystematically free would be so truth can formulate outside of the system If that system needs to be questioned beyond what it's aware of, it has no use for unproductive criminal behaviour, that kind of action though would or could be seen as criminal until clarity has conquered, those who wish to speak freely for no productive reason have no realistic voice in or outside any system.
We have slander and libel laws. Make people use their real name and their address available to the authorities online. Censorship is giving control to anybody who wants to exercise that control..
Why would you want to force people to give up their right to privacy to retain their right to freedom of speech?