If ASUS are sending you stuff, ask for the rog flow x13 and test the pen! Wanted to see that for a year! The upgraded version will be out this year along with the z13, I’d love to see if it’s good for art/design.
For an artist, the rog z13 has a far inferior display. I really hope Asus will make a lovechild between the slate and the z13. The slate is almost perfect as it is if it only had a CPU and RAM that would match the rest of its otherwise excellent hardware, mainly the excellent display.
Hi Teoh, nice video as always, especially in regards of how you review it, not many reviews out there that speak about how they perform for drawing. I'd like to ask regarding replacement tips, as we know they're pretty easy to get for Wacom(or other drawing tablet manufacturers) and Apple, how is it for other devices coming from Android (I reckon Samsung will sell their replacement tips) and Windows devices?
Not too sure about replacement tips for the ASUS pen though. Replacement tips are usually easier to find for pens that last more than one generation and used by more than one device, such as pens from Apple, Samsung and Microsoft.
Thank you for the video. It's most useful for CG artists. Can you show the work in Infinite painter, please? Seems like it could be installed with a Windows 11 Bridge, isn't it?
Hey! I'll try to keep this short: - Do you have any thoughts on the new Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra? - Are you planning on testing it soon in the future? - Would buying an iPad be a better choice than Tab S8 Ultra? Anyways, thank you for all the great content! I've been watching your videos on the other channel, and just found out that you have a channel for digital stuff too! :)
I've ordered the Tab S8 Ultra. Review may be out late Feb or early March. It's certainly a pricey tablet. Whether it's worth the money really depends on what you do. The main advantage of iPad is the huge variety of drawing and graphic design apps available, e.g. Affinity Photo, Photoshop. If you look at all the random thumbnails you see on RUclips, to create those thumbnails with Android is very difficult because of the lack of good graphic design apps. That's the main downside. So if you need graphic design apps, go with iPad. Other than that, for drawing, there's Clip Studio Paint on Android. For photo editing there's Adobe Lightroom. And soon for video editing there's LumaFusion. The Samsung also has better file management system, micro SD card slot, external monitor support, desktop mode, pen is included not sold separately
Could you maybe do a short video detailing the game performance of the device? Maybe boot up Minecraft Java or something most people could compare with. I am looking for something that can both do the art and run smaller games decently, no need for it to do both at once.
How much RAM is in this review machine? If only 4GB, that may explain the poor multitasking experience. This machine also comes with 8GB ram, which would improve the multitasking.
I'm scratching my head wondering who this laptop is for? It doesn't serve any serious artist. The pen, admittedly, is not as bad as others out there now, which is a plus. I would think it better if they'd not wasted time on a pen and concentrated on its other features. It comes off feeling like an unbalanced lopsided convertible. Maybe they should have leaned all the way in one direction with this thing, rather than try to be 2 things.
Hello. I found this tablet and was thinking to buy it for doing comics and illustration, but now this review is making me rethink about it, since I want it for professional work. If this one is not efficient enough, whould you please recommend me one that actually works? I honestly liked this one because, as far as I understood from description on site and reviews, since it comes with Windows, you can use your normal PC programs (I use Paint Tool SAI) rather than apps, which was a big key point for me, the other one is that it has the pen and it resembles a normal pencil, instead of those round-rubber tips. I would appreciate the help a lot, since it will mean a huge investment for me, so I want something that actually provides a good quality in matters of work and mobility. Thank you!
If it's just drawing, consider iPad or Samsung Tab S series tablet with included S Pen. For versatility, a Windows tablet like the Surface Pro 8 or 9 may be better. Apple and Samsung still has better pen performance than Microsoft.
Was looking at this instead of a i3 Surface Go 3, but the CPU looked too weak for what I want. Also 600usd is the base version and the price for the upper tiers wasn't worth it to me with that chip. I just learned of the Surface Pro 7+ with the 11th gen i-series and the prices look far better than the other 2. Comes with a keyboard, but the pen is separate so I could get one that uses AAAA batteries instead.
Brother quick question, I am planning to buy this purely for office works, web browsing, and entertainment (no games). It won't be for photoshoping or any other type of photo editing. Would it be a concern?
@@teohontech7141 hi again would you suggest buying the 4 gb 128 gb emmc version ? It is 300$ on amazon rn. I’ll mostly use it on notetaking using ms office and watching netflix and stuff. The oled screen really tempted me but there were so many negative comments. Should I just stick to iPad 9th generation for 250 bucks ?
It can do the job, but the specification isn't that good for the price. For your use case, you can get iPad or Samsung Galaxy tablets with S Pens. I probably recommend Samsung more if you're not into drawing and graphic design. It is important to note that Microsoft mobile apps are not full featured as desktop Microsoft apps.
The conclusion at the end says it all just get a Android or iOS tablet if you actually wanna enjoy drawing if you wanna just play around “drawing “ then a windows one is for you
@@himanshugiri4898 Most Windows tablets are expensive so there's no mid-range unless you're looking at older models. Unless you really need Windows, getting Android tablets would be cheaper and the best budget tablet currently is Xiaomi Pad 5 with Xiaomi Smart Pen.
@@teohontech7141 is mi pad 5 is good for taking notes .....i am also getting ipad 8the gen with apple pencil 1 (used) at same price in which mi pad 5 without stylus... I also checout asus duo base variant ..is it good for note-taking
Very neat device, ai use MS teams and outlook like always apart from browserf. I don't think they will let it live. Sigh !! Should have been a better processor
It's 2023 and Intel is still trying to trick customers to pay for a 20 yo CPU, the Pentium processor was launched on 1993, I mean bringing Pentium back from the dead, and it doesn't help when Windows 10 still gives you the Application Not Responding!! error.
oof 100% cpu even on tasks this light? holy hell am i glad my tablet is just a cheap android one and i went for a (in comparison) massively powerful laptop with a ryzen 7 instead. almost fell for the surface go the microsoft version of this but i am really glad i dodged this bombhole
Window's tablets, for me, have always been a poor choice for artists, and this machine highlights some of the problems; they are either underpowered or too expensive, and aligned to the poor tablet user experience compared to Android and iOS with respect to quality and apps. When investing in a tablet for 3-5 years of useage something with this performance is frustrating now and in a year or two will be even worse. Get an Android or iOS tablet as something ike this Vivobook is not meant for anything intensive, so using Android/iOS will not be an issue for apps.
Second to this. It is better to get something like Tab S7 FE WiFi 128|6 (when it's on sale ofc) than something as expensive and underpowered as 13 Slate I hope that in 5 years Windows on ARM will get better, only then windows tablets would be good investment
Have you looked at the Surface Pro 7+ line, you can get a 11th gen i3 with keyboard for about 600usd? Might not be bundled with a pen but you can buy one of you liking.
Apparently Surface Pro 8 (latest) is quite good, and the pen is finally good (actually as its response in the tablet), while some of the previous versions had been horrid. I'd rather have a full real OS (vs Android or IOS), with a solid file system, and with full compatibility with my work apps. I understand the "on the go solution" to allow me at least some basic editing of my ongoing projects, or to be able to do some light tasks of said projects. Obviously leaving the heavy work for the desktop. But I'd agree getting a S7 FE is a smart move. Mostly due to the 12 inches screen. To me real state space to draw is more important than many other factors. The thing is with a Windows tablet you get a ton of compatibility with professional software. For me that'd be a requirement more than nice thing to have. I'd double check though that the tablet can be color calibrated (it seems he could not calibrate this one...but maybe there's some trick to make it possible, and there are software-only (DisplayCal) calibrators in Windows, as a very poor fallback, but it's something). I calibrate all my monitors, I think it's essential. For all I know, you can't really calibrate a Samsung, not even the pro one (about that one...at that price I'd go for an iPad Pro M1). And, to my surprise, neither hardware calibrate an iPad Pro. Yep, colors are pretty neat by default (but not perfect!), but yet so, calibration is important. I can't see it worth it though to put more than 500-600 bucks to illustrate "on the go". That's why despite all the remarkable problems, I'd go for a S7 FE, an iPad standard of this year (379$) but with an Apple Pencil 1st generation, as is compatible, and would look at a Surface Go 3, but Brad says he finds it kindda slow... The S7 FE, despite a worse screen and kind of weak CPU (yet generous in RAM) can be a good solution on the go for sketching. Another option is a second hand iPad Pro. One of the first ones to have Apple Pencil 2.0 might be a neat solution (also in cost). And I mean the 12.9 inches ones.
If ASUS are sending you stuff, ask for the rog flow x13 and test the pen! Wanted to see that for a year! The upgraded version will be out this year along with the z13, I’d love to see if it’s good for art/design.
Will see if they are a review unit. But if it’s Windows and stylus, my guess is the drawing performance is not going to be best
I wonder if Z13 would even support stylus, given it is meant for gaming. It is not said in the official specification.
@@teohontech7141 please review it
@@sultanaldavi3048 The Asus Z13 review is up ruclips.net/video/90Edg3K4bos/видео.html
For an artist, the rog z13 has a far inferior display.
I really hope Asus will make a lovechild between the slate and the z13. The slate is almost perfect as it is if it only had a CPU and RAM that would match the rest of its otherwise excellent hardware, mainly the excellent display.
Absolute chad for putting out well thought out videos every time
Saludos desde Lima, Perú; muchas gracias por ese excelente análisis desde la perspectiva de uso de un artista, un abrazo.
Hi Teoh, nice video as always, especially in regards of how you review it, not many reviews out there that speak about how they perform for drawing. I'd like to ask regarding replacement tips, as we know they're pretty easy to get for Wacom(or other drawing tablet manufacturers) and Apple, how is it for other devices coming from Android (I reckon Samsung will sell their replacement tips) and Windows devices?
Not too sure about replacement tips for the ASUS pen though. Replacement tips are usually easier to find for pens that last more than one generation and used by more than one device, such as pens from Apple, Samsung and Microsoft.
@@teohontech7141 I see, thank you for the answer Teoh
Nice honest review. Could you test the ROG Flow Z13 for drawing?
Thank you for the video. It's most useful for CG artists. Can you show the work in Infinite painter, please? Seems like it could be installed with a Windows 11 Bridge, isn't it?
Hey! I'll try to keep this short:
- Do you have any thoughts on the new Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra?
- Are you planning on testing it soon in the future?
- Would buying an iPad be a better choice than Tab S8 Ultra?
Anyways, thank you for all the great content! I've been watching your videos on the other channel, and just found out that you have a channel for digital stuff too! :)
I've ordered the Tab S8 Ultra. Review may be out late Feb or early March.
It's certainly a pricey tablet. Whether it's worth the money really depends on what you do.
The main advantage of iPad is the huge variety of drawing and graphic design apps available, e.g. Affinity Photo, Photoshop. If you look at all the random thumbnails you see on RUclips, to create those thumbnails with Android is very difficult because of the lack of good graphic design apps. That's the main downside. So if you need graphic design apps, go with iPad.
Other than that, for drawing, there's Clip Studio Paint on Android. For photo editing there's Adobe Lightroom. And soon for video editing there's LumaFusion.
The Samsung also has better file management system, micro SD card slot, external monitor support, desktop mode, pen is included not sold separately
@@teohyc Thanks for the answer! I'm pre-ordering the Tab S8 Ultra too!
@@cwtch1881 Let me ask you if you could give me an idea to buy this Asus vs Tab8 Ultra? Which one should I buy ?
This is a great content...
You are doing a great job Bro.
Thank you 👍🏻
Could you maybe do a short video detailing the game performance of the device? Maybe boot up Minecraft Java or something most people could compare with. I am looking for something that can both do the art and run smaller games decently, no need for it to do both at once.
People that buy a low powered chip like this …. Wouldn’t open a bunch of apps and tabs, but thanks for showing the limitations
I have recently tested a budget tablet that is one third the price and it runs lag-free
very good review
Did you receive the stylus pen in the original packaging or did you order it separately?
Good review, thanks
Ugh. The jitter bothers me, but I love absolutely everything else about this tablet. Dangit.
Can the pen be used for the ASUS Vivobook Flip 14?
Hi, of the 4 tips that come with the pen, is anyone of them soft? I am looking for a pen tip that has the soft feel similar to the Samsung S Pen
Hi, did you set the power management to balanced or performance? I've heard that the default setting is on battery saver.
Default is battery saver
Between this and lenovo duet 5i, which one is better? 😢
How much RAM is in this review machine? If only 4GB, that may explain the poor multitasking experience. This machine also comes with 8GB ram, which would improve the multitasking.
It's 8GB. It's slow because the processor is slow
I'm scratching my head wondering who this laptop is for? It doesn't serve any serious artist. The pen, admittedly, is not as bad as others out there now, which is a plus. I would think it better if they'd not wasted time on a pen and concentrated on its other features. It comes off feeling like an unbalanced lopsided convertible. Maybe they should have leaned all the way in one direction with this thing, rather than try to be 2 things.
It’s mostly for watching videos
Hello.
I found this tablet and was thinking to buy it for doing comics and illustration, but now this review is making me rethink about it, since I want it for professional work.
If this one is not efficient enough, whould you please recommend me one that actually works?
I honestly liked this one because, as far as I understood from description on site and reviews, since it comes with Windows, you can use your normal PC programs (I use Paint Tool SAI) rather than apps, which was a big key point for me, the other one is that it has the pen and it resembles a normal pencil, instead of those round-rubber tips.
I would appreciate the help a lot, since it will mean a huge investment for me, so I want something that actually provides a good quality in matters of work and mobility.
Thank you!
If it's just drawing, consider iPad or Samsung Tab S series tablet with included S Pen.
For versatility, a Windows tablet like the Surface Pro 8 or 9 may be better. Apple and Samsung still has better pen performance than Microsoft.
@@teohontech7141 thank you! 😊
I will go check on both to see what fits me more.
so you recommend laptops for graphic designer?
Hello, can you do drawing review on Asus vivobook flip 14?
how does Photoshop perform on it. I am photographer and want to use it for photo retouching. Only one high resolution photo open at a time.
Photoshop will run, but it’s going to lag. Because the system isn’t fast to begin with even without Photoshop.
@@teohontech7141 Thank you.
Was looking at this instead of a i3 Surface Go 3, but the CPU looked too weak for what I want. Also 600usd is the base version and the price for the upper tiers wasn't worth it to me with that chip.
I just learned of the Surface Pro 7+ with the 11th gen i-series and the prices look far better than the other 2. Comes with a keyboard, but the pen is separate so I could get one that uses AAAA batteries instead.
Brother quick question, I am planning to buy this purely for office works, web browsing, and entertainment (no games). It won't be for photoshoping or any other type of photo editing. Would it be a concern?
Go with Samsung instead. Even the less powered Tab S7FE (12.4 inch) will give you smoother performance.
Hi Teoh, may I know where to get the tablet stand like in 15:30?
Is there a link to buy it? Is it suitable for all tablets?
The stand is Parblo PR100. It works for all tablets. www.parkablogs.com/content/review-parblo-pr100-tablet-stand
Are you able put your hand over the screen while using the pen ? As a student this is the most important thing for me
You can
@@teohontech7141 hi again would you suggest buying the 4 gb 128 gb emmc version ? It is 300$ on amazon rn. I’ll mostly use it on notetaking using ms office and watching netflix and stuff. The oled screen really tempted me but there were so many negative comments. Should I just stick to iPad 9th generation for 250 bucks ?
@@Omeruy iPad will provide a smoother, more pleasant experience. OLED isn't a main selling point for me even though it is for many.
maybe using this tablet like a 2nd screen with your principal laptop, can found better😊
Thx
have you try the illustrator adobe?
There will be lag
Is this good enough for digital note taking, watching media, and creating text documents?
Occasional note taking is fine.
May i know the keyboard is still working(signal connected to the screen) in the case the keyboard detached from the screen?
Keyboard needs to be attached to work, otherwise there's no power to the keyboard.
Is this good for me as a university student? I only need to use email, word and web browsing for research.
It can do the job, but the specification isn't that good for the price. For your use case, you can get iPad or Samsung Galaxy tablets with S Pens. I probably recommend Samsung more if you're not into drawing and graphic design. It is important to note that Microsoft mobile apps are not full featured as desktop Microsoft apps.
@@teohontech7141 thanks!
Sir..what kind of software drawing..you used..
Medibang Paint Pro, Affinity Photo
hi, is it better than surface go 3?
I've not tried Surface Go so I can't say much. But this tablet lags quite easily
Does it comes with Microsoft Office? Or just OS win 11 only?
Just Win 11
Please test Zbrush on it
lmao
The conclusion at the end says it all just get a Android or iOS tablet if you actually wanna enjoy drawing if you wanna just play around “drawing “ then a windows one is for you
drawing program name
this you review Ram 4GB or 8GB?
This one has 8GB RAM
@@teohontech7141 I saw your review it lag when using opera and photoshop
@@masterprog48 It's not a very powerful tablet
This spec can be using for edit vdo or not?
No
@@teohontech7141 thx sir.
Are you sure that the computer isn't auto updating while you tested it
Pretty sure. Because I waited half hour to an hour for the update (includes download and restart) to complete.
any window tablet for study note making purpose
Surface Pro or the Samsung Galaxy Book
@@teohontech7141 in mid range
@@himanshugiri4898 Most Windows tablets are expensive so there's no mid-range unless you're looking at older models. Unless you really need Windows, getting Android tablets would be cheaper and the best budget tablet currently is Xiaomi Pad 5 with Xiaomi Smart Pen.
@@teohontech7141 is mi pad 5 is good for taking notes .....i am also getting ipad 8the gen with apple pencil 1 (used)
at same price in which mi pad 5 without stylus...
I also checout asus duo base variant ..is it good for note-taking
@@himanshugiri4898 Xiaomi pad 5 is good for taking notes. ruclips.net/video/lZWRHIKNQhw/видео.html
Very neat device, ai use MS teams and outlook like always apart from browserf. I don't think they will let it live. Sigh !! Should have been a better processor
yours is 4gb or 8gm ram?
8GB
drawing program name please
Medibang Paint
How is the battery usage..
19:25
It's 2023 and Intel is still trying to trick customers to pay for a 20 yo CPU, the Pentium processor was launched on 1993, I mean bringing Pentium back from the dead, and it doesn't help when Windows 10 still gives you the Application Not Responding!! error.
oof 100% cpu even on tasks this light? holy hell am i glad my tablet is just a cheap android one and i went for a (in comparison) massively powerful laptop with a ryzen 7 instead. almost fell for the surface go the microsoft version of this but i am really glad i dodged this bombhole
bos
Window's tablets, for me, have always been a poor choice for artists, and this machine highlights some of the problems; they are either underpowered or too expensive, and aligned to the poor tablet user experience compared to Android and iOS with respect to quality and apps.
When investing in a tablet for 3-5 years of useage something with this performance is frustrating now and in a year or two will be even worse. Get an Android or iOS tablet as something ike this Vivobook is not meant for anything intensive, so using Android/iOS will not be an issue for apps.
Hem recommended for flex 5 ?
true!
Second to this. It is better to get something like Tab S7 FE WiFi 128|6 (when it's on sale ofc) than something as expensive and underpowered as 13 Slate
I hope that in 5 years Windows on ARM will get better, only then windows tablets would be good investment
Have you looked at the Surface Pro 7+ line, you can get a 11th gen i3 with keyboard for about 600usd? Might not be bundled with a pen but you can buy one of you liking.
Apparently Surface Pro 8 (latest) is quite good, and the pen is finally good (actually as its response in the tablet), while some of the previous versions had been horrid. I'd rather have a full real OS (vs Android or IOS), with a solid file system, and with full compatibility with my work apps. I understand the "on the go solution" to allow me at least some basic editing of my ongoing projects, or to be able to do some light tasks of said projects. Obviously leaving the heavy work for the desktop.
But I'd agree getting a S7 FE is a smart move. Mostly due to the 12 inches screen. To me real state space to draw is more important than many other factors.
The thing is with a Windows tablet you get a ton of compatibility with professional software. For me that'd be a requirement more than nice thing to have. I'd double check though that the tablet can be color calibrated (it seems he could not calibrate this one...but maybe there's some trick to make it possible, and there are software-only (DisplayCal) calibrators in Windows, as a very poor fallback, but it's something). I calibrate all my monitors, I think it's essential. For all I know, you can't really calibrate a Samsung, not even the pro one (about that one...at that price I'd go for an iPad Pro M1). And, to my surprise, neither hardware calibrate an iPad Pro. Yep, colors are pretty neat by default (but not perfect!), but yet so, calibration is important. I can't see it worth it though to put more than 500-600 bucks to illustrate "on the go". That's why despite all the remarkable problems, I'd go for a S7 FE, an iPad standard of this year (379$) but with an Apple Pencil 1st generation, as is compatible, and would look at a Surface Go 3, but Brad says he finds it kindda slow... The S7 FE, despite a worse screen and kind of weak CPU (yet generous in RAM) can be a good solution on the go for sketching.
Another option is a second hand iPad Pro. One of the first ones to have Apple Pencil 2.0 might be a neat solution (also in cost). And I mean the 12.9 inches ones.