I remember when I had a battle with reality from taking to much acid. I couldn't tell if what I saw around me was real or just a big hallucination. From the sensation of touch to audio to visuals, and even time, I was lost. It wasn't until I thought about it like this; If I was really old and crazy, wouldn't people rather see a happily crazed old man compared to an unhappy paranoid soul? All those feelings and thoughts have long ago left and changing my attitude towards the reality I was in, really helped me ride out the storm man. So yeah, nice video and thanks.
The most common counterargument, which gets me pretty irritated. I am well aware of that, I know that what I'm saying is maybe called a "game-rule" I believe? But you see, we assume that if we cannot prove otherwise, then absolute truth exists, *well good luck coming up with a masterfully crafted word-game that is a logical argument prooving that absolute truth exists...* so it can just get proven wrong a few years into the future. So then, we cannot prove that absolute truth exists or doesn't exist, we are not sure, *so what do we do in this position when doing decisions which impact the lives of other humans?* We are humble, just, and honest saying: "what I believe may not be right, so I'll take in acount what you believe also, for a more just judgement"? Or are we fascists by saying "I am right, you are wrong, so I will do this thing (which could just be banning you from eating an specific food, or could just as well be killing your entire race, as it happened in the past)." I barely thought about this, I just been letting it out on the go, so there may be an obvious flaw that I am missing, criticism is welcome... Don't worry, I won't send you to hell. If there's something you aren't absolutely sure you understood, tell me, I'll gladly try to explain it better, I know that with my attempt at satire and Spain as my country of birth, I can get pretty hard to understand. Also, I should mention that I haven't watched this video and I'm probably not going to watch it. If you watched it and think that it's relevant to this argument, then tell, me. Thank you for reading.
Joe, I normally don't comment on videos.... but I must say... I've been using youtube for 6 or 7 years and I've seen all the most known science channels out there, and yours is, by far, the one with greatest potential. I hope you survive the growing stage of your channel because, of all channels, yours is the one I want to see succeed the most. If you can, please, stay motivated!
The great Carl Sagan: "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human aspirations" and his pupil Neil deGrasse Tyson: "The Universe is under no obligation to make sense to you"
Lol, some of them wouldn't know what to do with it anyways. I take public transit all the time and a good portion of the passengers don't even know what street they're on much less know how to use the bus map.
Yeah.. but what is “trust” anyway? Can we trust that this video isn’t some kind of Round Earth propaganda? Seems like it to me.. JK of course I’m a Round Earther, I trust the evidence, and I’m just making fun of all this! Trust me!
In such flat places including parts of Kansas, Nebraska, & the Dakotas it is interesting when it rains a lot. The water doesn't know where to go. It's almost like that serene perfect levelness like in that one episode of Rick and Morty.
uuuuh sry but that's extremely wrong lol. all of texas is basically an incline raising steadily in elevation from the gulf of mexico to amarillo and dumas.
The best "debate" about the existence of an absolute truth was something like this: - There's no absolute truth! - Yeah? Is this an absolute truth? -...
@aud_io “We aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth” so your saying that there is 100% absolute truth?...... if absolute truth doesn’t exist then I did not contradict you, no one would be able to lie about what you just said either because there would not be a true or false hood to what you just said. Every thought, statement, etc. would not be a able to be true because you just took away truth by taking away absolute truth and it wouldn’t be false because if absolute truth doesn’t exist the it couldn’t be true that something is false. Every thought and statement would alway be in contradiction even these statement that I have said. If absolute truth doesn’t exist than every bit of knowledge would fall apart, the things that you think are true couldn’t be true but also couldn’t be false, because even falsehood relies on the existence of absolute truth. For example if you got a false answer on a test then it would be true that you got a false answer on your test, without absolute truth this would not be the case. Every declarative sentence is a truth claim. Also all of your statements “we aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth”, “ ....so it isn’t an absolute truth” , “There’s no way of winning this no matter which side you take”, and “It’s like a whole new uncertainty principle” are truth claims, this means that in order for you argument to have any merit what so ever it would have to be true, if that is the case then absolute truth does exist. So you have two options, either have a argument that has no merit (if you assume that it is possible to not have absolute truth) making it just a bunch of meaningless words or you could just be wrong. So, either way you can not be right, so put it simply and to quote one of these RUclips comment “if you are right then you’re wrong”.
@aud_io “We aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth” so your saying that there is 100% absolute truth?...... if absolute truth doesn’t exist then I did not contradict you, no one would be able to lie about what you just said either because there would not be a true or false hood to what you just said. Every thought, statement, etc. would not be a able to be true because you just took away truth by taking away absolute truth and it wouldn’t be false because if absolute truth doesn’t exist the it couldn’t be true that something is false. Every thought and statement would alway be in contradiction even these statement that I have said. If absolute truth doesn’t exist than every bit of knowledge would fall apart, the things that you think are true couldn’t be true but also couldn’t be false, because even falsehood relies on the existence of absolute truth. For example if you got a false answer on a test then it would be true that you got a false answer on your test, without absolute truth this would not be the case. Every declarative sentence is a truth claim. Also all of your statements “we aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth”, “ ....so it isn’t an absolute truth” , “There’s no way of winning this no matter which side you take”, and “It’s like a whole new uncertainty principle” are truth claims, this means that in order for you argument to have any merit what so ever it would have to be true, if that is the case then absolute truth does exist. So you have two options, either have a argument that has no merit (if you assume that it is possible to not have absolute truth) making it just a bunch of meaningless words or you could just be wrong. So, either way you can not be right, so put it simply and to quote one of these RUclips comment “if you are right then you’re wrong”.
@aud_io “We aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth” so your saying that there is 100% absolute truth?...... if absolute truth doesn’t exist then I did not contradict you, no one would be able to lie about what you just said either because there would not be a true or false hood to what you just said. Every thought, statement, etc. would not be a able to be true because you just took away truth by taking away absolute truth and it wouldn’t be false because if absolute truth doesn’t exist the it couldn’t be true that something is false. Every thought and statement would alway be in contradiction even these statement that I have said. If absolute truth doesn’t exist than every bit of knowledge would fall apart, the things that you think are true couldn’t be true but also couldn’t be false, because even falsehood relies on the existence of absolute truth. For example if you got a false answer on a test then it would be true that you got a false answer on your test, without absolute truth this would not be the case. Every declarative sentence is a truth claim. Also all of your statements “we aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth”, “ ....so it isn’t an absolute truth” , “There’s no way of winning this no matter which side you take”, and “It’s like a whole new uncertainty principle” are truth claims, this means that in order for you argument to have any merit what so ever it would have to be true, if that is the case then absolute truth does exist. So you have two options, either have a argument that has no merit (if you assume that it is possible to not have absolute truth) making it just a bunch of meaningless words or you could just be wrong. So, either way you can not be right, so put it simply and to quote one of these RUclips comment “if you are right then you’re wrong”.
@aud_io “We aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth” so your saying that there is 100% absolute truth?...... if absolute truth doesn’t exist then I did not contradict you, no one would be able to lie about what you just said either because there would not be a true or false hood to what you just said. Every thought, statement, etc. would not be a able to be true because you just took away truth by taking away absolute truth and it wouldn’t be false because if absolute truth doesn’t exist the it couldn’t be true that something is false. Every thought and statement would alway be in contradiction even these statement that I have said. If absolute truth doesn’t exist than every bit of knowledge would fall apart, the things that you think are true couldn’t be true but also couldn’t be false, because even falsehood relies on the existence of absolute truth. For example if you got a false answer on a test then it would be true that you got a false answer on your test, without absolute truth this would not be the case. Every declarative sentence is a truth claim. Also all of your statements “we aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth”, “ ....so it isn’t an absolute truth” , “There’s no way of winning this no matter which side you take”, and “It’s like a whole new uncertainty principle” are truth claims, this means that in order for you argument to have any merit what so ever it would have to be true, if that is the case then absolute truth does exist. So you have two options, either have a argument that has no merit (if you assume that it is possible to not have absolute truth) making it just a bunch of meaningless words or you could just be wrong. So, either way you can not be right, so put it simply and to quote one of these RUclips comment “if you are right then you’re wrong”.
Sorry for the repeated comments safari was acting weird and not letting me comment(as far I knew) so I kept doing it. I the. decided to refresh the page and here I am now.
1) Bangladesh doesn't exist if no one's looking at it. 2) Descartes wrangled with this problem and came up with a sure truth; "I think therefore I am."
I remember disagreeing with parents when I used to grow up and I was thinking about that idea that maybe we BOTH right. But wrong to each other. Like if each human has it's own Truth.
I never expected someone to do such an unbelievably funny video talking about such serious and deep subject. Laughed so much I couldn't concentrate on what you were saying. I had to watch again.Thank you so much.
I caught another of your videos on Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. And you quoted Dr. Tyson. An old joke: A theoretical physicist stood next to an engineer, they both watched the cheer leading team practice across the field. The referee told the two they could get a kiss from the captain if they would walk across the field half way at a time to the end. The theoretical physicist despaired when realizing the infinity in between. The engineer said: "I can get close enough. My point. Absolute truth is not required. Accuracy is.
Probability of truth is also relative and subject for our own experiences. To illustrate this, consider the possibility that of the existence of magical (or "magical", if you will) unicorns who can move at the speed of light and are normally invisible and undetectable to humans, unless it choses to be noticed by a human. To pretty much everyone, that is an astronomical improbability. But assume that youre the only person alive today they like. You have seen them, you have been kicked by one even to prove they were real. While you just saw them a few times, you considered it far more likely that you were just losing your mind. But after many experiences with them, after being kicked by one of them and seeing and feeling very real bruises, your assertion of the smallness of the possibility of their existrnce flips on its head. Granted, you can't prove to any other person, but that doesnt change the facts you experienced yourself. Of course, you might still believe everything was just a trick of your mind because you assess that this possibility clashes with all other things you know, assume and trust/believe, and asses instead that complete madness is more likely. Of course, this was a very extreme and exaggerated example, but it serves its purpose and make it clear what I am going on about. You can easily scale it down to more mundane, less exaggerated cases.
There are absolute truths and I can prove it. Assume there are no absolute truths. In such a universe the statement "There are no absolute truths." would be an absolute truth. The universe would then implode in a poof of logical paridoxicality. (there's a word for your unabridged Webster's dictionary. :-) ) Since the the statement "There are no absolute truths" must be false then its inverse "There ARE absolute truths." must be true. There are absolute truths. end of line...
What if logical reasoning is entirely made up my humans and the universe has nothing of it? Then there's no fancy paradoxical explosion, and no absolute truth.
Logic in and of itself was created to find truth. So if there is no logic, then there is no truth. However, logic has proven to be inexplicably useful in studying the world around us. Everything has a logical explanation (regardless of whether we know it or not). Logic is basically a "natural way of thinking". Note: natural as in it conforms to nature, not as in "it comes naturally" (because to some people it DEFINETLY doesen't XD). So, we have established that logic is valid and thus truth exists. As for it's "absoluteness", well... that is an open question.
Depending on which school of thought you follow (math is either discovered or invented), everything mathematics has to say is absolute truth. It's just independent of everything in the material world and the applications are just approximations, not neccessarily absolute truth.
Truth is truth. You can have a different believe but the truth will always stay the same. We can discover something new and create a new believe but the truth will always be the same. You might not know the truth. But that does not mean there is no truth or all truths are true.
Agreed that liberals and conservatives should stop bickering and try to sort things out through compromise. From someone who tries to be balanced with both sides.
@@cadethumann8605 Because American conservatism is based in social Colonial nationalism and not an Orthodox conservative viewpoint. It's not respectable... Ben Shapiro is a prime example. He himself has said he is more influenced by confirmation bias as opposed to the latter. At least based liberalism In its core can admit they are willing to learn something about their viewpoint. Like a Russell Brand.
People aren't or shouldn't be saying that it is ontologically true that there is no absolute truth or truth is subjective.... making that statement would imply that truth is not just another concept in the mind...that the truth of that statement is somehow measured by..or measured in some external metaphysical realm of Truth. The real argument for the subjectivity of Truth is that...it is just another concept in the mind = ontologically subjective... We judge statements to be true or false if they are in line with...or in violation of our subjective concept of Truth. Note: not subjective in the opinion sense of the word..but subjective in the sense that truth is not a thing that exist out there apart from us like a light wave. I think the closest truth can get to objectivity is epistemological objectivity = true within our subjective experience of the objective world.
I have had this argument with all my closest friends and it’s very satisfying to see an intelligent person like you agree with me. I just want people to realize that there’s always a chance they could be wrong no matter how sure they are so factor that in and don’t be a d*ckhead. Instead it becomes a big huge argument every single time
Thank you for the video. This helps me relate to a lot of the principles I have adopted in recovering from alcoholism. Staying open minded and trusting a Power greater than myself.
I think that it is much more complex than that. Not only do we rationally know things but we also feel them. One of the most profound weaknesses of philosophy and economics, just to name two, is that they reject the place of emotion--i.e. the feeling of that 'meat-suit' that you kind of deride--in the decision making process. We have only just begun to fathom the importance of the physical body in thinking and interacting socially. I believe, for this reason, true artificial intelligence will elude us probably forever.
There's a huge difference between "I don't trust science" and "I don't trust the scientific community." Like you said earlier in the video, people have ulterior motives. What I usually say is "I believe in science, but I don't believe in scientists."
Great episode again. It made me think about what you said about having to trust the equations...maybe you can do a video on that: what is math? there're some really interesting viewpoints on the subject.
I like you straight forward comparison of truth with likelyhood of which truth is more likely. Emotional people tend to go with low probability truth, which is a VERY BIG problem in the world.
Very very very funny Video. Also an important one. I myself have a very very Hard time believing that Flat earthers really are a thing. I mean how stupid can somebody be? Sadly I never met one here in Germany.
Why is there the word "sadly" in your comment? :P But honestly I think flat earthers are just trolls, at least 98% of them. Not only is their viewpoint retarded and demonstrably false (many ways to see this besides going to space, just going to the beach does it) they are too insistent and too inclined to go into places and videos where people will hate them for me to think they are real.
I don't know how i'd handle meeting a flat earther... so bescheuert kann man nicht sein.... Okay I take it back... I imagine a german flat earther is like Kinski
Relative to each individual person And their perspective....absolute truth is from the Creator , we are spirits in avatars learning something we already know in our natural state. In this physical realm we forgot what we knew and have to learn it ! Have a love filled life❤
@Burkley Boo 2. You can make all subjective truths objective by making the statement about the person(or subject). If Bob says “the best color is green” would not be objectively, but subjectively true. But if Tom says “Bob thinks that green is the best color”, that wouldn’t subjectively, but objectively true. So, you’re pretty much right.
great....now we're gunna have Bangladesh conspiracy theorist. thanks Joe! by the way, love the channel. keep up the good work sir. one of the most honest RUclipsrs out there. thank you.
There must be an “absolute truth“. I believe the question is “Can we absolutely recognize it?“. Or to maybe word it a different way, “Can the truth absolutely be known?“. Thank you for the thought-provoking video.
With the help of logic, all what is required to know truth is to be able to think (if truth does not exist then the statement “there are no absolute truths” would been to be true, making the statement contradict its truth value. That statement Is false, making it’s inverse true). Some truths cannot he know at this moment, but will(or would) be known when(or if) new information arises. But to say “NO truth can be know” would half to be false for the same reason “there are no absolute truths”. And I know I’m not quoting you, I’m just taking what your given question implies.
You can measure that the earth is round on your own. There are multiple methods. The original method was to look at the shape of the earths shadow as it crosses the moon during an eclipse. That shadow is round. It is always round. For everyone, every time. The only known shape that makes a round shadow from all directions is a sphere. Also, you can climb a mountain or hill that is adjacent to a body of water of a few tens of miles width. On a clear day, the amount of water out can see changes with height. The change in that termination point is driven by the curvature of the surface.
Aw, come on, Joe. Of course the world is flat! I can prove it. Just step outside. You can stand on the ground. It's flat! I've tried stepping on a ball and it's really hard to stand on it. Duh. The whole universe is flat, too. Just look up and what do you see? SKY! It's always up. You can't see it when you look down, can you? q.e.d. ROTFL
Paradox of Denial This is the absolute truth: there are no such absolute truth. or in another expression: the truth is relative. But if the truth is relative, then expression "the truth is relative" is relative too, in other word, it denies its own expression.
You hit the nail on the head Joe, or rather, you say exactly what I believe so I'm inclined to view your explanation as truth. My first thought upon seeing the title of the video was "Math!"... until I remembered mathematics may actually not be a fundamental part of reality. It could just be an oddly effective, precise logical framework we humans use. To put it another way, we may be confusing the correlation of math being effective to a causation that math is effective because it's a fundamental part of reality. For all we know, math could be an abstraction of the REAL truth: Turtles all the way down.
What a coincidence. I want to watch a video on whether math is created or discovered! Wait....Did your idea also include buttered popcorn washed down with cold beers?. GTFOOT! Me Too! I don't know about you, but this is giving me serious goosebumps.
Eh, everything mathematics has to say _is_ absolute truth. The uncertainty only comes into play when applying it to the "real world" - it may or may not be the best possible framework to model physical behaviour. But the inherent truth in the mathematical proofs is independent of that.
Truth has no relationship with humans. These arguments are the equivalent to the ancients believing the sun orbited around the earth. The truth doesn't orbit around us, we orbit around the truth. Our perception of the truth is subjective, it gives the illusion of relativity.
Marcus Aurelius was the former Emperor of Rome and was the most powerful person in the world more than 2,000 years ago. He was a serious student of Stoic philosophy. He said, "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." I agree that we should not believe everything we hear or read, but our default assumption tends to be that people are telling us the truth as they know it or come to see it. What was accepted as truth about healthy eating 50 years ago isn't necessarily the truth about healthy eating today. It takes more time to consider other perspectives on the topic of enquiry or check multiple sources for corroboratory or contradictory evidence, but having good discernment and judgment is necessary for sound decision-making.
everyone has a worldview and everyone is biased all we need to know is which worldview is the correct one! if truth is subjective that means truth being subjective IS the ABSOLUT TRUTH! and everyone who says that truth is subjective is the one who has the correct worldview
i get your point and it's correct, people have the right to believe in the lowest probability outcome. and you tried to make this not political, but that's where there is a problem right now (at least in the US) if we continue to let the trust in authorities errode - those authorities who seek to provide us with an objective truth (e.g. media and scientists) - aren't we setting ourselves up for a dangerous future? because reality is going to happen if we believe it or not (e.g. climate change). if you go all in on a low probability, you are, by defintion, taking a chance, taking a risk. Frankly those people who have lost trust in the authorities have grounds for that, as there has been corruption in the past and there still is (industry funded science promoting fudged results, media not engaging in nuanced debate but just funneling into echo chambers and going for clicks and eyeballs). but we need these authorities - unless you wanna do the job of 1000 scientists and 1000 jouralists combined, which i don't think anybody has time for. somehow we need to restore that trust. And while political, I think that this is nonpartisan and in everyone's best interest.
Great points, Oliver. I'd like to point out that whether "you go all in on a low probability," you're taking a chance regardless of which option you choose, but your point is not lost on me. The negative effects of climate change do, indeed, seem to be imminent, however, it does scientists a disservice when they politicize and/or exaggerate predictions for funding purposes (i.e. email-gate, where scientists intended to exaggerate claims to secure grant money). Let's hope they come out on the right side of this and other issues. Peace.
We're all incapable of knowing truth. Everything we use to discern truth is always open to interpretation and thus is subjective in nature. We cannot escape our subjectivity.
something was brought up on another page. It was said that the universe was never a singularity. It said all a singularity is was the break down of our math. The astronomer mentioned that the universe was a more dense blob in the past that expanded into the less dense state its in now. If the universe is infinite, the blob was also infinite.
Truth is a judgement call. What any individual calls a *true* proposition is when what *he judges the proposition to mean* matches *his judgement of the state of reality.*
@joe are you serious about people believing the earth is flat?! maybe you dont have to make a big deal about 2 or 3 idiots that want to bring attention to themselves.
Or a whole society; it's not like episterrorists like them can get creationism to be taught side by side with evolution in public schools, or anything.
In the US... maybe in a future video about paradoxes, Joe can simply talk about the US : the most advanced AND retarded country in some aspects. Here in europe (France) that would be totally impossible.
Believe it or not, there's been such talk about migrating that bullshit over here in Brazil; sadly, since the US is a superpower, its shortcomings are wide-ranged.
'Science doesn't care whether or not you believe in it.'- Neil DeGrasse Tyson I LOVE SCIENCE! Kill all the hatemongers who mask religion for their motives... Religion was defined by great philosophers to give people a hope to be alive and be productive. But you know what is happening now...
There are 2 absolute truths; 1. You exist - you know that to be true because you are experiencing something. And you could not experience something unless you existed. 2. Some kind of reality exists. Because there must be a reality of some kind that allows for your existence. Even if that reality is no more than your own existence.
There's also the possibility the truth is in the middle, in that case Earth is a cube (with flat sides) that spins so fast it is perceived as a sphere. The only way to see it is by blinking your eyes rapidly. Next time you look at the sun, give it a try and you'll know what I'm talking about.
When I was younger (& harder up for entertainment) I used to wind people up by claiming to not believe in Australia. I mean, I've never seen it, those animals are RIDICULOUS, & the people who are "from" there basically sound like Brits doing a weird accent... 🤔 Chill!!! I fully believe in Australia, its natural wonders & rugged populace. That was years ago...Nowadays I could have started a whole movement.
YESSS I KNEW I WASNT A WEIRDO! I'm not a physicist but I like to look at "truth" the same way I think about electrons. We think in probability, but just as an electron can exist in 2 states at the same time, truth can be the same (if there is a lack of evidence for otherwise)
honest question; don't you see Descartres statement 'I think, and therefor I am.' as an absolute truth? Because it doesn't define WHAT you are, but it does say that the mechanism that is doubting everything (because yes we can doubt absolutely everything) is SOMETHING....
Concerning all the people saying that the statement "there is no absolute truth" is paradoxical: it actually isn't. Truth can only be about something, so the whole thought should be "there is no absolute truth about something/anything/everything". However, that would exclude one thing - the truth itself. Truth is a concept, not a "thing" such as a force, a state of matter, an ideology etc. Therefore, we CAN say absolute truths about truth itself, because the same rules don't apply when the object you are inspecting is the same thing as the tool it's inspected with. It's the only exception in this case. As Joe said, believing in absolute truth about something eventually comes down to exactly that - believing. And the important part about what I said is "absolute". Sure, we can hold true certain facts that are isolated from a broader picture, such as "I am alive", "It is noon at 12 o'clock", but there is no absolute principle connected to those statements. That is, there is nothing that could make those small truths universal and rellevant to the rest of the universe. I really hope what I wrote is clear enough.
The truth is objective within a given reference frame... essentially, something is objectively true if your belief about it matches the reality of your reference frame, and anyone else sharing that reference frame.
You said that truth is about trust. Honesty is also good. We want more honest people in our lives and the world needs more honest people who tell it like it is. I define honesty as maintaining integrity to the truth. It means reporting on events as accurately as possible and to the best of your ability (within the strengths of your memory and senses). In court, witnesses are asked, "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth (so help you God)?" Not telling the truth in court counts as perjury and it's a federal offense that comes with the penalty of imprisonment. There are claims and there are evidence. If evidence supports the claims, then the claims can be accepted as true (assuming that bias and subjective judgment was removed). If there's no absolute truth, then is there relative truth?
Remember Descartes: you can be sure that YOU exists because you think. (Although it's doubtful in some cases...) ALL the rest can always be a enormous hallucination(?).
Javier Heisecke Man... Study the point a little. You're going to understand. But, basically: what if absolutely no animal ever existed and it all is just your hallucination?
for me, truth is a statement in accordance with the terms of any situation. In its acquisition, it's could be seen like building a tower of assumptions and then sometimes the assumptions becomes what kinds of assumptions to prioritize over others. Critiqueing isn't necessarily about showing a statement is wrong but about revealing the other persons argument requires new and further assumptions or to remind that a piece of information is an assumption; isn't self-evident. It just seems to me to be the case, that our worldviews are so relatively narrow that critiqueing easily becomes synonymous with disproof, because we have these "assumptions about what kinds of assumptions to prioritize" and so we instantly reject statements that begin conflicting too much with these even though, as far as I'm concerned, pure logic can't deny the - however wacky - truths produced by your own niche "worldview adventure". idk. i've thought about this too much with small or no results and possible damage to my sanity. good video, good night.
[1] Does absolute truth exist? - Yes - (Carry on reading for proof) - No - [2] Is that answer absolutely true? - Yes - That leads to contradiction and the answer that absolute truth exists - No - [3] Is it then conceivable that absolute truth exists? - Yes - Loop back to question [2] applying to question [3] - No - Loop back to question [2] applying to question [3]
1. Define absolute truth. Absolute truth - something that is always true everywhere. 2. Humans don’t have the ability to explore into all of time and space so it is impossible for us to identify something that is always true everywhere. 3. If we say “there is no absolute truth,” then we are saying that this statement is always true everywhere; making IT the “absolute truth.” Conclusion: No absolute truth logically cannot be the absolute truth. It is self-contradictory. Because there cannot not be an absolute truth, there must be an absolute truth. But we cannot know it with our ability.
However, there is one way to “know” the absolute truth and that is to know it relationally. I do not know everything there is to know about my wife, but I can say that I know her because I have a relationship with her. So if the absolute truth comes to me and allows me to recognize it and have a relationship with it, then I can say that I know the “absolute truth.” Just like I can say that I know a friend. This seems to me the only logical possibility of “knowing” what is the “absolute truth.”
I enjoy all your videos, but this video, is being forwarded to every human being I know! My vote for, Most Important Video for Humans Living during 2020!!!
Don't let anyone get to ya, Joe :) You don't have to convince anyone of anything for it to be correct. All you're doing is sharing a message, and those who understand it will benefit, and those who don't go without. None of us are your responsibility. The universe has been perfectly content letting living things misunderstand basically everything for millions of years. It shows no signs of changing that attitude, so no pressure on you ;)
Reminds me of an old movie, Rashomon by Akira Kurosawa... A story about a murder, where the witnesses during the trial (the accused, the wife, and the victim through a spiritual medium) all tell a different version of how the crime happened. And there was another witness who who saw everything and has a different version of the events.
Absolute truth must exist. Because if you say, "trust no one." That statement cannot be trusted by the person who said it. Therefore you must trust someone. And if someone can be trusted. Then lies and truth exist. And if truth exists, its absolute.
"Something exists" is an absolute truth, it follows necessarily from the old statement "I think, therefore I am". "That something has always changed" is another one (it can never have been a state of complete non-change, even just a potential means change in some way in what that potential consists of or is caused by).
To answer the question, "What is truth?" requires, first, some sort of determination of what form that truth can take. Can you actually state a truth in words? (Remember, the word is not the object, it is simply an index of the object.) Truth might come in the form of a picture, OR does it come in your understanding of the picture? Thus, you have to begin your search for truth with some assumptions; do those assumptions actually lead to truth? Can they?
The truth is ONLY ONE and the reality prove that it exist, but the lies can be infinite. The real problem is if we can find out it in this world dominated by lies.
I remember when I had a battle with reality from taking to much acid. I couldn't tell if what I saw around me was real or just a big hallucination. From the sensation of touch to audio to visuals, and even time, I was lost. It wasn't until I thought about it like this; If I was really old and crazy, wouldn't people rather see a happily crazed old man compared to an unhappy paranoid soul? All those feelings and thoughts have long ago left and changing my attitude towards the reality I was in, really helped me ride out the storm man. So yeah, nice video and thanks.
"There is no absolute truth." If this statement is correct, then the statement itself is wrong. Lol.
Dude just got his video and philosophy BTFO’d by a comment XD
That’s called a paradox.
N Marrs WRONG
Not absolutely.
The most common counterargument, which gets me pretty irritated.
I am well aware of that, I know that what I'm saying is maybe called a "game-rule" I believe?
But you see, we assume that if we cannot prove otherwise, then absolute truth exists, *well good luck coming up with a masterfully crafted word-game that is a logical argument prooving that absolute truth exists...* so it can just get proven wrong a few years into the future.
So then, we cannot prove that absolute truth exists or doesn't exist, we are not sure, *so what do we do in this position when doing decisions which impact the lives of other humans?* We are humble, just, and honest saying: "what I believe may not be right, so I'll take in acount what you believe also, for a more just judgement"? Or are we fascists by saying "I am right, you are wrong, so I will do this thing (which could just be banning you from eating an specific food, or could just as well be killing your entire race, as it happened in the past)."
I barely thought about this, I just been letting it out on the go, so there may be an obvious flaw that I am missing, criticism is welcome... Don't worry, I won't send you to hell.
If there's something you aren't absolutely sure you understood, tell me, I'll gladly try to explain it better, I know that with my attempt at satire and Spain as my country of birth, I can get pretty hard to understand.
Also, I should mention that I haven't watched this video and I'm probably not going to watch it. If you watched it and think that it's relevant to this argument, then tell, me. Thank you for reading.
Joe, I normally don't comment on videos.... but I must say... I've been using youtube for 6 or 7 years and I've seen all the most known science channels out there, and yours is, by far, the one with greatest potential. I hope you survive the growing stage of your channel because, of all channels, yours is the one I want to see succeed the most. If you can, please, stay motivated!
Hey thanks man! Growing fast these days!
The great Carl Sagan: "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human aspirations" and his pupil Neil deGrasse Tyson: "The Universe is under no obligation to make sense to you"
Or there both full of garbage
Flat-Earthers shouldn't be allowed to use GPS... just sayin'
LMAO
Lol, some of them wouldn't know what to do with it anyways. I take public transit all the time and a good portion of the passengers don't even know what street they're on much less know how to use the bus map.
Balloons, iykyk
This is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very good video. Thanks Joe.
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Veryᵛᵉʳʸ good comment.
oh my god, don't make me work out Very to the power of Very
Yeah.. but what is “trust” anyway? Can we trust that this video isn’t some kind of Round Earth propaganda? Seems like it to me..
JK of course I’m a Round Earther, I trust the evidence, and I’m just making fun of all this! Trust me!
I'm pretty sure the earth is more flat around Oklahoma and Texas... I've seen it.
From ground level a six foot man standing on a flat plain can see about three miles until the earth curves away from him.
In such flat places including parts of Kansas, Nebraska, & the Dakotas it is interesting when it rains a lot. The water doesn't know where to go. It's almost like that serene perfect levelness like in that one episode of Rick and Morty.
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uuuuh sry but that's extremely wrong lol. all of texas is basically an incline raising steadily in elevation from the gulf of mexico to amarillo and dumas.
Kansas is _literally flatter than a pancake_ . There is a frickin' _paper_ on that subject out there xD
trust me us bangladeshis exist and some of us are a big fan of ur channel
lies
Lacerations aww you got me 😂
Ha Ha Ha, Fuck you [rays tube]
love you really you beautiful non-existent homosapien
Only the ones who like my channel are real... ;)
The best "debate" about the existence of an absolute truth was something like this:
- There's no absolute truth!
- Yeah? Is this an absolute truth?
-...
@aud_io
“We aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth” so your saying that there is 100% absolute truth?...... if absolute truth doesn’t exist then I did not contradict you, no one would be able to lie about what you just said either because there would not be a true or false hood to what you just said. Every thought, statement, etc. would not be a able to be true because you just took away truth by taking away absolute truth and it wouldn’t be false because if absolute truth doesn’t exist the it couldn’t be true that something is false. Every thought and statement would alway be in contradiction even these statement that I have said. If absolute truth doesn’t exist than every bit of knowledge would fall apart, the things that you think are true couldn’t be true but also couldn’t be false, because even falsehood relies on the existence of absolute truth. For example if you got a false answer on a test then it would be true that you got a false answer on your test, without absolute truth this would not be the case. Every declarative sentence is a truth claim. Also all of your statements “we aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth”, “ ....so it isn’t an absolute truth” , “There’s no way of winning this no matter which side you take”, and “It’s like a whole new uncertainty principle” are truth claims, this means that in order for you argument to have any merit what so ever it would have to be true, if that is the case then absolute truth does exist. So you have two options, either have a argument that has no merit (if you assume that it is possible to not have absolute truth) making it just a bunch of meaningless words or you could just be wrong. So, either way you can not be right, so put it simply and to quote one of these RUclips comment “if you are right then you’re wrong”.
@aud_io
“We aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth” so your saying that there is 100% absolute truth?...... if absolute truth doesn’t exist then I did not contradict you, no one would be able to lie about what you just said either because there would not be a true or false hood to what you just said. Every thought, statement, etc. would not be a able to be true because you just took away truth by taking away absolute truth and it wouldn’t be false because if absolute truth doesn’t exist the it couldn’t be true that something is false. Every thought and statement would alway be in contradiction even these statement that I have said. If absolute truth doesn’t exist than every bit of knowledge would fall apart, the things that you think are true couldn’t be true but also couldn’t be false, because even falsehood relies on the existence of absolute truth. For example if you got a false answer on a test then it would be true that you got a false answer on your test, without absolute truth this would not be the case. Every declarative sentence is a truth claim. Also all of your statements “we aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth”, “ ....so it isn’t an absolute truth” , “There’s no way of winning this no matter which side you take”, and “It’s like a whole new uncertainty principle” are truth claims, this means that in order for you argument to have any merit what so ever it would have to be true, if that is the case then absolute truth does exist. So you have two options, either have a argument that has no merit (if you assume that it is possible to not have absolute truth) making it just a bunch of meaningless words or you could just be wrong. So, either way you can not be right, so put it simply and to quote one of these RUclips comment “if you are right then you’re wrong”.
@aud_io
“We aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth” so your saying that there is 100% absolute truth?...... if absolute truth doesn’t exist then I did not contradict you, no one would be able to lie about what you just said either because there would not be a true or false hood to what you just said. Every thought, statement, etc. would not be a able to be true because you just took away truth by taking away absolute truth and it wouldn’t be false because if absolute truth doesn’t exist the it couldn’t be true that something is false. Every thought and statement would alway be in contradiction even these statement that I have said. If absolute truth doesn’t exist than every bit of knowledge would fall apart, the things that you think are true couldn’t be true but also couldn’t be false, because even falsehood relies on the existence of absolute truth. For example if you got a false answer on a test then it would be true that you got a false answer on your test, without absolute truth this would not be the case. Every declarative sentence is a truth claim. Also all of your statements “we aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth”, “ ....so it isn’t an absolute truth” , “There’s no way of winning this no matter which side you take”, and “It’s like a whole new uncertainty principle” are truth claims, this means that in order for you argument to have any merit what so ever it would have to be true, if that is the case then absolute truth does exist. So you have two options, either have a argument that has no merit (if you assume that it is possible to not have absolute truth) making it just a bunch of meaningless words or you could just be wrong. So, either way you can not be right, so put it simply and to quote one of these RUclips comment “if you are right then you’re wrong”.
@aud_io
“We aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth” so your saying that there is 100% absolute truth?...... if absolute truth doesn’t exist then I did not contradict you, no one would be able to lie about what you just said either because there would not be a true or false hood to what you just said. Every thought, statement, etc. would not be a able to be true because you just took away truth by taking away absolute truth and it wouldn’t be false because if absolute truth doesn’t exist the it couldn’t be true that something is false. Every thought and statement would alway be in contradiction even these statement that I have said. If absolute truth doesn’t exist than every bit of knowledge would fall apart, the things that you think are true couldn’t be true but also couldn’t be false, because even falsehood relies on the existence of absolute truth. For example if you got a false answer on a test then it would be true that you got a false answer on your test, without absolute truth this would not be the case. Every declarative sentence is a truth claim. Also all of your statements “we aren’t sure that there isn’t absolute truth”, “ ....so it isn’t an absolute truth” , “There’s no way of winning this no matter which side you take”, and “It’s like a whole new uncertainty principle” are truth claims, this means that in order for you argument to have any merit what so ever it would have to be true, if that is the case then absolute truth does exist. So you have two options, either have a argument that has no merit (if you assume that it is possible to not have absolute truth) making it just a bunch of meaningless words or you could just be wrong. So, either way you can not be right, so put it simply and to quote one of these RUclips comment “if you are right then you’re wrong”.
Sorry for the repeated comments safari was acting weird and not letting me comment(as far I knew) so I kept doing it. I the. decided to refresh the page and here I am now.
1) Bangladesh doesn't exist if no one's looking at it. 2) Descartes wrangled with this problem and came up with a sure truth; "I think therefore I am."
The Earth is concave as otherwise the water would spill out ;)
Ya figured it out man.
WHAT? No. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence to prove that the Earth is indeed an elliptical torus. A “warped donut,” if you will.
There's no water on spherical Earth! Lol
Matt Kowalewski convex my guy😘
You forgot about the ice wall! Duhh
The only time I laugh at Joe’s small skits and jokes is when I’m drunk and that’s how I like it 😂
I remember disagreeing with parents when I used to grow up and I was thinking about that idea that maybe we BOTH right. But wrong to each other. Like if each human has it's own Truth.
That would be called opinion, but truth is not subject to opinion.
I never expected someone to do such an unbelievably funny video talking about such serious and deep subject. Laughed so much I couldn't concentrate on what you were saying. I had to watch again.Thank you so much.
This channel is worth 1 million subs, can't believe it hasn't gone viral yet, Joe you're absolutely awesome and that's the TRUTH (or is it?)
I caught another of your videos on Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. And you quoted Dr. Tyson.
An old joke: A theoretical physicist stood next to an engineer, they both watched the cheer leading team practice across the field. The referee told the two they could get a kiss from the captain if they would walk across the field half way at a time to the end. The theoretical physicist despaired when realizing the infinity in between. The engineer said: "I can get close enough.
My point. Absolute truth is not required. Accuracy is.
You should have grown the beard while saying "very"
I no longer know what 'very' means
Probability of truth is also relative and subject for our own experiences.
To illustrate this, consider the possibility that of the existence of magical (or "magical", if you will) unicorns who can move at the speed of light and are normally invisible and undetectable to humans, unless it choses to be noticed by a human. To pretty much everyone, that is an astronomical improbability. But assume that youre the only person alive today they like. You have seen them, you have been kicked by one even to prove they were real. While you just saw them a few times, you considered it far more likely that you were just losing your mind. But after many experiences with them, after being kicked by one of them and seeing and feeling very real bruises, your assertion of the smallness of the possibility of their existrnce flips on its head. Granted, you can't prove to any other person, but that doesnt change the facts you experienced yourself. Of course, you might still believe everything was just a trick of your mind because you assess that this possibility clashes with all other things you know, assume and trust/believe, and asses instead that complete madness is more likely.
Of course, this was a very extreme and exaggerated example, but it serves its purpose and make it clear what I am going on about. You can easily scale it down to more mundane, less exaggerated cases.
There are absolute truths and I can prove it.
Assume there are no absolute truths. In such a universe the statement "There are no absolute truths." would be an absolute truth. The universe would then implode in a poof of logical paridoxicality. (there's a word for your unabridged Webster's dictionary. :-) )
Since the the statement "There are no absolute truths" must be false then its inverse "There ARE absolute truths." must be true.
There are absolute truths.
end of line...
Because there ARE absolute truths, science actually has something to study. :-) Otherwise we may as well become mystics.
What if logical reasoning is entirely made up my humans and the universe has nothing of it? Then there's no fancy paradoxical explosion, and no absolute truth.
Logic in and of itself was created to find truth. So if there is no logic, then there is no truth. However, logic has proven to be inexplicably useful in studying the world around us. Everything has a logical explanation (regardless of whether we know it or not). Logic is basically a "natural way of thinking". Note: natural as in it conforms to nature, not as in "it comes naturally" (because to some people it DEFINETLY doesen't XD).
So, we have established that logic is valid and thus truth exists. As for it's "absoluteness", well... that is an open question.
Actually you are only 99% that there is no absolute truth. So you are not being absolute. Never
Depending on which school of thought you follow (math is either discovered or invented), everything mathematics has to say is absolute truth. It's just independent of everything in the material world and the applications are just approximations, not neccessarily absolute truth.
"Truth is about trust." Well put, Joe!
He forgot to add, "It's about market, too!" XD
Kevin Kevech Do you trust that statement?
I'm gonna assume you know that's wrong and you're just complimenting his voice or something
Truth is truth. You can have a different believe but the truth will always stay the same. We can discover something new and create a new believe but the truth will always be the same. You might not know the truth. But that does not mean there is no truth or all truths are true.
Joe is liberal and I'm conservative. I love this guy (I'm not being a smart ass) people need to reunite
I think Joe is evidence based and you're ideology based.
Agreed that liberals and conservatives should stop bickering and try to sort things out through compromise.
From someone who tries to be balanced with both sides.
@@cadethumann8605 Political ideologies are for the Unintelligent lol. Liberal by definition is a nuanced Ideology. Conservative isn't.
@@lolivingston6827 What's exactly wrong with being conservative to any extant?
@@cadethumann8605 Because American conservatism is based in social Colonial nationalism and not an Orthodox conservative viewpoint. It's not respectable... Ben Shapiro is a prime example. He himself has said he is more influenced by confirmation bias as opposed to the latter.
At least based liberalism In its core can admit they are willing to learn something about their viewpoint. Like a Russell Brand.
Paradox: truth is not absolute:
If truth is not absolute; than that is an absolute truth, and it disproves itself.
People aren't or shouldn't be saying that it is ontologically true that there is no absolute truth or truth is subjective.... making that statement would imply that truth is not just another concept in the mind...that the truth of that statement is somehow measured by..or measured in some external metaphysical realm of Truth.
The real argument for the subjectivity of Truth is that...it is just another concept in the mind = ontologically subjective... We judge statements to be true or false if they are in line with...or in violation of our subjective concept of Truth.
Note: not subjective in the opinion sense of the word..but subjective in the sense that truth is not a thing that exist out there apart from us like a light wave.
I think the closest truth can get to objectivity is epistemological objectivity = true within our subjective experience of the objective world.
Joe, I regret discovering your channel so late. You're sort of a dynamite, dude. I appreciate your work. :D
I have had this argument with all my closest friends and it’s very satisfying to see an intelligent person like you agree with me. I just want people to realize that there’s always a chance they could be wrong no matter how sure they are so factor that in and don’t be a d*ckhead. Instead it becomes a big huge argument every single time
Thank you for the video. This helps me relate to a lot of the principles I have adopted in recovering from alcoholism. Staying open minded and trusting a Power greater than myself.
Just stumbled across your channel whilst randomly searching sciency stuff. Your charisma, content delivery and topics are all excellent. Subscribed.
I believe in absolute truth, however I'm open to having my mind changed if presented with a valid argument.
I think that it is much more complex than that. Not only do we rationally know things but we also feel them. One of the most profound weaknesses of philosophy and economics, just to name two, is that they reject the place of emotion--i.e. the feeling of that 'meat-suit' that you kind of deride--in the decision making process. We have only just begun to fathom the importance of the physical body in thinking and interacting socially. I believe, for this reason, true artificial intelligence will elude us probably forever.
Hey pal, I am from Bangladesh and I'm very real. At least I think that I am. I don't really know...
You think therefor you are.
There's a huge difference between "I don't trust science" and "I don't trust the scientific community." Like you said earlier in the video, people have ulterior motives. What I usually say is "I believe in science, but I don't believe in scientists."
Great episode again. It made me think about what you said about having to trust the equations...maybe you can do a video on that: what is math? there're some really interesting viewpoints on the subject.
You're not the only person to suggest that. :)
I like you straight forward comparison of truth with likelyhood of which truth is more likely.
Emotional people tend to go with low probability truth, which is a VERY BIG problem in the world.
Very very very funny Video. Also an important one. I myself have a very very Hard time believing that Flat earthers really are a thing. I mean how stupid can somebody be? Sadly I never met one here in Germany.
There are some in this comment thread. Trust me, they are very real.
Joe Scott I know. But my brain keeps refusing the evidence. That is one thing, I have in common with those. 😉
truskor well jus hear their point of view u dint have to believe it
Why is there the word "sadly" in your comment? :P
But honestly I think flat earthers are just trolls, at least 98% of them. Not only is their viewpoint retarded and demonstrably false (many ways to see this besides going to space, just going to the beach does it) they are too insistent and too inclined to go into places and videos where people will hate them for me to think they are real.
I don't know how i'd handle meeting a flat earther... so bescheuert kann man nicht sein....
Okay I take it back... I imagine a german flat earther is like Kinski
Relative to each individual person And
their perspective....absolute truth is from the Creator , we are spirits in avatars learning something we already know in our natural state. In this physical realm we forgot what we knew and have to learn it ! Have a love filled life❤
"Objective" Truth: The world is round. "Subjective" Truth: I feel happy. There....just saved you ten minutes.
No, the fact that you feel happy is true, for everyone, everywhere, right now. If you feel happy, my perception can't change that.
@Burkley Boo 2. You can make all subjective truths objective by making the statement about the person(or subject). If Bob says “the best color is green” would not be objectively, but subjectively true. But if Tom says “Bob thinks that green is the best color”, that wouldn’t subjectively, but objectively true.
So, you’re pretty much right.
"Listen to this carefully, Norman. I am lying." Harry Mudd
Dude, you missed the opportunity for a Spongebob timecard reference!
Goldie Tamamo I like what he did there though
Aristotle was a small mind compared to Socrates, I think.
great....now we're gunna have Bangladesh conspiracy theorist. thanks Joe!
by the way, love the channel. keep up the good work sir. one of the most honest RUclipsrs out there. thank you.
There must be an “absolute truth“.
I believe the question is “Can we absolutely recognize it?“.
Or to maybe word it a different way, “Can the truth absolutely be known?“.
Thank you for the thought-provoking video.
Why must there be an absolute truth?
With the help of logic, all what is required to know truth is to be able to think (if truth does not exist then the statement “there are no absolute truths” would been to be true, making the statement contradict its truth value. That statement Is false, making it’s inverse true). Some truths cannot he know at this moment, but will(or would) be known when(or if) new information arises. But to say “NO truth can be know” would half to be false for the same reason “there are no absolute truths”.
And I know I’m not quoting you, I’m just taking what your given question implies.
Have*
Maybe no there is no absolute truth, but their levels of probability that allow us to predict truth to a high degree of accuracy.
Thumbs up man.
Saying theres no absolute thruth, you made an absolute thruth.
You can measure that the earth is round on your own. There are multiple methods. The original method was to look at the shape of the earths shadow as it crosses the moon during an eclipse. That shadow is round. It is always round. For everyone, every time. The only known shape that makes a round shadow from all directions is a sphere. Also, you can climb a mountain or hill that is adjacent to a body of water of a few tens of miles width. On a clear day, the amount of water out can see changes with height. The change in that termination point is driven by the curvature of the surface.
Aw, come on, Joe. Of course the world is flat! I can prove it. Just step outside. You can stand on the ground. It's flat! I've tried stepping on a ball and it's really hard to stand on it. Duh. The whole universe is flat, too. Just look up and what do you see? SKY! It's always up. You can't see it when you look down, can you? q.e.d.
ROTFL
Your argument is bullet-proof.
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GIVE HIM THE NOBEL PRIZE!!!
Joe Scott I've seen holes dug in the ground though explain that Joe
Universe is actually pretty flat :D
I am absolute truth. So are you. It is what we did during our life and who we did it with. It is eternal.
love your sense of humour :D
and ... I recommend googling something about Bielefeld conspiracy ... it is related to the topic of the video
Funny. Never heard of that.
Paradox of Denial
This is the absolute truth: there are no such absolute truth.
or in another expression: the truth is relative. But if the truth is relative, then expression "the truth is relative" is relative too, in other word, it denies its own expression.
You hit the nail on the head Joe, or rather, you say exactly what I believe so I'm inclined to view your explanation as truth.
My first thought upon seeing the title of the video was "Math!"... until I remembered mathematics may actually not be a fundamental part of reality. It could just be an oddly effective, precise logical framework we humans use. To put it another way, we may be confusing the correlation of math being effective to a causation that math is effective because it's a fundamental part of reality. For all we know, math could be an abstraction of the REAL truth:
Turtles all the way down.
I do want to do a video some day on whether math is created or discovered.
What a coincidence. I want to watch a video on whether math is created or discovered! Wait....Did your idea also include buttered popcorn washed down with cold beers?. GTFOOT! Me Too! I don't know about you, but this is giving me serious goosebumps.
Joe Scott are you getting more requests on CB?
Joe Scott also I love the "loot crate" type of stuff, not getting just CB but some other stuff too
Eh, everything mathematics has to say _is_ absolute truth. The uncertainty only comes into play when applying it to the "real world" - it may or may not be the best possible framework to model physical behaviour. But the inherent truth in the mathematical proofs is independent of that.
Truth has no relationship with humans. These arguments are the equivalent to the ancients believing the sun orbited around the earth. The truth doesn't orbit around us, we orbit around the truth. Our perception of the truth is subjective, it gives the illusion of relativity.
Come on!! You should know better!! The world is banana shaped!! Sheep's bladders can be used to predict earthquakes too.
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Marcus Aurelius was the former Emperor of Rome and was the most powerful person in the world more than 2,000 years ago. He was a serious student of Stoic philosophy. He said, "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." I agree that we should not believe everything we hear or read, but our default assumption tends to be that people are telling us the truth as they know it or come to see it. What was accepted as truth about healthy eating 50 years ago isn't necessarily the truth about healthy eating today. It takes more time to consider other perspectives on the topic of enquiry or check multiple sources for corroboratory or contradictory evidence, but having good discernment and judgment is necessary for sound decision-making.
is each "very" a "0" to the right of the decimal point?
I was thinking the exact same thought!
Very is a googleplex. The end result is 1/(very^~55)
everyone has a worldview and everyone is biased
all we need to know is which worldview is the correct one!
if truth is subjective that means truth being subjective IS the ABSOLUT TRUTH!
and everyone who says that truth is subjective is the one who has the correct worldview
i get your point and it's correct, people have the right to believe in the lowest probability outcome. and you tried to make this not political, but that's where there is a problem right now (at least in the US)
if we continue to let the trust in authorities errode - those authorities who seek to provide us with an objective truth (e.g. media and scientists) - aren't we setting ourselves up for a dangerous future? because reality is going to happen if we believe it or not (e.g. climate change). if you go all in on a low probability, you are, by defintion, taking a chance, taking a risk.
Frankly those people who have lost trust in the authorities have grounds for that, as there has been corruption in the past and there still is (industry funded science promoting fudged results, media not engaging in nuanced debate but just funneling into echo chambers and going for clicks and eyeballs).
but we need these authorities - unless you wanna do the job of 1000 scientists and 1000 jouralists combined, which i don't think anybody has time for.
somehow we need to restore that trust. And while political, I think that this is nonpartisan and in everyone's best interest.
Great points, Oliver. I'd like to point out that whether "you go all in on a low probability," you're taking a chance regardless of which option you choose, but your point is not lost on me. The negative effects of climate change do, indeed, seem to be imminent, however, it does scientists a disservice when they politicize and/or exaggerate predictions for funding purposes (i.e. email-gate, where scientists intended to exaggerate claims to secure grant money). Let's hope they come out on the right side of this and other issues. Peace.
We're all incapable of knowing truth. Everything we use to discern truth is always open to interpretation and thus is subjective in nature. We cannot escape our subjectivity.
LMAO ! I'm from Bangladesh . Anyway love your videos, keep up the good work !
Rafsan Ahmed How do I know that you're from Bangladesh, he says it's a conspiracy and it doesn't exist
Javier Heisecke I guess you'll have to just trust me on this lol
That's just what someone who is lying about living in Bangladesh would say...
Rafsan Ahmed I'm from Bangladesh. Trust me.
I did it for him
something was brought up on another page. It was said that the universe was never a singularity. It said all a singularity is was the break down of our math. The astronomer mentioned that the universe was a more dense blob in the past that expanded into the less dense state its in now. If the universe is infinite, the blob was also infinite.
Joe’s “not going to get political” struggle is me at family events.
Existence cannot be denied irrespective of perspective or perception. Existence itself is Truth.
QED.
I think you confuse two questions here : Is there absolute truth ? and, can we know anything as human ?
These are VERY different.
Truth is a judgement call. What any individual calls a *true* proposition is when what *he judges the proposition to mean* matches *his judgement of the state of reality.*
@joe are you serious about people believing the earth is flat?! maybe you dont have to make a big deal about 2 or 3 idiots that want to bring attention to themselves.
Or a whole society; it's not like episterrorists like them can get creationism to be taught side by side with evolution in public schools, or anything.
In the US... maybe in a future video about paradoxes, Joe can simply talk about the US : the most advanced AND retarded country in some aspects. Here in europe (France) that would be totally impossible.
Believe it or not, there's been such talk about migrating that bullshit over here in Brazil; sadly, since the US is a superpower, its shortcomings are wide-ranged.
Absolute honesty isn't always the most diplomatic nor the safest form of communication with emotional beings - Tars Interstellar.
'Science doesn't care whether or not you believe in it.'- Neil DeGrasse Tyson
I LOVE SCIENCE!
Kill all the hatemongers who mask religion for their motives... Religion was defined by great philosophers to give people a hope to be alive and be productive. But you know what is happening now...
YES!
(Except for the killing people part, come on now...)
Joe Scott Hyperbole is important in life.😅
There are 2 absolute truths; 1. You exist - you know that to be true because you are experiencing something. And you could not experience something unless you existed.
2. Some kind of reality exists. Because there must be a reality of some kind that allows for your existence. Even if that reality is no more than your own existence.
I agree with you, earth is flat :D
There's also the possibility the truth is in the middle, in that case Earth is a cube (with flat sides) that spins so fast it is perceived as a sphere. The only way to see it is by blinking your eyes rapidly. Next time you look at the sun, give it a try and you'll know what I'm talking about.
When I was younger (& harder up for entertainment) I used to wind people up by claiming to not believe in Australia. I mean, I've never seen it, those animals are RIDICULOUS, & the people who are "from" there basically sound like Brits doing a weird accent... 🤔 Chill!!! I fully believe in Australia, its natural wonders & rugged populace. That was years ago...Nowadays I could have started a whole movement.
Nice meatsuit baby!
No joking, I came very close to putting #nicemeatsuit on the screen at that line, but I wasn't sure people would get it.
YESSS I KNEW I WASNT A WEIRDO! I'm not a physicist but I like to look at "truth" the same way I think about electrons. We think in probability, but just as an electron can exist in 2 states at the same time, truth can be the same (if there is a lack of evidence for otherwise)
honest question; don't you see Descartres statement 'I think, and therefor I am.' as an absolute truth? Because it doesn't define WHAT you are, but it does say that the mechanism that is doubting everything (because yes we can doubt absolutely everything) is SOMETHING....
Concerning all the people saying that the statement "there is no absolute truth" is paradoxical: it actually isn't. Truth can only be about something, so the whole thought should be "there is no absolute truth about something/anything/everything". However, that would exclude one thing - the truth itself. Truth is a concept, not a "thing" such as a force, a state of matter, an ideology etc. Therefore, we CAN say absolute truths about truth itself, because the same rules don't apply when the object you are inspecting is the same thing as the tool it's inspected with. It's the only exception in this case. As Joe said, believing in absolute truth about something eventually comes down to exactly that - believing. And the important part about what I said is "absolute". Sure, we can hold true certain facts that are isolated from a broader picture, such as "I am alive", "It is noon at 12 o'clock", but there is no absolute principle connected to those statements. That is, there is nothing that could make those small truths universal and rellevant to the rest of the universe.
I really hope what I wrote is clear enough.
The truth is objective within a given reference frame... essentially, something is objectively true if your belief about it matches the reality of your reference frame, and anyone else sharing that reference frame.
You said that truth is about trust. Honesty is also good. We want more honest people in our lives and the world needs more honest people who tell it like it is. I define honesty as maintaining integrity to the truth. It means reporting on events as accurately as possible and to the best of your ability (within the strengths of your memory and senses). In court, witnesses are asked, "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth (so help you God)?" Not telling the truth in court counts as perjury and it's a federal offense that comes with the penalty of imprisonment. There are claims and there are evidence. If evidence supports the claims, then the claims can be accepted as true (assuming that bias and subjective judgment was removed).
If there's no absolute truth, then is there relative truth?
this is absolute truth . happy wife makes a happy life and the kids are always right even when they are wrong.
My current existence is TRUTH.
Remember Descartes: you can be sure that YOU exists because you think. (Although it's doubtful in some cases...) ALL the rest can always be a enormous hallucination(?).
MC's Creations so animals don't exist, because they can't think, they just act by instinct
Javier Heisecke Man... Study the point a little. You're going to understand. But, basically: what if absolutely no animal ever existed and it all is just your hallucination?
Truth is provable information which accords to reality. Everything else is anything but true. Hypothesis, theory, belief an so forth.
for me, truth is a statement in accordance with the terms of any situation. In its acquisition, it's could be seen like building a tower of assumptions and then sometimes the assumptions becomes what kinds of assumptions to prioritize over others. Critiqueing isn't necessarily about showing a statement is wrong but about revealing the other persons argument requires new and further assumptions or to remind that a piece of information is an assumption; isn't self-evident. It just seems to me to be the case, that our worldviews are so relatively narrow that critiqueing easily becomes synonymous with disproof, because we have these "assumptions about what kinds of assumptions to prioritize" and so we instantly reject statements that begin conflicting too much with these even though, as far as I'm concerned, pure logic can't deny the - however wacky - truths produced by your own niche "worldview adventure".
idk. i've thought about this too much with small or no results and possible damage to my sanity. good video, good night.
4:40 what the hell, that was amazing lmaoo
" I think therefore I am"
Probably the only true words spoken
Prove it
We choose what to believe not necessarily because there's the problem of being closed minded because an idea has some personal value
Absolute truth absolutely exist! Relativity is relative!
You're welcome!!!!
WiFi stopped working and I got an error click to try again, and when I clicked the thumbnail for this video popped up it was perfect
[1] Does absolute truth exist?
- Yes
- (Carry on reading for proof)
- No
- [2] Is that answer absolutely true?
- Yes
- That leads to contradiction and the answer that absolute truth exists
- No
- [3] Is it then conceivable that absolute truth exists?
- Yes
- Loop back to question [2] applying to question [3]
- No
- Loop back to question [2] applying to question [3]
There is an absolute truth for everything, only we fail to describe it precisely
If "absolute truth doesn't exist" wouldn't that make your statement's truth be absolute? So truth really is absolute...
1. Define absolute truth. Absolute truth - something that is always true everywhere.
2. Humans don’t have the ability to explore into all of time and space so it is impossible for us to identify something that is always true everywhere.
3. If we say “there is no absolute truth,” then we are saying that this statement is always true everywhere; making IT the “absolute truth.”
Conclusion: No absolute truth logically cannot be the absolute truth. It is self-contradictory. Because there cannot not be an absolute truth, there must be an absolute truth. But we cannot know it with our ability.
However, there is one way to “know” the absolute truth and that is to know it relationally. I do not know everything there is to know about my wife, but I can say that I know her because I have a relationship with her. So if the absolute truth comes to me and allows me to recognize it and have a relationship with it, then I can say that I know the “absolute truth.” Just like I can say that I know a friend. This seems to me the only logical possibility of “knowing” what is the “absolute truth.”
There are two choices.
1) Absolute truth exists.
or
2) Absolute truth does not exist.
I enjoy all your videos, but this video, is being forwarded to every human being I know! My vote for, Most Important Video for Humans Living during 2020!!!
Best video ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Seriously loved it.
Don't let anyone get to ya, Joe :) You don't have to convince anyone of anything for it to be correct. All you're doing is sharing a message, and those who understand it will benefit, and those who don't go without. None of us are your responsibility.
The universe has been perfectly content letting living things misunderstand basically everything for millions of years. It shows no signs of changing that attitude, so no pressure on you ;)
Reminds me of an old movie, Rashomon by Akira Kurosawa... A story about a murder, where the witnesses during the trial (the accused, the wife, and the victim through a spiritual medium) all tell a different version of how the crime happened. And there was another witness who who saw everything and has a different version of the events.
It felt nice to hear the name of BD from a foreign RUclips that does tech video! 👌
Absolute truth must exist. Because if you say, "trust no one." That statement cannot be trusted by the person who said it. Therefore you must trust someone. And if someone can be trusted. Then lies and truth exist. And if truth exists, its absolute.
God is the absolute truth
"Something exists" is an absolute truth, it follows necessarily from the old statement "I think, therefore I am". "That something has always changed" is another one (it can never have been a state of complete non-change, even just a potential means change in some way in what that potential consists of or is caused by).
This video is the best on youtube right now, at least for me, thanks very much for it, you're awesome!)
Loved the 'Science Booty Shake'. Hilarious!!!
To answer the question, "What is truth?" requires, first, some sort of determination of what form that truth can take. Can you actually state a truth in words? (Remember, the word is not the object, it is simply an index of the object.) Truth might come in the form of a picture, OR does it come in your understanding of the picture? Thus, you have to begin your search for truth with some assumptions; do those assumptions actually lead to truth? Can they?
Everything, everything passes through our inner world subject to interpretation.
The truth is ONLY ONE and the reality prove that it exist, but the lies can be infinite. The real problem is if we can find out it in this world dominated by lies.
I haven't been subbed to your channel for very long, but the more i watch, the more i enjoy your content. I love your sense of humor. Great stuff Joe!
Thanks!