In the era of the dinosaurs, the Moon was closer and would have blotted out the Sun's disk and its corona. In the future, it will be further away and won't cover the Sun's disk. It's just happened in time for us to be here to witness it.
We also have a bible, the most popular book on earth, written 2,000-6,000 years ago, and it states that 666 is the mark of the beast right? If all beasts are carbon based, and the isotope carbon 12 (99.97% of all carbon) is 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons. Was this a hint at the simulation yet again? "Let he who has wisdom calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of man, the mark of the beast" here's another, if you follow this rule of 1=A, 2=B, 3=C, 4=D, 5=E, so on and so on, and you consider this: GOD, G=7 O=15, D=4, 7 x 15 x 4 = 420, : ), weed has certainly taught me a lot I'll say that. what about the pyramid of giza's coordinates matching up with the speed of light? it's down to the 4th decimal i believe, that's astronomically rare too.
@@bodhisattva9762 It depends.If you are surrounded by stupid people,there is no way you can understand my comment. Of course for you,my comment will feel stupid and all that's okay. I know many examples who have 180° change in life direction despite struggling before marriage.
Ryukachoo, well if that does come to pass it would not hurt to clear out your spare room and turn it into a hotel room of sorts..... Just like with the last Olympics in Rio, thousands of people cleared out their spare rooms because kidnapping is the most common crime there and they wanted to make some easy money! Is that true? Yeah, yeah..... No.
...and I thought all the traffic just driving up to Oregon was bad...and we lucked out by having a friend live there! ...how far in advance are you supposed to book a room for interstellar travel?
if they didnt like it they would have just resetted us they wanted us to believe we live in simulation they are enjoying our progress that's why we are still here so.. yeah
There is one little detail missing... It is NOT the case that the Sun is EXACTLY as much further away from the Earth than the Moon as it is bigger and hence their apparent sizes matching exactly. The Earth is in an elliptic orbit around the Sun so the Sun appears bigger and smaller in the sky at different times of the year. The Moon in turn is in an elliptic orbit around the Earth so its size also appears bigger and smaller throughout the lunar month. All in all, depending on the position of the Earth in its elliptic orbit around the Sun and of the Moon in its elliptic orbit around the Earth, the apparent diameter of the Moon can look from 13% smaller to 8% bigger than the Sun''s. That is a 20+ % range end to end. A lot. So the real question is what are the odds that the RANGE of relative sizes of the moon(s) and sun(s) for any given planet include a case where both look equal. The more elliptic the planet and moon(s) orbits, the more likely that the "equal apparent size" condition will be within the range of relative sizes.
He answered that question as when the apparent sizes of the sun and moon don't exactly match as either an occultation or a transit. The ARE times in the elliptical orbit however when they exactly match
@@M13x13M ... Are you serious or is it a joke? We (humans) absolutely understand the mechanics of why the time it takes the Moon to complete 1 rotation on its axis matches the time it takes the Moon to complete 1 revolution around the Earth. It is called "Tidal lock" and it is a common thing in the Universe. It is the same reason why Earth's rotation is also slowing down (yes, days are getting longer every year, a measurable amount but still too small to notice it except with precise instrumentation), and if the Sun lived long enough (it will not), eventually we would have the same face of the Earth facing the Sun all the time. It is called "TIDAL LOCK". Google it. Or wikipedia it.
I think you have missed a few factors. When the moon is at it's closest to earth and the sun is at it's furthest, the moon appears 12% larger than the sun (Moon having a size of 33 arc-minutes and 14 arc-seconds, the sun having 29 arc-minutes and 41 arc-seconds). When the opposite is true, i.e. moon is at it's further and the sun is at it's closest, the sun appears 4% larger than the moon. I believe you gave the impression to the audience that the moon fits perfectly in front of the sun, it doesn't. It is almost never exactly the same size. If I were a designer of the system I would have made it exactly the same size or at least a lot closer than what it actually is. Why make it about the right size if there was a grand designer? Secondly, a total solar eclipse is one that blocks out the sun such that all of or part of the corona is visible as an apparent annulus around the moon. Considering the corona is very large, the moon can be much larger than it's current size and still fulfill the requirements of a total solar eclipse. e.g. if we use the average distance of the moon and average distance of the sun, the moon could be twice as big as it is now and it would: a. Block out the sun and some of the corona b. Leave plenty of corona remaining to view as an apparent annulus around the moon. This also means the "magic number" or ratio is not a constant but a range of values. just like the Goldilocks zone is not a single distance but a range of distances away from the sun.
I'd like to point out the latest solar eclipse shows the moon can also be too small to block out the sun completely leaving a 'ring of fire'. See eclipse of 26 Dec 2019
@The Truth of the Matter Not sure if you're speaking to the author of the video or you have difficulty reading, the comment clearly mentions the corona. If you're trying to correct the word 'corona' to 'Corona' then you would be the ''dumbass'. The corona is part of the sun, a Corona is a brand of beer. *The more you know*
Joe states "The solar eclipse as we experience it..." - that's the crucial part I believe - it's not that the moon exactly covers the sun all the time (as you prove, it doesn't), it's how we experience the solar eclipse that's the important part - from our perspective, the moon does cover the sun exactly, which is highly improbable. A designer would only need to design the eclipse so the moon appears to cover the sun from our perspective, which is what happens.
@@HermeticWorlds The calculations presented in the comment are indeed from an earth perspective and hence as we experience it. The moon does not cover the sun exactly from our perspective.
Matthew e Yet when I’ve said the correct spelling my comments get deleted. Try adding virus to your spelling. Got two accounts shadow banned so far. Lol
There are a potentially infinite number of improbable attributes that our planet could have, so if we didn't have the ability to have eclipses, we'd have something else. I don't think the fact that it coincides with life means anything in particular.
Thats bad logic. There's an infinite number of potential outcomes that could happen from rolling a die an infinite number of times. So when I roll the die and I get "6" 10,000 times in a row, you either conclude its a loaded die or I'm cheating you. No one concludes, "well there's an infinite number of possibilities, this one is as likely as any other."
Can you, you know, name any of those potential improbable attributes that are comparable? Or are you just doing the thing people do these days and just counter argue with no real backing?
@@kaufmanat1 How is that even remotely applicable to the odds of sapient life and perfect eclipses coinciding? We have confirmed maybe 200-ish known moons, give or take a couple dozen, in the entire universe. We've confirmed roughly 4,000 exoplanets, and confirmed 0 exomoons. We have nowhere near enough information yet to start assessing how likely large-relative-to-their-planet moons are yet. And that's before getting to how extremely limited and new we still are at searching for sapient extraterrestrial life. 100-200 years of emerging interstellar searching and signalling is still just the blink of an eye.
I've always understood the anthropic principle as the idea that an observer can only exist in a universe where its existence is possible. Hence why it's not surprising we find this universe has laws which allow our form of life to exist.
@@smolder6366 why are they intelligible, non-contradictory. It`s obvious they`re written by humans but they reflect a real structure which existence is by no means necessary
Our large moon creating the ocean tides is one reason we had life evolve to exist in and out of water, and then out of water altogether. So maybe the two coincidences of our existence and our eclipses are somewhat related. Liquid water, large moon causing tidal changes, forcing life to adapt at the shoreline, exploring the shoreline, venturing onto land...
The "habitable zone" maybe also play a part here. I don't know much about it, but if the idea of a habitable zone also overlaps the zone where perfect eclipses are more likely (due to ratios of planet sizes to orbits), that could also help explain why we exist in two highly improbable scenarios; because the conditions for both are very similar.
Life started in tidal pools and that may be the only place life can start. The planet has to have a magnetic field like that of the Earth to protect against radiation. We need Jupiter and other large planets to soak up most of the rocks flying through space... Lots of things probably has to be just a certain way for life to be possible on any planet.
This man is good though, no joke, every video of his I watch I learn something new. I like that. I like when people teach me things I never knew before. My man Joe does a good job.
I agree, completely. Although I learned absolutely nothing from reading your comment. But in consolation, you sure did learn something from reading mine; you're a boring moron.
I agree. Anton petrov is great as well as (if you have a really open mind) Robert Sepehr is interesting but he does color outside the lines so to speak.
I dreamed about my high school crush after not communicating with her for ~20 years. A couple of days later i found out that she passed away on the same day as my dream. I just think it is weird as hell. Thanks for the cool videos
Let's just put it this way we are not too late to see an eclipse the moon has been doing this since its conception/formation of it. It's just now it does it just completely black out an entire area. I love the the slit experiment you can do in the partial solar eclipse to see the eclipse with out those glasses....
Exactly. This isn’t a coincidence, it’s literally inevitable. Any planet that revolves around a star and has a moon will eventually experience the right conditions for a full eclipse. All you have to do is wait.
@@apple54345 -- oh but so much fun to pile onto...it's like swimming in a sea of ignorance. Just let your imagination run wild and play along -- then pull the old whack-a-mole on 'em!
The death in the dream thing isn’t just coincidence IMO. My dad woke up at 3am out of a dead sleep and he knew his friend was dead. Tried to get ahold of him. No luck. Found out next morning his friend had died around 3am in a motorcycle accident.
The Moon was not always at this distance from Earth. Humans are observing this phenomena at the right time in the evolution of our planet in relation to the moon.
Yes, but that''s kinda the point though. If live evolved slower or faster we might be observing it in a different way or not at all. But it evolved at exactly the right speed for us to observe and understand the significance of the event. That just makes it even more unlikely.
@@KingofCabal Improbable things happen. I'm definitely enjoying the mental image though of friendly extraterrestrials wanting to visit and see our solar eclipses alongside us, and hear about all the different stories and mythologies our species has come up with around the phenomenon. Right now we've only confirmed about 200 moons in this entire universe, 0 of which are exomoons. We are currently still so limited to our own backyard.
@@patrickmulopo7957 All of that isn't really weird. If none of those things happened, we wouldn't be here to ask these questions, so those are essential for life to exist. An eclipse, however, is not essential to life, its just a cool optical effect, which makes that particular coincidence that much more interesting.
A solar eclipse highlights 2 very necessary things for complex life: the earth being in the "goldilocks" zone, and the earth having a moon that's just the right size and position to stabilize the climate.
Life probably starts in tidal pools. So moon is probably needed for that reason. Earth's magnetic field is needed to protect against crazy amounts of radiation. Jupiter and other large planets soak up most of the rocks that could hit Earth because of their stronger gravity.
Thank you for saying, "Pun intended." It really bugs me when people drop an obvious pun then say, "Pun not intended." Stop that, people! Own your puns!
Is the Scott equation missing a variable, specifically if there is an intelligence on the planet to observe this effect? I only bring it up cuz Joe said, “If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, did it really fall?” Side note: doesn’t the phrase actually end saying, “…did it make a sound?”
I think it's more likely that for life to spawn on a planet, a moon would need to orbit about as far as it is here. Allowing for stability. So that life then grows and notices the coincidence. Also could be that those two things aren't actually rare at all. We dont know of that many moons around other planets. So tidal locking, distancing and even life may be ample throughout our galaxy.
My son and I drove to Grand Island, Nebraska to be in the path of totality. The experience was something neither of us will ever forget! I was expecting to "See" it, but, the "Feel" of it was even better.
I'm glad you hit the "woo woo alarm", (although I can see you were hesitant) and... you will need to hit it again, because there are even more lunar coincidences. If you do some research on the size of the moon, (specifically it's diameter in miles (2160)), with regard to the size of the Earth (and it's diameter in miles(7920)), you will find there exists a geometric pattern which is incredibly precise - especially if you scale it down to feet and inches. (It is a 3 to 11 ratio that relates to squaring the circle) Also Mascons - huge lumps of concentrated mass just beneath the moons surface, strong enough to affect the orbits of satellites. They obviously affect the orbit of the moon and it's trajectory. How did they get there, and why is there no physical evidence of their impacts? Did they all arrive at once, or over thousands of years, randomly smashing into the moon until it's orbit lined up perfectly to create the eclipse you are talking about so eloquently? :-/ Here is an analysis of information from the GRAIL Lunar Gravity Mission, which sent satellites to study the Mascons in 2012: www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2012/12110923-grail-results.html Interestingly, at the end of the article the author comments how they can tell that after the moon had cooled, it later grew by a few km in size, its crust cracked, and then those cracks were filled in with extremely dense lava. Lastly, I happen to own a topographic moon globe, and have noticed that the moon is also positioned so that it's most perfectly round profile is facing the Earth. There is a large crater on the side not facing us, called the Aitken Basin. If the moon were rotated just 90 degrees, this basin would be in profile and produce a slight indented curve on it's silhouette, but... it isn't positioned that way at all, and is actually positioned just right to create a perfect circle for us watching from below. So many coincidences - thought provoking to say the least.
There are hundreds of million years in total that the moon could cause an eclipse like this. If we developed like a hundred million years later, it would still happen. Also, if the sun and moon were the *exact* same apparent shape, a solar eclipse would be instant bc there’s an exact moment they would line up. The moon might have happened to be a decently large size because of how 2 rocky planets collided a very long time ago. So it’s not as crazy as you might want to think. After all, solar eclipses don’t happen much
Technically the moon doesn't always cover the sun perfectly, as Thunderfoot said in his creationist series the moon varies in distance by a large margin making the moon sometimes larger than the sun by 10% to smaller than the sun by 20%. This is why they labeled the lunar eclipse this year as a super blue blood moon, a lunar eclipse occurred at the same time the moon was at it's closest possible position.
@Sam Williams Yea I hate thunderfoot vidoes. It drove me insane that youtube was recommending them. I just down voted everyone I saw to try to get him off my recommendations.
"What are the odds of a single planet having not one but two improbable events st the same time" Might be pretty good actually. If there are an infinite amount of improbable events then the odds that two occur within the same system increases to the point of absolute certainty. 1-(1-p)^inf = 1
@Zardav K His statement has more chances to be true than yours, since you are doing one more unproven assumption. Since the question has been formulated in such a vague way, it has mislead your thoughts. It contains 3 variables: a. Number of planets. At the time the question was asked, the definition of planet should roll out the dwarf planets but, even with this in mind, that number is huge, maybe infinite. Therefore, 1st assumption. b. Number of improbable events. There is not a fixed definition of improbable event at the time of the question. We are not talking about perfect eclipses or life happening in a given planet, but events as they are. The simplest assumption would be an even distribution of the probability. This is, events under 50% chances to happen are improbable. Given that, at a quantum level at least, events under a 50% chance are happening constantly, this number must be huge, if not infinite. 2nd assumption. c. Number of time units that events on planets span along the total time in which any event can occur on average, since we need a coincidence to count as a chance. Theoretically, when no events at all happen, the definition of time breaks down, as everything would be always in the same instant (the mere fact of you realising nothing has changed is an event). Strange as it sounds, events can last the smallest unit of time (alpha particles escaping atom nucleus) or all the time (not easy examples, but expansion of the universe seems to have been there for a while). Thus, the average of "quick" events potentially counteracts the large ones, resulting in 50% of the total time that there has been/is/will be. So this premise can be discarded. 3rd assumption. Easily, we can say that, following the Okham knife rule, the odds are equal to a times b, with a result very close to the certainty that 2 improbable events occur in a single planet at the same time. Your mistake is introducing the assumption that the improbable events have to be in an undefined category that, by the way, could also be in a huge number or infinite, giving the same result. English is not my language, hope it's understandable.
I heard a fun theory that the entire moon vibrates for extended periods every time we drop fuel tanks or rockets into it because it's hollow, and it's hollow because it's a spacecraft we used to get here from somewhere else, like a dying Mars maybe. We parked it in the right position and orbit for perfect solar eclipses so we'd notice how wrong it is and return to the ship later when we redeveloped the technology. I think it added the tidal lock to its version of your equation, so it would be even less likely and I think was used to claim that the entrance is on the dark side. Just gotta go back there with a flashlight and we'll have ourselves a free space station I guess.
My fist time here, I love the info, curiosity, enquiry, presentation and humour - great job all round. I have considered many of these fact myself, with less data, and it is great to have an in depth peek into the nerdy mind of probability. Also I love the Woo Woo button, people without Woo Woo in their lives are seriously missing out.
The universe is not "perfect". In fact I could call this one a coincidence on its own. The universe is full of coincidences and this doesn't really seem like much concrete evidence at all, if any.
Well, today i came across some skid marks on a country highway, and they veered towards the woods along the road. I told my 12 year old son that maybe it was Batman going into the bat cave. About a half hour later, we passed a car in a small town with the license plate BATCVE. Coincidence?
The answer to the question “are we living in a simulation?” is the same as the one about a deity. Any entity that can create a simulation such as our reality logically was possibly itself created and is itself a simulation. Turtles all the way down.....
You did a great job of presenting an argument that both God, Bible-believing Creationists and Big Bang evolutionist scientists can grasp. Well done, Joe. As a statistician, I find that when there is an infinitesimally small probability of something that has happened, then there must be an unknown factor involved.
I think he's using it in a relative way. An infinitesimal is essentially zero as far as we are concerned, when we have a number that is so small that we can't really resolve it from zero in any practical way, then although the use of "infinitesimal" to describe it is technically incorrect, it becomes a way to express it as being "so small it may as well be zero". For example. the chances of a single electron quantum tunnelling a light year away in a one second time frame is also ludicrously small, it's not infinitesimal, but it may as well be for our purposes. So yes, he's using the word wrong as per definition, but how many other words do we use out of definition all the time and nobody bats an eye about it?
"unknown factor" is called "god of the gaps" -- whenever simple people don't understand something it "must" be god. 3,500 hundred years ago, men actually believed that god lived on the mountain tops, then we climbed the mountains and discovered he wasn't there. Ironically his whole video disproves any notion of what the bible teaches, so your comment makes no sense at all.
Actually this makes people believe. It is one of the hundreds of exact fine-tuning aspects that show life to be so unlikely it shows someone has an interest in us. Why is it counted as intelligence? because it has allowed astronomy to make large advancements that would not have been incredibly difficult without this aspect.
You forgot one factor in your equation, the distance between the planet and the sun in relation to the suns size. In the outer solar system, the sun is not an significant enough light source that its eclipse would at dominating a phenomenon.
The Moon is 400x smaller than the Sun, and the Sun is 400x farther away than the Moon. Rare? Sure, possibly. But think of all the other "rare" things that could have happened that don't here. What would we be saying if any of these things happened where life also happened to occur? - If the Moon just happened to be on the ecliptic giving us a solar and lunar eclipse every month. - If Earth just happened to have visible rings. - If one of our poles just happened to point directly toward the Sun. - If the Moon just happened to be the same mass as the Earth, making us a binary system. - If our solar system had two stars and Earth had two Moons, and they just happened to eclipse the stars perfectly at the same time occassionally. - If the Earth and the Moon just happened to be mutually tidally locked (during the time we are living). - If the number of moons we had was the same as the number of planets in our solar system. - [insert seemingly rare or improbable occurrence here] So we check a couple boxes off of things that are "improbable." That's fine and all, but really my question would be, "What are the odds that on an endless list of improbable things that could happen, none of them would happen?"
Standing ovation, that was phenomenal. I've been wanting to get some ideas together for a concise counterpoint list to people who go "Goddidit"/"Aliensdidit" about solar eclipses and jump into preaching, thank you!
The more 'rare' things, the better. =) The fact we have a perfect size fit solar eclipse, or even the capacity for such at the right timing for the only intelligent life we know of, is an incredible sign for God. Dismissing such perfect geometry as 'meh coincidence whatever nothing special, let's just go back to jerking off to whatever' is silliness.
@@notionSlave First, let me clarify that I'm not dismissing solar eclipses as a "meh coincidence." I'm dismissing them as an AWESOME coincidence! 😁 Of all the things that are and aren't in the universe, why should a "perfect size fit solar eclipse" be an "incredible sign for God"? And that's ignoring the fact that it's not even always a perfect size fit--sometimes it covers less of the sun's disk (annular), and sometimes it covers more. You also say solar eclipses are happening "at the right timing for the only intelligent life we know of," but solar eclipses have been happening long before humanity and will very likely continue long after humanity. Furthermore, the fact that we are intelligent (by our own definition) is the reason that we're even able to observe solar eclipses and call them a coincidence, so that's pretty self-fulfilling. My point here is not to say whether God does or doesn't exist. I respect your right to believe whatever you want to believe, but it's not "silliness" to introspect and recognize the human tendency toward self-centeredness and confirmation bias, then use that information to come to rational conclusions.
@@DM-fe2bc Of all the things that are and aren't in the universe, why should a "perfect size fit solar eclipse" be an "incredible sign for God". The capacity for such a perfect eclipse to just HAPPEN to occur in front of our own earth, and for it to actually happen UNIQUELY for our planet perfectly, is a clear sign of God's preciseness.
@@notionSlave I hear what you're saying, but they're not "perfect" every time, and it doesn't happen "uniquely" for Earth. Total solar eclipses happen on other planets in the solar system even. In fact, it happens in any planetary system where a satellite crosses the plane of its planet's ecliptic. Solar eclipses happen when this intersection occurs directly between the planet and the star. The frequency with which this occurs depends on several factors. For earth, because of the orbital periods of the Earth and Moon, and the incline of the Moon's orbit, this happens about twice a year. What makes this an incredible sign for God any more than any other coincidence?
I was humming a song to myself in the shower this morning, and when I turned on my music player later in the day, that song was the first one to play. I have a several thousand songs in my library. Like you said, with enough time and enough variables, those crazy kinds of stories are just odds and coincidences waiting to happen. Jmho.
Funny thing is, the more faith you have the more often that stuff happens to you. The other day I was playing a song on piano at my brother's house, drove home to the next town and the birds were singing the same melody outside my window.
I think it would be more logical to think of the Universe as a process of symmetry forming and breaking! Such a process would form entropy or disorganization with a built in potential for ever greater symmetry formation. Life and solar eclipses would represent that greater symmetry.
I love this explanation of the universe, but I want to know more. Like what happened before the Big Bang, and how will our universe look in the distant future. If there was a for sure theory on both of these it might satisfy my curiosity.
Emye DaOne... Actually, most people find explosions fascinating and beautiful even if they are destructive and dangerous. throwing a grenade onto the man's home would be a waste of a good explosion, throwing it into a pond of gasoline on the other hand would *create* some petty cool emotions. Also, check out the work of CAI Guo-Qiang, he also uses explosives to make art.
The probability of any unlikely thing is by definition unlikely. However, the probability that 'some' unlikely thing will happen is almost 100% when you don't care what the thing is. If you factor in all the other things in all of science that aren't coincidental, the fact that this one unlikely thing happens isn't (statistically) very weird.
As unlikely a total eclipse is, I have experienced 2 without planing it. The first one was like 30 years ago when I was a kid living in my home country. It passed over the city I grew up in. Now I live in the US for graduate studies and the city I live in is in the path of this total eclipse. I know it may not mean anything special, but it is kind of cool. I am one of the few humans that can brag about having seen 2 total eclipses without chasing them.
If you flipped a coin and got a heads, every single time, ten times in a row, it would be unbelievable... Right? Impossible. Right? But if you had a room full of 1048 people, the odds are that it would happen to one of them every single time you tried it.
@@mohommadhabibi4616 Not sure if you understood the point. There's a difference between what actually happens and probability. If you actually ran the experiment, you wouldn't be guaranteed to get one person who got heads every single flip for 10 flips in a row, it's just that the *odds are* that you would, since you are running a 50% chance twice. That's not the same as saying that you will actually get that result, just that the "simple" probability is very high that you will get that result. Probability is not a guarantee, it is a just the chance that something might happen given a large number of iterations. Any time you bring an experiment down to the individual result level, you're going to have room for the RNG to play. It's really more an examination of how we perceive chance vs the way things happen in reality. Just as it's entirely possible to have the scenario you have described, where the actual result fails because two 50% chances returned a fail, it's also entirely possible that you have multiple individuals in the same scenario that got the aforementioned 10 flips in a row, all coming up heads. It's only when you look at it macroscopically that you see enough uniformity in the results to say something like 'you have essentially a 100% chance' in this scenario. Here's a fun question - would the results change if you had people stop flipping when they got a tails vs if they continued flipping, but you only had the filter based on the results? Again, this is a demonstration of the way our brains perceive probability vs the way it actually works. And in the end, it's all about that one person from the test who actually got 10 flips in a row that are heads. If a person said that they had done that, we would shake our heads in amazement and say that is ridiculous, it's basically impossible. Odds are probably a million to one.... except they aren't. The odds that you would do that as a prediction for the next 10 coin flips is extremely tiny. But the odds that this could happen in the scenario described above is extremely large. Finding things that are extremely unlikely to occur is sometimes a lot less unusual than they seem to be.
We notice these coincidences, because they rarely happen. But there are a lot more coincidences, that do not happen. The propblem is: We cannot define those, because they did not happen ... Eeehm .. Am I making sense ?
What are the chances that there is a planet in the universe where life arises, its moon is the perfect size to cause a total eclipse, intelligent life evolves, they develop language, some of them have the name Bob, others have the name John Smith, the moon moves away from the planet at about 2 feet per year aaaaaand pizza is a delicious meal????!!! OMG God exists! It's impossible for this to happen! Seriously now, when you start stacking probabilities the only reason things start to get improbable is because you're just describing your surroundings. There are probably plenty of planets with life which have different natural phenomenon that we couldn't imagine. We have a solar eclipse. That's great, but our Cthulian neighbors might have something even more fantastic and improbable.
VejyMonsta "there are probably plenty of players with life". How is that "probably". We have no way to know one way or the other. You're making an appeal to the unknown that it likely fits your assumptions... without evidence... just because. You're akso making the sane logical error that negative theologians make: we don't know x, x is therefore unimaginable, I imagine the unimaginable x is like y, now let's build whole ideas on that and mock people who don't agree. Your whole position is pure wishful thinking and Scifi fantasy. We'll know when we know, and until it's not something anyone can use to prove or disprove anything else like you are.
@@BoldValiant You can be an all-powerful being over a universe, but it does not make you an all-powerful being over the multiverse. I can manipulate, or outright shut off, the life simulation that is my current playthrough of Rimworld. I am essentially that playthrough's deity (though I am distinctly not supernatural). That means jack for my status in the universe I exist in, much less the likely-greater multiverse. Creator status is also an interesting question, as I didn't actually create the game. But I am running this copy. I make all the decisions in this particular playthrough. Who is the actual creator then? Am I just a steward, or an operator? Is the decision-maker (if there is one) of our universe just a steward running the simulation that some other being actually created? Is Allah/God/Yahweh just a steward "god", perhaps even just a gamer in that universe, running a simulation that someone else actually created for him to play around on? Would he admit it if he were? Or would he indulge in the roleplay... Any creator of our simulation, if we are one, is very likely not supernatural either. And just as bound by the laws of physics as I (though likely has significantly more control over them).
I remember where I was and what I was doing 2.5 years ago. Was at a local textile plant taking care of the grounds there. We were in a bit of a bowl, so when the eclipse went full it felt like I was in a bubble. Another way to put that feeling is if you have ever fiddled around with UDK level creator, if you delete the ground and just look around, basically felt like that.
I believe in coincidences, so I can live with the fact that the moon is 400 times smaller than the sun and the sun is 400 times further from earth than the moon
To use probability as an argument is actually an logical fallacy, and the reasoning for me disliking this video. I believe it's called "Appeal to probability". It doesn't matter what the probability is for anything, as you can find equally/more/less as probable things that haven't happened, and one of the things had to happen, and it just so happens to be the reality we're living in that did happen.
Yup Luckyshot, everything that happens is just a coincidence. There is no reason, no deeper meaning, nothing to ponder about. Other things could have happened, but they didn't
The possibilities within our universe are so vast, that eventually repeating patterns of impossibilities will be found to be common place. I do believe in a simulation theory, but we, or our universe are not it. Thankyou for another great video Joe ❤️👍
I'm wearing my tinfoil beanie all day today. I'm pretty sure the government's mind control system recalibrates today using the reflectors on the moon while everyone is focused on them at the same time... Oh, and I'm going to make my own derivation of the Scott Equation some day. Genius use of N sub (fill in the blank). Be sure to look up today so the boys in control can make sure you are performing as they see fit.
You sure it's perfect? The Sun is pretty far away so there would be lots of room for the moon to be a bit closer or further away without us being able to see any noticeable differences. Right?
Thank you for bringing up the improbable fact that the sun and the moon are the same size in the sky!! I mentioned it when the eclipse happened and I was rewarded with blank stares.
You ASSUME life is rare. It's a VAST universe; you have absolutely no clue how rare or common life might actually be. Secondly, eclipses happen ALL THE FUCKING TIME! They happen approx. every 18 months on Earth alone. And that's not counting lunar eclipses. We've also witnessed plenty of eclipses on other planets. Virtually every planet that has a moon(s) will experience eclipses. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY RARE that a given moon bearing planet would NOT experience eclipses. As for the moon/abiogensis connection, who knows. But you're definitely wrong about your first two points.
Even if there were one million other moons comparable to ours in the galaxy, all accompanying one million planets with organic life at some phase in their evolutionary development, I don't see how that makes it any less special. That's still pretty damn amazing/miraculous in my opinion.
So, even with Joe, I trust with my own verification when it comes to youtube and other mutterings on the web. Is it really that unusual? From my own investigations... yup, it's rare. Ridiculously extraordinary - bordering on rolling double sixes dozens of consecutive times. Joe actually comes close to understating how rare our solar-lunar alignment is. Surprised me, because I never actually thought much about this topic.
Note that he also understands that if you rolled two dice a bazillion times you probably would get your double sixes. Improbabilities over bazillions of instances results in improbable occurrences. Theoretically (statistically?) I suppose, as we don't really have the capacity to observe bazillions of instances of the things of which we speak..
We've confirmed roughly 200 moons in the entire universe. We've confirmed over 4,000 exoplanets. Of our 200-odd confirmed moons, 0 are exomoons. So we've rolled less than 300 moon dice so far out of bazillions, and our roll of the "intelligent life" dice is still completely unknowable right now. 100-200 years broadcasting and looking is the.blink of an eye, we have no idea at all yet of what the odds are for either factor. The solar eclipse thing and us evolving within the timespan to enjoy it are neat coincidences, but there's plenty of other neat coincidences that we could have had instead. Or in addition to. Again, such a small sample size. I'm still enjoying the idea of friendly extraterrestrials wanting to come witness our solar eclipses and hear about the stories and mythologies our species had made around the phenomenon. Might even become a space tourism economy option for us, though that of course comes with many potential problems.
It’s either suspicious that the moon perfectly counterweights the earth and the impact that made the moon gave the earth a fast spin or we wouldn’t be here if the moon wasn’t here.
@@alexbowman7582bahahahaha you just gave me a good laugh bro I envisioned dinosaurs and whatnot being magnetically pulled off the face of the earth and being burned up in the atmosphere
Exactly 1 Time in my 55 years I woke up having gotten over a relationshipI never thought I would get over. Exactly 1 morning in my life, my current girlfriend said out of the blue (zero hints from me) that she was in my dream last night and described how I broke up with my old GF. (who she didn't even know existed) Guess what morning that was. Sorry, that's not a coincidence. Dreamt 1 in 20,075 nights. Described 1 in 20,075. ODDS those days line up: 1 in 400 million.
You're Right ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. I read about a Brown Bear named Wojtec who served in the Polish Army in WW2 in an artillery battalion as a ammo carrier. Therefore ANYTHING can happy
@@sbearly Yes Sean .On an atomic level,WHERE DOES "Sean "Begin" and "End"?Since you're just a SEA of atoms. Yet you are personal, individual,distinct as a person from your connected carbon,oxygen, nitrogen,hydrogen,phosperous calcium atoms. You're MORE than the sum of your parts.
Its probably for selfish reasons, but I hope so. I want to see my loved ones in the afterlife and I also hope they're in a better place instead of just disappearing from existence. But that's a different conversation and beyond the point I'm about to make. With that said, if we are in a simulation, wouldnt there need to be a designer and doesnt everything we observe suggest he/she/it is intelligent? I hope we're not a simulation, but I cant look at this objectively and not see contradiction in "intelligent design = intelligent designer... not simulation"
I believe.."if a tree fell in the forrest, and no one was there to hear it, does it still make a sound?" Is the correct question, but i could be wrong..
The probability that the moons orbit crosses the orbital plane is essentially 1. The only time it wouldn't is when the nodal precession period of the moon is equal to the orbital period of the parent, which is called sun-synchronous on Earth. The problem is that sun synchronous orbits are not stable, a moon won't be in that orbit long, if ever. I haven't done the math, but i suspect you can't have a sun synchronous orbit that is above the Roche limit of the parent body, so any moon at this orbit would be torn apart anyway.
because this guy is talking about how this perfectly natural phenomena, however improbable, could be caused by some supernatural being...... even though such a being's existence would raise more questions than it would answer.
Because the whole simulation hypothesis basically implies an entity above this world, a creator or an architect, which you may have also heard under the name "God". You may disagree as you want but ultimately it's indistinguishable from the other. It's funny, people have been religious since ancient times, then science came in and has been slowly eroding people's believes in deity. But then we started discovering stranger and stranger things in the underlying physics and it seems that our world may be composed of nothing but some strange math. And so it came to pass, that today many of the scientists are seriously toying with the idea that our universe is a simulation, run by some intelligence outside of our reality. Depending on how such a simulation would be set up, we may either eventually find a proof, or at least a strong hint that it's true, or it may just be that it is impossible to prove it from within the simulation, meaning we will never know whether it's true or not. Which is how it always has been with deities. You can't ever prove their non-existence.
Red_Doggo the idea of living in a simulation comes with the concept that all you know is wrong. This fundamentally triggers defense mechanism in people who will either defend the idea of a god or not. As this is the primordial question we pose while living, along others like; are we alone in the universe; is death the end; are we free. All question that there won’t ever be answers to, ultimately making any discussion an exercise in futility just so one can flex their argumentative skills. Hope this clarifies your question and have you looking beyond; god or no god but rather the meta idea that believing or not leads to
Are we living in a simulation? It makes me smile that the same faith it takes to believe in a diety is the same faith it takes to believe we exist inside a computer simulation. There's no way to prove or disprove either proposition, but people who believe in a deity are considered naive and gullible.
@@OnPointFirearms yeah but simulation makes it seem like they can "do what thou wilt". People hate God because he has standards. People denying God are just like children holding their breath throwing a tantrum! God bless us all
Well, simulation is a fringe scientific theory, there's lots of other theories and I think it is generally acknowledged as pretty far-fetched though not impossible. But the basis and efforts at supporting that theory are undertaken with scientific process. Religion on the other hand has no basis other than growing up with some pedophile in a robe telling you that you have to believe or burn in hell based on a book of fiction made up by other creepy grandpas. Generally speaking for religions that have a deity. The other religions that were just too ridiculous to stand the test of time (and science!) are now appropriately referred to as mythology. As will christianity and islam and their like within some small number of generations. Of course the church as an institution will live on in some way cause that's just the business of taking money and less tangible assets from morons.
"coincidence" and "somehow happened" is a great way to avoid mentioning creationism. However if we are living in simulation I guess that is a form of creationism so, nevermind.
I'm not religious, and don't really have any belief in any sort of afterlife. Even so, I had one of those strange dream occurrences...sort of. When I was 16 or 17 years old (I could do the math but meh) my Grandmother was in the hospital dying of cancer and of course my parents were spending a lot of time at her bedside. So on the night she passed away that's where they were, and I was home. The room my brother and I shared was in the basement, but that night I fell asleep on the couch in the living room upstairs. At some point late in the night I got up from the couch for no apparent reason, walked out to the kitchen in the darkness and reached out to flip the light switch - but in my still-mostly-asleep state I missed the switch and instead I hit something hanging on the wall near it and that thing fell to the floor next to the oven. Then, I turned around and went back to the couch and back to sleep. My parents arrived back home early the next morning and informed us that Grandma had passed. My mom went to the kitchen and turned on the light and noticing the item on the floor she said "oh what happened here?" I went out to have a look and then I kinda remembered and said "ah, I accidently knocked that off the wall when I got up for some reason last night." She picked the item up, and it turned out it was this small wooden cutting board thing that had two little figures on it...an old man and woman. The old woman was the only broken bit... Now like I say, I don't particularly believe in ghosts and an afterlife and all that, but I do appreciate a good weird story, and there was a lot of "weird" about that night. I almost never slept up there. I don't sleep walk. Just the oddness of getting up, walking to the kitchen and knocking that thing off the wall and then just going back to to bed...it was very strange. And then the fact that only the little granny figure was damaged. Flukey. I often wonder if there's any chance I hit that tchotchke at the exact moment my Gran passed away. Cue Twilight Zone theme... Anyway, love the channel!
It's like standing in the middle of the Sahara desert, and someone has to hit you on the head with a tennis ball, dropped from a high altitude balloon from the edge of space.
@@SJ-cl4wq The ancient Jews had a grammatical number for creation, the sun was number 400, the difference between the sun and the moon 🌒 during and eclipse.
He just describes what he has absorbed in a simple way. I read New Scientist, Reddit futurology and Science and know about all of these topics too. You just have to know where to look and what to read to stay up to date with science.
That's what happens to anyone who takes the time to research! It takes a lot of time and effort to look smart. In other words, appreciate the time he took to make these instead of just calling him smart.
Somebody wins the lottery all the time. This is said to be astronomically improbable. I've lived in a forest most of my life and I see astonishing improbable events take place in nature almost every day! I propose the truly impossible is that the improbable never happens.
We aren't living in a simulation. Instead, you are all a figment of my imagination. Nobody in this world is real except me and one day I will wake up and realize that I was better off taking the red pill.
Scientists say the moon is slowly moving away from earth, we just happen to live in the time when the moon almost perfectly covers the sun during eclipse.
@@marccolten9801 One weird coincidence does not outweigh countless other indications that we don't live in a designed universe. Magic is not real, we live in real life, not a fantasy novel.
I lived in a dead serial killer's home, where he killed young women. There is something after death. It's really weird when you encounter it. I got freaked and moved. I've lived across the country, and never had this problem. Only in the house that had a body in the attic and a tons of murder/torture evidence. Still gives me nightmares.
In which case, if it was substantiated, the next question is how did the designer come to exist. And so on.. You can always concoct a metaphysical deity out of thin air to dismiss the question and end the conundrum, but it doesn't actually answer the question. And let's say a metaphysical deity did create the universe. What would be the significance of that?
"You wanna line up the sun and the moon just to mess with them?"
"...yep"
It’s the sun, the moon, AND the earth...
@@paddor Nope, since we're the target of the simulation, hence our existence at this part is defined.
In the era of the dinosaurs, the Moon was closer and would have blotted out the Sun's disk and its corona.
In the future, it will be further away and won't cover the Sun's disk.
It's just happened in time for us to be here to witness it.
We also have a bible, the most popular book on earth, written 2,000-6,000 years ago, and it states that 666 is the mark of the beast right? If all beasts are carbon based, and the isotope carbon 12 (99.97% of all carbon) is 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons. Was this a hint at the simulation yet again? "Let he who has wisdom calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of man, the mark of the beast"
here's another, if you follow this rule of 1=A, 2=B, 3=C, 4=D, 5=E, so on and so on, and you consider this: GOD, G=7 O=15, D=4, 7 x 15 x 4 = 420, : ), weed has certainly taught me a lot I'll say that.
what about the pyramid of giza's coordinates matching up with the speed of light? it's down to the 4th decimal i believe, that's astronomically rare too.
@@euclideanplane 616 not 666
Trying to make sense of the moon is just lunacy.
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Sample at the beginning
David Renton nice
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The moon is not what it’s cracked up to be. If you have Facebook, watch this. facebook.com/100001612693261/posts/2868318066565255/?d=n
This is an EX-PARROT!
If it's a simulation the person who coded me needs to be fired for incompetence.
With this mentality,you will go even below what you are right now.
Only thing that you need to do is marry someone that can change your life.🤣
@@SJ-cl4wq That's the stupidest advice anyone has ever given.
@@bodhisattva9762 It depends.If you are surrounded by stupid people,there is no way you can understand my comment.
Of course for you,my comment will feel stupid and all that's okay.
I know many examples who have 180° change in life direction despite struggling before marriage.
Reminder that if we make contact with alien races and eventually we get extraterrestrial tourism, the eclipse will be a HUUUUGE tourist trap
Ryukachoo, well if that does come to pass it would not hurt to clear out your spare room and turn it into a hotel room of sorts..... Just like with the last Olympics in Rio, thousands of people cleared out their spare rooms because kidnapping is the most common crime there and they wanted to make some easy money! Is that true? Yeah, yeah..... No.
...and I thought all the traffic just driving up to Oregon was bad...and we lucked out by having a friend live there! ...how far in advance are you supposed to book a room for interstellar travel?
Ryukachoo what chance would it be if they had malicious intents.
Yay now i have hopes of future employment
you americans will sell any shit)
Scientist that make our Simulatuons be like:
"Oh no! They're becoming self aware!"
Nana Nanana Hello scientists watching us I'm breaking the fourth wall!
why oh no? more like oh yes look at thos dumb f88s
we are watching you *_*
if they didnt like it they would have just resetted us they wanted us to believe we live in simulation they are enjoying our progress that's why we are still here so.. yeah
We can't do shit even if we find out that the simulation theory were true
There is one little detail missing... It is NOT the case that the Sun is EXACTLY as much further away from the Earth than the Moon as it is bigger and hence their apparent sizes matching exactly. The Earth is in an elliptic orbit around the Sun so the Sun appears bigger and smaller in the sky at different times of the year. The Moon in turn is in an elliptic orbit around the Earth so its size also appears bigger and smaller throughout the lunar month. All in all, depending on the position of the Earth in its elliptic orbit around the Sun and of the Moon in its elliptic orbit around the Earth, the apparent diameter of the Moon can look from 13% smaller to 8% bigger than the Sun''s. That is a 20+ % range end to end. A lot. So the real question is what are the odds that the RANGE of relative sizes of the moon(s) and sun(s) for any given planet include a case where both look equal. The more elliptic the planet and moon(s) orbits, the more likely that the "equal apparent size" condition will be within the range of relative sizes.
He answered that question as when the apparent sizes of the sun and moon don't exactly match as either an occultation or a transit. The ARE times in the elliptical orbit however when they exactly match
We really love to make a big deal out of random things, don't we.
great point
The really weird part is the same side of the moon always face the earth. Explain the mechanics of that!
@@M13x13M ... Are you serious or is it a joke? We (humans) absolutely understand the mechanics of why the time it takes the Moon to complete 1 rotation on its axis matches the time it takes the Moon to complete 1 revolution around the Earth. It is called "Tidal lock" and it is a common thing in the Universe. It is the same reason why Earth's rotation is also slowing down (yes, days are getting longer every year, a measurable amount but still too small to notice it except with precise instrumentation), and if the Sun lived long enough (it will not), eventually we would have the same face of the Earth facing the Sun all the time. It is called "TIDAL LOCK". Google it. Or wikipedia it.
I think you have missed a few factors.
When the moon is at it's closest to earth and the sun is at it's furthest, the moon appears 12% larger than the sun (Moon having a size of 33 arc-minutes and 14 arc-seconds, the sun having 29 arc-minutes and 41 arc-seconds). When the opposite is true, i.e. moon is at it's further and the sun is at it's closest, the sun appears 4% larger than the moon.
I believe you gave the impression to the audience that the moon fits perfectly in front of the sun, it doesn't. It is almost never exactly the same size. If I were a designer of the system I would have made it exactly the same size or at least a lot closer than what it actually is. Why make it about the right size if there was a grand designer?
Secondly, a total solar eclipse is one that blocks out the sun such that all of or part of the corona is visible as an apparent annulus around the moon. Considering the corona is very large, the moon can be much larger than it's current size and still fulfill the requirements of a total solar eclipse. e.g. if we use the average distance of the moon and average distance of the sun, the moon could be twice as big as it is now and it would:
a. Block out the sun and some of the corona
b. Leave plenty of corona remaining to view as an apparent annulus around the moon.
This also means the "magic number" or ratio is not a constant but a range of values. just like the Goldilocks zone is not a single distance but a range of distances away from the sun.
I'd like to point out the latest solar eclipse shows the moon can also be too small to block out the sun completely leaving a 'ring of fire'. See eclipse of 26 Dec 2019
@The Truth of the Matter Not sure if you're speaking to the author of the video or you have difficulty reading, the comment clearly mentions the corona. If you're trying to correct the word 'corona' to 'Corona' then you would be the ''dumbass'. The corona is part of the sun, a Corona is a brand of beer. *The more you know*
Boooom science
Joe states "The solar eclipse as we experience it..." - that's the crucial part I believe - it's not that the moon exactly covers the sun all the time (as you prove, it doesn't), it's how we experience the solar eclipse that's the important part - from our perspective, the moon does cover the sun exactly, which is highly improbable. A designer would only need to design the eclipse so the moon appears to cover the sun from our perspective, which is what happens.
@@HermeticWorlds The calculations presented in the comment are indeed from an earth perspective and hence as we experience it. The moon does not cover the sun exactly from our perspective.
If it’s a simulation they forgot to update the anti virus software 💪
Now with Huwan Corona Virus.
@@growbydoing7290 It's Wuhan
Matthew e Yet when I’ve said the correct spelling my comments get deleted. Try adding virus to your spelling. Got two accounts shadow banned so far. Lol
They use Microsoft what did you expect....lol 😂
What if the Anti Virus software was running already, and its destroying everything so it will never be like this again.
There are a potentially infinite number of improbable attributes that our planet could have, so if we didn't have the ability to have eclipses, we'd have something else. I don't think the fact that it coincides with life means anything in particular.
@Chris67 my thoughts exactly
Thats bad logic. There's an infinite number of potential outcomes that could happen from rolling a die an infinite number of times. So when I roll the die and I get "6" 10,000 times in a row, you either conclude its a loaded die or I'm cheating you. No one concludes, "well there's an infinite number of possibilities, this one is as likely as any other."
Can you, you know, name any of those potential improbable attributes that are comparable? Or are you just doing the thing people do these days and just counter argue with no real backing?
@@kaufmanat1 How is that even remotely applicable to the odds of sapient life and perfect eclipses coinciding? We have confirmed maybe 200-ish known moons, give or take a couple dozen, in the entire universe. We've confirmed roughly 4,000 exoplanets, and confirmed 0 exomoons. We have nowhere near enough information yet to start assessing how likely large-relative-to-their-planet moons are yet. And that's before getting to how extremely limited and new we still are at searching for sapient extraterrestrial life. 100-200 years of emerging interstellar searching and signalling is still just the blink of an eye.
@@aste4949 they're both statistical anomalies... How's that not obvious? What point are you getting at?
I've always understood the anthropic principle as the idea that an observer can only exist in a universe where its existence is possible. Hence why it's not surprising we find this universe has laws which allow our form of life to exist.
How is it not surprising that the universe has any laws governing it. The idea is odd in itself.
@@McRingil like why would it have laws in the first place? Who wrote them?
@@smolder6366 why are they intelligible, non-contradictory. It`s obvious they`re written by humans but they reflect a real structure which existence is by no means necessary
Omg
Such smart comment made by you eclipsed by stupid asking who wrote the laws
Our large moon creating the ocean tides is one reason we had life evolve to exist in and out of water, and then out of water altogether. So maybe the two coincidences of our existence and our eclipses are somewhat related. Liquid water, large moon causing tidal changes, forcing life to adapt at the shoreline, exploring the shoreline, venturing onto land...
this is actually a very good point
The "habitable zone" maybe also play a part here. I don't know much about it, but if the idea of a habitable zone also overlaps the zone where perfect eclipses are more likely (due to ratios of planet sizes to orbits), that could also help explain why we exist in two highly improbable scenarios; because the conditions for both are very similar.
What? Are you saying the moon does not cause the tides? How is that likely? We know the moon causes the tides...
Life started in tidal pools and that may be the only place life can start. The planet has to have a magnetic field like that of the Earth to protect against radiation. We need Jupiter and other large planets to soak up most of the rocks flying through space... Lots of things probably has to be just a certain way for life to be possible on any planet.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 life as we know it
This man is good though, no joke, every video of his I watch I learn something new. I like that. I like when people teach me things I never knew before. My man Joe does a good job.
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I agree, completely. Although I learned absolutely nothing from reading your comment. But in consolation, you sure did learn something from reading mine; you're a boring moron.
@@sunnyjim1355 and you sound like a useful idiot 🥰
kinda gay
I agree.
Anton petrov is great as well as (if you have a really open mind) Robert Sepehr is interesting but he does color outside the lines so to speak.
I dreamed about my high school crush after not communicating with her for ~20 years. A couple of days later i found out that she passed away on the same day as my dream. I just think it is weird as hell.
Thanks for the cool videos
Law of Attraction
Spooky action at the distance. Quantum entaglement.
@@ivan-Croatian Quantum creepiness 🤣
Because "love entanglement" is a real phenomena.
A very, very dull form of telepathy.
But sorry for your loss of the friend.
That would make me wonder for years.
The moon is continuing to move further away over time. We just happen to be alive at the right time.
THIS. Fucksake. The comments surrounding this are retarded af.
Let's just put it this way we are not too late to see an eclipse the moon has been doing this since its conception/formation of it. It's just now it does it just completely black out an entire area. I love the the slit experiment you can do in the partial solar eclipse to see the eclipse with out those glasses....
Yes, during the course of my life, the moon is 5 feet farther away. Glad we can still see it!
Exactly. This isn’t a coincidence, it’s literally inevitable. Any planet that revolves around a star and has a moon will eventually experience the right conditions for a full eclipse. All you have to do is wait.
@@apple54345 -- oh but so much fun to pile onto...it's like swimming in a sea of ignorance. Just let your imagination run wild and play along -- then pull the old whack-a-mole on 'em!
The death in the dream thing isn’t just coincidence IMO.
My dad woke up at 3am out of a dead sleep and he knew his friend was dead. Tried to get ahold of him. No luck. Found out next morning his friend had died around 3am in a motorcycle accident.
Way to prove the opposite point of what you were trying to do.
Seeing patterns where there are none, our brains are excellent at that.
Cognitive Dissonance when information contradicts our worldview, our brains are excellent at that too :D
Its basicly what science does all day, looking for patterns. And we are good at that.
Evers Humor what are you guys replying to? The OP is just a bunch of letters.
Or do the patterns find our brains? Because you know......Jesus.
abschussrampe we see patterns were we think these may exist and then proceed to prove them, that's what we do lol
Actually, not to be a nerd or anything (only because Greek is my native language), Έκλειψις means for something to be "missing", not "abandoned". ;-)
You mean the internet lied to me!?!?!?
Yes! I have corrected Joe Scott! I can die peacefully now. I will patreonise you a bit more when I will be a patreon subscriber
(see what I did there)
Did the meaning shift since ancient Greek?
Cuz you know, Joe remembers the old tongue 🤪🙃
@@rickjones871 or he like, looked it up somewhere (the internet?)
The Moon was not always at this distance from Earth. Humans are observing this phenomena at the right time in the evolution of our planet in relation to the moon.
That's exactly what the simulation wants you to believe.
Yes, but that''s kinda the point though. If live evolved slower or faster we might be observing it in a different way or not at all. But it evolved at exactly the right speed for us to observe and understand the significance of the event. That just makes it even more unlikely.
@@ariansanders5140 time didn't really exist before life did to grant the waveform locality
@@KingofCabal Improbable things happen. I'm definitely enjoying the mental image though of friendly extraterrestrials wanting to visit and see our solar eclipses alongside us, and hear about all the different stories and mythologies our species has come up with around the phenomenon.
Right now we've only confirmed about 200 moons in this entire universe, 0 of which are exomoons. We are currently still so limited to our own backyard.
@@patrickmulopo7957 All of that isn't really weird. If none of those things happened, we wouldn't be here to ask these questions, so those are essential for life to exist. An eclipse, however, is not essential to life, its just a cool optical effect, which makes that particular coincidence that much more interesting.
A solar eclipse highlights 2 very necessary things for complex life: the earth being in the "goldilocks" zone, and the earth having a moon that's just the right size and position to stabilize the climate.
Life probably starts in tidal pools. So moon is probably needed for that reason. Earth's magnetic field is needed to protect against crazy amounts of radiation. Jupiter and other large planets soak up most of the rocks that could hit Earth because of their stronger gravity.
Thank you for saying, "Pun intended." It really bugs me when people drop an obvious pun then say, "Pun not intended." Stop that, people! Own your puns!
John Bainbridge Is your avatar a green smiling propane tank?
@@daerdevvyl4314 It's a turquoise Lego head.
John Bainbridge That’s your reality, but don’t deny my lived experience of seeing a green propane tank!
@@daerdevvyl4314 Fair. What even is turquoise, amiright?
Is the Scott equation missing a variable, specifically if there is an intelligence on the planet to observe this effect? I only bring it up cuz Joe said, “If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, did it really fall?”
Side note: doesn’t the phrase actually end saying, “…did it make a sound?”
Yes …”did it make a sound?” Is correct. Glad I wasn’t the only one who caught it.
The odds of life and the solar eclipse is 100 percent. Because I just watched one.
Wow, I didn't know Drake has made contribution to science aside from the hip-hop
Yeah Drake is super intelligent boy!
I don't think it's the same one.
As evidence for it see scsm definition.
Yeah, I guess he got bored with making snack cakes.
Yes, indeed he surmised that the square root of 69 is actually “ate somethin” ... the Drake equation I believe.
Lol Joe is talking about astronomer Frank Drake though
I think it's more likely that for life to spawn on a planet, a moon would need to orbit about as far as it is here. Allowing for stability. So that life then grows and notices the coincidence. Also could be that those two things aren't actually rare at all. We dont know of that many moons around other planets. So tidal locking, distancing and even life may be ample throughout our galaxy.
My son and I drove to Grand Island, Nebraska to be in the path of totality. The experience was something neither of us will ever forget! I was expecting to "See" it, but, the "Feel" of it was even better.
I'm glad you hit the "woo woo alarm", (although I can see you were hesitant) and... you will need to hit it again, because there are even more lunar coincidences. If you do some research on the size of the moon, (specifically it's diameter in miles (2160)), with regard to the size of the Earth (and it's diameter in miles(7920)), you will find there exists a geometric pattern which is incredibly precise - especially if you scale it down to feet and inches. (It is a 3 to 11 ratio that relates to squaring the circle)
Also Mascons - huge lumps of concentrated mass just beneath the moons surface, strong enough to affect the orbits of satellites. They obviously affect the orbit of the moon and it's trajectory. How did they get there, and why is there no physical evidence of their impacts? Did they all arrive at once, or over thousands of years, randomly smashing into the moon until it's orbit lined up perfectly to create the eclipse you are talking about so eloquently? :-/
Here is an analysis of information from the GRAIL Lunar Gravity Mission, which sent satellites to study the Mascons in 2012:
www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2012/12110923-grail-results.html
Interestingly, at the end of the article the author comments how they can tell that after the moon had cooled, it later grew by a few km in size, its crust cracked, and then those cracks were filled in with extremely dense lava.
Lastly, I happen to own a topographic moon globe, and have noticed that the moon is also positioned so that it's most perfectly round profile is facing the Earth. There is a large crater on the side not facing us, called the Aitken Basin. If the moon were rotated just 90 degrees, this basin would be in profile and produce a slight indented curve on it's silhouette, but... it isn't positioned that way at all, and is actually positioned just right to create a perfect circle for us watching from below.
So many coincidences - thought provoking to say the least.
@@thevulture5750 that's not how 'coincidences' work in nature
@@thevulture5750 im pretty sure everyone knows "jesus is the son of god" i dont think you had to clarify man 😂
@@thevulture5750 I’m glad u believe that man just try not to force ur beliefs on other ppl
There are hundreds of million years in total that the moon could cause an eclipse like this. If we developed like a hundred million years later, it would still happen. Also, if the sun and moon were the *exact* same apparent shape, a solar eclipse would be instant bc there’s an exact moment they would line up.
The moon might have happened to be a decently large size because of how 2 rocky planets collided a very long time ago. So it’s not as crazy as you might want to think. After all, solar eclipses don’t happen much
Technically the moon doesn't always cover the sun perfectly, as Thunderfoot said in his creationist series the moon varies in distance by a large margin making the moon sometimes larger than the sun by 10% to smaller than the sun by 20%. This is why they labeled the lunar eclipse this year as a super blue blood moon, a lunar eclipse occurred at the same time the moon was at it's closest possible position.
@Sam Williams Yea I hate thunderfoot vidoes. It drove me insane that youtube was recommending them. I just down voted everyone I saw to try to get him off my recommendations.
I've experienced 2 full solar eclipses in my life. I am rather fortunate :)
FeedMe fuck off
You say fortunate, I say "inevitable". :)
"What are the odds of a single planet having not one but two improbable events st the same time"
Might be pretty good actually. If there are an infinite amount of improbable events then the odds that two occur within the same system increases to the point of absolute certainty.
1-(1-p)^inf = 1
@Zardav K His statement has more chances to be true than yours, since you are doing one more unproven assumption.
Since the question has been formulated in such a vague way, it has mislead your thoughts. It contains 3 variables:
a. Number of planets. At the time the question was asked, the definition of planet should roll out the dwarf planets but, even with this in mind, that number is huge, maybe infinite. Therefore, 1st assumption.
b. Number of improbable events. There is not a fixed definition of improbable event at the time of the question. We are not talking about perfect eclipses or life happening in a given planet, but events as they are. The simplest assumption would be an even distribution of the probability. This is, events under 50% chances to happen are improbable. Given that, at a quantum level at least, events under a 50% chance are happening constantly, this number must be huge, if not infinite. 2nd assumption.
c. Number of time units that events on planets span along the total time in which any event can occur on average, since we need a coincidence to count as a chance. Theoretically, when no events at all happen, the definition of time breaks down, as everything would be always in the same instant (the mere fact of you realising nothing has changed is an event). Strange as it sounds, events can last the smallest unit of time (alpha particles escaping atom nucleus) or all the time (not easy examples, but expansion of the universe seems to have been there for a while). Thus, the average of "quick" events potentially counteracts the large ones, resulting in 50% of the total time that there has been/is/will be. So this premise can be discarded. 3rd assumption.
Easily, we can say that, following the Okham knife rule, the odds are equal to a times b, with a result very close to the certainty that 2 improbable events occur in a single planet at the same time.
Your mistake is introducing the assumption that the improbable events have to be in an undefined category that, by the way, could also be in a huge number or infinite, giving the same result.
English is not my language, hope it's understandable.
Remember, except when the Moon is in the Earth's shadow, the Moon is always eclipsing the Sun. You're just not standing in the right place.
I heard a fun theory that the entire moon vibrates for extended periods every time we drop fuel tanks or rockets into it because it's hollow, and it's hollow because it's a spacecraft we used to get here from somewhere else, like a dying Mars maybe. We parked it in the right position and orbit for perfect solar eclipses so we'd notice how wrong it is and return to the ship later when we redeveloped the technology.
I think it added the tidal lock to its version of your equation, so it would be even less likely and I think was used to claim that the entrance is on the dark side. Just gotta go back there with a flashlight and we'll have ourselves a free space station I guess.
DoctorDistracto No.
Thanks for clarifying, I obviously posted that because I thought it was true.
DoctorDistracto You’re welcome. I’m like a RUclips Lone Ranger, travelling from video to video righting wrongs.
My fist time here, I love the info, curiosity, enquiry, presentation and humour - great job all round. I have considered many of these fact myself, with less data, and it is great to have an in depth peek into the nerdy mind of probability. Also I love the Woo Woo button, people without Woo Woo in their lives are seriously missing out.
The universe is not "perfect". In fact I could call this one a coincidence on its own. The universe is full of coincidences and this doesn't really seem like much concrete evidence at all, if any.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest
I would love to see the calculation of the probability of the dream-death coincidence vs. the (estimate) of actual occurences.
Well, today i came across some skid marks on a country highway, and they veered towards the woods along the road. I told my 12 year old son that maybe it was Batman going into the bat cave.
About a half hour later, we passed a car in a small town with the license plate BATCVE. Coincidence?
The answer to the question “are we living in a simulation?” is the same as the one about a deity. Any entity that can create a simulation such as our reality logically was possibly itself created and is itself a simulation.
Turtles all the way down.....
You did a great job of presenting an argument that both God, Bible-believing Creationists and Big Bang evolutionist scientists can grasp. Well done, Joe.
As a statistician, I find that when there is an infinitesimally small probability of something that has happened, then there must be an unknown factor involved.
Are you using the term "infinitesimally" correctly?
it looks French so must be correct (yes i'm French)
I think he's using it in a relative way. An infinitesimal is essentially zero as far as we are concerned, when we have a number that is so small that we can't really resolve it from zero in any practical way, then although the use of "infinitesimal" to describe it is technically incorrect, it becomes a way to express it as being "so small it may as well be zero". For example. the chances of a single electron quantum tunnelling a light year away in a one second time frame is also ludicrously small, it's not infinitesimal, but it may as well be for our purposes. So yes, he's using the word wrong as per definition, but how many other words do we use out of definition all the time and nobody bats an eye about it?
"unknown factor" is called "god of the gaps" -- whenever simple people don't understand something it "must" be god. 3,500 hundred years ago, men actually believed that god lived on the mountain tops, then we climbed the mountains and discovered he wasn't there. Ironically his whole video disproves any notion of what the bible teaches, so your comment makes no sense at all.
Actually this makes people believe. It is one of the hundreds of exact fine-tuning aspects that show life to be so unlikely it shows someone has an interest in us. Why is it counted as intelligence? because it has allowed astronomy to make large advancements that would not have been incredibly difficult without this aspect.
You forgot one factor in your equation, the distance between the planet and the sun in relation to the suns size. In the outer solar system, the sun is not an significant enough light source that its eclipse would at dominating a phenomenon.
That’s crazy Drake is good at rapping AND math. I love him more now.
We're also in the middle of two dust clouds in the Milky Way, allowing us a perfect view of the universe. Add that to your overall Drake equation.
the annoying thing about liking a video with 1K likes on it is that it still just shows 1K, like why did I bother? :D
Bendy Bruce Because it counts.
you might the lucky guy who pips it to 2K, then you feel amazing
mouse over the little bar under the likes before and after if that helps
'Cuz the thumb turns blue.
@@liquidKi Turning a thumb blue is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
"The forest heard the tree fall." -Chris Dahler.
"Because I want my name on something, dammit." -Joe Scott
The Moon is 400x smaller than the Sun, and the Sun is 400x farther away than the Moon. Rare? Sure, possibly. But think of all the other "rare" things that could have happened that don't here. What would we be saying if any of these things happened where life also happened to occur?
- If the Moon just happened to be on the ecliptic giving us a solar and lunar eclipse every month.
- If Earth just happened to have visible rings.
- If one of our poles just happened to point directly toward the Sun.
- If the Moon just happened to be the same mass as the Earth, making us a binary system.
- If our solar system had two stars and Earth had two Moons, and they just happened to eclipse the stars perfectly at the same time occassionally.
- If the Earth and the Moon just happened to be mutually tidally locked (during the time we are living).
- If the number of moons we had was the same as the number of planets in our solar system.
- [insert seemingly rare or improbable occurrence here]
So we check a couple boxes off of things that are "improbable." That's fine and all, but really my question would be, "What are the odds that on an endless list of improbable things that could happen, none of them would happen?"
Standing ovation, that was phenomenal. I've been wanting to get some ideas together for a concise counterpoint list to people who go "Goddidit"/"Aliensdidit" about solar eclipses and jump into preaching, thank you!
The more 'rare' things, the better. =) The fact we have a perfect size fit solar eclipse, or even the capacity for such at the right timing for the only intelligent life we know of, is an incredible sign for God. Dismissing such perfect geometry as 'meh coincidence whatever nothing special, let's just go back to jerking off to whatever' is silliness.
@@notionSlave First, let me clarify that I'm not dismissing solar eclipses as a "meh coincidence." I'm dismissing them as an AWESOME coincidence! 😁
Of all the things that are and aren't in the universe, why should a "perfect size fit solar eclipse" be an "incredible sign for God"? And that's ignoring the fact that it's not even always a perfect size fit--sometimes it covers less of the sun's disk (annular), and sometimes it covers more.
You also say solar eclipses are happening "at the right timing for the only intelligent life we know of," but solar eclipses have been happening long before humanity and will very likely continue long after humanity. Furthermore, the fact that we are intelligent (by our own definition) is the reason that we're even able to observe solar eclipses and call them a coincidence, so that's pretty self-fulfilling.
My point here is not to say whether God does or doesn't exist. I respect your right to believe whatever you want to believe, but it's not "silliness" to introspect and recognize the human tendency toward self-centeredness and confirmation bias, then use that information to come to rational conclusions.
@@DM-fe2bc Of all the things that are and aren't in the universe, why should a "perfect size fit solar eclipse" be an "incredible sign for God". The capacity for such a perfect eclipse to just HAPPEN to occur in front of our own earth, and for it to actually happen UNIQUELY for our planet perfectly, is a clear sign of God's preciseness.
@@notionSlave I hear what you're saying, but they're not "perfect" every time, and it doesn't happen "uniquely" for Earth. Total solar eclipses happen on other planets in the solar system even. In fact, it happens in any planetary system where a satellite crosses the plane of its planet's ecliptic. Solar eclipses happen when this intersection occurs directly between the planet and the star. The frequency with which this occurs depends on several factors. For earth, because of the orbital periods of the Earth and Moon, and the incline of the Moon's orbit, this happens about twice a year. What makes this an incredible sign for God any more than any other coincidence?
I was humming a song to myself in the shower this morning, and when I turned on my music player later in the day, that song was the first one to play. I have a several thousand songs in my library.
Like you said, with enough time and enough variables, those crazy kinds of stories are just odds and coincidences waiting to happen. Jmho.
Funny thing is, the more faith you have the more often that stuff happens to you. The other day I was playing a song on piano at my brother's house, drove home to the next town and the birds were singing the same melody outside my window.
These odds are insane. I accept the argument that it's random chance but still the odds are crazy high
I think it would be more logical to think of the Universe as a process of symmetry forming and breaking! Such a process would form entropy or disorganization with a built in potential for ever greater symmetry formation. Life and solar eclipses would represent that greater symmetry.
The Universe is made of stuff, the dynamics of that stuff has symmetries, continuous symmetries imply conservation laws, so there you have it
Joe Brooks Are you joking? The universe is full of symmetry, including the planet Earth.
I love this explanation of the universe, but I want to know more. Like what happened before the Big Bang, and how will our universe look in the distant future. If there was a for sure theory on both of these it might satisfy my curiosity.
YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST................ AND BACK TO SCHOOL............
Emye DaOne... Actually, most people find explosions fascinating and beautiful even if they are destructive and dangerous.
throwing a grenade onto the man's home would be a waste of a good explosion, throwing it into a pond of gasoline on the other hand would *create* some petty cool emotions.
Also, check out the work of CAI Guo-Qiang, he also uses explosives to make art.
So... I'm high right now. That aside... We may very well all appear in each others dreams all the time and never know it.
The end.
The probability of any unlikely thing is by definition unlikely. However, the probability that 'some' unlikely thing will happen is almost 100% when you don't care what the thing is. If you factor in all the other things in all of science that aren't coincidental, the fact that this one unlikely thing happens isn't (statistically) very weird.
Hmm, it’s almost like the earth and universe was created??🧐🤨
ruclips.net/video/iFEBOGLjuq4/видео.html
So, they set up this whole simulation and then Leap Year?
As unlikely a total eclipse is, I have experienced 2 without planing it. The first one was like 30 years ago when I was a kid living in my home country. It passed over the city I grew up in. Now I live in the US for graduate studies and the city I live in is in the path of this total eclipse. I know it may not mean anything special, but it is kind of cool. I am one of the few humans that can brag about having seen 2 total eclipses without chasing them.
Me too. Both in 1999 and 2017. First one in Austria second in usa
The moon is slowly moving away from the earth. I assume this will affect eclipses at some point.
Damaged Provider Module he mentions that in the video.
600 million years or so and we will no longer have total solar eclipses
@@whimsy5623 lol
Humanity will have ended by then sweety.
This channel is amazing; funny and informative at the same time
If you flipped a coin and got a heads, every single time, ten times in a row, it would be unbelievable... Right?
Impossible. Right?
But if you had a room full of 1048 people, the odds are that it would happen to one of them every single time you tried it.
512 matches...256,128,64,32,16,8,4,2..... And the last match both get tails.
@@mohommadhabibi4616 Not sure if you understood the point. There's a difference between what actually happens and probability. If you actually ran the experiment, you wouldn't be guaranteed to get one person who got heads every single flip for 10 flips in a row, it's just that the *odds are* that you would, since you are running a 50% chance twice.
That's not the same as saying that you will actually get that result, just that the "simple" probability is very high that you will get that result. Probability is not a guarantee, it is a just the chance that something might happen given a large number of iterations. Any time you bring an experiment down to the individual result level, you're going to have room for the RNG to play.
It's really more an examination of how we perceive chance vs the way things happen in reality.
Just as it's entirely possible to have the scenario you have described, where the actual result fails because two 50% chances returned a fail, it's also entirely possible that you have multiple individuals in the same scenario that got the aforementioned 10 flips in a row, all coming up heads. It's only when you look at it macroscopically that you see enough uniformity in the results to say something like 'you have essentially a 100% chance' in this scenario.
Here's a fun question - would the results change if you had people stop flipping when they got a tails vs if they continued flipping, but you only had the filter based on the results?
Again, this is a demonstration of the way our brains perceive probability vs the way it actually works.
And in the end, it's all about that one person from the test who actually got 10 flips in a row that are heads.
If a person said that they had done that, we would shake our heads in amazement and say that is ridiculous, it's basically impossible. Odds are probably a million to one.... except they aren't.
The odds that you would do that as a prediction for the next 10 coin flips is extremely tiny. But the odds that this could happen in the scenario described above is extremely large.
Finding things that are extremely unlikely to occur is sometimes a lot less unusual than they seem to be.
We notice these coincidences, because they rarely happen.
But there are a lot more coincidences, that do not happen.
The propblem is: We cannot define those, because they did not happen ...
Eeehm .. Am I making sense ?
What are the chances that there is a planet in the universe where life arises, its moon is the perfect size to cause a total eclipse, intelligent life evolves, they develop language, some of them have the name Bob, others have the name John Smith, the moon moves away from the planet at about 2 feet per year aaaaaand pizza is a delicious meal????!!!
OMG God exists! It's impossible for this to happen!
Seriously now, when you start stacking probabilities the only reason things start to get improbable is because you're just describing your surroundings. There are probably plenty of planets with life which have different natural phenomenon that we couldn't imagine. We have a solar eclipse. That's great, but our Cthulian neighbors might have something even more fantastic and improbable.
VejyMonsta yes what if it doesn't and we are really living in simulation.
God : An all powerful being. Doesn't the creator of a simulation qualify ?
VejyMonsta "there are probably plenty of players with life".
How is that "probably". We have no way to know one way or the other.
You're making an appeal to the unknown that it likely fits your assumptions... without evidence... just because. You're akso making the sane logical error that negative theologians make: we don't know x, x is therefore unimaginable, I imagine the unimaginable x is like y, now let's build whole ideas on that and mock people who don't agree.
Your whole position is pure wishful thinking and Scifi fantasy. We'll know when we know, and until it's not something anyone can use to prove or disprove anything else like you are.
@@BoldValiant You can be an all-powerful being over a universe, but it does not make you an all-powerful being over the multiverse.
I can manipulate, or outright shut off, the life simulation that is my current playthrough of Rimworld. I am essentially that playthrough's deity (though I am distinctly not supernatural). That means jack for my status in the universe I exist in, much less the likely-greater multiverse. Creator status is also an interesting question, as I didn't actually create the game. But I am running this copy. I make all the decisions in this particular playthrough. Who is the actual creator then? Am I just a steward, or an operator? Is the decision-maker (if there is one) of our universe just a steward running the simulation that some other being actually created? Is Allah/God/Yahweh just a steward "god", perhaps even just a gamer in that universe, running a simulation that someone else actually created for him to play around on? Would he admit it if he were? Or would he indulge in the roleplay...
Any creator of our simulation, if we are one, is very likely not supernatural either. And just as bound by the laws of physics as I (though likely has significantly more control over them).
I remember where I was and what I was doing 2.5 years ago. Was at a local textile plant taking care of the grounds there. We were in a bit of a bowl, so when the eclipse went full it felt like I was in a bubble. Another way to put that feeling is if you have ever fiddled around with UDK level creator, if you delete the ground and just look around, basically felt like that.
...Did the tree really fall, I would say YES. Did it make a noise, that's debatable :)
It made a noise, but did it make a sound? :-)
lol I caught that too
No because it takes up to much hard drive space.
The question isn't asked to be answered; it's asked to be pondered
Conservation of energy would suggest yeah, there probably were sound waves produced by the collision of the tree with the ground
I believe in coincidences, so I can live with the fact that the moon is 400 times smaller than the sun and the sun is 400 times further from earth than the moon
did he just make that up? 400 seems a little bit light to me
There is only one true creator, our beloved Flying Spaghetti Monster
fricky11111 I think it's 390%
To use probability as an argument is actually an logical fallacy, and the reasoning for me disliking this video. I believe it's called "Appeal to probability". It doesn't matter what the probability is for anything, as you can find equally/more/less as probable things that haven't happened, and one of the things had to happen, and it just so happens to be the reality we're living in that did happen.
Yup Luckyshot, everything that happens is just a coincidence. There is no reason, no deeper meaning, nothing to ponder about. Other things could have happened, but they didn't
The possibilities within our universe are so vast, that eventually repeating patterns of impossibilities will be found to be common place.
I do believe in a simulation theory, but we, or our universe are not it. Thankyou for another great video Joe ❤️👍
I'm wearing my tinfoil beanie all day today. I'm pretty sure the government's mind control system recalibrates today using the reflectors on the moon while everyone is focused on them at the same time... Oh, and I'm going to make my own derivation of the Scott Equation some day. Genius use of N sub (fill in the blank). Be sure to look up today so the boys in control can make sure you are performing as they see fit.
you go you you do you
You sure it's perfect? The Sun is pretty far away so there would be lots of room for the moon to be a bit closer or further away without us being able to see any noticeable differences. Right?
Thank you for bringing up the improbable fact that the sun and the moon are the same size in the sky!! I mentioned it when the eclipse happened and I was rewarded with blank stares.
Life is rare
Eclipses are rare
Maybe there's a connection between abiogenesis and proportionally large moons?
it's a sign from god!!!!!
jk
You ASSUME life is rare. It's a VAST universe; you have absolutely no clue how rare or common life might actually be. Secondly, eclipses happen ALL THE FUCKING TIME! They happen approx. every 18 months on Earth alone. And that's not counting lunar eclipses. We've also witnessed plenty of eclipses on other planets. Virtually every planet that has a moon(s) will experience eclipses. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY RARE that a given moon bearing planet would NOT experience eclipses.
As for the moon/abiogensis connection, who knows. But you're definitely wrong about your first two points.
It’s almost like all of creation is perfectly and finely tuned. Hmmm
Haha haha haha, those nutbars eh.
@@mavrosyvannah cant keep them away.
Even if there were one million other moons comparable to ours in the galaxy, all accompanying one million planets with organic life at some phase in their evolutionary development, I don't see how that makes it any less special. That's still pretty damn amazing/miraculous in my opinion.
So, even with Joe, I trust with my own verification when it comes to youtube and other mutterings on the web. Is it really that unusual?
From my own investigations... yup, it's rare. Ridiculously extraordinary - bordering on rolling double sixes dozens of consecutive times. Joe actually comes close to understating how rare our solar-lunar alignment is. Surprised me, because I never actually thought much about this topic.
So rare , maybe it's for a reason. Maybe we are special.
Note that he also understands that if you rolled two dice a bazillion times you probably would get your double sixes. Improbabilities over bazillions of instances results in improbable occurrences. Theoretically (statistically?) I suppose, as we don't really have the capacity to observe bazillions of instances of the things of which we speak..
We've confirmed roughly 200 moons in the entire universe. We've confirmed over 4,000 exoplanets. Of our 200-odd confirmed moons, 0 are exomoons. So we've rolled less than 300 moon dice so far out of bazillions, and our roll of the "intelligent life" dice is still completely unknowable right now. 100-200 years broadcasting and looking is the.blink of an eye, we have no idea at all yet of what the odds are for either factor.
The solar eclipse thing and us evolving within the timespan to enjoy it are neat coincidences, but there's plenty of other neat coincidences that we could have had instead. Or in addition to. Again, such a small sample size.
I'm still enjoying the idea of friendly extraterrestrials wanting to come witness our solar eclipses and hear about the stories and mythologies our species had made around the phenomenon. Might even become a space tourism economy option for us, though that of course comes with many potential problems.
It’s either suspicious that the moon perfectly counterweights the earth and the impact that made the moon gave the earth a fast spin or we wouldn’t be here if the moon wasn’t here.
i just wonder how close to Earth the moon was if its moving away from us slowly.
Grant Dwyer close enough to speed up evolution with massive tides pulling animals out the sea constantly.
@@alexbowman7582bahahahaha you just gave me a good laugh bro I envisioned dinosaurs and whatnot being magnetically pulled off the face of the earth and being burned up in the atmosphere
Friendly correction from a native greek speaker! Ekleipsis(έκλειψης) = “to disappear” or “to cease to be visible”. Definitely not “abandon”
A 0.000000000001% chance, matched with another 0.000000000001% chance, is NOT just some coincidence.
I was there, and I got stuck in traffic for 10 hours. Still worth it.
Exactly 1 Time in my 55 years I woke up having gotten over a relationshipI never thought I would get over. Exactly 1 morning in my life, my current girlfriend said out of the blue (zero hints from me) that she was in my dream last night and described how I broke up with my old GF. (who she didn't even know existed) Guess what morning that was. Sorry, that's not a coincidence. Dreamt 1 in 20,075 nights. Described 1 in 20,075. ODDS those days line up: 1 in 400 million.
Joe at the beginning of the video; "Look at all this cool information!" - Joe at the end of the video; "So in essence, you're not special." 😂
There are actually three fantastic coincidences, the total eclipse, life and a technological civilization.
And your mom.
(This comment is not intended to be taken seriously.)
There's a *huge* difference between an 'inevitability' falling somewhere... and it falling on *you*.
I believe the universe is so unfathomably big that anything that can happen, will happen. Probably more than once.
You're Right ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. I read about a Brown Bear named Wojtec who served in the Polish Army in WW2 in an artillery battalion as a ammo carrier. Therefore ANYTHING can happy
Yah! And like everything is like connected to everything ya know?
@@sbearly Yes Sean .On an atomic level,WHERE DOES "Sean "Begin" and "End"?Since you're just a SEA of atoms. Yet you are personal, individual,distinct as a person from your connected carbon,oxygen, nitrogen,hydrogen,phosperous calcium atoms. You're MORE than the sum of your parts.
It's fathomly big. Finite and bounded.
DLicious----You MEAN there ARE More than ONE Donald Trumps?
"Ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of truth"
Intelligent design = Intelligent Designer....not simulation
Its probably for selfish reasons, but I hope so. I want to see my loved ones in the afterlife and I also hope they're in a better place instead of just disappearing from existence. But that's a different conversation and beyond the point I'm about to make. With that said, if we are in a simulation, wouldnt there need to be a designer and doesnt everything we observe suggest he/she/it is intelligent? I hope we're not a simulation, but I cant look at this objectively and not see contradiction in "intelligent design = intelligent designer... not simulation"
@@kyledupont7711 I'd like to know which one of those assholes designed me
I believe.."if a tree fell in the forrest, and no one was there to hear it, does it still make a sound?" Is the correct question, but i could be wrong..
If a tree falls in the woods and the pope doesn't hear it, is it still covered in bear poo?
I've been leaving under a rock and I knew about the Solar eclipse! And that rock is the Moon!!
I just heard they were going to reboot the system tomorrow.
Sure, but then they restore from backup.
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David Potter Perhaps that’s why we we experience deja vu.
The probability that the moons orbit crosses the orbital plane is essentially 1. The only time it wouldn't is when the nodal precession period of the moon is equal to the orbital period of the parent, which is called sun-synchronous on Earth. The problem is that sun synchronous orbits are not stable, a moon won't be in that orbit long, if ever. I haven't done the math, but i suspect you can't have a sun synchronous orbit that is above the Roche limit of the parent body, so any moon at this orbit would be torn apart anyway.
Why is everyone talking about god and jesus down here?
because this guy is talking about how this perfectly natural phenomena, however improbable, could be caused by some supernatural being......
even though such a being's existence would raise more questions than it would answer.
Because a lot of humanity has not evolved into intelligent beings yet.
Trolls?
Because the whole simulation hypothesis basically implies an entity above this world, a creator or an architect, which you may have also heard under the name "God". You may disagree as you want but ultimately it's indistinguishable from the other.
It's funny, people have been religious since ancient times, then science came in and has been slowly eroding people's believes in deity. But then we started discovering stranger and stranger things in the underlying physics and it seems that our world may be composed of nothing but some strange math. And so it came to pass, that today many of the scientists are seriously toying with the idea that our universe is a simulation, run by some intelligence outside of our reality. Depending on how such a simulation would be set up, we may either eventually find a proof, or at least a strong hint that it's true, or it may just be that it is impossible to prove it from within the simulation, meaning we will never know whether it's true or not. Which is how it always has been with deities. You can't ever prove their non-existence.
Red_Doggo the idea of living in a simulation comes with the concept that all you know is wrong. This fundamentally triggers defense mechanism in people who will either defend the idea of a god or not. As this is the primordial question we pose while living, along others like; are we alone in the universe; is death the end; are we free.
All question that there won’t ever be answers to, ultimately making any discussion an exercise in futility just so one can flex their argumentative skills.
Hope this clarifies your question and have you looking beyond; god or no god but rather the meta idea that believing or not leads to
(fi) ... the fraction of planets with intelligent beings capable of viewing the eclipse?
They still happen whether they are viewed or not
Your eclipse map showed it going across Mexico and Canada. Last I checked, they were different countries from the USA.
Are we living in a simulation? It makes me smile that the same faith it takes to believe in a diety is the same faith it takes to believe we exist inside a computer simulation. There's no way to prove or disprove either proposition, but people who believe in a deity are considered naive and gullible.
Kevin Coleman I'm glad you brought this up. Somehow, simulation theory isn't ridiculed as much as Faith in God.
We may live in a 3D projection of a non-material (spiritual) realm/dimension that is governed by God.
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@@OnPointFirearms yeah but simulation makes it seem like they can "do what thou wilt". People hate God because he has standards. People denying God are just like children holding their breath throwing a tantrum! God bless us all
I mean, an all powerful deity and a simulation can be part of the exact same story.
Well, simulation is a fringe scientific theory, there's lots of other theories and I think it is generally acknowledged as pretty far-fetched though not impossible. But the basis and efforts at supporting that theory are undertaken with scientific process. Religion on the other hand has no basis other than growing up with some pedophile in a robe telling you that you have to believe or burn in hell based on a book of fiction made up by other creepy grandpas. Generally speaking for religions that have a deity. The other religions that were just too ridiculous to stand the test of time (and science!) are now appropriately referred to as mythology. As will christianity and islam and their like within some small number of generations. Of course the church as an institution will live on in some way cause that's just the business of taking money and less tangible assets from morons.
Idk about you but I’m going to pretend I’m unaware of all of this as from now so they don’t kill me off
- *whistles minding my own business tune*-
My neighbor was observed whistling, and now someone is at his door asking for a sample of spit.
"coincidence" and "somehow happened" is a great way to avoid mentioning creationism. However if we are living in simulation I guess that is a form of creationism so, nevermind.
God made life only to wonder ar this extremely rare astronomical event.
The simulation idea is unfalsifiable isn't it?
No, it's easily verified - but as soon as someone verifies it, they are removed from the simulation by the
I'm not religious, and don't really have any belief in any sort of afterlife. Even so, I had one of those strange dream occurrences...sort of.
When I was 16 or 17 years old (I could do the math but meh) my Grandmother was in the hospital dying of cancer and of course my parents were spending a lot of time at her bedside. So on the night she passed away that's where they were, and I was home. The room my brother and I shared was in the basement, but that night I fell asleep on the couch in the living room upstairs. At some point late in the night I got up from the couch for no apparent reason, walked out to the kitchen in the darkness and reached out to flip the light switch - but in my still-mostly-asleep state I missed the switch and instead I hit something hanging on the wall near it and that thing fell to the floor next to the oven. Then, I turned around and went back to the couch and back to sleep. My parents arrived back home early the next morning and informed us that Grandma had passed. My mom went to the kitchen and turned on the light and noticing the item on the floor she said "oh what happened here?" I went out to have a look and then I kinda remembered and said "ah, I accidently knocked that off the wall when I got up for some reason last night." She picked the item up, and it turned out it was this small wooden cutting board thing that had two little figures on it...an old man and woman. The old woman was the only broken bit...
Now like I say, I don't particularly believe in ghosts and an afterlife and all that, but I do appreciate a good weird story, and there was a lot of "weird" about that night. I almost never slept up there. I don't sleep walk. Just the oddness of getting up, walking to the kitchen and knocking that thing off the wall and then just going back to to bed...it was very strange. And then the fact that only the little granny figure was damaged. Flukey. I often wonder if there's any chance I hit that tchotchke at the exact moment my Gran passed away. Cue Twilight Zone theme...
Anyway, love the channel!
We all live under a rock... the moon
"Simulation"? Back in the day we just called it "Creation", but--whatever!
For the sake of profanity.
It's like standing in the middle of the Sahara desert, and someone has to hit you on the head with a tennis ball, dropped from a high altitude balloon from the edge of space.
This is still possible than your crush saying you Yes after rejecting your proposal.
@@SJ-cl4wq The ancient Jews had a grammatical number for creation, the sun was number 400, the difference between the sun and the moon 🌒 during and eclipse.
I am always amazed at how smart this guy is whatever the topic. 👍
He just describes what he has absorbed in a simple way. I read New Scientist, Reddit futurology and Science and know about all of these topics too. You just have to know where to look and what to read to stay up to date with science.
People thought that Wolf Blitzer was bright, too...and then he went on 'JEPOARDY'
No,no, I'm sure he's sharper than a cable news Talking Head
That's what happens to anyone who takes the time to research! It takes a lot of time and effort to look smart. In other words, appreciate the time he took to make these instead of just calling him smart.
Icewind007 I appreciate the use of his intelligence to make these videos.
HA- "living under a rock"- like the moon!
Somebody wins the lottery all the time. This is said to be astronomically improbable. I've lived in a forest most of my life and I see astonishing improbable events take place in nature almost every day! I propose the truly impossible is that the improbable never happens.
We aren't living in a simulation. Instead, you are all a figment of my imagination. Nobody in this world is real except me and one day I will wake up and realize that I was better off taking the red pill.
The problem every solipsist like you have is when you meet another solipsist : who is whose figment of imagination . Decideability screws up solipsism
Karim Amin too bad when you die the rest of the world and people In it will continue to happen. So I guess this is not your imagination
Just what a figment of my imagination would say to convince me it was real.
Not Sure we are all in our very own separate universe. Once you realize that. The universe is yours
@@FiyaPowa1 Just stay the f out of mine
Scientists say the moon is slowly moving away from earth, we just happen to live in the time when the moon almost perfectly covers the sun during eclipse.
That's how it was designed.
@@marccolten9801 One weird coincidence does not outweigh countless other indications that we don't live in a designed universe. Magic is not real, we live in real life, not a fantasy novel.
@@Hamdad it's a joke.
It's a COUNTDOWN!
I lived in a dead serial killer's home, where he killed young women. There is something after death. It's really weird when you encounter it. I got freaked and moved. I've lived across the country, and never had this problem. Only in the house that had a body in the attic and a tons of murder/torture evidence. Still gives me nightmares.
Sounds like an argument for _intelligent design_ .
In which case, if it was substantiated, the next question is how did the designer come to exist. And so on.. You can always concoct a metaphysical deity out of thin air to dismiss the question and end the conundrum, but it doesn't actually answer the question. And let's say a metaphysical deity did create the universe. What would be the significance of that?
Designer is infinite like a circle
I.e. simulation