Thanks for videoing a door pop. It does get your attention. I got my private pilot certificate in an F33A. My instructor was threatening to do a door pop but I always caught him by pushing on the door before starting the take off roll. Good habit.
Scott, thank you for this video. I have never thought about which way to turn other than traffic pattern to get back to airport. Into the wind is absolutely the best outcome.
Partial Power EFATO is the most popular one to happen. I used to teach that one first. And teach a complete troubleshooting while keeping altitude slow flight style.. I used 500 agl after take off for Partial Power EFATO, later on The Turnback no power at 700-800 agle depending on winds, runway and climb angle.. .... Later on.. 12 knot partial crosswinds make ideal to practice turnbacks to opposite or side runway.
Good lesson. The door pop was a kick. Also, interesting engine failure. You're reminding me of other old adventures in that Citabria. The door pop reminded me of the last plane I ever flew, a Piper Cub. It was over Boulder at the height of the aspen season when all the trees turn color in the fall. If I had to have a "last day", that was a good one. I'll see those beautiful trees forever.
In my V35B I've practiced the takeoff engine failure with my instructor and we were shooting for best glide speed (~100 kts) in the turn back to the airport. I think we made it back to the runway each time from around 1200-1500 AGL and landed with the throttle @ idle. The 81 kts target speed seems slow to me but I see how that would give you more time in the air vs gliding distance.
Ashley- Glad you practice. A decision point of 1200-1500' has a lot of advantages. What I am trying to influence is to have folks set a decision altitude, below which you look ahead of you, above which you may have options. Know how your airplane behaves in this regime is preferable to learning it for real... the first time.
I do not get to keep up with the channel as much as I would like so tonight was trying to watch stuff I missed. For the last little bit have been wondering what happened to WB now I know...gonna miss that plane as it was my favorite. On to new adventures with 33C..
Thank you, Scott. Another great pick-up for instructing. I was looking for a good set up for a simulated partial engine failure on takeoff to teach aborting a takeoff. I instruct my students to verbalize all speeds and altitudes in each segment of the pattern and the four criteria for a stabilized approach. I’d like to come out and receive some instructing time with you.
I’m still trying to figure out all the V speeds in the bonanza. Would like to know the power settings, prop rpm etc, as well, for cruise climb decent, as well as for full flaps, gear and landing. Thank you.
Late reply but have you joined the American Bonanza Society? On their website under training they have the BPPP program. There’s a list of suggested PAC (Power Altitude Configuration) for all stages of flight, ie by the numbers. And they have an online video program first the BPPP and by the numbers flying. Highly recommended it. Rewatch a couple times per year.
@@Vejitasei I would join, but I do not have any access to any Bonanzas currently. I only fly the one that is on Microsoft flight simulator. There is one at an airport near me, a Debonair but it is rather expensive and the panel is far from upgraded. To me, it’s not worth the expense, if I’m flying with a panel, I used to fly with in the 1980s. Compared to a more upgraded panel and some of the warriors, Cessna’s and turbo arrow. The debonair requires knowledge through the Bonanza Society or a 5 to 10 hour check out. For the amount of time that I would rent that airplane on a yearly basis, it is not really worth it.
What differences do you see between air speeds of a36 and f33c for your engine failure on t/o procedure? It’s interesting to hear the different air speeds pilots have been taught. Range seems to be from 81 to 105. I was taught 95ias. Glad you are talking about this. Keep up the good work!
Mike- Thanks! The speeds are specific, not a range. Best Glide or Min Sink. You can fly in the range, but you give up- either distance or time in the air. The wing is the same between the A36 and the F33C-- But the F33C is lighter and 2 knots slower for glide (pretty hard to read). I haven't tested Min Sink in the F33C yet. But the point is, without power you really don't have enough energy to perform a good flair--- the descent rate is astonishing. So Beech as established an Emergency Speed--- check it out, its in the POH.
Be interested to see a video on min sink in the F33c. Numbers in the POH are great but only a starting reference for real world scenarios. The small details you can learn from other’s experiences just make the quiver of safety larger for us all. Keep teaching and we’ll keep learning. Thanks for what you do....
@@FlyWirescottperdue you probably dont want to put your phone number out there. But if you want to find me on Facebook and connect I would love to bend your ear about bonanzas for a couple minutes
Well... these videos aren't instruction... they are more like Demonstrations. I don't really do slips in complex airplanes with flaps. But I can do a video on Slips with the Stearman... I do those all the time!
No, go back and watch how long the exercise took. Mere seconds, not enough time for coarse pitch to make an impact. That's why Min Sink/Dmms is a better speed to fly. You don't need distance, you need time.
FlyWire- scott perdue Scott. Really interested in your technique for engine out. I was only taught to get best glide and at 1000 consider turning back to field. I like your method of hitting 80. Perhaps you could do a video just on that technique. I think it would be very helpful to us Bonanza pilots. Great job trying to keep us safe. 👍
Keep on going, Scott! I'm done. The accidents this past month, some involving Bones, have driven home the fact that we are making the same mistakes since the first pair of aircraft entered the same pattern over 100 years ago. Two deaths in Telluride, three close calls here in the last two days (I was on the ground at the FBO), tell me it's time. Two of the aircraft here had no less than three GoPro cameras each. The drivers said they didn't see each other. One driver admitted that he was "messing" with the cameras in the pattern. Even the remaining two former students of mine that are at the majors have stopped teaching. So much for "See and Avoid." Then there's the "UNFIT" accidents. Three Bone crashes in as many years have claimed people that I have known due to UNFIT.. All were big fans of yours. As am I. Godspeed, Scott.
Thanks for videoing a door pop. It does get your attention. I got my private pilot certificate in an F33A. My instructor was threatening to do a door pop but I always caught him by pushing on the door before starting the take off roll. Good habit.
I do one in all my Bonanza checkouts
Man that door pop is a little more violent than the old Archer. Bought a DA40 last month that we are loving but the Bo is my forever plane. Someday.
Scott, thank you for this video. I have never thought about which way to turn other than traffic pattern to get back to airport. Into the wind is absolutely the best outcome.
Thanks! Others would disagree, let them try it.
I think that was a a bit of your fighter pilot game face in the video. It’s always hard to say good by to a friend. We will all miss WB!
Too true!
Partial Power EFATO is the most popular one to happen. I used to teach that one first. And teach a complete troubleshooting while keeping altitude slow flight style.. I used 500 agl after take off for Partial Power EFATO, later on The Turnback no power at 700-800 agle depending on winds, runway and climb angle.. .... Later on.. 12 knot partial crosswinds make ideal to practice turnbacks to opposite or side runway.
Excellent Job! Thank you for your dedication to aviation safety! Blessings.....
Thanks!
This was a really good video-especially the popped door on takeoff. Thank you!
Good lesson. The door pop was a kick. Also, interesting engine failure. You're reminding me of other old adventures in that Citabria. The door pop reminded me of the last plane I ever flew, a Piper Cub. It was over Boulder at the height of the aspen season when all the trees turn color in the fall. If I had to have a "last day", that was a good one. I'll see those beautiful trees forever.
Nancy, I still think you need to fly again!
Thank you for this video! All great reminders for me in my A36.
Very welcome!
Stay ahead of your Aircraft at all times in any situation
Would I ever love to get a checkout in a Bonanza! Stabilized approach, target speeds and profile flight to landing, that’s the key.
Nice panel
Good video. One of these days I'll make it up to Bourland for some unusual attitude training with you.
That would be great!
In my V35B I've practiced the takeoff engine failure with my instructor and we were shooting for best glide speed (~100 kts) in the turn back to the airport. I think we made it back to the runway each time from around 1200-1500 AGL and landed with the throttle @ idle. The 81 kts target speed seems slow to me but I see how that would give you more time in the air vs gliding distance.
Ashley- Glad you practice. A decision point of 1200-1500' has a lot of advantages. What I am trying to influence is to have folks set a decision altitude, below which you look ahead of you, above which you may have options. Know how your airplane behaves in this regime is preferable to learning it for real... the first time.
Great teaching
Thank you!
I do not get to keep up with the channel as much as I would like so tonight was trying to watch stuff I missed. For the last little bit have been wondering what happened to WB now I know...gonna miss that plane as it was my favorite. On to new adventures with 33C..
Welcome back! And yes, new adventures!
Thank you, Scott. Another great pick-up for instructing. I was looking for a good set up for a simulated partial engine failure on takeoff to teach aborting a takeoff. I instruct my students to verbalize all speeds and altitudes in each segment of the pattern and the four criteria for a stabilized approach. I’d like to come out and receive some instructing time with you.
Thanks. That would be great JJ!
FlyWire- scott perdue. Are you based at MWL?
@@joeljasper3622 No, closer to Fort Worth
I would love to read your biography. You are a great pilot. And your videos are my favorites.
Wow, thank you! I’m not too sure my Bio would be very interesting, but thanks.
I would like to be a safety pilot for when ever you need to practice approaches in IFR conditions depending on location of aircraft
He needed a lesson in smooth control inputs. He yanks and banks.
I’m still trying to figure out all the V speeds in the bonanza. Would like to know the power settings, prop rpm etc, as well, for cruise climb decent, as well as for full flaps, gear and landing. Thank you.
Late reply but have you joined the American Bonanza Society? On their website under training they have the BPPP program. There’s a list of suggested PAC (Power Altitude Configuration) for all stages of flight, ie by the numbers. And they have an online video program first the BPPP and by the numbers flying. Highly recommended it. Rewatch a couple times per year.
@@Vejitasei I would join, but I do not have any access to any Bonanzas currently. I only fly the one that is on Microsoft flight simulator. There is one at an airport near me, a Debonair but it is rather expensive and the panel is far from upgraded. To me, it’s not worth the expense, if I’m flying with a panel, I used to fly with in the 1980s. Compared to a more upgraded panel and some of the warriors, Cessna’s and turbo arrow. The debonair requires knowledge through the Bonanza Society or a 5 to 10 hour check out. For the amount of time that I would rent that airplane on a yearly basis, it is not really worth it.
38WB has a new owner!
She does. I'm sure Frank will take good care of her!
on my bonanza checkout i actually lost an engine in crosswind... no do overs in real life..
Dawson you are absolutely right!
What differences do you see between air speeds of a36 and f33c for your engine failure on t/o procedure? It’s interesting to hear the different air speeds pilots have been taught. Range seems to be from 81 to 105. I was taught 95ias. Glad you are talking about this. Keep up the good work!
Mike- Thanks! The speeds are specific, not a range. Best Glide or Min Sink. You can fly in the range, but you give up- either distance or time in the air. The wing is the same between the A36 and the F33C-- But the F33C is lighter and 2 knots slower for glide (pretty hard to read). I haven't tested Min Sink in the F33C yet. But the point is, without power you really don't have enough energy to perform a good flair--- the descent rate is astonishing. So Beech as established an Emergency Speed--- check it out, its in the POH.
Be interested to see a video on min sink in the F33c. Numbers in the POH are great but only a starting reference for real world scenarios. The small details you can learn from other’s experiences just make the quiver of safety larger for us all. Keep teaching and we’ll keep learning. Thanks for what you do....
@@mikem8163 Thank you Mike. A video about Min Sink in the F33C is on the list... coming soon to a RUclips near you!
With the big distraction of a door pop, do you teach over-emphasize the landing checklist to avoid gear up mistakes?
I teach to focus on doing everything normally. Stay in the normal grove and don’t get excited. Do what your supposed to do.
i'm afraid we will see an episode in the future...he needs to fly the plane....i couldn't do it better,either.
Having let Whisky Bravo go, do you plan on replacing it with another A36?
No, for now the F33C is my ride. I like to go upside down, but elegantly;)
Do you do Bonanza checkouts for airplanes you don't sell?
I'm looking at an A36 right now
I do. I am a BPPP IP and do checkouts/IPCs and such.
@@FlyWirescottperdue you probably dont want to put your phone number out there.
But if you want to find me on Facebook and connect I would love to bend your ear about bonanzas for a couple minutes
What part of the east coast is the new owner flying his A-36 flying to?
CT
How about some instruction on slips?
Well... these videos aren't instruction... they are more like Demonstrations. I don't really do slips in complex airplanes with flaps. But I can do a video on Slips with the Stearman... I do those all the time!
"I don't really do slips in complex airplanes with flaps." Why is that?
@@bcairoriginals2233 Flaps
Would Frank have successfully made the turn back if he had pulled the prop back to coarse pitch? Perhaps he did and I missed it
No, go back and watch how long the exercise took. Mere seconds, not enough time for coarse pitch to make an impact. That's why Min Sink/Dmms is a better speed to fly. You don't need distance, you need time.
That makes sense and thank you and Frank for letting us ride along.
Sorry he seemed a little behind the curve! Not ready for WB!
Scott now you will have more time to fly your 180
Well Bernard, the 180 was sold last month. I had to economize someplace;)
So, WB is gone, will she be replaced by some ofher aircraft or is 33C the replacement? ;-)
Charlie, the F33C is the replacement. As much as I love the A36... it doesn't go upside down.
FlyWire- scott perdue Ah, thats what I figured! Thanks!
Scott, I would like for you to teach me how to fly but I think you will be very tough person. Anyway good job with all the videos.
HaHa.. I'm not tough, just demanding;)
I learned to fly from a WWII pilot who flew "The Hump" with the AVG. Very strict Instructor. The BEST kind to have! I'd fly with Scott any time.
good video. Sad to hear you sold WB.
Yeah me too
FlyWire- scott perdue Scott. Really interested in your technique for engine out. I was only taught to get best glide and at 1000 consider turning back to field. I like your method of hitting 80. Perhaps you could do a video just on that technique. I think it would be very helpful to us Bonanza pilots. Great job trying to keep us safe. 👍
@@albriseno2428 Thanks Al, Good idea I'll put it on the list.
Has the new owner flown the A36 before? What's his experience?
That was his second sortie. We did some work in the F33C before flying the A36.
Hi, where are you based ? Thanks!!
North Texas
Keep on going, Scott! I'm done. The accidents this past month, some involving Bones, have driven home the fact that we are making the same mistakes since the first pair of aircraft entered the same pattern over 100 years ago. Two deaths in Telluride, three close calls here in the last two days (I was on the ground at the FBO), tell me it's time. Two of the aircraft here had no less than three GoPro cameras each. The drivers said they didn't see each other. One driver admitted that he was "messing" with the cameras in the pattern. Even the remaining two former students of mine that are at the majors have stopped teaching. So much for "See and Avoid." Then there's the "UNFIT" accidents. Three Bone crashes in as many years have claimed people that I have known due to UNFIT.. All were big fans of yours. As am I. Godspeed, Scott.
Sorry to hear that Dick. God Speed!
As for the folks with GoPros... turn them on and forget them... fly the airplane!