First Aerobatic Ride Not Nervous at ALL

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  • Опубликовано: 23 мар 2021
  • First Aerobatic ride for Steph... take easy, right? She was only a little nervous!
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  • @rjthomasindyusa
    @rjthomasindyusa 3 года назад +31

    I need a CFI like this.... He is calm, uses positive affirmation and explains himself well.

    • @edwardr5084
      @edwardr5084 3 года назад

      Amen

    • @kohersh
      @kohersh 2 года назад +1

      Mountains of experience. I can listen to pilots like this all day long.

    • @icanmanifest
      @icanmanifest 2 года назад

      We all do. Where does Scott live? I'm in Las Vegas and want to get current and back into flying.

  • @flyinokie
    @flyinokie 3 года назад +6

    I love the commentary she gives with her eyes. She's beautiful. Your videos and insight are awesome. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kevinbaslee3654
    @kevinbaslee3654 3 года назад +21

    Scott, your aerobatics were awesome, but she was the star of the show. Watching her eyes and excitement on her face was worth a million bucks. Thanks for sharing the video with us!

  • @easttexan2933
    @easttexan2933 3 года назад +20

    Steph did a good job of containing the nerves. Scott, you are one smooth pilot.

  • @bernardc2553
    @bernardc2553 3 года назад +12

    Old man's Airplane, old man STILL Rock N IT!!
    A day she'll NEVER forget. Her comfort level
    nurtured by you.

  • @michaelroberts7329
    @michaelroberts7329 Месяц назад +1

    I wish I could have had Scott as my instructor when I was a student pilot.

  • @hockeytops
    @hockeytops 3 года назад +21

    I loved the multiple views. I felt like I got a much better idea what it would actually be like. Thanks!

  • @Wild_Bill57
    @Wild_Bill57 3 года назад +8

    Steph has such expressive eyes, she didn't say a lot verbally, but her eyes surely expressed her excitement. And she's not even a pilot yet!!! Watched the manover a bunch of times, very, very interesting.

  • @Jmnp08
    @Jmnp08 2 года назад +2

    About time I hear someone say that speed is most important.

  • @mutthaam2396
    @mutthaam2396 3 года назад +15

    Our Scott, he's a "terror" with the lassies.

  • @steveedwards1072
    @steveedwards1072 2 года назад +1

    Awesome! When I was 13, my stepdad took me up in our 172 a few months after we crashed our 35 Bonanza (N4270B you can look the crash up on NTSB). The 172 flight was “just because it was a beautiful day to fly”. He showed me a few “tricks” WITHOUT WARNING ME. A stall and a 2G turn, again without him preparing me. I knew enough about flying to know the stall alarm. I heard it and almost went ballistic. THEN came the turn. I wanted to do serious harm to him for doing that to me but I realized he had to land that thing. When we got out of the plane I said horrible things and refused to get in the car to go home(I was still on crutches from the Bonanza crash). It took him 20 minutes of him apologizing to get me in the car. Peace

  • @craigbsmith6805
    @craigbsmith6805 3 года назад +17

    "Speed gives you options" - In deed it does!

    • @jplfly
      @jplfly 2 года назад +2

      After about 250 hours ASEL, I decided to take some unusual attitude lessons. That was the most valuable training I have ever had. It's one thing in primary training when the instructor says "don't do" this or that. It is a wholly different experience when you intentionally do what your instructor says not to. My instructor was a radio personality in OKC and was hilarious...on the air. But when we approached his Citabria after a thorough blackboard flight he be came no nonsense professional. And as we strapped our parachutes on I'll never forget his admonition before we started the airplane. He said "If I tell you to bail out don't hesitate because you will be in the airplane by yourself!" That statement as much h as any other let me know he was not playing. This was a deadly serious training flight and I had better pay attention. I did that when I was 45 years old. I am 78 years old and every time I tighten my seatbelt I appreciate the lessons learned.

  • @stephenembrey883
    @stephenembrey883 2 года назад +2

    She would make a very good pilot her eyes never stop moving very alert and attentive, that's what it takes

  • @jillianbruce6143
    @jillianbruce6143 2 года назад +3

    WOW! That was fun even just WATCHING! Stephanie's right, you are a good teacher! She was GREAT-- Cool as a cucumber! She, understandably, had total trust in you, Scott. Thanks for letting me come along for the ride😄😁😆!!!

  • @rossilake218
    @rossilake218 3 года назад +6

    Scott’s the best pilot. Love flying with him, on YT.

  • @ralphhowe3355
    @ralphhowe3355 3 года назад +3

    I love her eyes while you are explaining things to her. She will make a FINE doctor. Very situationally aware.

  • @charleslawson6824
    @charleslawson6824 3 года назад +11

    That is fabulous! Steph is obviously going to make a fine, fine pilot.

  • @cncshrops
    @cncshrops 3 года назад +1

    I imagine you are both very proud of each other.

  • @dougarroyo794
    @dougarroyo794 3 года назад +2

    brings back old memories thanks for sharing!

  • @hosegooseman5
    @hosegooseman5 3 года назад +2

    Awesome video. Thanks for sharing !!!

  • @michaelduff4790
    @michaelduff4790 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video. Enjoyed all the different perspectives.

  • @terencetaylor4600
    @terencetaylor4600 2 года назад +1

    Thankyou I have seen the split s turn written so many times but couldn’t understand. Steph seems to be a lovely lady.

  • @bobwilson758
    @bobwilson758 2 года назад +1

    Miss Stephenie is going to be a wonderful doctor I think !!

  • @LarjoskiFlyingAway
    @LarjoskiFlyingAway 3 года назад +2

    Had fun riding along. Thanks for sharing. You made her feel very comfortable. She did great.

  • @mikes8948
    @mikes8948 3 года назад +3

    Looks like loads of fun!

  • @davidcarlosloriatoneman4197
    @davidcarlosloriatoneman4197 Год назад +1

    Perfect calm and cool, no show offs and well performed, that ball didn´t move during the roll, awsome truly! nd I´m always a Bonanza lover ... what more do I need?

  • @mikemastropietro9482
    @mikemastropietro9482 2 года назад +2

    Great video keep them coming!

  • @BobBig007
    @BobBig007 3 года назад +2

    Scott thanks for posting the video. That was very cool.

  • @LargoFlyBoy
    @LargoFlyBoy 3 года назад +1

    Love the new avionics! Great video.

  • @bobjackson3307
    @bobjackson3307 3 года назад +2

    Super video Congratzzz Steph

  • @lahockeyboy
    @lahockeyboy Год назад +1

    great video... bravo to both of you! great job

  • @lapoint7603
    @lapoint7603 3 года назад +3

    Great video! It's always good when you introduce someone to another facet of aviation. Thanks Mr. Perdue.

  • @brianb5594
    @brianb5594 Год назад +1

    Would love to have aerobatic F33. Too cool Scott!

  • @josephart1021
    @josephart1021 3 года назад +4

    Love her response when she first felt the G's. Great video.

  • @MalcolmRuthven
    @MalcolmRuthven 3 года назад +7

    Scott, thanks for that video. I've never done any aerobatics at all and never learned anything about them. So this was quite educational to me, especially since you included different views of each maneuver.

  • @carmengalasso3918
    @carmengalasso3918 3 года назад +6

    In a previous life, I remember my first flight at NAS Pensacola in 1980 which was an aerobatic flight in a Buckeye T-2. This video brought back all the memories. THANK YOU!

  • @mandersontx1116
    @mandersontx1116 3 года назад +2

    I have a PPL and would still be nervous doing that. These are great videos thanks for sharing.

  • @douglasluisballus4562
    @douglasluisballus4562 2 года назад +2

    Hey Scott! Congrats for the video and experience! Hugs from Brazil 🇧🇷

  • @Doones51
    @Doones51 3 года назад +3

    I am so glad i found your channel. Stephanie's many facial expressions spoke louder than words. Thanks for the great video.

  • @garyspeed8961
    @garyspeed8961 3 года назад +2

    great all aspect photography .. thanks ! PS great instructor too!

  • @f16pilotjumper
    @f16pilotjumper 3 года назад +2

    The new panel looks great!

  • @richardsforrest
    @richardsforrest 3 года назад +2

    My first was in a Cap-10B. Great fun! My favorite maneuver is still inverted spin with recovery to inverted.

  • @mikekarbach394
    @mikekarbach394 3 года назад +7

    That was a lot of fun. Thanks for the ride along

  • @andrewbill1956
    @andrewbill1956 3 года назад +4

    Love the video but I would be on the third bag by now! Keep up the good work Scott, love it.

  • @thesunrisechannel
    @thesunrisechannel 3 года назад +2

    Excellent Scott...Reminds me of my first aerobatic lesson...in 1980...in a Citabria...out of Petaluma, CA, with all the flight work over the north end of the bay...all water, power towers, ships, bridges and roadways when you came out of the maneuver. I'm with you...I highly recommend an hour or two of real "seat of the pants" flying...if only to learn about the force of the forces!

  • @enricodigenova8112
    @enricodigenova8112 3 года назад +2

    In my time of doing my license you would have been a great instructor to fly with and learn so relaxed keep up the great work and I enjoy watching your videos 👍👍 very knowledgeable

  • @Joe_Not_A_Fed
    @Joe_Not_A_Fed 3 года назад +4

    Great job walking Steph thru what you're going to do with your passenger beforehand. exactly the right tone. Top notch cockpit side manner. You have a knack, man. Spin/spiral recovery and steep turns were some of my favorite maneuvers during PPL training. They were (maybe still are) required for a PPL in Canuckistan. A 172 really doesn't like to spin, especially with a couple of big boys in the front seats. We had to really get that nose high, and with the horn blaring, kick left rudder and add a shot of power and the first half of the spin was pretty much inverted. Even with full back pressure, it wants to spiral. Fun stuff.

  • @johnb7490
    @johnb7490 3 года назад +2

    Great job steph.

  • @ericlozen9631
    @ericlozen9631 3 года назад +1

    Luv It!!

  • @par5eagles975
    @par5eagles975 3 года назад +2

    Great video, as always.
    I loved the discussion of speed vs altitude on the initial climbout. Perfectly explained. Sometimes I think CFI's emphasize Vy too much, it's too slow in case of an engine failure (most pilots won't react fast enough to prevent a stall), makes recovery tougher from an energy standpoint (as you said), and leads to CHTs that are too high. Well done, first video I've seen this discussion on.

  • @seanmeeks412
    @seanmeeks412 3 года назад +2

    You are the personification of aviation professionalism, knowledge, and wisdom. As a newly minted pilot, I learn from you, than any other single source. Thank you for sharing with all of us. I guarantee I’m a better pilot for it!

  • @bdiler35
    @bdiler35 3 года назад +2

    I loved the video, her eyes telling the truth 👍

  • @michaelduff4790
    @michaelduff4790 3 года назад +4

    Charming passenger. Loved her brave reaction to her seat sliding slightly. Guess it G-locked? (sorry humor attempt)

  • @billgates.got.ripped6965
    @billgates.got.ripped6965 3 года назад +2

    More !! Please !

  • @cogwap359
    @cogwap359 3 года назад +5

    Awesome Scott! Very cool to watch the changing data on the instruments. Thank you!

    • @FlyWirescottperdue
      @FlyWirescottperdue  3 года назад +2

      Glad you liked it!

    • @dade8881
      @dade8881 3 года назад +2

      I enjoy your videos a lot Scott - informative and inspiring for a novice pilot like me. Thanks!

  • @thevideogame108
    @thevideogame108 3 года назад +1

    Great video

  • @caygill2
    @caygill2 3 года назад +1

    Great video. Reading some of the comments I find it mindboggling that one seemingly can become a CPL with zero hours of aerobatic training. I never made into the the industry due to health reasons, but I definitely had a fair share of basic acrobatics training before getting my PPL.

  • @EVELYNEMIL
    @EVELYNEMIL 3 года назад +1

    Phenomenal!!.

  • @christophergoggin5524
    @christophergoggin5524 2 года назад +1

    This a great Channel my Fav

  • @billylain7456
    @billylain7456 3 года назад +3

    Great video!

  • @nhwilkinosn
    @nhwilkinosn 3 года назад +2

    I was actually in that situation yesterday! In an s2 pitts! And I did an aileron roll too! It was a BLAST! only thing that startled me was how violent a snap roll was. Still a ton of fun!

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 3 года назад +1

      Pitts Special the only way to fly.

  • @lynnhawkins799
    @lynnhawkins799 3 года назад +2

    Great video! Great job introducing someone to aerobatics! You and Jim Peitz make me want a F-33C! And a Great Lakes! And an Extra! And this blanket!😀

  • @GunniesLetsFlyVFR
    @GunniesLetsFlyVFR 2 года назад +1

    Loved it itnwas an awesome video.

  • @tomscott4723
    @tomscott4723 3 года назад +1

    Very nice!

  • @rob737700
    @rob737700 3 года назад +3

    Retired with 37 years in the business, but I've never been upside down! Have never flown a tail dragger, either. Bucket list items for me, thanks for the fun video.

    • @SVSky
      @SVSky 3 года назад +1

      Highly recommended. Did my PPL in tailwheel, and learning acro now. Confidence and freedom.

    • @rob737700
      @rob737700 3 года назад

      @@SVSky Awesome. Glad you are enjoying this type of flying.

  • @skid2151
    @skid2151 3 года назад +3

    Awesome video Gunny! Always enjoyed taking fam riders along in the T-38 and getting some acro maneuvers accomplished. Kudos for not getting her air-sick! Cheers, Skid

    • @FlyWirescottperdue
      @FlyWirescottperdue  3 года назад +2

      Thanks 👍

    • @chuckcampbell3927
      @chuckcampbell3927 3 года назад

      ✨📖
      Great job with Stephanie. I love to see women get in this business. Two that I initiated are currently captains flying for the majors.
      I believe you said Stephanie is a doctor?
      (I could be wrong) she looks young enough for a career change!!
      Scott, do you remember the old jokes about a doctor and a Bonanza?? lol
      (Sadly some cases not so funny)!
      Do you have any video the EXTRA days.
      BTW: I THINK YOU CAN STILL DO THE 9G REALM.
      Fighter pilots never lose it. It's in your blood.
      As long as you're exercising and got some cardio endurance.
      I don't recommend anybody from going from the recliner to any high load factor without a stop at the
      gym.
      Your contributions and your legacy to aviation will stand a long long time, Scott.
      You are appreciated thank you
      🛫🛬📖

  • @SVSky
    @SVSky 3 года назад +2

    Steph is tough! Most people's first flights are not pleasant.
    Learning Aerobatics in a Super Decathlon, got to do the flying I never got to in the military but enjoying it as much as I thought I would!

  • @bigc208
    @bigc208 3 года назад +4

    Very enjoyable to watch. I’ve got about 11000 hours and never rolled an aircraft. Did a few loops in gliders and upside down spins. This has motivated me to take a basics aerobatic course this spring. Better late than never.

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 3 года назад +1

      I can't imagine having 11,000 hours and no Aerobatic time. I received my sail plane sign off in an aerobatic sail plane in Arizona. Regular sail plane gliding bored me. Flying inverted while climbing under the clouds & thermals is a blast.

  • @nickhart5332
    @nickhart5332 3 года назад +3

    Can’t wait to go on my first aerobatic ride.... with Scott Purdue! 😎

  • @celestialfix
    @celestialfix 3 года назад +2

    My first acrobatic flight was in the back seat of a Navy TA-4 down at Beeville Texas.......I’m embarrassed to say that I tossed my cookies and had to use the barf bag. Dr. Steph did well.

  • @psblad2667
    @psblad2667 3 года назад +2

    An aerobatic airplane must ALWAYS be very thorough vacuumed!!! :-)

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 3 года назад

      They are never clean enough. Junk always flies to the canopy when inverted.

  • @happyhome41
    @happyhome41 3 года назад +3

    I have about 40 hours inverted in a Decathlon 8KCAB - those were the days.

  • @davidallen9526
    @davidallen9526 3 года назад +2

    She did well. I've not done any training in aerobatics. I'm sure I would be nervous. The plane I own is only rated for 3.5 pos. and 2 neg. so even steep tight turns can bust the rating. Love the racetrack pattern. Thanks so much for bringing me along!

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 3 года назад

      Exactly. That's why you should only do aerobatics in a Pitts Special biplane, Extra or One Design airplane. Just too much risk with a metal monoplane airplane whether certified or experimental. Too easy to overspeed or over G.

  • @gorgly123
    @gorgly123 3 года назад +2

    My first time upside down was doing spin training in a 172 for my CFI rating. Other than spin training and giving spin training the other acrobatic experience was in a L-39. Just some rolls. That's enough for me.

  • @n6mz
    @n6mz 3 года назад +1

    Granbury?! You're a neighbor of one of my best friends!! Loved the vid, THANKS.

  • @darryljackman
    @darryljackman 3 года назад +1

    I could watch her all day!

  • @martinlebrun5110
    @martinlebrun5110 3 года назад +1

    Gorgeous !

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 Год назад +1

    thank you.

  • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
    @cluelessbeekeeping1322 3 года назад +3

    She has the eyes of a curious one!

  • @richardmadison6826
    @richardmadison6826 3 года назад +2

    you can see the wing skin compressing slightly during the wing loading. Love the side view.

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 3 года назад

      Exactly. That's why it's a bad idea to do aerobatics in a metal monoplane airplane whether certified or experimental. Just not enough safety margin. Too easy to over G or overspeed the airframe. Only fly aerobatics in a Pitts Special, Extra or One Design airplane.

  • @Codehead3
    @Codehead3 3 года назад +1

    Go Stephanie!

  • @maxvogan8183
    @maxvogan8183 3 года назад +4

    5G's are surprising But doing 10G's are totally exciting. Excellent Pilot!!!

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 3 года назад +1

      Most people would be long passed out doing 10g's. Anything over 5 or 6 g's is just downright uncomfortable. Not fun and hard on the airplane.

  • @pamm8608
    @pamm8608 3 года назад +1

    Fun!

  • @deborrahdutra5599
    @deborrahdutra5599 3 года назад +1

    That was cool

  • @PNW_Car_Mods
    @PNW_Car_Mods 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic shots Sir. I've been in helicopter aviation all my life and had no idea there was an aerobatic certified Bonanza. After the split S I would have been begging to go back for fear of vomiting. :(

  • @Parr4theCourse
    @Parr4theCourse 3 года назад +1

    Did much better than I would have!!

  • @rinzler9775
    @rinzler9775 2 года назад

    My first aerobatics lesson was in a Pitt special - had a massive headache for the rest of the day.

  • @Tax2Me
    @Tax2Me 3 года назад +1

    The Thumb downers; are these people that give thumb up in inverted fly? Because this video and this pilot is one i would love to be in command for me in any training situation. Amazing snd “effortless” demonstration of what learning to fly (come on don’t come technical on me, i know there is plenty more to it, but lets not spoil it) is for any one that wonder; How fun is it?

  • @Roidsx381
    @Roidsx381 3 года назад +3

    Scott makes this sound like he is a rocket scientist! Your amazing CFI! where do you fly out of?

  • @dogfoodking
    @dogfoodking 2 года назад +1

    I honestly had no idea you could do this in a Bonanza. Awesome 👌

    • @FlyWirescottperdue
      @FlyWirescottperdue  2 года назад +2

      Don't forget this is an Aerobatic Bonanza!

    • @dogfoodking
      @dogfoodking 2 года назад

      @@FlyWirescottperdue just did some googling.... thats pretty sweet. Growing up my uncle had a V tail. CF-FYF.

  • @HotTakeHQ
    @HotTakeHQ Год назад +1

    😳🙌🏽📸I saw that! For the first loop you started at precisely 5000, and where did you wind up climbing up to 6100 and returning where? Bang: right back to 5000!!! That’s impressive flying wow

  • @jjohnston94
    @jjohnston94 3 года назад +7

    The first time I went upsidedown with the intent of staying upsidedown, it hadn't occurred to me to hold my feet up against the floor, so my legs fell "up" and I kicked the bottom of the panel.

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 3 года назад

      That's a great point. Most people never think about that. A lot of aerobatic pilots use a loose strap around their ankles to help support one's legs for high negative G maneuvers.

  • @willhibbardii2450
    @willhibbardii2450 3 года назад +1

    Scott, Kudos for gently initiating Steph to basic fun of acrobatic maneuvers. Who needs an amusement?

  • @tgmccoy1556
    @tgmccoy1556 3 года назад +1

    I was introduced to aerobatics in a Blanik
    L13. Then later, a Pitts S-2.
    World of difference 😁

    • @michaeld9731
      @michaeld9731 3 года назад +1

      Spinning an L13 is a lot of fun, except it is like a sin to give away all the altitude in a glider

    • @tgmccoy1556
      @tgmccoy1556 3 года назад

      @@michaeld9731 yep like spinning a Taylor craft
      Except it's bit easier to regain altitude 😁

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 3 года назад

      Pitts Special the only way to fly

  • @N412BE
    @N412BE 3 года назад +3

    Rapid eye movements...thought she was going to hurl!

  • @txman201
    @txman201 3 года назад +1

    That apprehensive?....verdict: not ready for what's about to occur. I looked forward to my first aerobatic lesson and the numerous ones that followed.

  • @huzefamohamedali991
    @huzefamohamedali991 3 года назад +4

    Your approach to landing is like a fighter pilot 😀

  • @MichaelLloyd
    @MichaelLloyd 3 года назад +1

    :o) You probably just created the next Patty Wagstaff. That looked like a lot of fun. The closest I've ever been to aerobatics is spin training in the might C150 and with an overzealous CFII that pitched up and rolled past 90 degrees during unusual attitude under the hood training. That was a long time ago :o)

  • @Mrsournotes
    @Mrsournotes 3 года назад +2

    Very cool video Scott and Steph! The multiple view replays very nice. Did I see airspeed in low 40’s at top of loop? Would you be close to stall at that point?
    Well done, thank you.👍🏽👍🏽

    • @FlyWirescottperdue
      @FlyWirescottperdue  3 года назад +4

      Over the top you are ballistic. If I was pulling the airplane would have stalled... and that maneuver is called a Lomechevak. I don't do those in the Bonanza.

    • @Mrsournotes
      @Mrsournotes 3 года назад +1

      @@FlyWirescottperdue I just read up on the Lomechevak maneuvers. Very interesting and I wasn’t aware of the stresses on an aircraft while performing those. Thanks for that Scott.

  • @chuckh8199
    @chuckh8199 3 года назад +2

    altitude is potential energy - giving you both time and energy - high airspeed at low altitude is only energy minus the time - altitude although linear can be traded for forward velocity - Id rather have altitude - not trying to squabble - I think I may be missing your point - i enjoy the videos - waiting to see more about the sunk bonanza stories you are doing with Dan - interesting stuff - thanks

    • @FlyWirescottperdue
      @FlyWirescottperdue  3 года назад +2

      Go back to some of my previous 'Impossible Turn' videos. It's a physics thing altitude.. and we're talking not much altitude difference right after takeoff... is not as valuable as airspeed. It's a physics thing and physics is my background. Speed gives your greater inertia and therefore more time. Altitude doesn't do that for you. Try it in a safe environment.

    • @chuckh8199
      @chuckh8199 3 года назад +1

      @@FlyWirescottperdue - ok - I see what you are saying - airspeed is always king - but if I have altitude I also have energy ready to trade for airspeed - I always climb at Vy for that purpose - the impossible turn is exactly that -I verbalize when Im at an altitude where the turn back is available - Im always spring loaded in my brain at take off - push the nose down - head straight ahead - we are on the same page - thanks for the reply - I enjoy the content -