QUESTION: If Player A has less then the required FR and player B gets hit by fire damage, is player A in risk of dying? Or do only YOU die if YOU have less then what’s required? In my guild there are some confusion regarding if ALL in the raid HAS to have the required FR or if it’s only the raiders with less then the required FR that can get 1. Shot. I hope the question makes sense.
@@jeppenyboejensen7773only the players with less than 226 die the instant that specific person gets hit with fire damage. If you bring a player below the cap consider your comp as having 19-people on bosses
The problem we had with the decursing and dispelling fights was that we were getting more casts than could be handled by our comp. It felt like the number of casts wasn’t tuned to 20 people so if your comp is not ideal, then it’s significantly harder.
If your raid gets AoE cursed then the difference between 40 and 20 man is that your group gets hit by 20 less curses. That's the tuning. You just have to have mages/druids/priests/paladins/shamans for the mechs unless you wanna use consumables for them or nuke bosses. If you just run melees hunters and warlocks for the most part it ain't a pikachu face scenario
@@Jonseredi That’s not how it works in practice. With 20 people, each person plays a much bigger role in the raid and the composition requirements become far more strict. So having a healer spend a significant amount of time dispelling is a much bigger drain on the raids healing than in a 40-man where you can dedicate 2+ people to focus 100% on the mechanics and the raid doesn’t suffer in healing/dps.
We have had low amount of decursers for weeks now and just found out that removing gehennas curse hurts the person removing the curse by 1000 shadow dmg.
Please make a hunter guide for this. I just got back from vacation and there is so much crap going around that it's just not making any sense. Please ;-;
Hi. Oxygen member here from the cleanest kill world (execution on WCL) on Garr. We 2 tanked it with feral and warrior. Feral on ads and warrior on Garr and you just nuke Garr.
Isn’t it better to just have an OT tank the Sulfuron adds away and everyone focuses boss? The cleaving took so long that we decided mid fight to just separate and burn and it was so much quicker that way.
So they had to delay this phase by about 2 months to let it cook more, and all we get is a few half baked extra mechanics in the same raid we've been running since 2019? Everybody wants a game mode similar to sod, a classic+ but good god are these developers fumbling something that could be great.
Heat levels are a massive flop. Season of Mastery mechanics are an even bigger one. No effort put into this, just like SoM. We spent weeks farming our 0.5 gear only to put it in the bank come raid time.
I don't get it. Heat level 3 bosses being described as easy, but our guild wiped over and over within the first few seconds of pulling Lucifron heat level 1.
they want us to burn through this in time for their "new game" wraith within, if we play 2...3....4.... or ALL of their stupid game versions .... it makes it look like more people are playing their games this is a CEO's company now.... not about the products any more all about the profits they have destroyed everything good about this game in such a short time everything microsoft touches falls apart
Summary: MC is almost exactly the same as it was in OG and in 2019. Just a few extra mechanics and you need FR gear for the extra heat levels or you get 1-shot (literally). End boss drops legendary items more often (I think) for the sake of SOD.
well its not the same if theres more mechanics lol mc in 2019 u can go in with green gear and clear the raid.. baron has a dps check level 2 which is the normal level has a 100 fr requirement.. so yeah not really the same but sure.
I don't have an issue with them keeping all the bosses Tank and Spank as they are in original vanilla with some minor mechanics that doesn't change the fights a whole a lot, BUT I Freaking hate when this devs start hyping up something and that thing end up being garbage or average. 1st the heat mechanic is just a prep mechanic and doesn't add anything to the fight, if you have 230 you negate the whole mechanic and if you don't you die instantly who's the genius who came up with this garbage. 2nd, the last boss is my biggest disappointement and that boss only made log out yesterday when I was watching the World 1st MC clear and tbh I lost faith in the classic devs making something interesting or engaging. how can you hype a last secret boss for to be a Ball that cast 2 spells and just drops tones of loot at this point I just think its a loot pinata.
I mean mechanically that boss looks the bset in my opinion (meeting up to dispell i think is cool) but the arbitrary number of FR or u will be one shot is so stupid. Instead of making the raid harder, they make you take off bis gear and use greens in order to stay alive.
I don't think we should be learning from a player who dies to baron geddon's 20 year old mechanic, or plays in a guild with a MT who goes to world first races with no fire res
Probably didn't need to yap as much as I did in this one, but now you know everything!
I dont even need to play game anymore. I just did all bosses with You. Thank you Sarthe i don't need to buy game anymore, thanks to You. #blizzard
QUESTION:
If Player A has less then the required FR and player B gets hit by fire damage, is player A in risk of dying? Or do only YOU die if YOU have less then what’s required?
In my guild there are some confusion regarding if ALL in the raid HAS to have the required FR or if it’s only the raiders with less then the required FR that can get 1. Shot.
I hope the question makes sense.
Lmao can’t wait for thunder fury in the real vendor!
@@jeppenyboejensen7773only the players with less than 226 die the instant that specific person gets hit with fire damage. If you bring a player below the cap consider your comp as having 19-people on bosses
nothing to discover here, same old MC
what a major disappointment
baron has a dps check that is timed and starts at 10%, I don't think it was mentioned here
The problem we had with the decursing and dispelling fights was that we were getting more casts than could be handled by our comp. It felt like the number of casts wasn’t tuned to 20 people so if your comp is not ideal, then it’s significantly harder.
this so much this, we had three priests dispelling and it felt like it was tuned to 40 players not 20.
If your raid gets AoE cursed then the difference between 40 and 20 man is that your group gets hit by 20 less curses. That's the tuning. You just have to have mages/druids/priests/paladins/shamans for the mechs unless you wanna use consumables for them or nuke bosses. If you just run melees hunters and warlocks for the most part it ain't a pikachu face scenario
@@Jonseredi That’s not how it works in practice. With 20 people, each person plays a much bigger role in the raid and the composition requirements become far more strict. So having a healer spend a significant amount of time dispelling is a much bigger drain on the raids healing than in a 40-man where you can dedicate 2+ people to focus 100% on the mechanics and the raid doesn’t suffer in healing/dps.
The adds also do an immolation aura that people don't really mention.
We have had low amount of decursers for weeks now and just found out that removing gehennas curse hurts the person removing the curse by 1000 shadow dmg.
Golemagg and Sulfuron not correctly explained (classic Sarthe).
Sulfuron has shared HP pool. You cant "kill the adds and then go for the boss"
Please make a hunter guide for this. I just got back from vacation and there is so much crap going around that it's just not making any sense. Please ;-;
Hi. Oxygen member here from the cleanest kill world (execution on WCL) on Garr. We 2 tanked it with feral and warrior. Feral on ads and warrior on Garr and you just nuke Garr.
What the f is oxygen. Never heared of
is the legendary drop a for sure thing from last boss? That would make lvl 3 really nice to try for
What are the submerge count down and knockback countdown addon??
Do the sons of fire explode when they die on Rag submurge phase?
Sarthe , where is a LEAF for hunter quest ?
core hounds werent even far enough, still no prob in healing the druid... :)
Isn’t it better to just have an OT tank the Sulfuron adds away and everyone focuses boss? The cleaving took so long that we decided mid fight to just separate and burn and it was so much quicker that way.
they have shared health pool
when the adds heal themselves it will also heal the boss. If anything keep the boss outside and dps adds
The dogs re spawned while boss fights. it was so annoying.
What addon makes your dps numbers look like that??
do do
So they had to delay this phase by about 2 months to let it cook more, and all we get is a few half baked extra mechanics in the same raid we've been running since 2019? Everybody wants a game mode similar to sod, a classic+ but good god are these developers fumbling something that could be great.
Bunch of fat lazy pizza sheet if you ask me. We Deserve WOW2 !!!
Interest fizzled out p2 if we're being real
Lol and you’re still gonna be playing it 8 hours a day.
Found the redditor
2019? I am sure this raid are from 2005
no world first video makes me think this patch is a joke
well maybe if you played it instead of commenting assuming you'd know.
@@deadservers2374 I know
Why do people hate this dude so much? He's fine he just makes wow videos.
a guide from a guy who was whining the whole race cause according to him dads beat him by playing the game in a lame way daamn was a good stream
What was the lame way? Asking as a casual af player
Heat levels are a massive flop. Season of Mastery mechanics are an even bigger one. No effort put into this, just like SoM.
We spent weeks farming our 0.5 gear only to put it in the bank come raid time.
thats your fault dude, I didnt farm any .5 gear because I knew this shit was gonna be like that xD you expected more. Dont just assume shit.
I don't get it. Heat level 3 bosses being described as easy, but our guild wiped over and over within the first few seconds of pulling Lucifron heat level 1.
That is unironically a skill issue
@@Raavyx_ Yeah, just don't know what is going wrong with like 5 people dying within like 10 sec of the pull.
@@ColCoal what ability are they dying to? If its conflagration its because not enough fire resist (although you shouldnt need FR on lvl1)
The mobs cleave
they want us to burn through this in time for their "new game" wraith within, if we play 2...3....4.... or ALL of their stupid game versions .... it makes it look like more people are playing their games
this is a CEO's company now.... not about the products any more all about the profits
they have destroyed everything good about this game in such a short time
everything microsoft touches falls apart
Summary: MC is almost exactly the same as it was in OG and in 2019. Just a few extra mechanics and you need FR gear for the extra heat levels or you get 1-shot (literally).
End boss drops legendary items more often (I think) for the sake of SOD.
well its not the same if theres more mechanics lol mc in 2019 u can go in with green gear and clear the raid.. baron has a dps check level 2 which is the normal level has a 100 fr requirement.. so yeah not really the same but sure.
That’s why I said “almost”! :).
@@deadservers2374they copy pasted the mechanics and health from SOM it’s not new
I don't have an issue with them keeping all the bosses Tank and Spank as they are in original vanilla with some minor mechanics that doesn't change the fights a whole a lot, BUT I Freaking hate when this devs start hyping up something and that thing end up being garbage or average.
1st the heat mechanic is just a prep mechanic and doesn't add anything to the fight, if you have 230 you negate the whole mechanic and if you don't you die instantly who's the genius who came up with this garbage.
2nd, the last boss is my biggest disappointement and that boss only made log out yesterday when I was watching the World 1st MC clear and tbh I lost faith in the classic devs making something interesting or engaging. how can you hype a last secret boss for to be a Ball that cast 2 spells and just drops tones of loot at this point I just think its a loot pinata.
I mean mechanically that boss looks the bset in my opinion (meeting up to dispell i think is cool) but the arbitrary number of FR or u will be one shot is so stupid. Instead of making the raid harder, they make you take off bis gear and use greens in order to stay alive.
Binding and a Rock as a Endboss wow.. new Level of Just depressed wow .. feels so Bad Good to stop a Long Time
Go back to playing fortnite ya complaining beta
@@Hifcrea oww the sod player is mad go and kill a fire giant ball
@@Hifcreaeven fortnite is alot better than this garbage
So the fire resist requirement is just a way to nerf players into resist gear and punish those that try to ignore it. Fun. Not.
I love it. Forced freeloaders to actually step up.
@@tnshanobighost6749 i like that you have to grind, but feels bad to be unable to wear your bis gear....
It's going to be like this for other raids too. So hope you already have your nature/shadow gear in check for AQ while it's still cheap :)
@uuhAce well your bis gear is the gear that let's you defeat the strongest bosses. Sooo
@Jonseredi shh man I been casually collecting it all with 0 competition
do you need to keep up the 226 fr no EVERY boss? also on shazzraz? little extra loot. bindings.
everyboss besides shaz i think
@uuhAce If he reflects any fire damage, you die. Our tank conflagged from his skull flame shield lol
If you don't have the FR and you start a boss battle you will get one-shot by a mechanic. It's not boss dependent.
26 minute yap session but not pvp tier list
Impatiently waiting for your hunter guide. Wowhead guide is useless
lol these AI comments….
Did you clear?
His guild is the world first Heat 3 clear.
@@CrushingPeanuts no they are not , it was NOTA
@@Kivrus he's litterally in nota
@@alexxbrg4339
He literally isn't. He's in Fake Fresh. Ahlaundoh is in NOTA. His guild lost to Ahlaundoh's guild
@@CrushingPeanuts
Wrong
These core hound respawns are stupid. The Duke DOES NOT offer a repair, despite the fact that he sells gear.
Engineers can make the Repair Bot. Probably smart to have a few on hand during progression.
@@CrushingPeanuts Then use the bots at the boss when after a wipe recovery. Let players repair at the entrance, if you need to summon replacements.
I've never died on the game ever in 40 years never even knew repair was a thing
@@PULAGok dude
I don't think we should be learning from a player who dies to baron geddon's 20 year old mechanic, or plays in a guild with a MT who goes to world first races with no fire res
When is the ULTIMATE SPEEDRUN VIDEO GUIDE coming where all the trash is pre-cleared?!
nothing new to discover
this was a giant waste of a year
what a stupid extra boss
Thank god I quit after 2 BFD raids at lvls 25. Back to Era boys
Why are you here then.
@@tnshanobighost6749 To check it out? Learning from other people's mistake is a blessing
people playing sod are coping.
yeah guys , stop having fun !!
Alliance cringe