F-104 STARFIGHTER Flies Again Over Italy, Awesome J79 Howl!
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2023
- Footage of F-104 Starfighter ground test run and flying. TF-104GM Starfighter returns to Italy at Italian Air Force Centenary Airshow, Manifestazione Aerea del Centennario dell'Aeronautica Militare at Pratica di Mare 2023.
Aircraft was plagued with technical problems throughout the weekend, so there was only one flight at the airshow.
Aircraft belongs to www.starfighters.net/
Piloted by @PiercarloCiacchi 
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Aircraft was plagued with technical problems throughout the weekend, so there was only one flight at the airshow.
Brave man to fly it these days considering its reputation!
@@GlenD1977 Im sure they only fly when they are sure it`s safe.
@@PaddyPatrone yeah definitely, hence only the one flight. Still, it didn’t earn the moniker ‘Widow Maker’ for nothing 😬
Again on this “widow maker” label only applies to a superficial view of German pilots poorly trained 35% as root cause, rest weather and other causes only small % due to the aircraft. This is 1952 designed airplane ahead of his time (can out-climb an F16 @ 54,000 ft/minute) and his latest version is reliable to fly when maintained @KSC by Starfighters Inc
The F-86 had many more accidents causing death.
I always find it hard to explain to people why this is such an incredible aircraft to witness in person. Its shape, the sounds, the speed, the fact that you can actually feel it pulling air from around you if it's close enough....
Exactly. Love the F-104
Because she's a badass!
How it flies with those gnat wings.
@@jakerazmataz852 Pure speed
I believe its a Difficult plane to fly, requires a lot of concentration.
No words can describe how much I love this jet!
They did not want to keep any F104 in Taiwan,because this jet killed too many pilots.
@@user-ne8rq9hm3zsame goes for Germany I believe
@@jinramen0317 and I don't know why F104 killed many pilots in German and Taiwan,but it didn't cause many accidents in Italy before.Those F104 bought from Japan cause many kills in Taiwan.
@@user-ne8rq9hm3z lack of proper training I know was this issue with Germany. Very unforgiving aircraft.
@@Helicopterpilot16 I heard that it's a jet that is hard to handle.I think it's why Taiwan likes jets with twin engines.
I suggest Tom Cruise buy a F104 to fly for joy.
I grew up in Palmdale California, where the F-104s were flight tested. My neighbor was Lockheed test-pilot Glenn Reaves, and got to watch one of his training flights with the German pilots from the Lockheed control tower. It was such a beautiful plan, and the J79 howl made it unique. Good times.
The star fighter was built to intercept high altitude bombers during the Cold War its rate of climb from take off was unmatched, basically like launching a rocket as well as its rate of speed , not very maneuverable but wasn’t designed for dogfights.
Pretty sure the EE Lightening have a higher rate of climb?
Sounds like what War Thunder players would call a boom-and-zoom fighter.
Canadian here we bought them for low level ground attack and paid the price
@@tophatanimation8748 No .. EE Lightning was much less .. The main thing people refer to was a completely stripped bare Lightning prototype. There is a reason why F104 owned all time to height records for decades until some taken by F4 and then the F15.
@@kwc1138F-4? I never would have guessed
As their flight surgeon in the 60ies I was fortunate to get a ride to 50k and a speed of Mach 2. Once on the ground I was treated to a throw in the near by creek!! What a fraternity to join!!
any chance you were at Tinker AFB from 66-70?
@@PolPotsPieHole Concorde 9/5/2003 FUN !! Mach 2 for 2 hrs..😁😁😁😁
My father had over 1000hrs flying CF104 and the CF104d. I inherited his flight log book. He also bailed out of one in 1964...( bird strike )
Cool ! (except the fact you "inherited" his log book, sorry for that)
My neighbour is a retired colonel from the Belgian Air Force, he used to fly on those jets, F-104, Mirage II-III-IV, Gloster Meteor...
He has a lot of photographs I scan to share with his former colleagues.
A pity I can't share those, it's "private" almost like still classified... I have to respect that.
That 4-plane flyby is one of the best combination of the old and the new that I have ever seen.
I find it so interesting that the F-104 has such a visible smoke plume behind it while in the air. With it flying next to the more modern fighters you can really tell how more efficient their engines are!
That's because it's not at its optimal burn rate... engine is probably not even and a quarter power like through its flight except at take with its afterburn.
@@takodac2469 Jet engines were just smokey for a while. The fuel mixing just wasn't very good. The afterburner is able to burn the soot, so you can't see it.
The J79s always smoked like that. The F4s were twice as bad with two engines. It still looks great tho, looks like the good old days. Man they need to get a couple of them flying in the U.S. just love the Howlll and their looks.
The F-4 Phantom (old smokey) had 2 J-79's. Awesome aircraft but NVA AA gunners could spot 'em easily.
The Russians still smoke
The F 104 is one of the most beautiful planes ever
With the F4 U Corsair.
Even in Japan, the F104 was a beloved and iconic fighter jet for many people. The nickname for the F104 in Japan was “Eiko”. It translates to “Glory” in English.
I am Japanese and the F104 is one of my favorite fighters. JASDF's old fighters had some pet names, but they were rarely familiar by that name. The members and aviation enthusiasts of the time called him Zero-Four exclusively.
He also had the nickname "widowmaker" and "flying coffin"
@@markbesedin9397 ??
konichiwa
it was known as widowmaker in germanies airforce... so many of them crashed.
it was a dangerous plane, a piece of shit.
@@markbesedin9397 the Germans called them Widowmakers. Half of their fleet crashed.
… and entered service just 13 years after WWII ? Pretty amazing how quickly technology developed in such a short period of time.
It's still the fastest aircraft at sea level. Nothing surpassed it.
What a sound! What an incredible aircraft!
Dang.. even the F-86 burns cleaner than the F-104.
I remember the Starfighter often used to fly past my home, when I was a kid. It was like looking at airplane from the future. I think the Starfighter is the reason I love airplanes, and still have to look up EVERY time I hear an airplane. :)
It will always be from the future !
I can relate with you. Growing up I watch C-5's and A-10's flying about. In the Navy I served with the A-4 Skyhawk. Anytime I hear a military jet flying over I look up as well, with a certain joy!
It is from the future. Kelly Johnson designed it. Johnson came here from the 25th century.
Didn't know there was still one flying. ! Thanks for posting ! In Holland they actually used that howl as a weapon in 1977, when forcing an end to a train hijacking. 6 Starfighters made a low pass. It scared the shit out of the hijackers, so special forces could utilize the confusion to go in. 3 Minutes later their job was done.
Epic story!
I think there's another one in Norway.
@@awuma
Thats correct.
CF-104D 637, now with callsign Lima-november-sierra-tango-foxtrot is operational.
It wasn't the howl, it were the afterburners used to disorient the hijackers.
I believe this is just one of many in Starfighter Inc's fleet. If I remember right, this was a TF-104G that originally served with the Italian Air Force
Was just at the Palm Springs Air Museum. They have an F104. Had never seen one in person before. Could not believe how small it is. The wings are tiny! And incredibly thin airfoil section. An incredible tech achievement to get everything into such a small package to do its job. This video is excellent!
I work at the Scania truck factory here in the Netherlands. Close by there is a college and in front of it there is a Starfighter on static display. It is a former Royal Netherlands Airforce plane. Still in its original color and markings. It really is a flying rocket.
I was in Neuburg a.d. Donau stationed as a conscript at Jagdgeschwader 74 and responsible for the Starfighter's on-board radar 😀Thanks for the contribution 👍
Such an epic aircraft. I’ve only seen pictures of it. Thanks for posting the video
Love this, thanks for posting 👍
Howdy and great vid...I remember quite a while ago at the Abbotsford BC airshow a F-104 opened the festivities by doing a flyby at just above the tree tops and just barely under the sound barrier..Well there were people on the deck some crying, what an entrance and I still remember this. The same year the An 225 and Soukoi were there. WOW what a plane.Thanks Kelly Johnson..
Stunning machine. Timeless. And that howl.😎🖤
Hmm..that howl we could dispense with.
👍👏Thank you for this beautiful little video! The plane is very promising! It's worth the wait thank you👨🏼✈️
The Practica show (Italian Air Force 100th anniversary) was probably one of the best shows I have been to in Europe.....
As a kid I had the opportunity to experience both the 104 and the Saab 35 Draken, since the Danish airforce had them both.
From the 104's i saw some exciting high speed chasing. A lot of these above mach 1.
I also had the pleasure to watch two Saab 35 Draken playing war over my local fjord for several minutes.
They were performing cobras, and other outstanding manoeuvres.
- What great things to observe, 👍🙂
Was one of the highlights at Oshkosh in the 90s seeing two matching Star Fighters fly. Totally unexpected. AMissile
Best sounding jet in the pattern...you cant miss that howling J-79.
That was pretty badass, I'm flying one in MSFS and the sound is true to life. The high speed landings are fun and hitting that drag chute really helps the F-104 drop anchor very nicely.
I've always loved the Starfighter. Thank you for this video.
I have been in the Italian Air Force from 1980 to 2000. From 1987 I was at that airport, Pratica di Mare. I have seen the F104 flying hundreds of times there and elsewhere, and every time i found myself watching it, always amazed at the whole show.
I was tdy to Gioia Del Colle air base in Italy for displayed determination in 1983, this was their primary fighter and they were cool to watch. They used to taxi with no brakes, our f4 pilots said this thing was hard to catch since they were so fast. That was one of the best tdy’s I was ever on, the towns people weren’t used to Americans and they treated us great, right down in the heel of the boot, was a field tdy but what a blast we had.
OMG the howling of the engine... it brings back soooo many memories... when I was on holidays in the southern part of The Netherlands and saw and heard the famous F 104... chills down my spine.
Please send this plane to The Netherlands!!
I want to experience goosebumps in real life :)
I miss that howl.
Better is that huge BLOWING by the Eurofighter.A take off by ONE machine makes the whole bottom of the air base rumble.Blocking your ears? No use.....the sound goes through your guts.
Geniale Aufnahmen. Was ein umwerfendes Flugzeug, was ein einzigartiger Sound. 😎👍
😎👍
Thanks for sharing. That sound is quite unique!
I worked on the F-105 stationed at Nellis. We often had 104s come in. I always stopped what I was doing to watch and listen. It's great that one is flying again. I wish we could say the same for a F-105. Maybe one day.
I got to see Italian F-104's fly when I was in Cervia AB for a while. Really cool to see.
You gotta have balls of steel to get behind the wheel of one of these things, amazing, what a treat !
wow, what a sound. hard to top that
Lovely sound👍❤️!
The amazing Howl! It’s like the difference when you see a really built out muscle car thumping by. Un matched! Love this plane sleek fast and good in the eyes and ears.
Nothing sounds like it. Beautiful Sound. Brings back old memories. Thanks & Best Regards.
👏👏👌👏....absolutely beautiful video, love the Starfighter...it's an iconic fighter aircraft!!!...and that's a hell of a great howl / sound coming from that engine!!!👌👏...wicked!!!💥💥💯!!!..many thanks pal for sharing!!!.... show more of this plane!!😁📸👌
Hi.... from Denmark.
We visit the German Luftfahrtmuseum Wernigerode in the Harz almost every year, and they have a couple of the F-104 STARFIGHTER's on display there.... and every time it boggles my mind how HUGE they actually are.... it's like a huge jet engine with a pilot up front !!
Such great video. An amazing part of aviation history.
I was a kid in Denmark in the late '60s. And we had these in the Danish airforce. And dad was in the airforce (below ground). We lived in the countryside and when we heard a couple of F104's howling by he said "Boy....that sound....that is the sound of peace" - And i was 5-6 years....and didn't understand.....just wondered why it sounded like that
F-104 Star Fighter still is a beautiful aircraft.
It is !
Absolutely awesome. That made me go cold watching that. That howl was amazing. I am so lucky to have seen these flying back in the day and to have heared that awesome sound. I miss these. So nice to see one back where it belongs, in the sky. Thank you for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Grazie mille!
L'inconfondibile suono delle turbine del mitico F-104 Starfighter che rmho conosciuto...che ricordo e che ho riascoltato ora in video....il suo sorvolo sembrava un lamento...un pianto......talvolta un ragliare come un asino😂😂😂😂😂 qui in Sardegna nel Medio campidano ci passavano in testa essendo allora come ora linea aerea militare e civile ...elicotteri annessi.....i 50 li ho passati da molto, e perciò ne parlo... !
What an AWESOME demo! Also, this is one beautiful plane, that looks fast, just sitting still, and, I'm amazed that the J79 engine has enough power to bounce the aircraft during a static engine test.
As a youth, growing up in 50's-60's, I was fascinated with any and all air craft and the F-104 was one of my favorites. I never thought I would actually see one in the air, but when I was stationed in Germany with the US Air Force back in 1976-1979, one of our alerts was started when a German F-104 came across our air field at the same lever as the water tower. THAT was an awesome sight! I'll never for get it.
Thank you!!!
What a feast for the eyes and ears. I love it. Memories of the JaboG 32 on the Lechfeld.🤙👌
During my time with the Dutch Royal Airforce (dienstplicht) they already switched to the F-16. But during my training in Arnhem at the LETS, I got to sit in de cockpit of a F-104. I still remember the smell of this amazing plane.
Awesome jet so ahead of its time
Beautiful aircraft. Bloody hell I’m old…. Lucky enough to witness most of these Cold War jets flying.
I was there too, 9.30 in the morning and Piercarlo was already doing the engine tests❤
Great aircraft. And also a very nice flute. :)
Absolutely marvellous and cool 😎
I love that Fly-By-Sound of the Starfighter. It's his characteristic. If you can't see him, you can recognize him by his sound.
A very nice video 👍. I'm deeply impressed.
This is one of the few videos I have seen that properly captures the howl.
Awesome fly over!
An amazing aircraft! I'm a huge fan.
Thank you.
Simply gorgeous in flight!
Refueled Italian 104’s when I was at Aviano AB in 1980-82. Seemed like a rocket with seating for one!
I saw "Starfighters" at Reno a number of years ago. There were two of them then. The demonstration was somewhat curtailed due to high winds in the afternoon.
Kelly Johnson's masterpiece, that and the SR-71. Hats off to you, Mr. Johnson!!! All were created on paper with a slide rule instead of computers.
So I know you say J79 howl like that was normal, but that seemed excessive. Like it goes away at just before it taxis, and is gone until you hear it abruptly hear it start back at 5:01 and not only that but at 5:26 you can hear an audible pop and the squeal drops about 1/2 a note. Sounds like maybe it lost a tooth in there or something. Glad you were there for this and didn't wait, and be disappointed it didn't fly again! Thanks for sharing!
The wings were so small it used 'bleed' air from the turbine to blow out via tiny holes in the wing to maintain laminar flow and ensure aileron effectiveness at low airspeed. Amazing stuff!
sorta funky looking sitting on the ground, watching it fly, its an arrow. very futuristic. very cool.
Seeing the silhouette of the 104 with the other aircraft, it was spooky looking. One wild design.
Pilot stands up in the cockpit and waves to the crowd: “yay, I survived!”
I had the pleasure of witnessing some F-104 action from up close in I think it was 1985, man, the chest-pounding afterburner ...
Later I had some nearby NF-5 and F-16 experiences, but this felt the most extreme
I remember that sound when i did my service to my country in Araxos Greece. This is 35 years ago.
WHAT A SOUND only the widow can make, LOVE IT
I coludn't find any words to describe this sound. Awesome ❤
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So cool!
My first gig as an air traffic controller back in 1980 was on Okinawa. The JASDF flew F104Js. We learned pretty quick to get everything out of their way.
エンジン音に痺れます。戦闘機での性能云々はありますが大好きな飛行機です。
ダックテールのツンとした後姿がたまりません。
Great sound
F16 and F104 two of the most beautiful fighters ever conceived!
Beautiful jet!
Own... the kiss to the bird at the end... Such a love letter for the F104
This never gets old!
when I was a kid I loved these and crusaders - awesomeness
Stick & Rudder, Needle, Ball and Airspeed. That’s real flying!
I remember a few years back when this aircraft was a regular sight over Pinellas county as it was out of KPIE airport.
amazing plane. As a young kid I was a bit afraid of it. Lived close to Leeuwarden Airbase in the Netherlands
The F 104 was unmistakable in every way! Especially that engine.
Because it was unforgiving. No mistakes allowed, no showboating, strictly within the prescribed limits. Darwin's survival of the fittest (smartest).
Excellent Ground Dart.
Such a great looking plane
beautiful wings!
Lots of them sitting in museums. I saw several this past summer, in Edmonton and Dayton.
Had those stationed at air national gaurd base at niagara Falls airport.! Interceptor. the sound was unique !
I remember, as a kid, seeing four RCAF Canadair Starfighters at the Goodwood airshow (here in the UK) in 1973
I am just reading an aircraft book where the pilot gets an exchange with the Dutch Air force flying these, He was mightily impressed with them. I was amazed to read how much range they had, really impressive beasts
My favorite diecast model to play with as a boy, that and my Hellcat's.