Life is real only then,when I Am Talk 1
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024
- Audiobook reading by Harold
"With the contents of the third series of books to share the possibilities which I had discovered of touching reality and, if so desired, even merging with it." Gurdjieff
What about that institute now..?… I will personally will love to be involved in that interesting work - research … specially about - human body healings …..very interested ….🌞
Enlightenment is not a competition but a commonality.
Complete nonsense
That is the end of that.
What was your motive for relieving yourself of that bare asserrtion?
So what? - Where and what is your syllogism?
I'm not convinced that Mr Gurdjieff was that keen on that rather silly word "enlightened" - as often as not men (human beings) use that silly word without having any clear idea what they mean by it at all
It seems to me that you either understand or you don't and the essence Mr Gurdjieff's teaching or ideas is that it takes more than one function to understand anything - plus a certain slippery something or secret ingredient, which he managed to keep a a closely guarded secret - or certainly I have no idea what it is; or I don't get the joke, - presumably because I'm dreaming all the time.
A syllogism makes a person think for himself.we can't love gurjeiff together. I can't do your work for you. My point: we're all born enlightened,we solidify in order to survive.( Enlightenment the opposite of solidification). Enlightenment is a common condition. A symptom of owning the question. (Being human is a fools errand.) Understanding is a function of many different aspects of our being. This knowledge (OR WISDOM) makes self observation possible. (As well , self absorbed less likely)this self observation is the "essence of Mr. Gurjeiff's teaching.
P.s. I'm wingin it peter.
I read this book. The more further I read, I went on thinking I am not getting the point.
What you mean by "thinking"? You will not understand anything using the associative apparatus, but what else have you got? When Giorgivanitch was asked what are You trying to convey, replied that it was To get men understand that when it rains the pavements get wet.
Is not not getting the point (or perhaps the joke) the story of your life? What is your aim?
I don't know what I want. I mean I know but I can't verbalize it. It is something that I have tried to ignore, but it cannot be ignored either. It constantly asks me to search, to seek. But I don't know where to search where to find it.
That search brought me to this book. My thoughts couldn't go with it, therefore I commented that comment.
Perhaps the verbosity of these lectures is designed to scare off those unworthy of enlightenment.
He does bury the bones deep.Compels genuine attention and effort.
On the other hand, he may simply be deficient at organizing and communicating his thoughts.
Gurdjieff's writing is purposefully dense; he never trusted words to convey deeper meaning and he did not wish to simplify his exposition for a deceptive 'accessibility. Sadly, he is not here in person to utilize the full force of his presence to mobilize the attention.
Bizarrely circular and mundane. WHAT is anyone supposed to get out of listening/reading this?
Not one word that leads to anything, complete goblygook
Happy now?
If it generates the reaction dislike in the relevant function, why you bother to listen to at all?Assuming that no one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to listen to it.
One word that leads.?
You want me to hold your hand?
Your not alone, and that is reality.
Reality sucks right?
What is your reality.
Sorry. Your cool.
P.s, you forgot there's a "d" in the word "gobbledygook".
Peace out 😆
Aha, I see. Those words should be reade, not listen to. This takes to much effort, for a swedish brain (:
No. Unnecessary elaboration the slightest points. Makes me wonder if it was a translation.
Of course it's a translation, he did not write in English.
In any event, his is an oral tradition
@@vhawk1951kl I’m not sure that it’s true it’s meant to be an oral tradition. Gurdjieff himself writes that after his automobile accident he realized that his prior efforts were not effective at communicating what he aimed to teach. He then closed his school and set out to write All and Everything. I believe he intended to pass on his teaching through his books.