So funny how if the ASMR is done by a man, jerkoffs like this guy make snarky comments. But if it’s a woman, they romanticize and act like they want to drink her bath water. 🙄
This is one of the most phenomenal interviews I've ever seen, both of them were so articulate and legitimately emotionally connected. From the intriguing subject matter to the beautiful dialogue and music, everything had me captivated. I loved this.
I met Gurdjieff's nephew a few years back and recently made a film about it, which maybe of interest for those of you studying Gurdjieff's teachings. It's called The time I spent with Gurdjieff's nephew, also called George ". Thank you, Noel
Gail Needleman's interpretation of the music is, in my experience, extraordinarily penetrative and transformative. The interview is, for me, enriching.
I use Gurdjieff as an introduction to my work, his ideas regarding the psychology of man is truly profound. However, I found Spinoza has a method of awakening the mind from sleep. Learn how: WayofSpinoza.com
@@halwarner3326 ...FRET NOT, FOR TIME IS MALEABLE TO ITS 'PROPER USE' (SORRY FOR MEANINGLESS capsloc).... i think (just) one of the mysterious anomalies We encounter on this plane when We are/or try to BE, ATTEMPTING to use words to introduce & explicate matters of a/the greater, true reality of Our ineffable existence here, is that (almost) Time no longer rules-over Us (as it normally does), no longer is the only (& inescapable) Absolute...in a Very real sense (& i think this is at least part-of) that which he is struggling to 'put-into-words', is an unexpected quality of that (normally so-implacable) Unhumble-Ruler, Time's, always right self-belief in its power, which Time seems constrained-to never relent about its superiority-over-all-else, marching unchangeable & ultimate, ever-forward..... but if/when We Do just sit/stop/relax & allow that place in Us which We have kept the key to (the door-to Our contentment/fulfillment, and ultimately satisfaction with, hidden-from view by Our (fearsome & unbribable) soldier of Truth, & the confidence which IT never doubts or knows-no-limit-to is a (this will sound straight bug-fuk crazy to say, but nonetheless, i Must say it!) power/control-over [ even the Great & Powerful, Mighty OZ-WITHIN-US) TIME, AS WELL AS (aN ABILITY, or ..authority-to) redefine the birth of Time, as right in that moment; and because We are ("normally") unable to shake the authority-of TIME, but in that moment, Time offers to 'lift her skirt to/for Us', and actually 'start-at-zero' on the clock, and thereby, no matter how Long it might have taken Us to arrive-at this place, the Master, TIME, knows & Respects OUR Redefinition-of-AUTHORITY (OVER it), so that in all real senses We still have a lifetime to follow-this-trail...and the Universe, even the UNiverse, will properly-respect the purity-of Our power to re-create Ourselves in what evah form, We wish.... ...so, hal, fear-not, ***cliche-alert**** tomorrow truly is/can be the first day of the rest of Our/your life, and since We are/represent the raison-d'etre for all of Creation, We are always issued a hall-pass for true, personal development.... (i sure hope that made-enough-sense for you to get my drift...)
Jacob Needleman has a unique way of bringing to life some of the key ideas of this teaching, from a felt and being sense so that it reverberates inside you in the same way. There is much here to get an inkling from the depth of this teaching, not only through the sheer power of the spiritual tenets expounded upon, but through the heartfelt and embodied presence of this man who has given his entire life to understand, live and transmit this teaching. The piano piece is played to almost perfection.
Most of the time I say People are really stupid. But after seeing this. I feel that I have gained hope for Humanity. There are actually people out there that can conduct themselves peacefully and live harmoniously . Intellectuals that actually search for the deeper meaning of life. That want to enjoy it for the passion, and understand existence the metaphysical foundation of Nature and Beauty. and for that. I am Grateful. Thank You. Namaste'
@fynes leigh What are you, 12 ? What in the fuck impelled you to paste that malignant, egomaniacal bullshit ? Good God, you've the sophistication of an abacus.
@@NewSchoolCommonweal Thank the for sharing this. Woke up today and knew something different was going to happen! 02:08:23 And not just the Sun being out for the second time in months! Getting ready to do laundry, up popping a Gurdjieff dance troop i 👁 subscribed to year's and years ago. But haven't heard or seen anything from until this morning. The demonstration was filmed from last year but only posted today! Then up popping this, your post of this lecture! Here you are with the Teachings that i👁 was so dedicated to for so many years. Then 15 years ago found myself out in the middle of the Labyrinth of Life, Like many folk's did at that time! With questions and confusion and an economic crisis caused by greedy investors and banks! Everything fell apart for millions. It was like a global financial Tsunami! Then we faced this Global pandemic and the lockdowns then debated the vaccines! Anyway i 👁 truly learned many deeply brutal and enlightened lessons during these past 15 year's! Have come through, survived stronger, calmer and more forced about everything. Even despite the ongoing Threat of a 3rd World War, or the Ukrainian war to develop into the use of Nuclear weapons! Very troubling! But I stay grounded. Because for me losing everything and everyone, for a period of time, and being out in the wilderness, alone, had a deeply profound effect on me. Really help me see, like truly see and feel everything again, like a child, but differently, to be elevated, and a transformation of Heart, Mind, Spirit and Soul occurred! Being taken down to ones knees and having to stand up alone and walk strong and tall will really open your eyes! So today having my, our, beloved George Gurdjieff, pop up, with his music, his dances and now these lectures, is like having a someone and something that i 👁 truly loved, returning from a long voyage, at exactly the right time! Feeling so blessed! Yes, totally agree, listening to the music, and doing the dance movements are wonderful ways to connect with Gurdjieffs work. The dances are like a moving meditation! Okay, Thank you again. Namaste! Bless your heart and Soul! Sorry if this was too long of a comment. Truly grateful that you have shared these lectures! 🇨🇦🐈
I feel deeply grateful and indebted for your uploading all these conversations with Professor J. Needleman. Here, it is written that this is the fourth conversation, and I have listened only to other two: one titled "Time and the Soul: A Spiritual Biography", uploaded on 2/8/2015, and a second titled "Who Am I? Why Am I Here?", uploaded on 15/12/2015 ; so, obviously, I miss one the four conversations for which, I must confess, I am craving to listen to. I also must confess that, for the last 3-4 months, I can't help watching and listening to these three videos, every day (honestly, every day) almost learning many passages by heart and seeing (amazed) the impact and the influence that this man exerts on my existence. I am yearning to finding the fourth one that I miss... I wish I could meet this wonderful person face to face and live his presence and be taught by him, but it is impossible as thousands of miles separate us. However, I am deeply, deeply grateful to Pr. Needleman and to your channel. I already have bought 3 of his books, translated in greek, and have ordered many other of his books in english from Amazon, looking forward to their arrival to Greece. THANK YOU, from the deepest of my heart, both to NewSchoolCommonweal and Pr. Needleman!!!
I wish I had this real attention again. Because I know exactly what he means. I call it love. I call it I see you. I never made it to making another body in the body (making a baby) but now that I am almost dying I must say I thank you George Gurdjieff for freeing me for just a few years of my life. Thank you Alan Watts thank you Osho thank you Terrance McKenna. Oh and to be clear about suffering: it is suffering it doesn't matter in what form it comes. Right suffering is suffering for your own health family friends nature and animals. Other ways of suffering is suffering which ultimately leads to a painful and lonely death.
This has been a wonderful and stimulating discussion. I especially enjoyed hearing Gail Neddleman's beautiful and sensitive performance of Gurdjieff's music. I had never heard any of it until now. My interest is piqued and drawn to know about Gurdjieff and his ideas. Thank you!
... i am 100% sure that any further exploration of this amazing human, & The Gift he has to share with any who can sense its power, will be one of the Most-gratifying, ever... mazel tov & okole maluna ("bottoms-up" in Hawai'ian) on your new journey...
Had to chuckle at Jacob's initial difficulty understanding Lord Pentland. I had jumped at the chance of getting a copy of Exchanges Within, consisting of questions and and answers over several decades from the West Coast groups and LP. Imagine my dismay at finding the same puzzling barrier. After some time and much personal reorientation, a small breakthrough appeared and has continued to progress and even broaden. But it also becomes clearer that even when the "how" is known, that only means the work is just beginning. Thanks for the company!
@@vhawk1951kl "matter" in the most-essential sense, concerning the Only path available to Our/one's true role-in-this-Universe...Gurjieff was Never about cajoling/pressuring/manipulating anyone into following him...this stuff is Only for those with eyes-to-see, and Know & Value-it !
@@vhawk1951kl To those that are suffering eternal damnation and torment, The numbers are rising and the story is repeating, again and again and again, but Sheep are being devoured by the Wolves currently at this part of the cycle And the Shepard's just maintain the Echo of the narrative that tells the whole story The funny thing is the Wolves can only interpret life literally so the Shepard's hid the message in plain sight
@@vhawk1951kl The Druids, oral Tradition "its raining cats and dogs" "your barking up the wrong tree" "little Bo beep has lost her sheep and does not know where to find them, leave them alone they will come home, wagging their tails, behind them" "some people cant see past the end of their nose" Can I ask have you ever been able to grasp any real narrative from "G" ? Any real understanding or do you think its literal ? Like tell me what the word SIN means ?
My difficult to understand English in some way I loose the content but in this video had ocurred a magical moment where I could understand not only English but ALSO the profound of the message. I will see it again,
Young people,read,train,practice,the only way,the peaceful way of change is determined deep inside,blessimgs on you all,may the eternal light be inside you all
Gurdjieff indeed, his writings are worthy of study. One may go deeper. Christ Principles, go to the core if viewed from presence. Which is Gurdjieff’s essential teaching.
Gail's performance of Gurdjieff is breathtaking. Thank you for having the camera beside her. Do you know if she has her own CD with this? If so, I'd be grateful for the link. (And of course Michael's spaceholding is beautiful, and Dr. Jerry's sharing ... deepening.) Thank you so much for these interviews.
Whoever has listened to the whole series, does he talk about his results from the work? His level of self remembering, utilizing shocks, overcoming sleep and mechanization, crystalizing into man #4 and beyond? Haven't heard anything yet. Gurdjieff was very focused on results. And just as I would get pointing out instructions, in the Buddhist world, from someone who already has achieved a level of awakening and non-duality above mine, I would like to receive Gurdjieff's teachings from someone who has awakened through the fourth way.
True knowledge is very limited in distribution Lots know the façade inside and out, but have no experience with the bends EF and BC in the octave In fact the number of people on the planet that know how octaves work could be as little as 5 or even less Because the experience that teaches is a miracle in of itself I cannot tell you to do what happened to me, because I would not wish that on my worst enemy And the same is with "G" you cant do what he did , to learn But the real teachings are the same everywhere , To become enlightened about oneself to remember our lives in its entirety You have to relax and that means giving up all associations with the left PFC But as "G" mentions in "Search for the miraculous" there is another way that's a lot faster , but the results can be incorrect if correct teachings are not given
Wonderful conversation thank you for sharing it.. I’m curious about the instrument that Gail plays, the sound has a different resonance from a normal piano.
Prof. Needleman, I'm not sure your calling elections "suffering" was really a joke. It reminded me of the time I went to the polls, voted for the candidate that had been nominated by my party, and then went home and broke down and cried for what I had had to do!
😂I am suffering now ….through some feeling of taste -of joy - and all these is leading to become more conscious in the transformation of human conscious -to save the Earth -in human soul with self remembrance - what a human being’s task ? -is here on the Earth …..such a beautiful interpretation ….🌞
Attention to the intention is the key to everything we do.” *Not* attributed to Gurdjieff, by anyone with any experience of whatever Giorgivsnic was, which was definitely*Not* trite and banal, Better attribute it to some dreaming wiseacre avec les idees au dsessus sa gare much given to the trite and banal. ‘Ekh, Brother! Here on the Earth if you speak the truth you’re a great fool, whereas if you wriggle with your soul you are only a “scoundrel,” though also a big one. So it is best of all to do nothing, but just recline on your divan and learn to sing like the sparrow that had not yet turned into an American canary." Isn’t it all one to the poor flies how they are killed? By a kick of the hooves of horned devils, or by a stroke of the beautiful wings of divine angels?
To be physically embodied defines suffering, we all suffer, from the impermence of life and usually a painful death. Psychological suffering is usually an ego attachment problem, one of self identity , attachment to the pleasure principle causing addiction. To be of serve to humanity in a small or large way, depending on your talents and abilities is hitting the bulls eye; we can experience happiness that is long lasting and unconditional through serve to others.
What I learned from G work: The moment a particle is a wave; it has to be a conscious wave! Gravity is the conscious attraction among waves to create the illusion of particles, and our experience-able Universe. Max Planck states: "Consciousness is fundamental and matter is derived from Consciousness". Life is the Infinite Consciousness, experiencing the Infinite Possibilities, Infinitely. We are "It", experiencing our infinite possibilities in our finite moment. Our job is to make it interesting!
If you want to understand what he means you should read what Gurdjieff wrote about sleep and energy in "Views from the real world". Also you repeating why is it so bad why is it so bad like a mongoloid isn't helping you get further understanding unless you try and answer your questions.
Hi Sir. Is he awake? Intermediate awakening is possible for everyone. But the great awakening is for few. It is true that the flow of thoughts does not stop. And the man in his ordinary state of attention is incapable of noticing and getting rid of it. Deluded, he lives under the belief that he is master of himself - mere illusion. He doesn't realize he's just a machine reacting physically, emotionally and cognitively to the world around him. Absorbed by passions, urged and sustained in turn by the ceaseless activity of the thinking, he follows his life asleep - infinitely distant from God and at the same time one step away from Him.
@fynes leigh actually it's the exact opposite, just observe what you can & study what you can't observe every living thing & it's accordance to 1 another & the earth and you will see its all for the benefit the inner transformsnce of us to. Your intuition will slap the Ego outta of your intellect and you'll inner knowing will know what another that knows his or her inner knowing knows
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." -- after Mike Tyson ( ಠ ͜ʖಠ) www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fl-xpm-2012-11-09-sfl-mike-tyson-explains-one-of-his-most-famous-quotes-20121109-story.html
What we are only just realising, is that certain types of sleep are actually mass suicide , Some are aware of the set, and how mans population growth means you fall out of the set , become unstable and this means extinction, but we can choose to sleep eternally in eternal existence and fulfill our purpose , or we can bottle it and let the machine kill itself
Why imagine that the *source* of love - or intelligence for that matter, can be found in men(human beings)? If it be right that that source lies *within* them, perhaps that is why they experience little but peace, prosperity, harmony, understanding and dancing through rainbows of laughing joy, and never die like dogs. If the source lies without them, then what? Are within and without different?
fynes leigh thank you… She is patient just as we are hers, recuperating amidst this sickness we have fostered on her forever giving… There is truth in blue and green, with ears upon every solemn being, awaiting in our action, an utterance that rings to permeate the universal, as our apologetic divine No one can do this alone, this work requires help from each other, from others… we needn’t experience that ominous shock known to us all as existent, at the terminus of this chosen trajectory, connecting with emptiness to be get a sense of the full? When in releasing the need for possession, do we realise what fullness we are a part of
fynes leigh perhaps, perhaps we are just living in the dream of a handful of people who wanted the world to go at certain way, for their dreams to be for field…… Before action and construction, there must always be a dream.
I read quite a bit of Gudjeiffs and Ouspenskys works. Much of it had merit but then it became so far out I just had to let it go. Some of the tenets I still adhere to. First we have to agree on what is music lol?
What is awakening ? Snd the answer is not some absolute or relative mastery over the machine and its reactive emotions. Answer is do you know what second conscious shock is and what the consequences of the successful transition is, if not one has not understood the work. This is what gurdjieff says thru ouspemdky as the juncture where “real” work begins
Bealzububs tales to his grandson he is speaking to his sperm in the future. The new age version is Rick and Morty. Beautiful said about what is free and attention.
These men are making Gurdjieffs ideas and works far more complex than it needs to be, Gurdjieff said clearly most people do not want to wake up and or basically just lazy and simply refuse to think. We see this everywhere we look today as well, so he simply pointed out simple truths of human behavior and commonality of their own forms of insanity accepted as the norm. Human being not doing
Actually I found this discussion the opposite of complex. It was a deep, thoughtful and reflective discussion delving into the core principles of what Gurgjieff taught.
We have to allow more space in our minds. In that space, we will observe more, learn and stay in peace. Simply staying in that state is a natural being for many Masters. They bear the fear inside and can control many other psychological troubles. Because they know identifying with the mind is a 'hell' state in this world.
Why is humanity aspleep, according to Gurdjieff. Do we have a defect? If we have lost our way why did we lose our way given other creatures on this planet appear to just get on with it without question? Or is there something sinister afoot which has caused this problem for humans?
I knew “ 😂mullah Nasradin”and listen this story when “very little I was -Abba “ -was telling us this specific story I remember and many this kind of life reaction giving stories - just to understand peacefully…..🌞
Yes he was translating the East to the Abrahamic that have forgotten the narrative Interestingly the east has forgotten the narrative as well So did we forget it or did the slavers kill everyone who knew ?
I understand the compassion that arises when seeing another struggling in life. But I don’t believe suffering is a necessary ingredient in this process of unfolding Being. That’s a misunderstanding in both the East and especially the West.
So moving, I had to get out my handgurdjieff.
Hahahahaha! I’m here all week.
Thank you for that chuckle :-)
So funny how if the ASMR is done by a man, jerkoffs like this guy make snarky comments. But if it’s a woman, they romanticize and act like they want to drink her bath water. 🙄
@@nilent Don't needle him, man. It was just a joke.
This is one of the most phenomenal interviews I've ever seen, both of them were so articulate and legitimately emotionally connected. From the intriguing subject matter to the beautiful dialogue and music, everything had me captivated. I loved this.
I met Gurdjieff's nephew a few years back and recently made a film about it, which maybe of interest for those of you studying Gurdjieff's teachings. It's called The time I spent with Gurdjieff's nephew, also called George ". Thank you, Noel
It would be great if you could upload it to RUclips
@@markusrose9667
I have. It's on my channel
Do you believe everyone that claims to be Gurdjieff's nephew? I hope you didn't give him any money.
This is the most informative explanation of Gurdjieff I have ever heard.
Thank you Mr. Needleman for helping me to understand Gurdjieff a little better and to feel it, think it and sense it a little more.
Gail Needleman's interpretation of the music is, in my experience, extraordinarily penetrative and transformative. The interview is, for me, enriching.
I use Gurdjieff as an introduction to my work, his ideas regarding the psychology of man is truly profound. However, I found Spinoza has a method of awakening the mind from sleep. Learn how: WayofSpinoza.com
Very good. Now what?
@@vhawk1951kl You might DO something arising from your needs, rather than asking 'now what'
holy smokes! never UNDERSTOOD the law of 3 until now. Thank you Mr. Needleman!
I love the purity of this interview. The responses and the questions. So heartfelt.
fynes leigh my fear I have wasted too many years.
fynes leigh
Row row row your boat...
gently down the stream...
merrily merrily merrily row.
Life is but a dream
@@halwarner3326 ...FRET NOT, FOR TIME IS MALEABLE TO ITS 'PROPER USE' (SORRY FOR MEANINGLESS capsloc).... i think (just) one of the mysterious anomalies We encounter on this plane when We are/or try to BE, ATTEMPTING to use words to introduce & explicate matters of a/the greater, true reality of Our ineffable existence here, is that (almost) Time no longer rules-over Us (as it normally does), no longer is the only (& inescapable) Absolute...in a Very real sense (& i think this is at least part-of) that which he is struggling to 'put-into-words', is an unexpected quality of that (normally so-implacable) Unhumble-Ruler, Time's, always right self-belief in its power, which Time seems constrained-to never relent about its superiority-over-all-else, marching unchangeable & ultimate, ever-forward..... but if/when We Do just sit/stop/relax & allow that place in Us which We have kept the key to (the door-to Our contentment/fulfillment, and ultimately satisfaction with, hidden-from view by Our (fearsome & unbribable) soldier of Truth, & the confidence which IT never doubts or knows-no-limit-to is a (this will sound straight bug-fuk crazy to say, but nonetheless, i Must say it!) power/control-over [ even the Great & Powerful, Mighty OZ-WITHIN-US) TIME, AS WELL AS (aN ABILITY, or ..authority-to) redefine the birth of Time, as right in that moment; and because We are ("normally") unable to shake the authority-of TIME, but in that moment, Time offers to 'lift her skirt to/for Us', and actually 'start-at-zero' on the clock, and thereby, no matter how Long it might have taken Us to arrive-at this place, the Master, TIME, knows & Respects OUR Redefinition-of-AUTHORITY (OVER it), so that in all real senses We still have a lifetime to follow-this-trail...and the Universe, even the UNiverse, will properly-respect the purity-of Our power to re-create Ourselves in what evah form, We wish....
...so, hal, fear-not, ***cliche-alert**** tomorrow truly is/can be the first day of the rest of Our/your life, and since We are/represent the raison-d'etre for all of Creation, We are always issued a hall-pass for true, personal development.... (i sure hope that made-enough-sense for you to get my drift...)
Who is watching this in 2024
Love for Gurdy from india, i have binge read all his books and i am a practising rajayogi
Jacob Needleman has a unique way of bringing to life some of the key ideas of this teaching, from a felt and being sense so that it reverberates inside you in the same way. There is much here to get an inkling from the depth of this teaching, not only through the sheer power of the spiritual tenets expounded upon, but through the heartfelt and embodied presence of this man who has given his entire life to understand, live and transmit this teaching. The piano piece is played to almost perfection.
Thanks Olivier! Glad you enjoyed it.
-Ken
Such a beautiful, insightful and profoundly interesting talk, and one so filled with genuine affection. Thank you for sharing yourselves!
Most of the time I say People are really stupid. But after seeing this. I feel that I have gained hope for Humanity. There are actually people out there that can conduct themselves peacefully and live harmoniously . Intellectuals that actually search for the deeper meaning of life. That want to enjoy it for the passion, and understand existence the metaphysical foundation of Nature and Beauty. and for that. I am Grateful. Thank You. Namaste'
@fynes leigh
What are you, 12 ?
What in the fuck impelled you to paste that malignant, egomaniacal bullshit ? Good God, you've the sophistication of an abacus.
They seem to have been replying to someone in the thread, whose messages are now removed.
You say:"People are really stupid." What do you suppose stupefies them and not you?Do you suppose that they *choose* to be stupefied?
elizabethe carlisle
Fynes is all over the place being an asshole today. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day for this person.
@@Elizabethecarlisle1045 wow. a lot of anger and hurt there
Rest in Paradise, Prof. Needleman ✨🌙💙
... and Gail, too.
🌍🍃🙏📿✨
This was such a valuable exchange. So thankful
Wonderful. Thanks for watching.
@@NewSchoolCommonweal Thank the for sharing this.
Woke up today and knew something different was going to happen! 02:08:23
And not just the Sun being out for the second time in months!
Getting ready to do laundry, up popping a Gurdjieff dance troop i 👁 subscribed to year's and years ago.
But haven't heard or seen anything from until this morning.
The demonstration was filmed from last year but only posted today!
Then up popping this, your post of this lecture!
Here you are with the Teachings that i👁 was so dedicated to for so many years.
Then 15 years ago found myself out in the middle of the Labyrinth of Life,
Like many folk's did at that time!
With questions and confusion and an economic crisis caused by greedy investors and banks!
Everything fell apart for millions.
It was like a global financial Tsunami!
Then we faced this Global pandemic and the lockdowns then debated the vaccines!
Anyway i 👁 truly learned many deeply brutal and enlightened lessons during these past 15 year's!
Have come through, survived stronger, calmer and more forced about everything.
Even despite the ongoing Threat of a 3rd World War, or the Ukrainian war to develop into the use of Nuclear weapons! Very troubling!
But I stay grounded.
Because for me losing everything and everyone, for a period of time, and being out in the wilderness, alone, had a deeply profound effect on me.
Really help me see, like truly see and feel everything again, like a child, but differently, to be elevated, and a transformation of Heart, Mind, Spirit and Soul occurred!
Being taken down to ones knees and having to stand up alone and walk strong and tall will really open your eyes!
So today having my, our, beloved George Gurdjieff, pop up, with his music, his dances and now these lectures, is like having a someone and something that i 👁 truly loved, returning from a long voyage, at exactly the right time!
Feeling so blessed!
Yes, totally agree, listening to the music, and doing the dance movements are wonderful ways to connect with Gurdjieffs work.
The dances are like a moving meditation!
Okay, Thank you again.
Namaste!
Bless your heart and Soul!
Sorry if this was too long of a comment.
Truly grateful that you have shared these lectures!
🇨🇦🐈
What a beautiful discussion... Thank you!
I feel deeply grateful and indebted for your uploading all these conversations with Professor J. Needleman. Here, it is written that this is the fourth conversation, and I have listened only to other two: one titled "Time and the Soul: A Spiritual Biography", uploaded on 2/8/2015, and a second titled "Who Am I? Why Am I Here?", uploaded on 15/12/2015 ; so, obviously, I miss one the four conversations for which, I must confess, I am craving to listen to. I also must confess that, for the last 3-4 months, I can't help watching and listening to these three videos, every day (honestly, every day) almost learning many passages by heart and seeing (amazed) the impact and the influence that this man exerts on my existence. I am yearning to finding the fourth one that I miss... I wish I could meet this wonderful person face to face and live his presence and be taught by him, but it is impossible as thousands of miles separate us. However, I am deeply, deeply grateful to Pr. Needleman and to your channel. I already have bought 3 of his books, translated in greek, and have ordered many other of his books in english from Amazon, looking forward to their arrival to Greece. THANK YOU, from the deepest of my heart, both to NewSchoolCommonweal and Pr. Needleman!!!
Monsieur Gurdjef, Messieurs Jacob Needleman et Mark Lerner, avec pianiste Gail Needleman, sont des heureuses découvertes pour moi.
Merci à vous tous.
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Outstanding. Enormously helpful to understand The Work & how to work. Thank you Jacob. X
I wish I had this real attention again. Because I know exactly what he means. I call it love. I call it I see you. I never made it to making another body in the body (making a baby) but now that I am almost dying I must say I thank you George Gurdjieff for freeing me for just a few years of my life. Thank you Alan Watts thank you Osho thank you Terrance McKenna. Oh and to be clear about suffering: it is suffering it doesn't matter in what form it comes. Right suffering is suffering for your own health family friends nature and animals. Other ways of suffering is suffering which ultimately leads to a painful and lonely death.
Thank you for sharing!
Bless your Heart and Soul!
🙏👁💞🕯
Wow I just learnt alot about life from two people talking about being human. Thanks
Thanks so much for this upload - Love, Love Mr. Needleman!!
it was most spiritual hearing i have ever attend to in my life
really enjoyed this, thank you!
This has been a wonderful and stimulating discussion. I especially enjoyed hearing Gail Neddleman's beautiful and sensitive performance of Gurdjieff's music. I had never heard any of it until now. My interest is piqued and drawn to know about Gurdjieff and his ideas. Thank you!
Very interesting, now what?- more stroking?- more warm words?
What does that feed?
... i am 100% sure that any further exploration of this amazing human, & The Gift he has to share with any who can sense its power, will be one of the Most-gratifying, ever... mazel tov & okole maluna ("bottoms-up" in Hawai'ian) on your new journey...
His music reminds me of Komitas
Had to chuckle at Jacob's initial difficulty understanding Lord Pentland. I had jumped at the chance of getting a copy of Exchanges Within, consisting of questions and and answers over several decades from the West Coast groups and LP. Imagine my dismay at finding the same puzzling barrier. After some time and much personal reorientation, a small breakthrough appeared and has continued to progress and even broaden. But it also becomes clearer that even when the "how" is known, that only means the work is just beginning. Thanks for the company!
I great interview and discussion on the only topics that really matter.
Matter to whom?
@@vhawk1951kl "matter" in the most-essential sense, concerning the Only path available to Our/one's true role-in-this-Universe...Gurjieff was Never about cajoling/pressuring/manipulating anyone into following him...this stuff is Only for those with eyes-to-see, and Know & Value-it !
@@vhawk1951kl To those that are suffering eternal damnation and torment,
The numbers are rising and the story is repeating, again and again and again,
but Sheep are being devoured by the Wolves currently at this part of the cycle
And the Shepard's just maintain the Echo of the narrative that tells the whole story
The funny thing is the Wolves can only interpret life literally so the Shepard's hid the message in plain sight
@@gratefulkm Who told you that and why do you believe them?-They are clearly insane.
@@vhawk1951kl The Druids, oral Tradition
"its raining cats and dogs"
"your barking up the wrong tree"
"little Bo beep has lost her sheep and does not know where to find them, leave them alone they will come home, wagging their tails, behind them"
"some people cant see past the end of their nose"
Can I ask have you ever been able to grasp any real narrative from "G" ?
Any real understanding or do you think its literal ?
Like tell me what the word SIN means ?
My difficult to understand English in some way I loose the content but in this video had ocurred a magical moment where I could understand not only English but ALSO the profound of the message. I will see it again,
Fab. Thank you ever so much.
Wisdom spoken with efforts of attention 💫 Beautiful
Wonderful to see Nail playing...thanks a lot
Gail not Nail, sorry...
Todo tipo de amor es trabajo!
All true love is work to get there!....
Am pleasantly surprised some youtubers have the patience to listen and the attention of the body and whole to receive.
I. am glad to hear a recognition of what my life’s journey says is true: we go on.
This was very useful, thank you.
In relation to what Aim?
Thank you!
Young people,read,train,practice,the only way,the peaceful way of change is determined deep inside,blessimgs on you all,may the eternal light be inside you all
Good both for sleep and waking up
Mr, Needleman, love you for your senceer explaination
sincere
why pick his english? you can see by the name that he's not a native speaker. your correction only makes you look like a snark.
I don't mind, maybe he is sincere in the senses, senceer , you know?
Gurdjieff indeed, his writings are worthy of study. One may go deeper. Christ Principles, go to the core if viewed from presence. Which is Gurdjieff’s essential teaching.
beautiful
Gail's performance of Gurdjieff is breathtaking. Thank you for having the camera beside her. Do you know if she has her own CD with this? If so, I'd be grateful for the link. (And of course Michael's spaceholding is beautiful, and Dr. Jerry's sharing ... deepening.) Thank you so much for these interviews.
Did you notice how much Time she had?
Nice talk to listen to 1st November 2024… invoking the Law of 3!
🙌🙌🙌 iam an awe
i remember gail was the teacher assistant for needleman at sfsu back in the 80s. hi, gail!!
It’s simply ❤️❤️❤️👏
Beautiful …far and familiar sounds - the soul sounds ….🌞
Whoever has listened to the whole series, does he talk about his results from the work? His level of self remembering, utilizing shocks, overcoming sleep and mechanization, crystalizing into man #4 and beyond? Haven't heard anything yet. Gurdjieff was very focused on results. And just as I would get pointing out instructions, in the Buddhist world, from someone who already has achieved a level of awakening and non-duality above mine, I would like to receive Gurdjieff's teachings from someone who has awakened through the fourth way.
Gurdjieff Foundations
Athos
True knowledge is very limited in distribution
Lots know the façade inside and out, but have no experience with the bends EF and BC in the octave
In fact the number of people on the planet that know how octaves work could be as little as 5 or even less
Because the experience that teaches is a miracle in of itself
I cannot tell you to do what happened to me, because I would not wish that on my worst enemy
And the same is with "G" you cant do what he did , to learn
But the real teachings are the same everywhere ,
To become enlightened about oneself to remember our lives in its entirety
You have to relax and that means giving up all associations with the left PFC
But as "G" mentions in "Search for the miraculous" there is another way that's a lot faster , but the results can be incorrect if correct teachings are not given
Beautiful…….🌞
Wonderful conversation thank you for sharing it.. I’m curious about the instrument that Gail plays, the sound has a different resonance from a normal piano.
It’s a Kawai 6 foot grand piano close mic’d in stereo. :)
Amazing.
Prof. Needleman, I'm not sure your calling elections "suffering" was really a joke. It reminded me of the time I went to the polls, voted for the candidate that had been nominated by my party, and then went home and broke down and cried for what I had had to do!
I Am Going To Know Him ….God is Amazing…..🌞
The question , what’s a meaning of my life ? Is not sometime but always arise 😔👏❤️
😂I am suffering now ….through some feeling of taste -of joy - and all these is leading to become more conscious in the transformation of human conscious -to save the Earth -in human soul with self remembrance - what a human being’s task ? -is here on the Earth …..such a beautiful interpretation ….🌞
Bless y'all. XO
“Attention to the intention is the key to everything we do.” attributed to Gurdjieff
Attention to the intention is the key to everything we do.” *Not* attributed to Gurdjieff, by anyone with any experience of whatever Giorgivsnic was, which was definitely*Not* trite and banal, Better attribute it to some dreaming wiseacre avec les idees au dsessus sa gare much given to the trite and banal.
‘Ekh, Brother! Here on the Earth if you speak the truth you’re a great fool, whereas if you wriggle with your
soul you are only a “scoundrel,” though also a big one. So it is best of all to do nothing, but just recline on your divan and learn to sing like the sparrow that had not yet turned into an American canary."
Isn’t it all one to the poor flies how
they are killed? By a kick of the hooves of horned devils,
or by a stroke of the beautiful wings of divine angels?
Amazing ……🌞
Thanks for this. Clinton around 1:16:00
1:22:00 Beelzebub
1:32:00 1:40:30
To be physically embodied defines suffering, we all suffer, from the impermence of life and usually a painful death. Psychological suffering is usually an ego attachment problem, one of self identity , attachment to the pleasure principle causing addiction. To be of serve to humanity in a small or large way, depending on your talents and abilities is hitting the bulls eye; we can experience happiness that is long lasting and unconditional through serve to others.
What was the temperature in the room?
What I learned from G work: The moment a particle is a wave; it has to be a conscious wave!
Gravity is the conscious attraction among waves to create the illusion of particles,
and our experience-able Universe.
Max Planck states: "Consciousness is fundamental and matter is derived from Consciousness".
Life is the Infinite Consciousness, experiencing the Infinite Possibilities, Infinitely.
We are "It", experiencing our infinite possibilities in our finite moment.
Our job is to make it interesting!
What is the music selection? Thanks.
Watch the movie Meetings with remarkable men.
What's so bad about being asleep ? We all need sleep. & what does he mean by " asleep " & what's so bad about it ?
If you want to understand what he means you should read what Gurdjieff wrote about sleep and energy in "Views from the real world". Also you repeating why is it so bad why is it so bad like a mongoloid isn't helping you get further understanding unless you try and answer your questions.
For those not comfortable with the speed of this interview, use the settings button and speed it up to your liking. BTW interview starts at 5:40.
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Hi Sir. Is he awake? Intermediate awakening is possible for everyone. But the great awakening is for few. It is true that the flow of thoughts does not stop. And the man in his ordinary state of attention is incapable of noticing and getting rid of it. Deluded, he lives under the belief that he is master of himself - mere illusion. He doesn't realize he's just a machine reacting physically, emotionally and cognitively to the world around him. Absorbed by passions, urged and sustained in turn by the ceaseless activity of the thinking, he follows his life asleep - infinitely distant from God and at the same time one step away from Him.
Great
opportunity for growth and liberation. That the West can not
appreciate.
On a sphere everywhere is west of somewhere.
Magic/Being is focused Attention.
Some people 'wake up' into yet another state of sleep.
@fynes leigh actually it's the exact opposite, just observe what you can & study what you can't observe every living thing & it's accordance to 1 another & the earth and you will see its all for the benefit the inner transformsnce of us to. Your intuition will slap the Ego outta of your intellect and you'll inner knowing will know what another that knows his or her inner knowing knows
@fynes leigh asking
Someone in this comment section is way too... Yeah.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
-- after Mike Tyson ( ಠ ͜ʖಠ)
www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fl-xpm-2012-11-09-sfl-mike-tyson-explains-one-of-his-most-famous-quotes-20121109-story.html
What we are only just realising, is that certain types of sleep are actually mass suicide , Some are aware of the set, and how mans population growth means you fall out of the set , become unstable and this means extinction, but we can choose to sleep eternally in eternal existence and fulfill our purpose , or we can bottle it and let the machine kill itself
Por gentileza, coloquem legendas para Português...
Why imagine that the *source* of love - or intelligence for that matter, can be found in men(human beings)?
If it be right that that source lies *within* them, perhaps that is why they experience little but peace, prosperity, harmony, understanding and dancing through rainbows of laughing joy, and never die like dogs.
If the source lies without them, then what?
Are within and without different?
Bsr 🌨️🌳🦚🌨️
What was music playing in the opening?
fynes leigh thank you… She is patient just as we are hers, recuperating amidst this sickness we have fostered on her forever giving… There is truth in blue and green, with ears upon every solemn being, awaiting in our action, an utterance that rings to permeate the universal, as our apologetic divine
No one can do this alone, this work requires help from each other, from others… we needn’t experience that ominous shock known to us all as existent, at the terminus of this chosen trajectory, connecting with emptiness to be get a sense of the full? When in releasing the need for possession, do we realise what fullness we are a part of
fynes leigh perhaps, perhaps we are just living in the dream of a handful of people who wanted the world to go at certain way, for their dreams to be for field…… Before action and construction, there must always be a dream.
“ Doesn’t have meaning, IT IS meaning” language is so poor to describe that experience since you were simply there Observing. Beautiful talk and time
Thanks for sharing, shared.
I read quite a bit of Gudjeiffs and Ouspenskys works. Much of it had merit but then it became so far out I just had to let it go. Some of the tenets I still adhere to. First we have to agree on what is music lol?
What is awakening ? Snd the answer is not some absolute or relative mastery over the machine and its reactive emotions. Answer is do you know what second conscious shock is and what the consequences of the successful transition is, if not one has not understood the work. This is what gurdjieff says thru ouspemdky as the juncture where “real” work begins
Bealzububs tales to his grandson he is speaking to his sperm in the future. The new age version is Rick and Morty. Beautiful said about what is free and attention.
2:00 really good piano
nnniiiccce!
Pouring from the empty into the void.
The third force….when 2 or more come together in my name there also am I in their midst….the law of opposites
...i hope you (all) can realize the sheer, essential power you have just stumbled-upon...
Amen!👁💞🕯🙏
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♥️🙏♥️
These men are making Gurdjieffs ideas and works far more complex than it needs to be, Gurdjieff said clearly most people do not want to wake up and or basically just lazy and simply refuse to think. We see this everywhere we look today as well, so he simply pointed out simple truths of human behavior and commonality of their own forms of insanity accepted as the norm.
Human being not doing
Actually I found this discussion the opposite of complex. It was a deep, thoughtful and reflective discussion delving into the core principles of what Gurgjieff taught.
That's not true
'ATTENTION' = "AWARENESS" ???
Nope attention is using the right PFC , awareness is understanding how biology reacts to life
Microphone is too powerful --- too many wet mouth noises.
Why does he call him Jerry
We have to allow more space in our minds. In that space, we will observe more, learn and stay in peace. Simply staying in that state is a natural being for many Masters. They bear the fear inside and can control many other psychological troubles. Because they know identifying with the mind is a 'hell' state in this world.
Listen to him on 1.5x speed
Why is humanity aspleep, according to Gurdjieff. Do we have a defect? If we have lost our way why did we lose our way given other creatures on this planet appear to just get on with it without question? Or is there something sinister afoot which has caused this problem for humans?
A diamond question; keep it close to your heart as often as you can.You are rich with such a diamond question, try not to dream it away.
Is there a "we"?
An agreement,before descent
These questions are addressed in All and Everything. 💚
@@nicoledudas I will attempt a read 🙂
Didn't know Needleman was a Gurdjeffian.
9:00
I knew “ 😂mullah Nasradin”and listen this story when “very little I was -Abba “ -was telling us this specific story I remember and many this kind of life reaction giving stories - just to understand peacefully…..🌞
Gurdjieff Man number 7
How can you tell? Are you a man number 7? If not, how are you able to recognize it?
@@jake9674 Gurdjieff imortal, four way,
He is the Man, perfect soul, four body
Not something he ever claimed to be.
Piano piece is actually based on indian classical raga ...impeccably played 🏵
Interesting!
Yes he was translating the East to the Abrahamic that have forgotten the narrative
Interestingly the east has forgotten the narrative as well
So did we forget it or did the slavers kill everyone who knew ?
I understand the compassion that arises when seeing another struggling in life. But I don’t believe suffering is a necessary ingredient in this process of unfolding Being. That’s a misunderstanding in both the East and especially the West.
kool
idk it's like they really really don't care.. they don't give a shit.. unreal.. such important work, such a tailspin..