i think it's pretty clear she seen paths in her head and it's just artistically conveyed as dissociation. She chose the one that allowed her to save the girl. I also think the neckless was intentional. Maybe they can track one of them trying to sell it off.
Larys burned down White Worm's house at the end of Season 1 and spent this episode killing all of her informants. She was on the ship because she lost everything in King's Landing and knew she wasn't safe, so she was trying to escape.
Seems like Mysaria isn't that smart in the show compared to the book. She's supposed to have built herself up from nothing with wits and guile, but how could she have trusted Otto, and not had a contingent plan for him likely turning against her?
That or she's working together with Larys and they agreed that she would spy on the blacks while he spied on the greens. Source: Larys "removed" all unloyal servants and yet Cheese still worked there, and no alarm was sounded when eyebrows lady saw them.
@@jord1215 because the interaction felt better, in the books. Aemond was never the target, and the quote with "your momma wants you dead" then killing the other boy was just better.
@@Kaddahn For the book, yeah. But with how they have adapted it for the show I think this way works great. Rhaenyra said, in front of a crowded room, that she wanted Aemond. So Daemon making it seem like the target was him, but knowing full well Blood and Cheese weren't capable of taking him out but most likely would cause some kind of chaos and madness works perfect to me.
Helaena comes across as someone who knows exactly what's going to happen while simultaneously having no idea of how to use that knowledge to affect the perceived outcome.
I think like most people with visions in fantasy stories, she can't interpret her visions correctly. She probably saw a dream of a rat eating away a flesh, and was like "better hire some ratcatchers". Not realizing that the ratcatchers were the threat. If you recall, in GoT Melisandre thought that Stannis was a promised prince whereas her visions did not explicitly say that, she just assumed it had to be.
@@rexibhazoboa7097this power has a different source. Raven is much more precise. He doesn’t deal in visions. He sees it all clear like Dune’s kwisatz ha’derach
@@senior_comrade8401 pretty sure they weren't talking about the three eyed raven, they were talking about raven from the "that's so raven" tv show on disney back in the day.
And she was fleeing King’s Landing because Larys had her house burned down in the 9th episode last season. She was probably trying to cross the Narrow Sea.
Even his intention was right though despite the logistics and politics being wrong. Would rather a King actually doing shit for the smallfolk or at least attempting to than not doing anything at all. Also, you're completely correct about the smiths. If they can't afford to make your weapons then you're fucked and Aegon knew it and I also think Otto realized he was right too
Exactly he’s not as bad at being king as they suggested but unlike his half sister he wasn’t groomed for it so he’s basically learning and understands at least the basic principal of the common people are unhappy it can lead to even more chaos for instance Joffrey in season 2 of GoT didn’t value the people at all and they let him know the feeling was mutual
@@Tooba-K123to be brutally honest people hate him because they love team black he’s nowhere near as evil as Yk who by the end of the books. He’s also quite funny in the show.
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 yes exactly they cannot see pass the hate and i head they made Aegon rapist in show because they wanted balance Daemon deed and kinks he rapes young virgins and is pedo so they needed something equally bad for Aegon i wonder what bad think Rhaenyra will do she is the only one who did nothing yet and if they will treat her as saith she is not it will be hypocrisy.
Wdym other than Luke? Helaena and her kids are all more innocent than Luke. Luke already bloodied his hands when he mutilated Aemond who he also bullied. If he apologized for that when he was older in the dinner scene, it would've been forgiven but he instead added salt to the wound. Helaena never hurt anyone in anyway and her kids are toddlers.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Exactly! People keep acting like the Blacks are so innocent. Rhaenyra was extremely manipulative, using Criston, intentionally having three bastards, and showing no care at all. Everyone has bastards, but they don't typically have them claim someone else's lands and titles. Luke took Aemond's eye, and don't even get me started on Daemon. He's a psychopath. However, the way they're writing the show makes it seem like the Blacks are so pure and the Greens are the antagonists. Otto, for example, gets such a bad rap. What did he do that's so different from Corlys?
@@ahmorgandaemon is a psychopath as is aemond and so is aegon nobody is innocent in the house of the dragon except for heleana.u only mentioning dameon is psychopath show that u are not seeing the other side of the greens.aegon raping a poor girl.and aemond going after a small boy trying to scare him of with a war machine is it okay??. u saying like they writing the show to portray blacks as the hero's couldn't have showed the blood and cheese scene.in the books aegon didn't care for his children in the first episode itself they tried to show that he loves his children.alicent so evil in the books but showing that she is mourning luke to just portray that she is good what about it
@@harsh_1910 I have never heard anyone say they Are villainizing Daemon. They are not making him evil enough. I have heard people call him badass, cool... But never have I heard anybody complain they are making him to evil. He should be more evil than he is portrayed. That man is 10 times worse than Aemond and Aegon combined.
The White Worm is running after her house was burned down. She can’t stay in Kings Landing so my guess is she was running to Esos and got caught by the blockade
Out of all the characters that deserved something bad to happen to them, Blood and Cheese go after sweet Helaena and her defenseless sleeping children, which is only going to make everything worse. Helaena comes off as troubled to me, like her visions haunt her every waking moment, but she doesnt fully understand them until it's too late and no one listens to her when she says stuff like "Beware the beast beneath the boards" or "I'm afraid of the rats". However, she's been very normal in her other her quips with Aegon. That line in Season 1 Episode 8 when she's giving a toast was savage: "I would like to toast Baela and Rhaena. They'll be married soon. It isn't so bad. Mostly, he just ignores you... except sometimes when he's drunk."
Again. Wasn't he also supposed to be on watch when Aemond lost his eye? Where was he? Now I wonder how far back this stuff with him and Alicent goes, Helaena didn't even seem surprised.
@@margaretconnor5623 I agree with you, but if a king or queen tells you to do something, you better do it or lose your head, this is not a love story between Alicent and Sir Criston, it is just raw sex that Alicent wants, Criston cannot say no,
@@jonsand3102 Yeah, meaning Alicent is a massive hypocrite, even more so than I thought before. Being all pissy with Rhaenyra for sleeping with Criston, meanwhile she's doing the same thing.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 team Green and team black they are evil, there is no good team, if you think that any team is good, you clearly did not understand the author's proposal.
A note on the beach scene with Rhaenyra and Syrax - Luc's dragon was a hatchling of Syrax, so when she howled it really hit home, as it was 2 mothers grieving together. This show does such a good job at getting little details like that right.
@@perseusveil9376 Hmmm, looking into it I guess it's just been a long time fan theory - Because it's good and adds drama, I'm going to choose to believe it's true
@@obijuan-kenobi5117 Its a nice headcanon, but its necessary to clarify its just that, a theory. The HOTD tiktokers are being bad enough muddling the lore for their team wars (mostly team black tbh).
@@obijuan-kenobi5117 Not really. People are using this dumb theory to say other dumb things like dragons feeling sad about other dragons when we don't know about their feelins but we DO know they don't give a fuck about killing other dragons they knew and were allied with before, and even others that most likely were their offspring. So yeah, one dumb thing can grow into an entire circus and the discourse suffers for it and suddenly the dragons are an alternative family with their dynamics and relationships and yeah, no lol
He rapes servants and supports the mutilation of poor children for entertainment. Even leaving his own bastards in those fighting pits. Show Aegon wants to be liked, the way many narcissists do. That doesn't mean he cares about anyone.
Uhm, he literally rapes the small folk women (the maids) and remember the children fighting pits 😭 I won’t deny his character is interesting but I don’t think he cares about them, I think he cares about being liked by the smallfolk/being seen as a good king
@@KelliFranklinI think the idea was pre crowning aegon was just an alcoholic brute that didn’t expect to have any responsibility other than fucking around and doing as he pleased. After being crowned its obvious he did want to be a good king (still a prick but was trying), but after the death of his son he just goes full wrath of the dragon which clouds his judgement.
This episode was really solid, but I really hate the change to have Alicent and Cole have sex specifically during Blood and Cheese. In the book Alicent was with Helaena and the reason the assassins even managed to get to them was because Helaena was visiting her mother with the children which made them vulnerable.
I don't think the change of alicent not having been there makes any functional difference atleast narratively as B&C acts as one of the many things that drive her nuts, and she still has that in the show as when her kid was going through this she was having sex, it just gives her more to do and is more in line is the this character they're going for in the show so I'm personally quite happy with the change
Blood & Cheese was a lot more darker in the book then what they showed, but the tension leading up to that moment was still great. Also we got a name drop in the epsiode for the Dalton Greyjoy aka Red Kraken😈, but they'll probably save his appearance season 3. I just hope we see the lads & bloody ben this season !! 💯🙏
They couldn't have portrayed it like it was in the book because Maelor didn't exist on the show prior to this episode so it was likely that, going into this episode, we would not get the book version. It was still rather gruesome and intense.
@@Regenmacher175 True due to his character missing they were unable to do that scene justice, however I still see that as a mistake by the showrunners. Because Maelor is not just a important character for the Blood & Cheese incident, but he is also important to another subplot that happens later on to showcase the horrors of this war. I really don't understand why would Ryan make such drastic changes like this, it's giving me D&D flashbacks. I just hope characters like the Lads, Bloody Ben & Black Aly get the proper respect from the showrunners.
@@timothypolanco8622 You won't get everything from the book and you need to accept the fact that with adaptations the people adapting it get to put their spin on the story. They're telling their version of the story, not you. And btw, D&D made GOT the most popular show of the last decade that kept people watching eagerly every week. I am happy if they stick to the main plot points. The rest is just icing on the cake.
Aegon has NO idea how to be the king, he wasn't trained for it. He was the Spare, not the Heir, so no one ever taught him the art of governing, which is something that it seems like the Hightowers didn't take into account during those YEARS of plotting to overthrown Rhaenyra...or if they did take it into account, they stopped at thinking Aegon would just be the uninformed figurehead and they could rule through him. But without the years and years of training, all the drilling about duty and honor and what a ruler actually DOES for their kingdom, Aegon never developed the temperament or the steadiness of character to sit on the Iron Throne. And if Otto and his daughter don't get that through their heads VERY soon, it's going to be bad for everybody.
Which is why he wanted his own son there. Aegon's actor in an interview said Aegon is deeply affected by his father's neglect and wanted his own son to be raised better and learn how to be King. And, for all his major flaws, he's trying to fill the role of King
He was actually smart in investing in the smiths considering whats about to happen. Obviously Otto doesn't like it cause its spending money on promises, but its sensible considering the guild we're talking about. This version of Aegon has the advantage of seeing things outside the frame of an heir or a noble who actually wanted to rule. Not saying he's a genius mind you, or that he's great at it, but he's more rat from Flea Bottom than prince from the Red Keep, and that explains his sensibility to the smallfolk, which can have good effects and bad effects. In any case its canon, as he and Helaena were described a popular/liked by the smallfolk in the books.
@09hicktown Still far smarter than Team Black with their gaslighting queen (Rhaenyra gaslighting Alicent throughout S1), and a mindless, bloodthirsty impulsive psychopath in Daemon, who's not half as smart as Team Black fanboys and fangirls think he is.
Just think of this: they took the child's head. Imagine walking into your son's room and seeing his headless body in his bed...shit just got serious for Aegon.
22:25 theres a blockade between King's landing and Dragonstone. Her house was burned down last season. She escaped by stowing aboard a ship. The blockade intercepted the ship. And because they recognise her as being previously acquainted to Daemon, they braught her to him.
Mysaria wasn't trying to go to Dragonstone. She was trying to flee KL, but the blockade meant her ship was stopped and searched, which allowed them to capture her. She is originally from Lys, she was probably trying to go back there.
This was the Blood&Cheese moment, Nerdy. Except in the book, it's more protracted and gruesome and I don't think they can show it on TV. Think ISIS beheadings but for a child. The rat catcher is named Cheese and the gold cloak loyal Daemon is named Blood.
I think the book was more psychologically torturous for Halaena, but I wouldn't say it was more gruesome. Jahaerys got a quick death in the book. In the show, they slit his throat and immediately began cutting off his head. Slowly. A slit throat isn't an immediate death, that boy was still alive when they began sawing at his neck. That's WAY more gruesome than a quick beheading he didn't see coming cause his mom chose his brother and they just whacked his head off instead. Everyone complaining about it being so much worse in the book, nah. Being slowly beheaded and unable to scream as you bleed to death and feel your neck being sawed into is so much worse than a quick and painless beheading you didn't see coming cause you thought it was your brother that was gonna die.
Fire and Blood is written just like a history tome. No dialogue or drama, just facts. It’s not what most people are expecting from a Martin book. That might also account for the lower sales
Why it didnt sell is unknown to me but its written like the main books where you should take things with a grain of salt especially when theres multiple viewpoints
@yetibeardson1168 It is much like history books on medieval and ancient history. The contemporary source material (aside from record logs, if available) are usually from people who have an axe to grind in whatever political conflict was going on, so the historian has to decide what actually happened and what was embellished for the source's agenda.
Syrax = Rhaenyra Caraxes = Daemon Meleys = Rhaenys Sunfyre = Aegon Vhagar = Aemond Dreamfyre = Heleana Moondancer = Baela Vermax = Jacaeys Arrax = Lucerys Seasmoke = Laenor/? Vermithor = Jaehaerys/? Silverwing = Alysanne/? Those are the dragons we've met so far or are coming this season. We also know that at least Alicent's last son, Daeron, will come this season or next season with his dragon Tessarion
@@harsh_1910 Their dragons will be there though. I just forgot the names of the guys that ride them. At the moment, everyone tends to connect the two dragons to Jaehaerys and Alysanne.
@@harsh_1910 The question mark is because I don't remember the names. Also, with the changes to the show, I left them that way since they could possibly change it. If they don't, I'm happy to fix it.
Its even worse in the book, well except theres no sound, the sound probably made this even worse, but in the book she has another son, so two sons and a daughter, and shes made to choose which son they kill, and after choosing they kill the opposite son, so shes left with this son who watched her choose him to die...
I agree that and I think in the/a book context that works better. But I don't see them focusing on those children or developing their characters much given the shows pace. So I think the way they went serves the show very well. But yeah, it friggin' wild in the book.
@@yetibeardson1168depending on how many seasons the writers have the “war” last versus any post war story; there will probably be a time jump within a few seasons to focus on the children getting older and having to fight during the war.
@@eventingirl001 Not if they stick to the book timeline which they have more or less been doing. The actual civil war only lasts about two years. But yeah they could just expand that timeline for sure.
Criston Cole raised Aemond cause Aemond never had real father. So yes. And i dont get the hate against Aegon from you, he literally trying be good king.
Aegon is trying to be *liked* . There is a difference. He spent his whole life being a deadbeat whom no one wanted. He desires attention, he wants to be loved, but he has no idea how to be a king. And he is doing a shitty job of it on his own.
@@hedinsee6830 I mean everyone wants to be liked and loved, I feel bad for Aegon, he is trying to be a good king regardless of his intentions... Better than behaving like Joffrey. Plus he never asked to be King and he doesn't want to. Aegon is a really interesting character tbh
@@hedinsee6830 Everyone hide! A king is trying to have a good reputation, disgraceful. Out of all the people who sit that thrown, one having the motivation of being liked is far from the worse. Hell, probably one of the best. He'll find out what the small folk want and try his best to deliver. And with training, he could succeed. It is not a horrible trait like a few people are making it out to be.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 You are missing the point. A child (yes, he is behaving like a child since he was never taught differently) trying to please the first person he sees does not make a good king. The results of such an experiment will be disastrous. He is not doing what a king would do to ensure a good and well-regarded rule. He is doing impulsive and, most importantly, selfish things both in the public eye and out of it. He is doing "what smallfolk want" in an audience for the appearance. Not for their benefit, but for his. All the other decisions affecting the rest of the population beyond the couple dozen in the throne room at that point are made out f their view. And unsurprisingly he suddenly does not give a damn about the details. Listen to the rest of his "decisions" throughout the episode. And people conveniently seem to forget his history in this episode. Yes, he got the short end of the stick in his education, but that in no way, shape or form excuse what he made of himself. Let's review. He is an epitome of a deadbeat husband, a cruel and capricious sociopath, a rapist, a sadist who enjoys his own bastard children fight to the death... The best that could be expected of his rule would actually be his short attention span with him tiring of the business of ruling quickly and his council taking the reins completely. Just as Alicent described.
11:50 Alicent: Where is duty?? Where is sacrifice?? Crispy: Its trampled between your pretty legs😂😂 *after the act Alicent: Exhausting, wasnt it?? Crispy: Hiding beneath the cloak of your own righteous gown? Yes it was😂😂
Alicent the widow sleeping with a kings guard who has already broken his oath with rhaeneyra is not equivalent to having 3 bastards as the heir to the throne 😂😂😂
@@yashorajsingh4276 your widow understood each signal of Kinslayer Larys without him having to say anything and discreetly performed each step like a telepathic witch to entertain a murderous coont sexually just after her husband, the King has passed away. That CLEARLY explains that the act began to happen way before Viserys, her husband, the King was even dead taking into account how she knew what act to perform to each of Larys' signals. HYPOCRITE
@@yashorajsingh4276that widow understood each signal of Kinslayer Larys without him having to say anything and discreetly performed each step like a telepathic to entertain a murderous coont s*xually just after her husband, the King has passed away. That CLEARLY explains that the act began to happen way before Viserys, her husband, the King was even dead taking into account how she knew what act to perform to each of Larys' signals. HYPOCRITE
@@yashorajsingh4276 that widow understood each signal of heinous murderer Larys without him having to say anything and discreetly performed each step like a telepathic to entertain a murderous coont sesually just after her husband, the King has passed away. That CLEARLY explains that the act began to happen way before Viserys, her husband, the King was even dead taking into account how she knew what act to perform to each of Larys' signals. HYPOCRITEs
I totaly agree that Phia played Helaena's reaction EXACTLY the way one would expect Helaena to react given the way the character was established in season 1. Great reaction - it was almost like what my reaction would have been had I been looking in a mirror the first time I watched it!
💚Team Green supporter here💚 i swear..the moment i heard those muffled screams and the cutting noises, i couldn't breathe😭😭 that poor baby 😭😭😭 they will haunt me for a long time i know that. Sure i wished they would've done it the same way that it was in the books but only because of Helaena! Now it looked like she didn't loved her son, because she give up on him so easy..in the book, she pleads to be killed and not her son and there is so much more..but! Helaena was in shock, and Phia did such a great job 😭😭 really
@@drrohanjacob The only traitor is Rhaenyra pretending there are no consequences to her actions. Rhaenyra is a spoiled brat in every sense of the word who expects everyone to see things her way.
I'm just a bit disappointed we lost the "Choose who dies" moment. It makes the whole scene so much more traumatic and shocking, it's the thing that tips it over the edge. Also, still no Daeron!
@@michaelriggs325 You don't need to add any blood or gore to the scene. Just the fact Helaena has to choose between her children, and the one she chose lives.
I was actually surprise at how kindly Aegon treated the petitioners. He doesn't seem as vindictive as last season. He was far less callous to their requests than the Hand. I don't think he was terrible at that at all. He was trying to be kind to them. And taking a tithe right before winter is cruel, he was trying to alleviate that. The Hand could care less. And Aegon clearly loved his son... which means his reaction to his death is going to flip all that I suspect. I'm also surprised that the dragon saddles don't have a pennant for identification unique to each rider. It would make sense for ease of identification, and likely wouldn't interfere at all if placed correctly. Trailing behind the saddle or even a smaller one on a short pole (that could be used as a spear) on the front, would have no significant drag, nor get in the way of wings or limbs. Also funny the same people bashing the Rings of Power wigs sure are silent about this shows wigs even though there is no difference in how they stand out.
Really not thinking about the livestock as taxes for the war was his one goof. Announcing that he'll burn the enemy ships would be the logical move to break a blockade. It kills room for negotiating but not totally. Paying the blacksmiths in advance to guarantee production makes sense also. Need the weapons and best to keep them making them happy.
@@SteezLouise More so the war is kicked into overdrive. Can't really wear off and become bored if your son has been murdered and you now have to be fully engaged in a war to keep yourself and the rest of your family alive
Hey Nerdy....I thought it was a good joke. 🙂 Also, Lord Larys burnt down the White Worms "headquarters" at the end of season one. She was on the run. At least that's how it seems to me.
I get it's cool to hate on Aegon but why are yall acting like he did something wrong this episode ? He literally is helping the smallfolk something joffery would never do & yall keep comparing the Greens to joffrey cause yall love for team black😂& hate green so are we forgetting the guy who killed his wife with a rock ? Same guy helped kill a innocent guy to rhaenyra fake husband ? How about sending ppl to kill kids ? Idk how yall think only team green is bad when black is just as bad if not worse
When aegon walked into Helaenas room, the maids looked terrified, they are smallfolk as well. So even though Aegon is an interesting character, he’s still a rapist. Also they didn’t kill laenor, thought that was established.
They clearly don't understand Aegon's character at all. He is a good king. He isn't an idiot. He is just careless and nonchalant, not dumb. He is also a loving father. In the books i don't think he raped anybody. He was a creep though but not a rapist.
"They must have pictures they pass around to identify all the dragons." - This is literally still how pilots and the soldiers manning anti-aircraft batteries learned how to identify both friendly and enemy planes right up through the 20th century before radars became good enough to do the identifying.
In the book, the torture of B&C was so brutal that it totally broke Helaena and she didn't eat, sleep,talk and didn't even take care her remaining children anymore. 😢
I heard what episode title was was going to be quite awhile ago, A Son for a son. The episode in Got wasn't called The Red Wedding, it was called The Rains of Castamere. The Red Wedding was a nickname for the episode.😊
I give you…. BLOOD AND CHEESE. The heir to the iron throne is dead. 😵 🤌🏼. The intro at WINTERFEL and castle black MAGNIFICENT. Cregan stark wearing ICE strapped to his back 🤌🏼🤌🏼🫶🏻‼️‼️😌🐉🐉🐉🐉 can’t wait for the next episode
Cranky Criston is the kind of the character who...I'm so sick of his bs, I just wanna be like, "Can you just go away, sir? Like if you could die in a fire, that'd be great, I just don't want you HERE ruining my good time."
The ending scene is significantly worse in the books. The boy was the target from the get go. They tied her and alicent up and made her choose which of her 2 sons was gonna die when she refused they threatened to r... her daughter she chooses the younger son hoping he didn't know what was happening then blood leaned in and whispered to him "see that boy your mom wants you dead" and then kills his brother.
Nerdy please tell you you didn't think that giant inflatable on the empire state building was real. It's so clearly cgi. Same as all the banners and other stuff. Come on people
tbh I think the last scene would’ve been better if it was like the book (or what I’ve read happened in the book), having to chose between Jaehaerys and Jaehaera doesn’t really make sense to me
Can you guess why Aegon cannot become king? he doesn't know how to. King Viserys brought Rhaenyra to the council since she's small to learn. He even accepted her ideas to solve problems before. He never brought Aegon to his council because he never intended to make him king. Rhaenyra will know exactly what to say to all those pheasants, Aegon does not.
The people calling this “red wedding-like” WILL change their mind later. I know exactly which scene will be that deceiving but people and spoilers don’t mix.
You guys think maybe Alyn the shipwright has his head and face completely shaven? Directly after Larys says he has chosen her new staff, she wants to bathe alone? Layers. Aegon is an idiot when it comes to practical matters, but he's at least not a cruel little prick by nature. I think that scene is meant to show us that he's not Joffrey. Dragon Airport. lol Harsh vs cruel is an important distinction. Claroos calling out Aegon's need for love. Exactly my read on the character.
What tickles me about everyone hyping up Vhagar and Aemond is that they don’t know it was an accident. B&C still managed to kill a member on the Royal family despite the dragons presence. Vhagar is only a deterrent for direct attacks, not surgical ones. Basically Targaryen’s put way too much on the dragons, they don’t really think outside the box most times
I watched the episode, but now that I watch the reactions, I never notice that the Royal Guards are to busy getting drunk with Aegon, so drunk and stupid that not notice Blood and Cheese walk in front of them, and Cole is so busy having sex with Alicent that he never bother to order the guards partially guard the Queen, no even in the book they are this incompetent, well, maybe Aegon, but at least the Kings Guards did their jobs.
44:39 What's interesting, is if you watch the episode closely, you can actually see Cheese walking around in the background of multiple scenes throughout the episode to show that it's not unusual to see him walking around the castle. It also shows how none of the characters, not even us, pay attention to the smallfolk.
Aegon really isn’t that bad of a king. He just needed normal counselors. In reality he tried to do the good thing, didn’t realize he couldn’t be blunt about it 😅
Was actually so heartbroken for Halaena and also Aegon in a sense. Same pain that Rhaenyra felt, but Halaena actually watched her son die and get beheaded as well 💔
the murder scene is worse in the books. The kids are a bit older. And there are two sons. The murderers asks haleana which one is the heir... and they kill the other one... So the surviving son knows his mother chose him to die.
Did anyone else notice Helaena stopped and gasped and was completely rerouted when she got to the middle of the bottom floor? How is nobody talking about this???? She clearly saw something??? And they clearly pan the camera to show you it wasn't a person. Ghost of the former king??? Someone else dead? Just Sir Krispy Kremes absense maybe??? I cant find anyone talking about this moment???
Pretty sure it was still just a reaction of shock. She was clearly looking for someone, anyone and couldn’t find anyone. It just looked like she truly grasped that she was on her own and what had happened in that moment, and so was about to be overcome by panic, but then she went back into autopilot and kept searching.
@@a.j.1819 I would agree with you if it was filmed the way it was filmed, they were very intentional on how they swung the camera around to see here perspective. What would be the point of that???
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I would guess he 'guards' the queens every night. But as commander of the KL he should be the one stationing the other knights at their posts. There's no reason to not have a guard at the Queen's chamber doors, so somebody f'ed up big time.
4:45 HOD Opening: The tapestry of Targaryen history. Ancient valyrians practicing magic Daenys dream of the fall The fall of Valyria Aegon and his sisters flying over Westeros Harren the black Conquest of Harrenhal and the Field of Fire The North, The Riverlands and The Eyrie bending the knee without a fight House Targaryen established as the Rulers of Westeros The construction of the Red Keep The death of Maegor the Cruel King Jahaerys the Conciliator and Queen Alysanne Old King Jahaerys at the Great Council of Harrenhal (Viserys I nomination to the Thorne) The court of Viserys I split between Alicent and Rhaenyra Aegon II vs Rhaenyra I Lucerys death.
@@maryjaneholland6732 Like that actually matters, Otto wanted Hightower blood on the throne and didnt even last a generation yet Im supposed to belive the greens "won"
I LOVE YOU CLARUS! You're just not into it and I love how you don't hide that! Sometimes we just want to smack the f**k out of our man.. and that's okay. We can't help but slip into that dark goddess energy sometimes. Just go with it.. because if you don't, and you ignore it.. it will come back to bite you in the ass, believe me. Most people will be clueless about everything I just typed. And that's okay too. But I have a feeling you know exactly what I'm talking about.. it's in your blood.. it's in your soul. ❤ On a lighter note: I love both of you guys, keep keepin' on!
You guys saw that after saying that she is afraid of the rats she looked directly at the cradle of little Jaehaerys, she had a prophetic dream about the death of her own son. And before Aegon entered the room, Helaena said, "They just want the boy".
Anyone who has had a *very* traumatic moment in their life knows what disassociating means. Helaena was doing that.
Agreed. It's so strange how some people (mostly on twitter) don't understand this 😭
Agreed. Helaena anyways is neurodivergent, people expecting her to be all haunghty about this whole sequence are expecting too much.
But wouldn't be your first instinct to somehow save your child
@@RhaenyraT2001 What was she to do when there are two brutes with massive knives at your throat and they threaten to kill you and both the children?
i think it's pretty clear she seen paths in her head and it's just artistically conveyed as dissociation. She chose the one that allowed her to save the girl. I also think the neckless was intentional. Maybe they can track one of them trying to sell it off.
Larys burned down White Worm's house at the end of Season 1 and spent this episode killing all of her informants. She was on the ship because she lost everything in King's Landing and knew she wasn't safe, so she was trying to escape.
Dang I rewatched it and still forgot
Seems like Mysaria isn't that smart in the show compared to the book. She's supposed to have built herself up from nothing with wits and guile, but how could she have trusted Otto, and not had a contingent plan for him likely turning against her?
@@pajamaparty01it wasn't otto that betrayed her, larys did this on alicent's order
@@pajamaparty01 Otto did not turn on her, Alicent did.
That or she's working together with Larys and they agreed that she would spy on the blacks while he spied on the greens. Source: Larys "removed" all unloyal servants and yet Cheese still worked there, and no alarm was sounded when eyebrows lady saw them.
Hearing a toddlers head being crudely sawed off may have been more horrific than seeing it.
And people are complaining they didn’t show what they did in the books. wild
@@jord1215 because the interaction felt better, in the books. Aemond was never the target, and the quote with "your momma wants you dead" then killing the other boy was just better.
@@Kaddahn For the book, yeah. But with how they have adapted it for the show I think this way works great. Rhaenyra said, in front of a crowded room, that she wanted Aemond. So Daemon making it seem like the target was him, but knowing full well Blood and Cheese weren't capable of taking him out but most likely would cause some kind of chaos and madness works perfect to me.
@@Kaddahn Still. It had no reason to show it.
@@jord1215they didn’t need to show anything, but they still seriously pulled their punch
The way Rhaenyra only had 1 line this episode but Emma D'arcy filled the whole episode with their acting is crazy. I didn't even notice.
She gave a performance worthy of Paddy. It's also a nod to Matt Smith in episode 3 when he didn't say a word in the last part of the episode.
She had the least to say but gave the most impactful performance ❤
Ikr. She owned it straight to an Emmy
I will give her credit for her acting for sure on this.
Emma D'Arcy (Rhaenyra) is non binary and uses they/them pronouns.
Helaena comes across as someone who knows exactly what's going to happen while simultaneously having no idea of how to use that knowledge to affect the perceived outcome.
I think like most people with visions in fantasy stories, she can't interpret her visions correctly. She probably saw a dream of a rat eating away a flesh, and was like "better hire some ratcatchers". Not realizing that the ratcatchers were the threat. If you recall, in GoT Melisandre thought that Stannis was a promised prince whereas her visions did not explicitly say that, she just assumed it had to be.
Thats so Raven
@@rexibhazoboa7097this power has a different source. Raven is much more precise. He doesn’t deal in visions. He sees it all clear like Dune’s kwisatz ha’derach
@@senior_comrade8401 pretty sure they weren't talking about the three eyed raven, they were talking about raven from the "that's so raven" tv show on disney back in the day.
@@eldertoguro1 back in the day where you're from but not where i am from.
thanks for the clarification though
The Velaryon's have a blockade around King's Landing. Her boat was boarded and she was taken prisoner.
And she was fleeing King’s Landing because Larys had her house burned down in the 9th episode last season. She was probably trying to cross the Narrow Sea.
Tom(Aegon) improvised all of his one liners he said in interview
Which is hilarious as he’s the only person in the show who had any sort of humour.
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 i agree he is like comedic relief everyone is so serious but it will change because Aegon will change
So the best character was all improvisation? Grim.
Aegon was wrong with sheep but he was right with weapons he needs small folks and he knows it
Even his intention was right though despite the logistics and politics being wrong. Would rather a King actually doing shit for the smallfolk or at least attempting to than not doing anything at all. Also, you're completely correct about the smiths. If they can't afford to make your weapons then you're fucked and Aegon knew it and I also think Otto realized he was right too
Exactly he’s not as bad at being king as they suggested but unlike his half sister he wasn’t groomed for it so he’s basically learning and understands at least the basic principal of the common people are unhappy it can lead to even more chaos for instance Joffrey in season 2 of GoT didn’t value the people at all and they let him know the feeling was mutual
Fr, Aegon honestly handled the Smiths situation really well after learning from Sheep situation. Otto was too impatient in here.
@@Tooba-K123to be brutally honest people hate him because they love team black he’s nowhere near as evil as Yk who by the end of the books. He’s also quite funny in the show.
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 yes exactly they cannot see pass the hate and i head they made Aegon rapist in show because they wanted balance Daemon deed and kinks he rapes young virgins and is pedo so they needed something equally bad for Aegon i wonder what bad think Rhaenyra will do she is the only one who did nothing yet and if they will treat her as saith she is not it will be hypocrisy.
Alicent desperately scrubbing that one spot on her body, in the tub...Had some serious Lady McBeth vibes.....
Yeah that and it’s a call back to season 1 when she had the habitat of bitting/picking her nails till they bled
I'm still on Rhaenyra's side but my god does my heart hurt for Helaena and her children other than Luke they were the most innocent in the war.
Wdym other than Luke? Helaena and her kids are all more innocent than Luke. Luke already bloodied his hands when he mutilated Aemond who he also bullied. If he apologized for that when he was older in the dinner scene, it would've been forgiven but he instead added salt to the wound. Helaena never hurt anyone in anyway and her kids are toddlers.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Exactly! People keep acting like the Blacks are so innocent. Rhaenyra was extremely manipulative, using Criston, intentionally having three bastards, and showing no care at all. Everyone has bastards, but they don't typically have them claim someone else's lands and titles. Luke took Aemond's eye, and don't even get me started on Daemon. He's a psychopath. However, the way they're writing the show makes it seem like the Blacks are so pure and the Greens are the antagonists. Otto, for example, gets such a bad rap. What did he do that's so different from Corlys?
@@ahmorgandaemon is a psychopath as is aemond and so is aegon nobody is innocent in the house of the dragon except for heleana.u only mentioning dameon is psychopath show that u are not seeing the other side of the greens.aegon raping a poor girl.and aemond going after a small boy trying to scare him of with a war machine is it okay??. u saying like they writing the show to portray blacks as the hero's couldn't have showed the blood and cheese scene.in the books aegon didn't care for his children in the first episode itself they tried to show that he loves his children.alicent so evil in the books but showing that she is mourning luke to just portray that she is good what about it
@@ahmorganhow are they writing the show as blacks are pure while also having people complain they're villainizing daemon
@@harsh_1910 I have never heard anyone say they Are villainizing Daemon. They are not making him evil enough. I have heard people call him badass, cool... But never have I heard anybody complain they are making him to evil. He should be more evil than he is portrayed. That man is 10 times worse than Aemond and Aegon combined.
Emma D'arcy is coming for their Emmy.
Emmy D'arcy
Her
@@jameswallace2951They. Non binary.
@@tiagofalcao1840 non binary things is non binary to him so stfu
@@jameswallace2951 They.
The White Worm is running after her house was burned down. She can’t stay in Kings Landing so my guess is she was running to Esos and got caught by the blockade
Out of all the characters that deserved something bad to happen to them, Blood and Cheese go after sweet Helaena and her defenseless sleeping children, which is only going to make everything worse.
Helaena comes off as troubled to me, like her visions haunt her every waking moment, but she doesnt fully understand them until it's too late and no one listens to her when she says stuff like "Beware the beast beneath the boards" or "I'm afraid of the rats". However, she's been very normal in her other her quips with Aegon.
That line in Season 1 Episode 8 when she's giving a toast was savage: "I would like to toast Baela and Rhaena. They'll be married soon. It isn't so bad. Mostly, he just ignores you... except sometimes when he's drunk."
"The queen is an enduring mystery, is she not?"
"It's Bran!" wait.. It LITERALLY could be though. fuuuuuuu
He's the Three-Eyed Raven who sees and knows potentially everything that has ever happened.
Sir Criston left his post doing his nightly duty
Yeah, he was too busy stabbing the Queen Mother.
Again. Wasn't he also supposed to be on watch when Aemond lost his eye? Where was he? Now I wonder how far back this stuff with him and Alicent goes, Helaena didn't even seem surprised.
@@margaretconnor5623 I agree with you, but if a king or queen tells you to do something, you better do it or lose your head, this is not a love story between Alicent and Sir Criston, it is just raw sex that Alicent wants, Criston cannot say no,
@@jonsand3102 Yeah, meaning Alicent is a massive hypocrite, even more so than I thought before. Being all pissy with Rhaenyra for sleeping with Criston, meanwhile she's doing the same thing.
His post is inside alicent 😂
You guys make these Joffrey takes so easily. I doubt Aemond would be a cruel king who just sheds blood recklessly.
Team green is evil so they must have a Joffrey
@@rexibhazoboa7097 team Green and team black they are evil, there is no good team, if you think that any team is good, you clearly did not understand the author's proposal.
If you think that you either arent paying attrention or a stupid greencel.
Neither Aegon. Especially in a time of peace. The only character I can see being extremely violent in peace or war is Daemon
Aemond commits the most disastrous violence against civilians in the whole story.
A note on the beach scene with Rhaenyra and Syrax - Luc's dragon was a hatchling of Syrax, so when she howled it really hit home, as it was 2 mothers grieving together.
This show does such a good job at getting little details like that right.
Its not confirmed in canon that Syrax was Arrax mother.
@@perseusveil9376 Hmmm, looking into it I guess it's just been a long time fan theory - Because it's good and adds drama, I'm going to choose to believe it's true
@@obijuan-kenobi5117 Its a nice headcanon, but its necessary to clarify its just that, a theory. The HOTD tiktokers are being bad enough muddling the lore for their team wars (mostly team black tbh).
@@perseusveil9376 I understand that for things that are actually important, but this one is pretty inconsequential lol
@@obijuan-kenobi5117 Not really. People are using this dumb theory to say other dumb things like dragons feeling sad about other dragons when we don't know about their feelins but we DO know they don't give a fuck about killing other dragons they knew and were allied with before, and even others that most likely were their offspring. So yeah, one dumb thing can grow into an entire circus and the discourse suffers for it and suddenly the dragons are an alternative family with their dynamics and relationships and yeah, no lol
Aegon at least tries to care for the peasants and the smallfolk
He rapes servants and supports the mutilation of poor children for entertainment. Even leaving his own bastards in those fighting pits.
Show Aegon wants to be liked, the way many narcissists do. That doesn't mean he cares about anyone.
Uhm, he literally rapes the small folk women (the maids) and remember the children fighting pits 😭 I won’t deny his character is interesting but I don’t think he cares about them, I think he cares about being liked by the smallfolk/being seen as a good king
He SA'd the young maids in the Keep. I mean, I guess that's caring for the small folk in some twisted way.
@@KelliFranklinI think the idea was pre crowning aegon was just an alcoholic brute that didn’t expect to have any responsibility other than fucking around and doing as he pleased. After being crowned its obvious he did want to be a good king (still a prick but was trying), but after the death of his son he just goes full wrath of the dragon which clouds his judgement.
@@leeshropshire6346 Yeah, I get that. That's fair enough.
This episode was really solid, but I really hate the change to have Alicent and Cole have sex specifically during Blood and Cheese. In the book Alicent was with Helaena and the reason the assassins even managed to get to them was because Helaena was visiting her mother with the children which made them vulnerable.
I don't think the change of alicent not having been there makes any functional difference atleast narratively as B&C acts as one of the many things that drive her nuts, and she still has that in the show as when her kid was going through this she was having sex, it just gives her more to do and is more in line is the this character they're going for in the show so I'm personally quite happy with the change
Blood & Cheese was a lot more darker in the book then what they showed, but the tension leading up to that moment was still great. Also we got a name drop in the epsiode for the Dalton Greyjoy aka Red Kraken😈, but they'll probably save his appearance season 3. I just hope we see the lads & bloody ben this season !! 💯🙏
Hbo are not going to go that dark and i’m glad they didn’t
They couldn't have portrayed it like it was in the book because Maelor didn't exist on the show prior to this episode so it was likely that, going into this episode, we would not get the book version. It was still rather gruesome and intense.
@@Regenmacher175 True due to his character missing they were unable to do that scene justice, however I still see that as a mistake by the showrunners. Because Maelor is not just a important character for the Blood & Cheese incident, but he is also important to another subplot that happens later on to showcase the horrors of this war. I really don't understand why would Ryan make such drastic changes like this, it's giving me D&D flashbacks. I just hope characters like the Lads, Bloody Ben & Black Aly get the proper respect from the showrunners.
@@timothypolanco8622 You won't get everything from the book and you need to accept the fact that with adaptations the people adapting it get to put their spin on the story. They're telling their version of the story, not you. And btw, D&D made GOT the most popular show of the last decade that kept people watching eagerly every week. I am happy if they stick to the main plot points. The rest is just icing on the cake.
Aegon has NO idea how to be the king, he wasn't trained for it. He was the Spare, not the Heir, so no one ever taught him the art of governing, which is something that it seems like the Hightowers didn't take into account during those YEARS of plotting to overthrown Rhaenyra...or if they did take it into account, they stopped at thinking Aegon would just be the uninformed figurehead and they could rule through him. But without the years and years of training, all the drilling about duty and honor and what a ruler actually DOES for their kingdom, Aegon never developed the temperament or the steadiness of character to sit on the Iron Throne. And if Otto and his daughter don't get that through their heads VERY soon, it's going to be bad for everybody.
That the greens are this stupid is kind of funny to me.
Which is why he wanted his own son there. Aegon's actor in an interview said Aegon is deeply affected by his father's neglect and wanted his own son to be raised better and learn how to be King. And, for all his major flaws, he's trying to fill the role of King
He was actually smart in investing in the smiths considering whats about to happen. Obviously Otto doesn't like it cause its spending money on promises, but its sensible considering the guild we're talking about. This version of Aegon has the advantage of seeing things outside the frame of an heir or a noble who actually wanted to rule. Not saying he's a genius mind you, or that he's great at it, but he's more rat from Flea Bottom than prince from the Red Keep, and that explains his sensibility to the smallfolk, which can have good effects and bad effects. In any case its canon, as he and Helaena were described a popular/liked by the smallfolk in the books.
@09hicktown Still far smarter than Team Black with their gaslighting queen (Rhaenyra gaslighting Alicent throughout S1), and a mindless, bloodthirsty impulsive psychopath in Daemon, who's not half as smart as Team Black fanboys and fangirls think he is.
@tablesalt2628 Rhaenyra "the wants of the smallfolk are of no consequence"
Aegon is a fucking GREAT character, I can’t wait for everyone to see more of him!
He's hilarioud. "Dragoncock" cracked me up
Just think of this: they took the child's head. Imagine walking into your son's room and seeing his headless body in his bed...shit just got serious for Aegon.
toddler, and not even a clean cut. roughly sawed off.
Yep. He was aloof before but def not now
22:25 theres a blockade between King's landing and Dragonstone. Her house was burned down last season. She escaped by stowing aboard a ship. The blockade intercepted the ship. And because they recognise her as being previously acquainted to Daemon, they braught her to him.
Mysaria wasn't trying to go to Dragonstone. She was trying to flee KL, but the blockade meant her ship was stopped and searched, which allowed them to capture her. She is originally from Lys, she was probably trying to go back there.
This was the Blood&Cheese moment, Nerdy. Except in the book, it's more protracted and gruesome and I don't think they can show it on TV. Think ISIS beheadings but for a child. The rat catcher is named Cheese and the gold cloak loyal Daemon is named Blood.
I think the book was more psychologically torturous for Halaena, but I wouldn't say it was more gruesome. Jahaerys got a quick death in the book. In the show, they slit his throat and immediately began cutting off his head. Slowly. A slit throat isn't an immediate death, that boy was still alive when they began sawing at his neck. That's WAY more gruesome than a quick beheading he didn't see coming cause his mom chose his brother and they just whacked his head off instead. Everyone complaining about it being so much worse in the book, nah. Being slowly beheaded and unable to scream as you bleed to death and feel your neck being sawed into is so much worse than a quick and painless beheading you didn't see coming cause you thought it was your brother that was gonna die.
Fire and Blood is written just like a history tome. No dialogue or drama, just facts. It’s not what most people are expecting from a Martin book. That might also account for the lower sales
Not even facts really. It's a telling of events from history from unreliable narrators from their perspectives. Which makes it even better.
Why it didnt sell is unknown to me but its written like the main books where you should take things with a grain of salt especially when theres multiple viewpoints
@yetibeardson1168 It is much like history books on medieval and ancient history. The contemporary source material (aside from record logs, if available) are usually from people who have an axe to grind in whatever political conflict was going on, so the historian has to decide what actually happened and what was embellished for the source's agenda.
There is lots of dialogue in Fire & Blood
Syrax = Rhaenyra
Caraxes = Daemon
Meleys = Rhaenys
Sunfyre = Aegon
Vhagar = Aemond
Dreamfyre = Heleana
Moondancer = Baela
Vermax = Jacaeys
Arrax = Lucerys
Seasmoke = Laenor/?
Vermithor = Jaehaerys/?
Silverwing = Alysanne/?
Those are the dragons we've met so far or are coming this season. We also know that at least Alicent's last son, Daeron, will come this season or next season with his dragon Tessarion
Jahaerys and alyssnne are dead I don't think they should be there lol
@@harsh_1910 Their dragons will be there though. I just forgot the names of the guys that ride them. At the moment, everyone tends to connect the two dragons to Jaehaerys and Alysanne.
@@jedimasters1462 yes but their name and question mark might give people the wrong idea especially since they're alongside laenor who we know is alive
@@harsh_1910 The question mark is because I don't remember the names. Also, with the changes to the show, I left them that way since they could possibly change it. If they don't, I'm happy to fix it.
Its even worse in the book, well except theres no sound, the sound probably made this even worse, but in the book she has another son, so two sons and a daughter, and shes made to choose which son they kill, and after choosing they kill the opposite son, so shes left with this son who watched her choose him to die...
I agree that and I think in the/a book context that works better. But I don't see them focusing on those children or developing their characters much given the shows pace. So I think the way they went serves the show very well. But yeah, it friggin' wild in the book.
@@yetibeardson1168depending on how many seasons the writers have the “war” last versus any post war story; there will probably be a time jump within a few seasons to focus on the children getting older and having to fight during the war.
@@eventingirl001 Not if they stick to the book timeline which they have more or less been doing. The actual civil war only lasts about two years.
But yeah they could just expand that timeline for sure.
Kingsguard are allowed to fight in wars by the way! If you remember in Game of Thrones, Ser Barristan Selma was a war veteran as well as Kingsguard
"I'm a fascist government and I've taken over your household." 😅😅😅
That line alone was worth a sub!!
Criston Cole raised Aemond cause Aemond never had real father. So yes.
And i dont get the hate against Aegon from you, he literally trying be good king.
Aegon is trying to be *liked* . There is a difference. He spent his whole life being a deadbeat whom no one wanted. He desires attention, he wants to be loved, but he has no idea how to be a king. And he is doing a shitty job of it on his own.
@@hedinsee6830 I mean everyone wants to be liked and loved, I feel bad for Aegon, he is trying to be a good king regardless of his intentions... Better than behaving like Joffrey. Plus he never asked to be King and he doesn't want to. Aegon is a really interesting character tbh
@@hedinsee6830 Everyone hide! A king is trying to have a good reputation, disgraceful. Out of all the people who sit that thrown, one having the motivation of being liked is far from the worse. Hell, probably one of the best. He'll find out what the small folk want and try his best to deliver. And with training, he could succeed. It is not a horrible trait like a few people are making it out to be.
He's a serial rapist and doesn't know how to run a kingdom 🤷🏻♀️
@@rexibhazoboa7097 You are missing the point. A child (yes, he is behaving like a child since he was never taught differently) trying to please the first person he sees does not make a good king. The results of such an experiment will be disastrous.
He is not doing what a king would do to ensure a good and well-regarded rule. He is doing impulsive and, most importantly, selfish things both in the public eye and out of it. He is doing "what smallfolk want" in an audience for the appearance. Not for their benefit, but for his. All the other decisions affecting the rest of the population beyond the couple dozen in the throne room at that point are made out f their view. And unsurprisingly he suddenly does not give a damn about the details. Listen to the rest of his "decisions" throughout the episode.
And people conveniently seem to forget his history in this episode. Yes, he got the short end of the stick in his education, but that in no way, shape or form excuse what he made of himself. Let's review. He is an epitome of a deadbeat husband, a cruel and capricious sociopath, a rapist, a sadist who enjoys his own bastard children fight to the death...
The best that could be expected of his rule would actually be his short attention span with him tiring of the business of ruling quickly and his council taking the reins completely. Just as Alicent described.
11:50 Alicent: Where is duty?? Where is sacrifice??
Crispy: Its trampled between your pretty legs😂😂
*after the act
Alicent: Exhausting, wasnt it??
Crispy: Hiding beneath the cloak of your own righteous gown? Yes it was😂😂
This 🤌🏽😂😂😂😂
Alicent the widow sleeping with a kings guard who has already broken his oath with rhaeneyra is not equivalent to having 3 bastards as the heir to the throne 😂😂😂
@@yashorajsingh4276 your widow understood each signal of Kinslayer Larys without him having to say anything and discreetly performed each step like a telepathic witch to entertain a murderous coont sexually just after her husband, the King has passed away.
That CLEARLY explains that the act began to happen way before Viserys, her husband, the King was even dead taking into account how she knew what act to perform to each of Larys' signals.
HYPOCRITE
@@yashorajsingh4276that widow understood each signal of Kinslayer Larys without him having to say anything and discreetly performed each step like a telepathic to entertain a murderous coont s*xually just after her husband, the King has passed away.
That CLEARLY explains that the act began to happen way before Viserys, her husband, the King was even dead taking into account how she knew what act to perform to each of Larys' signals.
HYPOCRITE
@@yashorajsingh4276 that widow understood each signal of heinous murderer Larys without him having to say anything and discreetly performed each step like a telepathic to entertain a murderous coont sesually just after her husband, the King has passed away.
That CLEARLY explains that the act began to happen way before Viserys, her husband, the King was even dead taking into account how she knew what act to perform to each of Larys' signals.
HYPOCRITEs
I totaly agree that Phia played Helaena's reaction EXACTLY the way one would expect Helaena to react given the way the character was established in season 1. Great reaction - it was almost like what my reaction would have been had I been looking in a mirror the first time I watched it!
💚Team Green supporter here💚
i swear..the moment i heard those muffled screams and the cutting noises, i couldn't breathe😭😭 that poor baby 😭😭😭 they will haunt me for a long time i know that. Sure i wished they would've done it the same way that it was in the books but only because of Helaena! Now it looked like she didn't loved her son, because she give up on him so easy..in the book, she pleads to be killed and not her son and there is so much more..but! Helaena was in shock, and Phia did such a great job 😭😭 really
team green
Ah two traitors
@@drrohanjacob don't care team green is cooler than team black
@@DarklotusDD2 Yeah sure as cool as 🦤 dodo
@@drrohanjacob The only traitor is Rhaenyra pretending there are no consequences to her actions. Rhaenyra is a spoiled brat in every sense of the word who expects everyone to see things her way.
I'm just a bit disappointed we lost the "Choose who dies" moment. It makes the whole scene so much more traumatic and shocking, it's the thing that tips it over the edge. Also, still no Daeron!
naw this is still tv
@@michaelriggs325 You don't need to add any blood or gore to the scene. Just the fact Helaena has to choose between her children, and the one she chose lives.
Exactly and missing Maelor
@theshadowling1 She did essentially choose, just without the direct wording.
@@foulrot And the one she chose to live lived. Which defeats the point of the choice.
I was actually surprise at how kindly Aegon treated the petitioners. He doesn't seem as vindictive as last season. He was far less callous to their requests than the Hand. I don't think he was terrible at that at all. He was trying to be kind to them. And taking a tithe right before winter is cruel, he was trying to alleviate that. The Hand could care less.
And Aegon clearly loved his son... which means his reaction to his death is going to flip all that I suspect.
I'm also surprised that the dragon saddles don't have a pennant for identification unique to each rider. It would make sense for ease of identification, and likely wouldn't interfere at all if placed correctly. Trailing behind the saddle or even a smaller one on a short pole (that could be used as a spear) on the front, would have no significant drag, nor get in the way of wings or limbs.
Also funny the same people bashing the Rings of Power wigs sure are silent about this shows wigs even though there is no difference in how they stand out.
The intro is like Helaena said
*_"Dragons of flesh weaving dragons of thread"_*
“It wasn’t funny” and “you need to do better”
Clarus putting the smack down in the house 😂
"How many quilted fabric things do you soak with blood?"... Aemma Targaryen's birthing and death bead, for one... 🙄
Actually aegon is a good king lol you can see he is trying
It’s his first day. The novelty will wear off.
Really not thinking about the livestock as taxes for the war was his one goof.
Announcing that he'll burn the enemy ships would be the logical move to break a blockade. It kills room for negotiating but not totally.
Paying the blacksmiths in advance to guarantee production makes sense also. Need the weapons and best to keep them making them happy.
Lmao the two cut scenes when he’s all he came all the way and they won’t know is hilarious
@@SteezLouise More so the war is kicked into overdrive. Can't really wear off and become bored if your son has been murdered and you now have to be fully engaged in a war to keep yourself and the rest of your family alive
Aegon was actually good dealing with the petitioners, not sure what yall are seeing tbh
exactly he was the only one trying to help the smallfolk
Hey Nerdy....I thought it was a good joke. 🙂
Also, Lord Larys burnt down the White Worms "headquarters" at the end of season one. She was on the run. At least that's how it seems to me.
Aegon is bad at being king because no one prepared him for it, viserys literally ignored him
I get it's cool to hate on Aegon but why are yall acting like he did something wrong this episode ? He literally is helping the smallfolk something joffery would never do & yall keep comparing the Greens to joffrey cause yall love for team black😂& hate green so are we forgetting the guy who killed his wife with a rock ? Same guy helped kill a innocent guy to rhaenyra fake husband ? How about sending ppl to kill kids ? Idk how yall think only team green is bad when black is just as bad if not worse
When aegon walked into Helaenas room, the maids looked terrified, they are smallfolk as well. So even though Aegon is an interesting character, he’s still a rapist.
Also they didn’t kill laenor, thought that was established.
They clearly don't understand Aegon's character at all. He is a good king. He isn't an idiot. He is just careless and nonchalant, not dumb. He is also a loving father. In the books i don't think he raped anybody. He was a creep though but not a rapist.
I mean he's trying to be good it doesn't mean he is but he is more complex that they think
Dragoncock just makes me think it’s got scales and will burn you
Ser Christon Cole wasn't at his post. He was the post 👀😂
Alexa, order a new pair of period underwear.
"They must have pictures they pass around to identify all the dragons." - This is literally still how pilots and the soldiers manning anti-aircraft batteries learned how to identify both friendly and enemy planes right up through the 20th century before radars became good enough to do the identifying.
In the book, the torture of B&C was so brutal that it totally broke Helaena and she didn't eat, sleep,talk and didn't even take care her remaining children anymore. 😢
I was like what did corlys do? 😂
I really enjoy dog scene
I heard what episode title was was going to be quite awhile ago, A Son for a son. The episode in Got wasn't called The Red Wedding, it was called The Rains of Castamere. The Red Wedding was a nickname for the episode.😊
Ooooo good to know! That's my bad
The Rains of Castamere gives it away for book readers just as much. At the time I don't think they held back titles either so..
How can people watch this show with only one headphone in???
Alicent: Aemond accidentally murdered his nephew!
Otto: Boys will be boys 🤷🏼♂️
I give you…. BLOOD AND CHEESE. The heir to the iron throne is dead. 😵 🤌🏼. The intro at WINTERFEL and castle black MAGNIFICENT. Cregan stark wearing ICE strapped to his back 🤌🏼🤌🏼🫶🏻‼️‼️😌🐉🐉🐉🐉 can’t wait for the next episode
Cranky Criston is the kind of the character who...I'm so sick of his bs, I just wanna be like, "Can you just go away, sir? Like if you could die in a fire, that'd be great, I just don't want you HERE ruining my good time."
The ending scene is significantly worse in the books. The boy was the target from the get go. They tied her and alicent up and made her choose which of her 2 sons was gonna die when she refused they threatened to r... her daughter she chooses the younger son hoping he didn't know what was happening then blood leaned in and whispered to him "see that boy your mom wants you dead" and then kills his brother.
Nerdy please tell you you didn't think that giant inflatable on the empire state building was real. It's so clearly cgi. Same as all the banners and other stuff. Come on people
tbh I think the last scene would’ve been better if it was like the book (or what I’ve read happened in the book), having to chose between Jaehaerys and Jaehaera doesn’t really make sense to me
we all said that already
Olive us pledge complete loyalty to The Garden of Unlimited Breadsticks. In Olivis, Veritas.
The problem with Amazon Prime isn't the CGI, but the writing. No amount of experience fixes hiring hack writers.
Can you guess why Aegon cannot become king? he doesn't know how to. King Viserys brought Rhaenyra to the council since she's small to learn. He even accepted her ideas to solve problems before. He never brought Aegon to his council because he never intended to make him king. Rhaenyra will know exactly what to say to all those pheasants, Aegon does not.
The people calling this “red wedding-like” WILL change their mind later. I know exactly which scene will be that deceiving but people and spoilers don’t mix.
You guys think maybe Alyn the shipwright has his head and face completely shaven?
Directly after Larys says he has chosen her new staff, she wants to bathe alone? Layers.
Aegon is an idiot when it comes to practical matters, but he's at least not a cruel little prick by nature. I think that scene is meant to show us that he's not Joffrey.
Dragon Airport. lol
Harsh vs cruel is an important distinction.
Claroos calling out Aegon's need for love. Exactly my read on the character.
What tickles me about everyone hyping up Vhagar and Aemond is that they don’t know it was an accident. B&C still managed to kill a member on the Royal family despite the dragons presence. Vhagar is only a deterrent for direct attacks, not surgical ones. Basically Targaryen’s put way too much on the dragons, they don’t really think outside the box most times
o.O?!
'Tampon'?! YIKES!
How 'bout a 'DRESSING' (Wound)? LOL
I watched the episode, but now that I watch the reactions, I never notice that the Royal Guards are to busy getting drunk with Aegon, so drunk and stupid that not notice Blood and Cheese walk in front of them, and Cole is so busy having sex with Alicent that he never bother to order the guards partially guard the Queen, no even in the book they are this incompetent, well, maybe Aegon, but at least the Kings Guards did their jobs.
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What's interesting, is if you watch the episode closely, you can actually see Cheese walking around in the background of multiple scenes throughout the episode to show that it's not unusual to see him walking around the castle. It also shows how none of the characters, not even us, pay attention to the smallfolk.
Still team Black 🖤 sorry greens, I feel for Helena I do. But both sides are going to be doing some heinous stuff...
Came for the gorgeous redhead, but stayed because you guys are legit hilarious to watch. Looking forward to more. \m/
Yeah the sound of them decapitating the boy was horrible 😢
8:00 "Old dudes" in that world are probably guys in their late 40s - early 50s.
Aegon really isn’t that bad of a king. He just needed normal counselors. In reality he tried to do the good thing, didn’t realize he couldn’t be blunt about it 😅
36:49 - “Incest lubricant” is fucking wild. Love it.
They gonna question Criston about his whereabouts during the night.. cant wait :D
Was actually so heartbroken for Halaena and also Aegon in a sense. Same pain that Rhaenyra felt, but Halaena actually watched her son die and get beheaded as well 💔
the murder scene is worse in the books.
The kids are a bit older. And there are two sons.
The murderers asks haleana which one is the heir... and they kill the other one... So the surviving son knows his mother chose him to die.
I could watch aegon hearing petitions all day and Otto trying to tell him why he shouldn’t give everyone what they want instantly.
I knew the Stark theme a second in. I knew where we were. Knowing music informs SO much of this show.
Did anyone else notice Helaena stopped and gasped and was completely rerouted when she got to the middle of the bottom floor? How is nobody talking about this???? She clearly saw something??? And they clearly pan the camera to show you it wasn't a person. Ghost of the former king??? Someone else dead? Just Sir Krispy Kremes absense maybe??? I cant find anyone talking about this moment???
Pretty sure it was still just a reaction of shock. She was clearly looking for someone, anyone and couldn’t find anyone. It just looked like she truly grasped that she was on her own and what had happened in that moment, and so was about to be overcome by panic, but then she went back into autopilot and kept searching.
@@a.j.1819 I would agree with you if it was filmed the way it was filmed, they were very intentional on how they swung the camera around to see here perspective. What would be the point of that???
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To be fair, Damon avenging his stepson is doing the twisted stepdad shit.
4 minutes in and I Clarisse is out her just reminding me of why she’s one of my favorite reactors, and on top of that she could probably turn me straight 😂😂😂
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45:18 - Oh, you’ll see. “Listen to your elders” will be his lesson.
27:31 why do I get the feeling man is going to say this to her *Afterwards* from now on
I can't wait ''The red Kraken's appearance XD
Jesus is this guy 5?! 🙄 my wife made fun of me oh woe is me....
Please stop looking at the ground and laughing
You can get a similar noise cutting through pig flesh roughly...
Why didn’t tyland just let the kid have the ball
Poor Corlys catching strays 🤣
Criston Cole was probably supposed to be on guard duty, which made it easier for the intruders to get to the Queen and her children.
I would guess he 'guards' the queens every night. But as commander of the KL he should be the one stationing the other knights at their posts. There's no reason to not have a guard at the Queen's chamber doors, so somebody f'ed up big time.
4:45 HOD Opening: The tapestry of Targaryen history.
Ancient valyrians practicing magic
Daenys dream of the fall
The fall of Valyria
Aegon and his sisters flying over Westeros
Harren the black
Conquest of Harrenhal and the Field of Fire
The North, The Riverlands and The Eyrie bending the knee without a fight
House Targaryen established as the Rulers of Westeros
The construction of the Red Keep
The death of Maegor the Cruel
King Jahaerys the Conciliator and Queen Alysanne
Old King Jahaerys at the Great Council of Harrenhal (Viserys I nomination to the Thorne)
The court of Viserys I split between Alicent and Rhaenyra
Aegon II vs Rhaenyra I
Lucerys death.
Long live King Aegon II targaryen!!! 🟩🟢🌳🍏
To extinction of his line😂
@@drrohanjacobAt least he is remembered as a ruler. Unlike Rhaenyra the pretender
@@maryjaneholland6732what r u talking about, Rhaenyra lives on and on whereas Aegon is just a shite stain blip in the line😏
@@maryjaneholland6732 Like that actually matters, Otto wanted Hightower blood on the throne and didnt even last a generation yet Im supposed to belive the greens "won"
@@bluegypsy71Rhaenyra is known as a usurper lol
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Remember, she’s home was put on fire by Larys in the last season.
Sorry, she = White Worm
I thought the tampon joke was good.😅😂
You guys saw that after saying that she is afraid of the rats she looked directly at the cradle of little Jaehaerys, she had a prophetic dream about the death of her own son. And before Aegon entered the room, Helaena said, "They just want the boy".