I think Portia loves her daughters, but she’s very much a realist and a woman of her time. She prioritises finding suitable matches for her daughters because she understands that for most women of the ton, that’s the only way to guarantee a somewhat happy life. She’s sort of the antithesis to Violet because the idea of a true love match is foreign to her, but I do believe that she’s happy Pen was able to find what neither her nor her other daughters were able to.
Absolutely. I think making her the antithesis of Violet was entirely on purpose by the author. There are different kinds of love, and in this case, one is a more controlling type, where she thinks there's only one way to safety and happiness, a good match.
True but her timing with Colin’s wedding not passed and the grandbaby on the way, Violets overwhelmed and also doesn’t want to anger the queen. There’s so much going on.
18:03 "all you do is talk" and "you are envious I have made something of myself" is also the exact same thing Pen said to Eloise in their fight. Which makes it cut even deeper
I liked this exchange because of Cressida's ignorance about Pen being LW, and Eloise having to go along with it. Cressida did take a big, society-defying risk by claiming to be LW, but she didn't actually make something of herself. She just took credit for Pen's work. Cressida has good reason to be angry with Eloise after being ignored and mocked by her, but that jab was too far. Ironically, Eloise finds herself fighting the urge to defend Pen and what Pen made of herself - something Eloise would have laughed at up to now. It doesn't mean anyone is right (about Eloise being jealous or about LW being a virtuous accomplishment), but it does serve a purpose in reconnecting Eloise with Pen. I only wish Eloise had been called out for not listening or paying attention to those close to her, not just for being vocal about her beliefs.
10:33 I think it's not just about her pride. Pen managed to make a name for herself, that too at a time like that. And all of a sudden someone else snatched away the very identity that she worked so hard for, and now she has to choose between Whistledown or Colin. It's kind of like in modern day, what we call it, the "You have to give up your career after marriage". It's not a simple situation with this or that. Neither option lead to true happiness for Pen.
And also the person that took her identity was someone that tormented her every single season I feel like so many people don’t understand why she doesn’t want to give up Whistledown
@@elliegd Exactly right Cressida definitely didn't deserve to take credit for Penelope's life work and I mean Cressida didn't even write that paper who mother did because Cressida doesn't have the words like Penelope does....I really don't like Cressida she's an awful person I don't feel sorry for her whatsoever!
Portia is hard on her girls now so she can insure the have gentle lives when she’s not there to protect them. Look at who she married her girls too- two men who adore her girls beyond compare and who won’t cheat or swindle them. Shes trying to make sure her girls are financially sound with men who care about them more than Portia’s husband cared or provided for her.
Well now I just need the watchalongs to 7 and 8 asap! This season was so good and that ending! Poor Colin. As for Francesca's looks at Penelope, I think it's because she's envious of how happy Violet is for Colin and Pen's marriage, while seeming to not be in favour of Francesca's. That's why she looks as she does.
I think it's more than just that... she is upset her mom is not as excited as she is for Penelope & Colin but Francesca probably secretly wants to be that much in love to be as happy & excited as Penelope & Colin are with their engagement...
@@TempSS2677 no no she is in love love with him trust me she's just a young girl that expected her mom to be very happy about her mariage like she was for Daphné ans simon or Kate and Anthony .. or Pen and Colin
I get why Pen wouldn't want to give up Whistledown tbh, for that time period when women essentially weren't expected or really allowed to work, she's basically a self made millionaire. Also she never had any power in society, she was a "wallflower" so I reckon it'd be tough to let that go.
In the book, Colin discovers Penelope in the same way: he followed her in his carriage one afternoon when he saw her leaving in a hackney carriage. At that moment Cressida was trying to impersonate Lady Whistledown and Penelope couldn't stand it because it is her career, her life's work and the last thing she wanted was for something so important to her to be stolen by someone she despised so much because of all the bullying that she did for years. That's why Penelope can't just forget about her business because it's her passion. When Colin followed her, Penelope was going to leave a writing discrediting Cressida completely just like in the show.
I feel extremely sorry for Mrs Featherington. Unless they have a male heir soon, they can still lose their home. She's not trying to be evil, she's trying to make sure her daughters don't die in a ditch.
The Montridge party is dedicated to Penelope, as if you’ve noticed, the decor is wallflowers. The central feature displays how a wallflower can bloom. Penelope doesn’t want to give up Whistledown, it is part of who she is. I’m glad you noticed the music! ( In episode 5, POV was played during the love scene, the lyrics suit the situation perfectly.) I don’t think Pen is jealous, she is angry, because the person who bullied her relentlessly is now taking credit for her writing ability and cleverness, and the paper which she has poured so much of herself into. I don’t think its so much about the Featheringtons, but rather, how Pen is reconcile her identity with her love for Colin. You are gonna love episode 7, because youll get an idea of how he can be blazing angry at Pen, but still love her.
The Mondrich's storyline is to show the struggles of going from not well off to rich. How it's difficult adjusting and that just because you're suddenly rich doesn't mean you want to behave like other rich people.
You guys need to remember women were powerless in those times. Being lady Whistledown was an amazing feat. Penelope is a powerful woman and everything she wrote weren't lies. Her gossip is legit. She should have told Colin but I understand her reasons. And she was very young when she started writing.
I don't think Lady Featherington is fake about her love for her daughters. Caring about standing and caring about your children are not mutually exclusive. You have to remember what time period they are in. They have no male relative to take care of them so marriage is essential.
Its not about pride so much as Pen has made a livelihood with the Whistledown column...its like if some hack claimed your body of written work, and your best friend is is telling you to take it on the chin and throw it all away. And Eloise is a self absorbed brat. Pen saved Colin from a loveless marriage with Marina and Eloise from being accused of being Whistledown by the queen...which would have ruined both Fran's and Hyancinth's prospects. Furthermore, what Pen wrote about Eloise didnt destroy her "virtue," so besides a little gossip and snide looks, no one is even talking about what was written about Eloise in Whistledown! And what Pen wrote about Colin earlier this season was true lol. Colin is just mad someone called him out!
How about she stops being a coward and says it to his face? How are you going to apparently chat shit about someone you care about unprovoked. Eloise said let Cressida take the fall because Penelope already said she would give it up and she knew it would ruin Pen and Colin’s relationship if he found out so even though she didn’t want her friend with her brother she was still thinking about their relationship. In ‘saving Colin’ from marrying Marina, she simultaneously damned another young woman, her FAMILY mind you, to hell. The reason why you guys don’t realise the severity of that is because this show didn’t want to go ask dark as it was alluding to and made Phillip conveniently marry her. The reality is, Marina could have ended up in the streets maybe even having to resort to prostitution, she could have died. My lord, you guys who absolve Penelope of every wrongdoing when she’s done the most harm on the show are unbelievable.
@@Pestopasta_ in the show, Marina is conveniently married off and unharmed. In the show, Eloise is unharmed by her association with radical thinkers because of her family's good name and wealth. The Bridgertons also conveniently used gossip to save Daphne from Berbrooke in season 1. Lady Whistledown's comments about Colin didn't even hurt anything but his feelings, and that's because what she wrote was true! It's not about absolving Pen of any wrongdoing she's ever done... It's about the show showing us time and time again that gossip is a tool used in the ton to get things done and is a common and enjoyable pastime, and Pen just so happens to be the wielder of that tool. Even more so, the show is about multilayered characters who do both wrong and good for various intentions. I don't hate any character, but they ALL have room to grow, which is the point of character development! I most certainly don't hate Eloise, and I understand why she is so upset having discovered her best pal of years has hidden a secret and wrote a briefly damaging thing about her in a scandal sheet, BUT I also see that Eloise is very self absorbed and self righteous and willing to use LW's brand of power to "save" her family when she chooses to do so. So, I'm not condemning Pen for wanting to save her friends in the simplest way she knows how when she's gone through her life basically unheard and unseen, even by her best friend, it turns out. I'm not even going to condemn her for sometimes writing in anger or when her emotions are high or for making poor choices. ALL OF THEM HAVE. Remember Daphne basically assaulting Simon in season 1? Anthony LITERALLY nearly going through with marrying Kate's sister when he KNEW Edwina wasn't "the one"? Colin saying to his friends that he would never in his wildest fantasies court Penelope Featherington, potentially damaging her already scarce prospects within the marriage mart by seemingly insinuating that HE would never "stoop so low"? And yes, while Pen could have simply told Colin she was LW, why do you possibly think she would do that given her how she has been treated in the previous seasons, and against Colin's supposed desire to dance on the day of LW's demise, and amid the loss of best friend and Eloise's ongoing anger, and family that is basically tolerant of her at BEST, with no marriage prospects, and no real way to spend her money without suspicion? If we are speaking of what COULD have happened here, Pen would have been left alone and bereft in an isolated bubble (so she believes and is like likely given her family's weird standing). To think she would willingly put herself in that situation, to be unloved by and invisible to all she cares for, is absolutely laughable. She's also young in the story and quite simply hasn't learned enough to KNOW better or how to DO better yet. So I offer her grace, as I do all of these characters, in order to keep watching this show. Let's think critically about ALL of our characters and their motivations, and the fact that the ton, INCLUDING previously Eloise, all enjoy and use LW to their advantage until she turns her metaphorical sword their way.
@@ivw685 I absolutely 100% agree with everything you said. I don't understand people in the comments being so judgmental towards Penelope when all the other characters in the show are doing the things that she is reporting. People don't judge her when others use LW for their own benefits (Burbrook, Cressida etc.) But when Pen use it for herself they complain. I understand why she had to out Marina. She had tried to talk to Porsche, was ignored, to Marina, was ridiculed for loving Colin and stood her ground about trapping him. She even tried to warn Colin that Marina loved someone else without telling him about the pregnancy, but even he didn't listen. So when she discovered that they were going to elope that morning, she had no other choice but to use LW. No one listened to her but everyone listens to LW. And it didn't distroy Marina. She got a better deal than she would have gotten with Colin. She clearly didn't love him she only wanted security for herself and her children. She got more than that she got a large estate, a young handsome husband with a title who knows about the pregnancy and wants her to give his brother's children the home and life they would have had if his brother George had not been killed in war. When Colin came to see her in season 2 she told him basically to get a life. She also told him to seek out Penelope. She knew that Penelope loves Colin and would be good for him. I believe she knew Penelope was LW because nobody but the Featheringtons knew she was pregnant and only Penelope had objections. Penelope is condemned for using LW for saving her friends. She never lied in LW. Also, having the dueling Whistledowns, Cressida's against Penelope's, shows the difference between a great gossip writer and a vindictive wanna be. I'm sure that the ton noticed the difference and appreciated the true Whistledown.
Bathroom during that time: a bowl of water inside the room and a pot to do your thing 😅 and a tub if you got really lucky. Oh and a ton of perfume - the bottles were massive compared to today. Also the man had a pot often in their dining rooms. If the ladys were gone and they needed it they just did it in front of other man. In Edinburgh you can visit the georgian house which shows an example of how people of the upper class lived during the time period that bridgerton is using.
So the episodes named after the books in the previous seasons were the episodes where the couple gets married, even if in Anthony’s case it happened offscreen. So in season 1 it was actually episode 5.
The Francesca Gkare moment I don’t think was malicious in any way. I think it’s just that she’s seeing her mother be very enthusiastic about Colin and Penelope and she is feeling a bit like her mother isn’t very pleased with her match with John. Francesca just wants her mother to be enthusiastic and happy for her own match as well. She knows her mother isn’t feeling the natch she’s made in John. ❤
@@Richie___Rich I now have an add on theory but it might be spoilers if I go into too much detail. She may also be looking and wondering why she isn’t as excited as well.
Francesca absolutely loves John. I think the scene Rob is talking about when Francesca is looking at Pen, she's jealous. Not at Pen, but how Violet is so openly excited about Colin and Pen but not about her and John.
The interpretation I felt for Francesca “glaring” at Pen was more like envy at the situation and sadness at her own circumstance. Pen and Colin get to celebrate their engagement put in the open but Violet won’t let John and Francesca announce theirs because she’s worried about upsetting the queen.
That really was the worst way for Colin to find out also I do think it would be interesting if the show did confirm Benedict as bi and they explore it in the next season
Concidering that Pen is the narrator of the show thus far, and the Featheringtons were introduced along with the Bridgertons even in the very first scene of the whole show, I think it was to be expected that the Featheringtons would have a large role in the season where Pen is the female lead. I think the season is kinda split in that the first 4 episodes showed more of Colin's pov while these last 4 lean heavily towards Pen. Which one would guess honestly, she IS Lady Whistledown.
Francesca wasnt looking at pen but the reaction her mother had towards Pen and Colin compared to the reaction and energy she has towards her and john sterlings relationship
I don’t know if someone beat me to it, but I’m glad they finally showed a reading of the banns. It’s normal in their day to get married a month after you announce it. The church will announce the banns like the minister did once a week, and make sure there’s no reason they can’t marry. It gives them time to come forward too if they hear about it late. It will go in the paper too, but not everyone can read. If one marries by special license, no banns are needed, but it’s expensive. One might do that to hide an illegitimate child or avoid family rejection. It’s technically not always scandalous, but it could be. There is also the town of Gretna Green, Scotland, which exists right over the border with England. No banns are needed in Scotland, so if you were avoiding family completely and don’t have the money for a license, off to Gretna you go. A Vegas of their time. It even shows up in Downton Abbey, which takes place 90-100 years later. Book wise, this is the early 1820s. Downton takes place from 1911-1928, so far.
Fun fact: the actress playing Prudence Featherington is a nepo baby - her Father is Jim Carter, the head butler on Downton Abbey, and her Mother is actress Imelda Staunton.
a sink was basically, a large bowl that you poured water in and worked with that alone........ so dirty water right away.... hope you have more easily or thats it now.
Please react to hannah other series.. Who play francesca.. Hannah as corrine in series 'Flowers In The Attic:The Origin' are amazing. And also as cicely and sarah chapman in Enola Holmes 2.
*It's just so funny how Cressida was like "i don't want anyone to see me" meanwhile she's literally wearing the brightest pink with the largest bows in it. Bro be fr.*
I agree so much with all of you guys critiques on this season, specially that even though the show is called Bridgerton and Colin is supposed to be as much of a protagonist as Penelope they have him on the background and he's much more just a love interest than a protagonist, which is a disservice to both the actor and the character
I agreed that the 2nd part was more about Lady Whistledown and Penelope's journey then Polin- it was too unbalanced...I wanted to see more of Colin and his struggles and his pursuit of his writing. The book excels I this way....I also feel like the split into two parts made it more unbalanced.
Penelope told Eloise that she's going to tell Colin once she published the column discrediting Cressida. She can't stop at that time because she knew that Cressida would ruin her column with lies and if it was learned later that Penelope was LW no one would believe that the lies wasn't from Penelope Also, to allow your bully to take your successful business is like someone who hates you take your RUclips Channel that has 5k subscribers and trashing it. You wouldn't want that, but Penelope only stopped because of Eloise and mostly for Colin.
To me, Eloise and Cressida’s relationship ending just furthers my own opinion that Eloise was never a good friend, not to Penelope nor anyone else. We see Cressida try to talk to Eloise about her parents forcing her to marry an elderly man and wanting to get out of it. Eloise preaches feminism and going against society, but the moment a friend comes to her in a truly awful situation she’s all 🤷🏻♀️ about it. She offers no real help, has no sympathy for her, and ignores her during some of the conversations Cressida starts about it. She doesn’t even listen to the reasons why Cressida is claiming to be LW, she just immediately thinks Cressida awful and ends their friendship without any empathy towards her situation. It’s exactly like how she reacted when she learned Pen was LW. and even Cressida mirrors what Pen said to Eloise, that she’s jealous. And she definitely is. With the redemption they gave Cressida in the first half of the season, I was really sad to see they vilified her here, I was really hoping she’d get to get away from her family by marrying debling but they had him disappear
Well deserved, Cressida was a bully for more than half of the seasons, she deserves some consequences, anyways at least Eloise don’t bully people out of the fun of it.
I was only guessing someone’s bruises on the arms was an abusive husband and assuming it relates to the couple in penelopes whistledown issue in episode 7? Lmk other theories!
I don’t know why they barely have any scenes together… I don’t get it tbh 🤷🏻♀️ I really wished this season was focused on Polin maybe one or 2 sides stories at most to compliment it… sorry to the fans, don’t hate me, I’m sorry I’m disappointed ✌🏼
Zuff is right. This season isn’t about the romance. Colin felt like an afterthought in his own supposed season. Unfortunately with the new showrunner I think that’s what future seasons will also be like. More the drama, less the romance which is extremely disappointing
im convinced the writers lowkey hate Penelope.. everything they needed to write her story was in the book but they took it and twisted it around throughout the show and made a huge mess of it. giving Cressida her sympathetic B-plot DURING PENELOPES SEASON?? Crazy choice to make. It makes it harder for the audience to understand Pen's frustration at Cressida, of all people, taking credit for her work. They also basically copy & pasted Colin's story onto Eloise in S2 for some reason.. even though they KNEW they'd be doing Colin & Pen in S3 which also makes it harder to understand why penelope would continue to lie to Colin despite Eloise already knowing & them literally being engaged. In the book he finds out BEFORE theyre engaged.
One of the biggest problems with this season is that they split it up into two different groups. It didn’t work for me. Instead of a constant story it changed the dynamics of the story. I hope they don’t do that again next season. I went back and watched the whole season from start to finish and it was so much better to watch.
I feel like Benedict's storyline this season just felt like a way to introduce the fact that he's interested in both men and women cause like its going NOWHERE I don't understand why they just got rid of his love for art and painting
@@Nightcore_Revolution Cressida doesn’t pretend to be somebody she’s not. Yes she is a bully but that doesn’t give Eloise any excuse especially if you claimed to be her friend
@SubKween bridgerton Fandom is literally the only Fandom I've seen that has a problem with a male character turning out to be queer. So many other Fandoms I've been apart of would have lost their minds out Benedict, but the bridgerton girls actively hates it. It's just so wild to me.
@@SubKween lmao you are insane and need therapy. Benedict didn’t add ANYTHING to this season, he was just there having sex. I couldn’t care less about his story because there was no real connection with either of his partners. I was more interested in Francesca (who may I add they are making gay in the series and I have no problem with) than Benedict, Francesca had a real plot. So many 3 minute scenes, so many pointless scenes, etc this has nothing to do with being gay. Get help and get out of the internet.
@@SubKween You are absolutely ridiculous if you see homophobia where there is not, seriously get some help. Benedict’s scenes were useless and added nothing to Polin’s story or his own. I couldn’t care less about him this season because there was no real connection with his partners.
The girl-boss thing where she says she can’t give up Whistledown in super annoying. You’d rather write a gossip column than spend your life with the man of your dreams?
Please get to episode 8 already it's the best episode out of them all....Reactionaries take forever to just get to the last episode! I've already watched all 8 episodes or I should say that I watched at least the Polin scenes because that is the only couple I like from this whole series the rest of the couples are boring and would be way too much for me to watch!
Benedict running away from the throuple made me so sad 😭😭 I hope it's temporary because he's just scared! 🙏 This is a way more interesting arc to me than the obvious main couple we know are getting together 😂 But that might just be my poly heart hoping for some legit representation 😅🤷
I am not liking this one... how is season 4 going to be about with out Pen and Lady Whistledown... I really am finding this one boring... and just to say I didn't like the soft porn of this one...
Cressida isn't a freaking Saint she bullies Penelope every chance and I for one don't feel sorry for Cressida....and I honestly don't know how anyone can feel sorry for her in any freaking way! She's an awful person!
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I think Portia loves her daughters, but she’s very much a realist and a woman of her time. She prioritises finding suitable matches for her daughters because she understands that for most women of the ton, that’s the only way to guarantee a somewhat happy life.
She’s sort of the antithesis to Violet because the idea of a true love match is foreign to her, but I do believe that she’s happy Pen was able to find what neither her nor her other daughters were able to.
Absolutely. I think making her the antithesis of Violet was entirely on purpose by the author. There are different kinds of love, and in this case, one is a more controlling type, where she thinks there's only one way to safety and happiness, a good match.
Agree, but I think Philipa was a love match
@@deniserosa5710 I couldn’t agree more. I’m a fan of Mr. Finch.
@@murphbee me too, what a cutie 🥰
Someone said she's always in survival mode and I couldn't agree more
i think francesca just wishes bridger mom was as excited about her engagement as she is about collins
yes, that's what that face was about
I thought she knew shes lw
@@sync_mxlly5610 I perceived it that way as well, the head tilt made me think she started putting the pieces together.
I think it has more to do with Francesca's choice going against Queen Charlotte's match.
True but her timing with Colin’s wedding not passed and the grandbaby on the way, Violets overwhelmed and also doesn’t want to anger the queen. There’s so much going on.
18:03 "all you do is talk" and "you are envious I have made something of myself" is also the exact same thing Pen said to Eloise in their fight. Which makes it cut even deeper
I liked this exchange because of Cressida's ignorance about Pen being LW, and Eloise having to go along with it. Cressida did take a big, society-defying risk by claiming to be LW, but she didn't actually make something of herself. She just took credit for Pen's work. Cressida has good reason to be angry with Eloise after being ignored and mocked by her, but that jab was too far. Ironically, Eloise finds herself fighting the urge to defend Pen and what Pen made of herself - something Eloise would have laughed at up to now. It doesn't mean anyone is right (about Eloise being jealous or about LW being a virtuous accomplishment), but it does serve a purpose in reconnecting Eloise with Pen. I only wish Eloise had been called out for not listening or paying attention to those close to her, not just for being vocal about her beliefs.
10:33 I think it's not just about her pride. Pen managed to make a name for herself, that too at a time like that. And all of a sudden someone else snatched away the very identity that she worked so hard for, and now she has to choose between Whistledown or Colin. It's kind of like in modern day, what we call it, the "You have to give up your career after marriage". It's not a simple situation with this or that. Neither option lead to true happiness for Pen.
And also the person that took her identity was someone that tormented her every single season
I feel like so many people don’t understand why she doesn’t want to give up Whistledown
@@elliegd Exactly right Cressida definitely didn't deserve to take credit for Penelope's life work and I mean Cressida didn't even write that paper who mother did because Cressida doesn't have the words like Penelope does....I really don't like Cressida she's an awful person I don't feel sorry for her whatsoever!
@@BleedingHeartFlowerCrying I do think Cressida was wrong for taking credit as Lady Whistledown but I also think she deserves some grace.
Portia is hard on her girls now so she can insure the have gentle lives when she’s not there to protect them. Look at who she married her girls too- two men who adore her girls beyond compare and who won’t cheat or swindle them. Shes trying to make sure her girls are financially sound with men who care about them more than Portia’s husband cared or provided for her.
I’m so glad you said that it indeed feels like the romance was in the background of the story
Well now I just need the watchalongs to 7 and 8 asap! This season was so good and that ending! Poor Colin. As for Francesca's looks at Penelope, I think it's because she's envious of how happy Violet is for Colin and Pen's marriage, while seeming to not be in favour of Francesca's. That's why she looks as she does.
Exactly! 😊
Francesca looked at Pen that way because she is upset that Violet is all excited about Pen and Colin but not about her and John.
I think it's more than just that... she is upset her mom is not as excited as she is for Penelope & Colin but Francesca probably secretly wants to be that much in love to be as happy & excited as Penelope & Colin are with their engagement...
@@TempSS2677 no no she is in love love with him trust me she's just a young girl that expected her mom to be very happy about her mariage like she was for Daphné ans simon or Kate and Anthony .. or Pen and Colin
I get why Pen wouldn't want to give up Whistledown tbh, for that time period when women essentially weren't expected or really allowed to work, she's basically a self made millionaire. Also she never had any power in society, she was a "wallflower" so I reckon it'd be tough to let that go.
In the book, Colin discovers Penelope in the same way: he followed her in his carriage one afternoon when he saw her leaving in a hackney carriage. At that moment Cressida was trying to impersonate Lady Whistledown and Penelope couldn't stand it because it is her career, her life's work and the last thing she wanted was for something so important to her to be stolen by someone she despised so much because of all the bullying that she did for years. That's why Penelope can't just forget about her business because it's her passion. When Colin followed her, Penelope was going to leave a writing discrediting Cressida completely just like in the show.
I love the church scenes. It gives us a real look at the genuine friendship between pen and Colin.
I feel extremely sorry for Mrs Featherington. Unless they have a male heir soon, they can still lose their home. She's not trying to be evil, she's trying to make sure her daughters don't die in a ditch.
The Montridge party is dedicated to Penelope, as if you’ve noticed, the decor is wallflowers. The central feature displays how a wallflower can bloom. Penelope doesn’t want to give up Whistledown, it is part of who she is. I’m glad you noticed the music! ( In episode 5, POV was played during the love scene, the lyrics suit the situation perfectly.) I don’t think Pen is jealous, she is angry, because the person who bullied her relentlessly is now taking credit for her writing ability and cleverness, and the paper which she has poured so much of herself into. I don’t think its so much about the Featheringtons, but rather, how Pen is reconcile her identity with her love for Colin. You are gonna love episode 7, because youll get an idea of how he can be blazing angry at Pen, but still love her.
*man laughs*
Rob: ew i just got the ick
you're so real for that 😭😭
The Mondrich's storyline is to show the struggles of going from not well off to rich. How it's difficult adjusting and that just because you're suddenly rich doesn't mean you want to behave like other rich people.
Yhea, but maybe they wouldve showed that in Benedicts season better in mirror of Sophie.
I think is also a parallel to Pen and LW.
“What does the bathroom look like in this time?? 🤔…do they have a sink”?? 😂😂
Asking the important questions!
They have referred to chamber pots several times, unclear on sinks tho 😂
They usually have a basin and a pitcher of water on a side table in their rooms.
@@wildoneizzy yes 😊😊😊😊😊
@@yeahjoanna what do they do in the chamber pots?🤔😑
@@janemary8339defecated I guess
You guys need to remember women were powerless in those times. Being lady Whistledown was an amazing feat. Penelope is a powerful woman and everything she wrote weren't lies. Her gossip is legit. She should have told Colin but I understand her reasons. And she was very young when she started writing.
I don't think Lady Featherington is fake about her love for her daughters. Caring about standing and caring about your children are not mutually exclusive. You have to remember what time period they are in. They have no male relative to take care of them so marriage is essential.
Its not about pride so much as Pen has made a livelihood with the Whistledown column...its like if some hack claimed your body of written work, and your best friend is is telling you to take it on the chin and throw it all away. And Eloise is a self absorbed brat. Pen saved Colin from a loveless marriage with Marina and Eloise from being accused of being Whistledown by the queen...which would have ruined both Fran's and Hyancinth's prospects. Furthermore, what Pen wrote about Eloise didnt destroy her "virtue," so besides a little gossip and snide looks, no one is even talking about what was written about Eloise in Whistledown!
And what Pen wrote about Colin earlier this season was true lol. Colin is just mad someone called him out!
How about she stops being a coward and says it to his face? How are you going to apparently chat shit about someone you care about unprovoked. Eloise said let Cressida take the fall because Penelope already said she would give it up and she knew it would ruin Pen and Colin’s relationship if he found out so even though she didn’t want her friend with her brother she was still thinking about their relationship. In ‘saving Colin’ from marrying Marina, she simultaneously damned another young woman, her FAMILY mind you, to hell. The reason why you guys don’t realise the severity of that is because this show didn’t want to go ask dark as it was alluding to and made Phillip conveniently marry her. The reality is, Marina could have ended up in the streets maybe even having to resort to prostitution, she could have died. My lord, you guys who absolve Penelope of every wrongdoing when she’s done the most harm on the show are unbelievable.
@@Pestopasta_ in the show, Marina is conveniently married off and unharmed. In the show, Eloise is unharmed by her association with radical thinkers because of her family's good name and wealth. The Bridgertons also conveniently used gossip to save Daphne from Berbrooke in season 1. Lady Whistledown's comments about Colin didn't even hurt anything but his feelings, and that's because what she wrote was true!
It's not about absolving Pen of any wrongdoing she's ever done... It's about the show showing us time and time again that gossip is a tool used in the ton to get things done and is a common and enjoyable pastime, and Pen just so happens to be the wielder of that tool.
Even more so, the show is about multilayered characters who do both wrong and good for various intentions. I don't hate any character, but they ALL have room to grow, which is the point of character development! I most certainly don't hate Eloise, and I understand why she is so upset having discovered her best pal of years has hidden a secret and wrote a briefly damaging thing about her in a scandal sheet, BUT I also see that Eloise is very self absorbed and self righteous and willing to use LW's brand of power to "save" her family when she chooses to do so. So, I'm not condemning Pen for wanting to save her friends in the simplest way she knows how when she's gone through her life basically unheard and unseen, even by her best friend, it turns out. I'm not even going to condemn her for sometimes writing in anger or when her emotions are high or for making poor choices. ALL OF THEM HAVE.
Remember Daphne basically assaulting Simon in season 1? Anthony LITERALLY nearly going through with marrying Kate's sister when he KNEW Edwina wasn't "the one"? Colin saying to his friends that he would never in his wildest fantasies court Penelope Featherington, potentially damaging her already scarce prospects within the marriage mart by seemingly insinuating that HE would never "stoop so low"? And yes, while Pen could have simply told Colin she was LW, why do you possibly think she would do that given her how she has been treated in the previous seasons, and against Colin's supposed desire to dance on the day of LW's demise, and amid the loss of best friend and Eloise's ongoing anger, and family that is basically tolerant of her at BEST, with no marriage prospects, and no real way to spend her money without suspicion? If we are speaking of what COULD have happened here, Pen would have been left alone and bereft in an isolated bubble (so she believes and is like likely given her family's weird standing). To think she would willingly put herself in that situation, to be unloved by and invisible to all she cares for, is absolutely laughable. She's also young in the story and quite simply hasn't learned enough to KNOW better or how to DO better yet. So I offer her grace, as I do all of these characters, in order to keep watching this show.
Let's think critically about ALL of our characters and their motivations, and the fact that the ton, INCLUDING previously Eloise, all enjoy and use LW to their advantage until she turns her metaphorical sword their way.
@@ivw685 yes😌😌😌😌😌😌
@@ivw685 I absolutely 100% agree with everything you said. I don't understand people in the comments being so judgmental towards Penelope when all the other characters in the show are doing the things that she is reporting. People don't judge her when others use LW for their own benefits (Burbrook, Cressida etc.) But when Pen use it for herself they complain. I understand why she had to out Marina. She had tried to talk to Porsche, was ignored, to Marina, was ridiculed for loving Colin and stood her ground about trapping him. She even tried to warn Colin that Marina loved someone else without telling him about the pregnancy, but even he didn't listen. So when she discovered that they were going to elope that morning, she had no other choice but to use LW. No one listened to her but everyone listens to LW. And it didn't distroy Marina. She got a better deal than she would have gotten with Colin. She clearly didn't love him she only wanted security for herself and her children. She got more than that she got a large estate, a young handsome husband with a title who knows about the pregnancy and wants her to give his brother's children the home and life they would have had if his brother George had not been killed in war. When Colin came to see her in season 2 she told him basically to get a life. She also told him to seek out Penelope. She knew that Penelope loves Colin and would be good for him. I believe she knew Penelope was LW because nobody but the Featheringtons knew she was pregnant and only Penelope had objections.
Penelope is condemned for using LW for saving her friends. She never lied in LW.
Also, having the dueling Whistledowns, Cressida's against Penelope's, shows the difference between a great gossip writer and a vindictive wanna be. I'm sure that the ton noticed the difference and appreciated the true Whistledown.
Aww Zach… “I would say only a quarter as beautiful as you.” Too sweet! ❤
Franchesca was comparing how welcoming her mother was to Penelope and how she is not very excited about her fiancé
Bathroom during that time: a bowl of water inside the room and a pot to do your thing 😅 and a tub if you got really lucky. Oh and a ton of perfume - the bottles were massive compared to today. Also the man had a pot often in their dining rooms. If the ladys were gone and they needed it they just did it in front of other man. In Edinburgh you can visit the georgian house which shows an example of how people of the upper class lived during the time period that bridgerton is using.
So the episodes named after the books in the previous seasons were the episodes where the couple gets married, even if in Anthony’s case it happened offscreen. So in season 1 it was actually episode 5.
Great reaction guys! Especially to Colin at the end 👏🤣 I liked it when Rob impersonated Whistledown! “Dearest reader” “Gentle” “Gentle Reader”
The tension keeps ramping up, next episode will be explosive = battle of the Whistledowns
I agree! S3 is more about the emancipation of Pen and owning Lady Whistledown instead of Polins love story
The Francesca Gkare moment I don’t think was malicious in any way. I think it’s just that she’s seeing her mother be very enthusiastic about Colin and Penelope and she is feeling a bit like her mother isn’t very pleased with her match with John. Francesca just wants her mother to be enthusiastic and happy for her own match as well. She knows her mother isn’t feeling the natch she’s made in John. ❤
I never understood why she was glaring like that but this makes so much sense
@@Richie___Rich I now have an add on theory but it might be spoilers if I go into too much detail. She may also be looking and wondering why she isn’t as excited as well.
“Dude he probably would love to do that” about Benedict made me crack up 😂😂
I love Lady Danbury's wardrobe.
Francesca absolutely loves John. I think the scene Rob is talking about when Francesca is looking at Pen, she's jealous. Not at Pen, but how Violet is so openly excited about Colin and Pen but not about her and John.
i checked an hour ago and was like damnnnn nothing yet.... thank you for posting!!!!!!!!!!
Shoutout to our bi king Benedict tho, I was rooting for that since he had chemistry with the painter in season 1
I’m glad you liked our Paper Contraption!! I wish it was a longer scene too. It was such a joy to build something so large out of paper. :)
in the church, the reverend (priest) stands in the pulpit.
The interpretation I felt for Francesca “glaring” at Pen was more like envy at the situation and sadness at her own circumstance. Pen and Colin get to celebrate their engagement put in the open but Violet won’t let John and Francesca announce theirs because she’s worried about upsetting the queen.
I’m glad you liked our Paper Contraption!! I wish it was a longer scene too. It was such a joy to build! :)
Many thanks to Rob, Bryce and Zuff! 🦢 Bille Woodruff directed this episode.
Ohhhh brace yourselves for the battle of the Wistledowns 🤣🤣 Everything will get even more tense, dramatic and straight up messyyyyy!! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm waiting for your reactions to eps 7 as soon as possible, I'm very happy to see your reactions, so please upload it as soon as possible
Pens mother is a realist. Would it be nice to have a love match sure but she knows its better to have security then love.
I loveeee reacting to your videos, especially the bridgerton one's. THIS NOTIFICATION MADE MY DAY❤️
Rob looks so cute with that vest jacket on😂❤️🩹
That really was the worst way for Colin to find out also I do think it would be interesting if the show did confirm Benedict as bi and they explore it in the next season
Most of the coverage says the show runners call him 'sexually fluid' or pansexual.
Concidering that Pen is the narrator of the show thus far, and the Featheringtons were introduced along with the Bridgertons even in the very first scene of the whole show, I think it was to be expected that the Featheringtons would have a large role in the season where Pen is the female lead. I think the season is kinda split in that the first 4 episodes showed more of Colin's pov while these last 4 lean heavily towards Pen. Which one would guess honestly, she IS Lady Whistledown.
Francesca wasnt looking at pen but the reaction her mother had towards Pen and Colin compared to the reaction and energy she has towards her and john sterlings relationship
I don’t know if someone beat me to it, but I’m glad they finally showed a reading of the banns. It’s normal in their day to get married a month after you announce it. The church will announce the banns like the minister did once a week, and make sure there’s no reason they can’t marry. It gives them time to come forward too if they hear about it late. It will go in the paper too, but not everyone can read. If one marries by special license, no banns are needed, but it’s expensive. One might do that to hide an illegitimate child or avoid family rejection. It’s technically not always scandalous, but it could be. There is also the town of Gretna Green, Scotland, which exists right over the border with England. No banns are needed in Scotland, so if you were avoiding family completely and don’t have the money for a license, off to Gretna you go. A Vegas of their time. It even shows up in Downton Abbey, which takes place 90-100 years later. Book wise, this is the early 1820s. Downton takes place from 1911-1928, so far.
Fun fact: the actress playing Prudence Featherington is a nepo baby - her Father is Jim Carter, the head butler on Downton Abbey, and her Mother is actress Imelda Staunton.
Plus she's dating Debling
I see the festive coat is back 👌🏼
Awesome reaction of my favorite Bridgerton episode!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊
Did you guys completely forget about Benedict’s extra curricular activities in season 1? 😅
The next show you guys should watch is heartbreak high
a sink was basically, a large bowl that you poured water in and worked with that alone........ so dirty water right away.... hope you have more easily or thats it now.
“Of course…there’s no tennis.” 💀💀💀 So good.
This is sort of an aside, but how have you guys not done outlander yet? It's 7 seasons, all of which are amazing.
Oh yeah!
28:39 “he goes over and punches her.” 🤣💀
Agree that Colin was a side character to his own season!
Rob is so adorable in his Sgt Pepper shirt. 😆
I feel actually sorry for Prudence. She looks so sad because she never got that much attention from Portia like Pen does now...
Francesca: “ I love him “
Zuff : “ I don’t think she likes him “
"In British sign language" 🤣
Please react to hannah other series.. Who play francesca.. Hannah as corrine in series 'Flowers In The Attic:The Origin' are amazing. And also as cicely and sarah chapman in Enola Holmes 2.
Spot on this season is a Penelope self love story.
*It's just so funny how Cressida was like "i don't want anyone to see me" meanwhile she's literally wearing the brightest pink with the largest bows in it. Bro be fr.*
Ohhh shits about to hit the fan 😂😂
kings guard, if the king dies so does her queendom
I agree so much with all of you guys critiques on this season, specially that even though the show is called Bridgerton and Colin is supposed to be as much of a protagonist as Penelope they have him on the background and he's much more just a love interest than a protagonist, which is a disservice to both the actor and the character
Why can't she stop?!? You have to think about art & identity for women
Yes they put too much in this season we didn’t need and not enough Polin.
I agreed that the 2nd part was more about Lady Whistledown and Penelope's journey then Polin- it was too unbalanced...I wanted to see more of Colin and his struggles and his pursuit of his writing. The book excels I this way....I also feel like the split into two parts made it more unbalanced.
Penelope told Eloise that she's going to tell Colin once she published the column discrediting Cressida. She can't stop at that time because she knew that Cressida would ruin her column with lies and if it was learned later that Penelope was LW no one would believe that the lies wasn't from Penelope
Also, to allow your bully to take your successful business is like someone who hates you take your RUclips Channel that has 5k subscribers and trashing it. You wouldn't want that, but Penelope only stopped because of Eloise and mostly for Colin.
To me, Eloise and Cressida’s relationship ending just furthers my own opinion that Eloise was never a good friend, not to Penelope nor anyone else. We see Cressida try to talk to Eloise about her parents forcing her to marry an elderly man and wanting to get out of it. Eloise preaches feminism and going against society, but the moment a friend comes to her in a truly awful situation she’s all 🤷🏻♀️ about it. She offers no real help, has no sympathy for her, and ignores her during some of the conversations Cressida starts about it. She doesn’t even listen to the reasons why Cressida is claiming to be LW, she just immediately thinks Cressida awful and ends their friendship without any empathy towards her situation. It’s exactly like how she reacted when she learned Pen was LW. and even Cressida mirrors what Pen said to Eloise, that she’s jealous. And she definitely is.
With the redemption they gave Cressida in the first half of the season, I was really sad to see they vilified her here, I was really hoping she’d get to get away from her family by marrying debling but they had him disappear
Well deserved, Cressida was a bully for more than half of the seasons, she deserves some consequences, anyways at least Eloise don’t bully people out of the fun of it.
I was only guessing someone’s bruises on the arms was an abusive husband and assuming it relates to the couple in penelopes whistledown issue in episode 7? Lmk other theories!
i'm fucking up this reel time meal
Polin forever 😍😍😍😍😍😍
I don’t know why they barely have any scenes together… I don’t get it tbh 🤷🏻♀️
I really wished this season was focused on Polin maybe one or 2 sides stories at most to compliment it… sorry to the fans, don’t hate me, I’m sorry I’m disappointed ✌🏼
Zuff is right. This season isn’t about the romance. Colin felt like an afterthought in his own supposed season. Unfortunately with the new showrunner I think that’s what future seasons will also be like. More the drama, less the romance which is extremely disappointing
Recommend you watch Outlander and react!
I’m glad yall do these because lowkey I fell asleep through a few episodes. It’s also fun hearing the commentary!
im convinced the writers lowkey hate Penelope.. everything they needed to write her story was in the book but they took it and twisted it around throughout the show and made a huge mess of it. giving Cressida her sympathetic B-plot DURING PENELOPES SEASON?? Crazy choice to make. It makes it harder for the audience to understand Pen's frustration at Cressida, of all people, taking credit for her work. They also basically copy & pasted Colin's story onto Eloise in S2 for some reason.. even though they KNEW they'd be doing Colin & Pen in S3 which also makes it harder to understand why penelope would continue to lie to Colin despite Eloise already knowing & them literally being engaged. In the book he finds out BEFORE theyre engaged.
One of the biggest problems with this season is that they split it up into two different groups. It didn’t work for me. Instead of a constant story it changed the dynamics of the story. I hope they don’t do that again next season. I went back and watched the whole season from start to finish and it was so much better to watch.
The prince Rob
I feel like Benedict's storyline this season just felt like a way to introduce the fact that he's interested in both men and women cause like its going NOWHERE I don't understand why they just got rid of his love for art and painting
love u guys but you never understand the relationship between penelope's mom and penelope as we, women, do.
Eloise is such a shitty and selfish friend and nobody can convince me otherwise especially after this episode.
Its better than being a bully like Cressida…
@@Nightcore_Revolution Cressida doesn’t pretend to be somebody she’s not. Yes she is a bully but that doesn’t give Eloise any excuse especially if you claimed to be her friend
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13:16 Zuff was sooo right :/
Honestly, they should’ve sent Benedict on a trip to Rome and left all of those useless scenes out of the season lmao
Your homophobia is showing.
@@SubKweenno, her brains is showing. Those scenes were useless, went nowhere and took away from the main couple. Your stupidity is showing.
@SubKween bridgerton Fandom is literally the only Fandom I've seen that has a problem with a male character turning out to be queer. So many other Fandoms I've been apart of would have lost their minds out Benedict, but the bridgerton girls actively hates it. It's just so wild to me.
@@SubKween lmao you are insane and need therapy. Benedict didn’t add ANYTHING to this season, he was just there having sex. I couldn’t care less about his story because there was no real connection with either of his partners. I was more interested in Francesca (who may I add they are making gay in the series and I have no problem with) than Benedict, Francesca had a real plot. So many 3 minute scenes, so many pointless scenes, etc this has nothing to do with being gay. Get help and get out of the internet.
@@SubKween You are absolutely ridiculous if you see homophobia where there is not, seriously get some help. Benedict’s scenes were useless and added nothing to Polin’s story or his own. I couldn’t care less about him this season because there was no real connection with his partners.
It wasn't ink on cowpers mum it was bruises from her husband.
no it was ink to show how she was writing the fake whistle down instead of cressida, that’s why the writing is much better than cressida attempts
1 min ago! Let's goooo
The girl-boss thing where she says she can’t give up Whistledown in super annoying. You’d rather write a gossip column than spend your life with the man of your dreams?
Please get to episode 8 already it's the best episode out of them all....Reactionaries take forever to just get to the last episode! I've already watched all 8 episodes or I should say that I watched at least the Polin scenes because that is the only couple I like from this whole series the rest of the couples are boring and would be way too much for me to watch!
Benedict running away from the throuple made me so sad 😭😭 I hope it's temporary because he's just scared! 🙏
This is a way more interesting arc to me than the obvious main couple we know are getting together 😂
But that might just be my poly heart hoping for some legit representation 😅🤷
I am not liking this one... how is season 4 going to be about with out Pen and Lady Whistledown... I really am finding this one boring... and just to say I didn't like the soft porn of this one...
The guys look so bored.
Part II wasn’t that good. Got so bored after episode 5
Sorry but Elle was being such a cvnt to Cressida. I thought she deserved what Cressida told her.
Cressida isn't a freaking Saint she bullies Penelope every chance and I for one don't feel sorry for Cressida....and I honestly don't know how anyone can feel sorry for her in any freaking way! She's an awful person!
Who is elle?
@@BleedingHeartFlowerCrying RIGHT! Seeing people feel bad for that bully so fast is crazy to me, like how can you hate Eloise but like Cressida…
@@BleedingHeartFlowerCrying yes😒😒😒😒😒