Boy Scout Haversacks
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2020
- I discuss and show two different models of the early Boy Scout haversacks and discuss the relationship between their historical military counterparts.
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In the 60s I had two choices in packs , the BSA Yucca pack , or the Army surpluse ski pack . I still have the later .
Is it the model with the two side pockets? If so I would have chosen it too! The Yucca 574 is so big, overly so for a standard camping or hiking trip IMO but it made since if the troop was going to use the Yucca patrol system. Still though...it required the use of so much gear that was really a bit much like several axes and spades where one of each was probably sufficient. I was always a minimalist though.
@@honorableoutfitters As a young scout , they both worked , as an older with more toys I had to move on to newer gear .
Not exactly my area of focus but I do like to hear about the general evolution of military packs and webbing. Given the militaristic bent on the early Scouts, I find these videos quite interesting. Thank you for making them.
Thank you! I hope you continue to enjoy them, I sincerely appreciate the support.
regarding the first pack you showed with the center clip: I've noticed 18th c. knapsacks tend to have the straps mounted much more "square" than even 19th c. designs. That is, the shoulder straps are about as far apart from each other at the top as at the bottom.
... and this is surprisingly hard on the shoulders!
So I suspect replacing the two d-rings with the one center ring was just a cost-effective way of turning shoulder-slung haversacks into knapsacks for little dudes with small shoulders.
That makes great sense to me! I love mine and hope to recreate them commercially some day. The versatility is so nice when out in the field. 😁
@@honorableoutfitters How wonderful! I was just looking at WPG's 1898 wondering about how hard those changes would be.
I will absolutely wait until your recreations are ready instead.
You may need to wait for awhile, if you would like directions how to convert one of WPG's bags I discuss how in this video: ruclips.net/video/og07obdkSTw/видео.html His gear is top notch. My affiliate link to his is onlinemilitaria.net/shopaff.asp?affid=1633&id=5387
@Mr. Dyers Musings Troops in WWI used the M1910 Haversack which was always used on the back. The bag you have for all intents and purposes is what is called a Mussette Bag or also called the Bread Bag. The Haversack had always been worn on the back depending on the configuration you could carry the shelter half tent poles bed roll and tent rope along with a Ditty bag with toiletries clothing towel and some rations in a expanded mode using a pack tail.
That's great information! Thanks!
@@honorableoutfitters BTW there were alot of modified Spanish American War surplus bags modified for civilian use such as the Boy Scouts.
To use the 2nd model as a shoulder / musette bag, pack one strap away and use the other by itself. Your shoulder and neck will thank you.
You tuber Blackie Thomas has a pretty good video about old time haversacks you might enjoy...he's into that too,
I subscribe to him, he's got great info in his content! With as many different ones that he uses I would call him an aficionado, lol. Thanks for the suggestion friend!
I also do living history ( Mexican American War) as well as Scouts. I recently received the same haversackbut without the straps. The canvas is deteriorated to the point where I can’t use it but will try to copy it and was wondering if you could send me some pictures and demotions of the straps?
Yes, send me an email and I would be happy to or on my Mr. Dyer's musings Facebook page I can get it to you. It appears RUclips does not allow me to post pics in a message reply.
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@@RedScouter13 I am so sorry for not seeing this until now. I happened upon it in preparation for my latest video, Haversack to Knapsack. The width of the straps are 1" by 50" long. check out that video and the detail of it is towards the end. Sorry again and thank you for the support.
@@honorableoutfitters is that 50 inches fully extended or total length with adjustable buckle
@@RedScouter13 total length and it goes through the buckles