Mexico Is Building A $5 BILLION Corridor That Will END The Panama Canal
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Mexico is building a $5 BILLION Corridor That Will End The Panama Canal
Over the span of a century, the Panama Canal has played a pivotal role in facilitating worldwide commerce. The most efficient route for transporting goods from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific has long been through this canal. However, a potential shift is on the horizon, as Mexico gears up to unveil a novel initiative that would rival the Panama Canal. Spanning over 1000km, the construction of this megaproject is already underway and is showing significant process. Join us today as we unveil this controversial megaproject and discuss its implications for global trade.
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0:00 Intro
0:45 Significance of Panama Canal
2:05 Construction of Panama Canal
3:54 Mexico’s Efforts To Rival Panama Canal
5:55 Construction Commences
7:57 Progress of the Project
8:34 What will happen to the Panama Canal?
10:34 Competition for the CIIT
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He failed to mention France began work on the (Panama) canal in 1881, but stopped because of lack of investors' confidence due to engineering problems and a high worker mortality rate.
You forget to mention this: Panama Canal Company's financial troubles in what is regarded as the largest monetary corruption scandal of the 19th century
they also made French the language of Panama
France may have had the foresight to service South Asia. If you recall, Vietnam was originally called French Indo-China. Whereas the British Empire, with ties to India etc 'owned' the Suez Canal. But Teddy Roosevelt felt that it was a far more important investment for the US Navy to serve two coasts. Also note that ALL Navy and virtually every other ships keeps their width to utilize the Panama Canal.
The high worker mortality was largely due to malaria, which shouldn’t be a major issue now. And there have been significant improvements in equipment and logistical abilities. But I still think an estimate of $5 billion is a serious low-ball.
it was not built in 1881, we inherited it and rebuild it
No it will not end the canal. The rail line will haul containerized cargo and large bulk carriers will still use the canal. Clickbait title is inaccurate.
That depends on how low the water gets in the canal.
Good thing we have you here to help our poor little child brains who can't understand container cargo, because total dumbasses click on the title and gulp it down, without you to save us.
@@smshapi But the end, if there is one, will be due to the canal, not the Mexican railroad.
Talk to a ship captain. The Panama canal is so poorly run, shipping companies want alternatives. Not to mention the 24k ships cannot approach. Putting a large ship port on each side is something Panama cannot do.
@@smshapi The canal has water, but not a sufficient supply for the current usage rate. Taking containerized cargo by an alternative like this can take much of the pressure off the Canal so that the available fresh water is not depleted so quickly.
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A couple of issues to overcome if replacing the Panama canal. 1) One ship carries up to 15,000 containers and one train only carries up to 120 containers, so you would have to have 125 train loads to fill a ship. 2) Load and unload time. It would take a lot of time to unload the ship on one side of Mexico and then load it back up on the other side. Not to mention the wait time for 125 trains to get there and load/unload their containers.
The main objective for the corridor will not be logistics , there will be built 10 mayor industrial parks along the railway, so raw material will arrive one side and finished goods will output in the other. Also Al the agro-industry will have a faster way to exit both sides. don’t know why this video didn’t mention it .
Not to lessen your very valid points, using TEUs (Twenty Foot Equivalent), New Panamax vessels are ~13,000 TEUs. A typical 1.5 mile long train, using typical 5 unit drawbar 40' well cars double stacked, and subtracting 2 locomotive lengths, is ~580 TEU. Add 1.5 trains as a buffer, and 24 trains just to replace one vessel. Still a LOT.
@@robbfisher2876 you are right
Ships leaving Europe or the East coast of North America could leave with containers destined for different places on the west coast of the Americas or Asia. Those cargoes could be sorted in Mexico. Not having to wait for full loads for shipment allows shipping companies reduce storage at either end of the route creating savings. Also, completion would force Panama to reduce its rates.
And don’t forget about the cartels who will still everything!
Mexico had a rail corridor and ports built and in use before the Panama Canal was built; however, circumstances over the years never allowed it to be developed and it fell into disuse. Glad to see Mexico rebuilding / expanding the railroad and ports. New infrastructure should help Mexico develop new industrial zones and support job growth.
PS - Maybe it’s my imagination but wasn’t this video already posted without a robot voice?
As the saying goes - "It is good to have more than one string in your bow." Redundancy is good insurance.
I have no idea why the robo content maker says the plan is insane. If climate change makes the Panama canal useless, then I think that this plan will work. The other plan that will work if the Northwest passage becomes navigable because of climate change, then you can have a direct route to Asia from Europe.
@@JB-yb4wn Climate Change is a fraud 💯
@@JB-yb4wn Oh no. Not the climate change hoax? Lol Give it a few years. The Earth goes through cycles and everything will be ok
Mexico would never be able to move freight over land more than the canal does
Needing to unload a ship onto a freight train and then reload another ship on the other side is hardly as convenient as one ship sailing through a canal. If the Panama canal were to become unusable why not just build or improve the railway from Panama city to Colon. It's a fraction of the distance as the Mexican route.
I've been down to Panama, driven from one end to the other & also cruised through it! Your comments
are 'spot on' & I don't feel that Mexico will have enough passengers or cargo, to make the CIIT profitable!
If the goods are going to the mid west and East coast just put them on a railroad in the North West. The time delay and cost off loading and then reloading would probably make it less expensive to do this. Plus the goods will get there faster. Millions of dollars of goods sitting on a ship is costing someone money.
Put hundreds factory parks around that area connections Asia usa Europe south America shipping
Not enough space for the infrastructure required.
You have linear view of the problem because you favor the Panamá Canal. A linear viaduct. The CIIT, in contrast, offers a two-dimensional net of viaducts. All you need to do is add lines at key points that will move cargo along North-South routes. Especially Northbound. That is, toward the United States of America. No need to go from coast to coast. Instead go from a coast to a waypoint toward either America. This idea underscores the versatility of railroads. You can poo-hooh my idea. But time will tell. Someone with the vision and the means will implement it. You heard it here first. Oh, and if you think it is not feasible because of political friction, you are underestimating the power of capitalism.
My french great great grandfather was the engineer and builder of the panama and suez canals. Ferdinand de lesseps
Yes, and the French contribution was not mentioned in the video.
Ferdinand de lesseps design was significantly redesigned once the U.S. decided to build the canal. He did not build it.
My Grandfather from USA helped to dig the Panama Canal after France failed terribly. So many of my grandfathers co workers died and got permanent injuries yet they continued and after re-designing it they were successful. Why President Carter gave it away I’ll never know. My grandfather felt that was an unforgivable mistake. Carter didn’t get re-elected thank God.
@@lloydbarnes7847 There's something that worries me about your assumption that a country can go to another country, shed a lot of blood, sweat and tears and then claim that the other country partly belongs to it.
we owned the Panama Canal which we built and paid for with billions of dollars and thousands of lives. We didn’t own Panama.
Magical thinking, considering the added cost of unloading ships, loading trains, unloading trains and reloading ships and then considering the cost of having empty ships waiting to be loaded, on either side. This will require a whole new concept in ship and train scheduling, to minimize deadhead time for trains and ships. Train security across the breadth of the Mexico train passage will also be a significant expense.
And Mexico will need to build out VERY expensive ports, at both ends of the rail line, fully capable of and equipped to move loads from ships to rail and vice versa. That will be somewhat easier at the Pacific end as the coastline is shorter and the water deeper than on the Gulf side. I find it ironic that AMLO, who has always presented himself as a proud socialist, would green-light this project as it will run through a substantial amount of virgin rainforest, AND it will displace and disrupt life for numerous indigenous groups and wildlife habitat.
What are you trying to do,contradict the click baity vid title?
And shipping companies will need extra ships or contract out to another ship. Yeah, the title is very click baity. I thought this was an actual canal, not a railway.
@@jamesfarrell7465 the ports have already been built, the port of Coatzacoalcos in Veracruz is one of the largest and operating for about 500 years. The port in Salina Cruz is newer and was heavily expanded in the last 2 decades. Nothing to do with the new president as the video states. The train tracks are already there too, just need to be expanded. You are probably confused, thinking in the Maya train.
This already happens daily in the USA, see the I-10 and the port of LA and Texas.
Wonder how long it will be before the Cartels start hijacking loads.
Day 1
@@alanbiancardi2531yes, they will probably be running it.
You mean CIA FBI AND DEA CARTELS??
@@fernieboy6195 no like the Somali pirates that target shipping lanes. Seems to me that creating a dedicated path for shipping is going to lead to that. Unless you think our government agencies are the ones masquerading as Somali pirates. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if you believed that Antifa stormed the Capitol as well.
1 day!!
Container ships today spend less than a day in port to load and unload it's cargo. The 2 days loading and transferring cargo will save about a week over going through the Panama Canal and offer an alternate route. Right now, ships wait days to go through the locks. I am surprised it has not been done by now.
You need twice as many ships as before. Instead of 1 ship making a complete trip, you need a ship for the Pacific and a ship for the Atlantic sides of Mexico. And then the time to unload, transfer to trains/trucks, and then reload onto a 2nd ship.
You forgot about the amount of time to transport the cargo across Mexico and sorting time before reloading..
@@twostate7822 You don't need twice as many ships! Those ships take half the time to make their routes!
Just imagine you can have 100-car train with 2 containers stacked per car. That's just 200 containers. The train will be over 2 kilometers long. You would need at very least 3-km long block sections. At very least you can make 20 minutes headways, but likely closer to 30 minutes. At 20 minutes that would be 600 containers per hour. Or just 10800 containers in 18 hour span. Rest 6 hours for maintenance. That's mere nothing. Just 4 small container ships.
Your surprised really? You know what happens during this whole process right? Cartles are going to extort construction projects like the do now, leading to a lack of investment. Then if it does get built they are going to hold ships hostage like african pirates due cause there is a ton of money in it. Really not that hard to figure out. As a Panamanian myself, Panama was part of Columbia before the Canal and was not a secure area. No one wanted to invest in that, US takes a 100 year lease with protection rights people invest. No protection in old Mexico to many cartels and the Gov can or will not control them.
Meanwhile back in the USA we have been unable to build a petroleum refinery🤔
Same in Canada. But both are by design
Spot on.
Keep voting Democratic and a “refinery” will be a history term not seen in years
@@dougsteele5104 Vote republican and we won't have a country.
@@randy9573yes, Canada traded resource extraction for real estate speculation. Every industry that’s been profitable has been scuttled by regulations.
So factually wrong on many levels: Charles I, King of Spain devised the construction of a transoceanic canal 4 centuries earlier. However, due to engineering it was a group of French investors who actually started the construction since the 1880s but due to financial difficulties and the death of some 20,000 workers they had to stop the construction. The US government and engineers used what the French left already built along with the engineering design and route to continue the construction. The major US contribution (and the reason why they literally took Panama) was their ability to erradicate malaria by 1906.
Edit: it was the yellow fever, not Malaria. Apologies but after these 120 years memory fails me sometimes 😜
Correct, except that it was the eradication of yellow fever that was the main accomplishment. Malaria was greatly reduced, but not "eradicated."
I'm for anything that improves Mexico from within. The more prosperous the country becomes, the less likely they will want to immigrate to the US.
many of those migrants now coming to the US are from other countries, not just Mexico. Check out these numbers in Aug 2022:
Mexico 60,772
Venezuela 25,361
Cuba 19,060
Honduras 16,219
Guatemala 15,681
Colombia 13,497
Nicaragua 11,749
Peru 7,782
El Salvador 6,675
Haiti 6,551
Other 6,258
Brazil 5,747
Ecuador 3,681
Russia 1,645
India 1,597
Turkey 1,172
China 375
Romania 215
@@rr7firefly This is all southern border crossings? Crazy. November can’t come soon enough. I’m pro legal immigrant.
. . .and your empire 🇺🇸👹 should leave us alone.
If you only knew every shananigans they are causing. . . .you would eventually support "migrations" .
@drmountainmen. Most people, that come now into
The United States, are from
Venezuela, Colombia, central
America, south America, and
Other parts of the World, not
Mexico. Right now México,
Is traing about 3,000 contruc-
Tion workers, every six weeks,
Just to work on the various
Projects, that persident Hamlo, has. There's plenty
Of jobs in México.
In the USA, $5bn is less than the new bridge over the Detroit River. I think you got the amount wrong
.. More Like .. 5-Trillion-$ by the time the canal is finished ..
You are factoring in the bureaucracy.
The chinese could do it
China is working with Mexico to do this and building a big infrastructure called A smart city digital currency and tracking their every move also to merge Mexico, Canada and China with the USA 🇺🇸 get ready to Hand our country over and of course our freedom
@wealthintruth6227 Then why didn't the Chinese finish the canal they financially backed in Nicaragua?
They have an abundance of cheap labor.
this is pure clickbait In the thumbnail the author never mentions this is a rail link and implys its a canal I think no thumb
Thank you, this is very informative. I especially enjoy the old photos (1914) of constructing the PC. In retrospect, that was a very interesting time for global events.
The cost will be over $500 Billion. $5 Billion is nothing today.
Can I borrow a million
To be paid for by the drug cartel.
construction workers in mexico makes on average $900 usd a month, they might have enough with 5 billion🤷♂
As long as the project is controlled by a liberal government, the costs are completely unknown and the prospect of it being completed is nil. Just like a California high-speed railway.
It is three lines. I think 5 billion will cover it.
it wont hurt the Panama canal at all; if done right it will make for more efficient trade as ships can stay on their side of the continent and drop containers off while moving up the coast or to the other side of the ocean they are on..
Great Video! Very Informative!👍
This train corridor is no rival for the Panama canal. Best scenario is that new factories will be built along the Tehuantepec corridor, so they will have access to both the atlantic and pacific oceans. This will be very good for the economy of Mexico.
Well, the problem with the Panama Canal is climate change; the water level of the canal it’s at it’s lowest level due to the drought, so crossing the canal will take more days, because they have to limit its access of ships, and that will increase the coast of the goods to the consumers.
Ya great ..however youve not stopped the cartals
And they would certainly
Get envolved..
The cartels may well see such a proposal as a way to invest in the future. After all, they have considerable resources. This would not be the first time that criminal organizations put their resources into legitimate business. Money laundering ? Maybe, but it works.
@@brianfraser2495 its the same as organized crime in the USA.
They will be the financers and make money off it if it happens which I'll believe when I see it. This is not a new idea the same rumor was floating around about 10 years ago.
Carole, you are very naive.
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If they say 5b, can u imagine what the cost would actually be?
Exactly my first thought It would cost close to that amount to build a 4 lane highway that distance. Their estimate is way to low by a long shot.
5B x 10-15.
Maybe the difference is labor cost? If YS company building it, yes way to low, any other company may be correct and would be on time and not exceed budget.
This is Mexico with Mexican workers, and the Cartels will make sure to have their investment back.
You are used to paying 100x the cost, but you are just a country, not the world!
When they hit $250 billion, they'll run out of money and ask the U.S. to pay for it.
I am happy for Mexico. This will bring them prosperity. Even more important, the CIIT will lessen the load for the Panama Canal. There is simply too much traffic. We need to find an alternative. I wonder if a MAGLEV train, such as the ones using in Japan, could be an option?
This certainly would get a lot of use right now with the Panama Canal traffic being restricted because of the lack of water to raise and lower the locks. However, the canal allows one ship to load at its starting port, travel across the ocean and unload at its destination, while the Mexico option will require unloading the cargo from one ship, taking it across Mexico and loading it onto a different ship on the other side of the country. IDK the economics on this, but I would think that the additional unloading / loading would add cost to the shipping process. But right now, this would be extremely useful.
Plus paying the cartels to be able to get the ships unloaded and loaded the cartels control most of Mexico and how many drugs will they be loading onto the ships that will give them an easier way to get them into the United States
unfortunately, the current capacity of the train is only 400 passengers per day, and no cargo. The passenger trains have had their fair share of problems, including one derailing. It is unclear if it will ever be sturdy enough for cargo.
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The time to offload the cargo and reload at the other end needs to be factored in. Also at least two ports and the necessary infrastructure will need to be built also.
Great ideas here to create new job growth all along the entire length of the rail line. New townships could emerge as a result of new rail depots. Tourism from other countries would increase as well.bringing in more monies 🚝🚅🚄🚂🚂🚆✈🛬🛫⛽🚦🚥🏙🌃🌌
It's built and almost ready, this is 10 yr old news
It will be interesting to see how well a rail system could compete. When some of the container ships can hold over 10,000 containers (the largest is currently 22,000 twenty foot containers, or ~11,000 forty foot containers), the added costs of unloading that many and then reloading them (which takes days, infrastructure and manpower on both ends) seems prohibitive.
The container rail cars are over 60 feet long. But for simple math, let's say each is 52.8 feet long. That corresponds to 100 rail cars per mile (100 * 52.8 = 5280). If each car stacks 2 forty foot containers, that's 200 containers per mile. That means it would take 50 miles of rail cars to match the load on one large container ship. Locomotives rarely pull more than 2 miles of cars, so that corresponds to 25 train loads/day, with each being over 2 miles long.
I just don't see that as being realistic. Depending on Panama's fee structure, using rail might only make sense for smaller ships, and ships containing bulk, solid material (corn, wheat, coal, ore, etc)
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#2) The video is SHORTER than the time stamp you posted. Clicking on your time stamp simply terminates the video.
And Mexico just received three or four "40 year" old locomotive engines from the EU. Yes!!! forty year old engines!!!!.....
@@albertomanuelcheung7103 That is actually not a negative. For this multi billion dollar investment, the cost of the locomotives is 'chump change', a fraction of one percent of the cost. Plus, it's an item that can easily be replaced (just roll it off the tracks and roll a new one on). If the starting budget demands compromise, this is a good choice. Once the business proves itself to be viable, they can decide what level of more advanced propulsion they want to invest in. They could just buy modern locomotives, or they could 'go big' by tailoring the propulsion system specifically to that set of tracks, grade and expected loads.
@@gregparrott it might sound a great project with high hopes, but at the of the day, time will tell and reality sets in.
Very interesting and informative. ⭐
This video sounds like an ad for Mexico --- it doesn't show the cost of moving freight OFF one ship and onto ANOTHER ship. It also doesn't talk about Mexico's long history of NOT being able to protect businesses from illegal activities (i.e. stealing the freight)
What happened to talking about the engineering challenges and financing challenges?
$5 billion is rather low for a project of this scale. Perhaps they meant $50 billion.
Back in the 70's it cost one million dollars per mile to build a highway. It cost's a lot more than that to dig a ditch that big that distance I'm sure.
I'm sure. There is no way they can do it for that little. Oh, and don't forget, this is one of THE most corrupt nations on earth. No f-g way will money not be stolen from the project by someone working for the local drug lords. Even former president Zedillo was in the drug lords' pockets.
$500 billion
This is Mexico with Mexican workers, and the Cartels will make sure to have their investment back.
You are used to paying 100x the cost, but you are just a country, not the world!
Put the money in my bank for me!
For the purpose of contingency, it is worth maintaining more than one major way to cross central America.
México is not Central America, nimrod.
@@xoazaja653 That's the pettiest comment I've ever read on a non-Chan website. Truly bottom-tier trolling. And that's coming from a sewer troll. Congratulations, I guess.
Last summer a friend who was living in Yucatan was telling me about a canal being built on a similar route and financed by China. He said that there was lots of articles in local media but I couldn’t find anything about it online. Then all of a sudden his communications to me stopped and I have never heard another word.
The problem with the Panama Canal is twofold: its older canals can only accommodate smaller ships, so either the loads have to be transported from massive ships to smaller ones and then back. Also, as the video mentioned a lot of water is needed for all three canal passages, and it may not always be available. This railway is a smart investment by Mexico.
The Panama has been widened by a lot much larger now than before. Find the story on the net and watch it.
@@ohwell2790 widening the canal increases the water requirements
@@SuprousOxide Am I missing something here? There is a ocean on both sides of the canal. How could it run out of water?
@@jimmyjames7174 Water flows downhill. It's not needed where the canal approaches the oceans, but rather at the locks on the higher elevations. The supply of water for the locks is limited by the rainfall in the high-elevation areas. Every time a boat is raised or lowered in a lock, you are using a great deal of water. Recycling efforts can only accomplish so much.
@@jimmyjames7174 the area is not flat, different water levels. Hence why there are many levees on the Panama Canal. River Runs through a valley and mountainous terrain area.
HALF A BILLION TONS of goods every year! An unimaginable amount
Agree, thats a lot goods going through the Canal. Would be even more if had the Capacity. Been on Cruise Ships doing Panama Canal twice in last 18months, going again in 2 weeks and in Oct again.
Surely it must be a chore and time consuming to unload ship containers onto trains, then when it reaches the other ocean to load them all back on another ship again?
Triple handling the cargo is not cost efficient.
I'm sure, if this ever gets completed, it will help ease the backups at the Panama Canal but I don't see it replacing it. Load/unload adds time, it's faster than waiting 30 days to traverse the Canal so a decent option when the Canal gets backed up. To replace the Canal would require another canal, which I don't see happening this century. It would be easier to just improve the existing canal.
Literally half this video was about the panama
Build a train big enough just to carry the whole ship to the other side 😂😂😂😂or start putting wheels on ships and a V10000000 engine to drive it to other side 😂😂😂. Don't do drugs kids
That was in an editorial cartoon before they built the Panama canal
I suspect the current ships would not survive out of water laden but they do survive big waves so I could be wrong.
If you play "Supreme Commander" the Cybran faction destroyer warships extend legs and walk on land, Sure, it's insane, but is not impossible either. 😹
@@LoneTiger 👍🏽🤣🤣
You might need to old school German's for that stuff - but me thinks they got the chop a few decades back - but they have legacy relationships with Mexico and I think that is a brilliant idea - but ships are super huge and might just break
Great insight to reopen this corridor in Mexico
(I've been through the entire Panama Canal by ship & also driven from one end to the other! My father was also
stationed there (Ft. Clayton) for 30 months, during WWII!) I believe, before the Canal was built, a railway existed to
take ship passengers the 48 miles, from one ship to another, waiting at the other end! This transfer only took some
three hours while the Mexican corridor railway will take 8 hours & the loading & unloading of cargo, will take much longer!
this is funny, so they have to unload thousands of containers onto rail cars then reload them at the other end...that sounds very counter productive.
It's not done anymore, but in the US that is how Land/Sea started. Loads went east, and empties moved west. Tiny 30' containers were used. It worked, and then others got involved, and everything got bigger.
Since the waters of Panama may not come back, this is a workable idea.
What is actually needed are three to four sets of canals that could handle all of the shipping without any ship needing to wait. Instead of the canal being owned & operated by one country, it needs to be an international project. One would think the United Nations would be doing something along this need.
sounds wonderful............if you like higher prices for shipping products which will raise the price of the products
WELL, THE LOW WATER IN THE PANAMA CANEL CAUSES THIS, IT WILL JUST RAISE THE COST OF GOODS WHICH YOU PURCHASE AT WALMART, IN THE FUTURE
@@thomasboese3793 The water will come back. The climate hoax has gotten you
@@domcizek Good thing I do not shop at Walmart
What, you aren't even going to mention the French?? Perhaps you don't know. The first people to attempt the Panama canal were the French, in 1881. However, Yellow Fever, Malaria, and Dengue cost them 20,000 lives. So, they stopped. The U.S. only stepped in when the French gave it up - and with a different plan (now based on locks, the creation of Lake Gatun, and less need for digging very deep trenches.
once again, the french gave up
The original plan was to dig to sea level. That's what should be done now. Use current tech to finish the dig and make it a true sail through passage.
You must be proud of that?
You must be proud of the French infringing upon the real AMERICANS.
You must be proud of the English causing massacres in AMERICA.
It's because the French didn't have Gin & Tonic!
Not mentioned in the article is the third lane build along side the existing canal.
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The Panama Canal expansion project (Spanish: ampliación del Canal de Panamá), also called the Third Set of Locks Project, doubled the capacity of the Panama Canal by adding a new traffic lane, enabling more ships to transit the waterway, and increasing the width and depth of the lanes and locks, allowing larger ships to pass. The new ships, called New Panamax, are about one and a half times the previous Panamax size and can carry over twice as much cargo. The expanded canal began commercial operation on 26 June 2016.
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Imagine only the larger ships going through the Panama Canal and the CIIT handling smaller ones with even smaller, more flexible ships waiting on the other side to go to fewer ports
Don't hold your breath on the Northwest Passage route.
We just recorded the greatest amount of arctic sea ice for October in the past twenty years.
But I thought it was all melting away?
@@GunnyMac360 LOL apparently that was a lie.
@@scotmandel6699 now it's called cLiMaTe ChAnGe
Awesome, is about time the World as a whole have come to an alternative viable for International Commerce in this part of the globe. I praise the current government of Mexico for this and other extraordinary ideas.
What would be smart is if Mexico also improved its railways northward from the CIS to the US. Then, ships offloading cargo on the Atlantic side could directly railroad their stuff to the western US, and those ships offloading on the Pacific side could likewise ship their goods by rail to the central and eastern US.
A lock could be considered as identical to a dry-dock.
Dry-docks have their water pumped out of them, so why can't Panama install pumps to pump the locks dry, into holding tanks, and then allowed to drain back into the lock for the next ship?
They do. That's how locks work!
@@clark4797
Normally locks just let the water drain out, with no collection.
They need a scheme to reuse water in the Panama canal instead of letting it go to waste
I believe it is reused. It is pumped back to the lake
Something very interesting was mentioned here, that most people may have missed. During the construction of the Panama canal starting in 1902, some 6,000 workers lives were lost due to very harsh working conditions, mostly the extreme heat of over 40 degrees centigrade. So it makes it quite interesting that today in the 21 century, people are panicking over global warming and climate change, because the heat sometimes exceed 35 degrees centigrade or get closer to 40 degrees centigrade. And as far as we know, there was no such thing as global warming in the early 19 hundreds! Makes you wonder if we're exposed to gaslighting
IIRC, the current PC is in great need for a complete overhaul as it can barely handle the mega-vessels, etc… b/c the PC was funded and maintained by the USofA, prior to it being released to the govt of Panama, its
kinda like giving a heritage Ferrari to a broke relative - they can’t afford the required operating expenses and maintenance needed to make it a viable vehicle option… MX being part of nafta and being one place that will likely benefit from the trend of moving production out of China, having modern Pacific to Atlantic access, sized to handle any of our navel vessels, nearby to the USofA centers of power, in a nation that like Canada, is so tightly coupled w/ the USofA, it’s the best of all options
Good. Perhaps it will stop these caravans as well.
Why can't sea water be pumped uphill to the upper locks? I imagine that this idea has been rejected due to it requiring far too much energy cost. Anyone?
Yah. And Big oil insists upon monopoly over energy required to transfer the water. Imagine the energy achieved from TIDAL POWER transfer DOWN..Necessity will spawn maternity of new technology. This can be ONE way to mitigate sea level rise.
What is so insane about México's plan? Did you know that one of the original plans to build a waterway passage through México was also thought of? THAT was far more insane. Honestly, the current plan is far better and great economic plan.
It was far easier and cheaper for the US to cause a revolution, separate Panama from Colombia, help Panama remain independent in exchange for ownership rights of the canal.
@lone: agreed. Some people just don’t see the big picture. The US to Columbia, “we’re here to help. Our military? Oh, don’t worry about them.”
Great Idea!!!
The northwest passage will never be a viable route. the Government of Canada won't allow it. If they did, they will toll it. That's because there will be an enormous cost to provide search and rescue services. It is already happening to the small number of ships that test the passage. They always get stranded and need rescue.
Wouldn't a ship hitting an iceberg be a big risk as well?
@@ILGuy2012 A rule the Canadian gov't will make is that all ships must have icebreaker hulls
teleport things
I've always thought this was a good idea, since at least the mid 1970s when I got my first global atlas - a railway yes, but also a waterway eventually. Along with an intercoastal waterway running up Mexico's eastern coast, it would provide Mexico with its own version of a ersatz Mississippi river for the Eastern periphery of Mexico.
I think growing trade means that this location will immediately benefit containerized cargo which has minimal-break-in bulk costs. Bulk commodities will still use Panama's canal. I venture to guess by the end of the 21st century, Costa Rica will have a similar east-west railroad, and Nicaragua might have both a railroad and a canal.
Around the horn was very dangerous
Been through the Panama Canal aboard USS OKINAWA in '88. Its beautiful
The Romans moved supplies and small ships across an ismus 2000 years ago at Corinth in Greece.
Yes, and? Are you suggesting that the building of the Corinth Canal wasn't worthwhile?
why are you showing WWII German soldiers running at 5:28 of the video?
Cause it's funny.
So, it's a railroad across Mexico, not a canal. Doesn't sound like it would help that much. Note: I didn't say that it wouldn't help, just that it wouldn't help that much.
Won't they have to unload all the Cargo Carriers off the Super Sized Ships, then Transport it all. Then Re-Load all those Cargo carriers back on to the correct Ship, without damaging or breaking things ?? Humm, I wonder how well that will work ??
The same way it works between California and New York or Houston and Chicago.
@@danielebrparish4271
They aren’t reloaded back onto a ship. They’re offloaded from a ship onto trains. Moved inland and trucked to the destination
The concept of unloading containers from ship to train when you think of it is rather understated. These ships carry thousands of containers, as I think there is one rail car for one container, that would mean trains loads would be thousands of cars long.!!!
@@malcolmlaxton-blinkhorn5847 2 cans per rail car. Typical 125 car train 250 cans
@@MrHunt916 : that’s not what the video implies.
So, unload cargoes at one end and another ship load them at the opposite end? How's it work?
Seems like a lot of extra work. 😕
This is next world level 🤩
I heard the same story about using railways (which already exist) instead of the suez canal.. not realistic, even for container ships. Those large container ships carrying thousands of containers would need to be unloaded, then the containers need to be loaded on the train, then unloaded, then reloaded on to another ship on the other side. This is a lot more complex and time consuming than crossing the canal. In fact, some ships go around Africa if they are asked to unload only a few containers and then reload them after they cross the Suez canal (because they are too high or too heavy). Imagine asking them to unload ALL their containers and reload them onto a DIFFERENT ship a few hours or days later as proposed here. Not gonna happen. They will just start the trip with smaller ships or less containers instead, i.e., panamamax standard will be downgraded, or go around south america.
How does a canal connected to two oceans run out of water especially when sea levels are rising due to global warming??
In theory, they could drain all the water out of the canal into the oceans and the only way the restore it is lots of rain. The main reservoir for the Panama Canal is a man made lake, not the oceans. Ocean level has nothing to do with it, other than providing the rain.
If they were to dig a channel deep enough to maintain sea level from east to west, the canal would be self-sufficient. This is not the case and the ships are elevated with locks to allow them to transit over the land. The locks that raise and lower the vessels are fed by inland water. The overuse of this resource is the limitation to the current system. If inland water cannot be replenished, the locks cannot be used.
Same reason former president Obama bought huge breach front properties in both Martha's Vineyard and Hawaii.
He doesn't really believe in in global warming or he would be concerned they would be overtaken by sea water, but he does like the climate change scam that provide vast sums of cash for Leftist Karens
@@bflat1894 That would be a significant dig, there is a 26m elevation at the lake in the middle
GLOBAL WARMING NOOOOOOOOO. Send Al Gore your money to be saved. lmfao
Panama needs to install another line beside older canal
They did.
Mexico has a plan Auto sufficient. Every country should follow Mexico Model.
I remember hearing about a plan during the Cold War, when I was in the Army. That if a global conflict where (Soviet conventional attack on NATO) to cook off, forces would move into Nicaragua and use nuclear explosives to connect the Pacific with the Atlantic. I never saw any documents (I did not have that level of security clearance) to support it, and the Cold War ended in 1992. But I heard that rumor at almost every unit I was attached to. Nicaragua was the first place a canal was proposed before Panama was decided on. There where all kinds of "crazy" ideas during the cold war.
It is also coming at a time of re-shoring manufacturing globally. I wonder how that is going to play out.
Build a much wider and two direction canal at the Darian Gap starting from the middle outward so the internal area could be drained and big machinery could do the digging and ground preparation without the Caribbean or the Pacific causing problems. Make the canal an international transit nation with resources outside of the canals themselves so people on both side of the canal could benefit.
The Darian Gap is not realistic. There's a mountain range in the middle that is 1500 to 3200 feet high. The canal zone is much lower--The highest point of the Panama Canal is just 85 feet above sea level. Widening the channel and locks would be more realistic.
@@GeographRicknot to mention their point about turning it into its own “international nation.” There’s a zero percent chance Panama just gives up some of its land when it’s got a lock on the canal trade already…
@@GeographRick that makes sense
It's Darien.
@@GeographRick "The highest point of the Panama Canal is just 85 feet above sea level. " Atlantic or Pacific?
Another great project to add to several great projects already finished. We want to make the trip to Cancun to ride El Tren Maya.
This smells like a white elephant. A canal can transport huge quantities of cargo without the need to unload the ship, load many trains, then reload another ship on the other side. The reason that the rail line failed in the first place has not changed. The government intervention against a private company also sounds dubious and would likely result in reduced corporate confidence in major projects in Mexico.
There is a major drought causing Panama canal to lower the number of ship transits. Also unloading cargo in the past was much different than unloading cargo containers via cranes today. Depending on rainfall in Panama, this has a chance.
It's nothing but a drug running route.
Mexico & confidence are 2 words that do not go together.
Why don't they make it one way, with the Panama canal doing the same. It would ease congestion and tensions between the 2 Nations.
If it's one way, what do you do with all the empty ships after they unload on one side? And how do you get ships to pick up on the other side. Did they travel empty from their last port?
Do the trains travel back empty after they unload?
Far too inefficient to be one way. You don't want empty ships or trains traveling around.
@@SuprousOxide You have a simple roundabout system. One canal already exists and needs upgrading. The other wants to have as minimal Environmental impact as possible. Fairly close and no ship accidents!
@@chrischris8550 Roundabout where? If the railroad is going one way from pacific to the Gulf, where do the empty ships in the pacific go? Where do the empty ships in the gulf come from? What happens to the empty trains at the gulf port?
We really a sea level Panama Canal and yes it will cost billions !!! I would suggest if going build another canal in make it the narrowest land in Mexico such as Coatzacoalcos or Minatitlan on the north and Salina Cruz on the south.
That route may not be suitable. Too many obstacles???
nicaragua wants to build a canal for a long time....
the use of containers makes far more useable
fuck this channel, guy just likes to hear himself talk.
Just imagine dozens of ships carrying hundreds of containers waiting to be unloaded from the ships into awaiting trains (and you need lots of trains) to cross Mexico to the opposite coast which is three times the width of the Isthmus of Panama, that is only 63 km to cross even by train. As the containers cross to the other coast of Mexico, they have to be loaded back from the arriving trains into the waiting ships to continue the journey up North. The project sounds great, but the logistic would be a total nightmare. Not even mentioning what can happen to those containers in transit... another nightmare to custom agents up North.
@@albertomanuelcheung7103 sound so not efficient, not at all. cannot beat a canal, if the land is level throughout nothing beats a canal.
@@carlosrivas1629 Unlevel land is the problem with the current Panama Canal design and the reason it is running out of water to run the locks. What would happen if you built a set of canals that didn't need locks? If the two oceans are not equal in height, have a set of locks in the center and you will never run out of water.
@@thomasboese3793 no dig the canal to be one level, we have better tech then when they tried to before, they can be a canal that doesnt need locks.
Viva Mexico !❤❤❤❤❤
This would be a great way to stabilize Mexico's economy and provide jobs. This would also reduce illegal border crossings into the US and hopefully reduce illegal immigration.
Hope, springs eternal.
Not mentioned is how the huge quantity of containers can be transferred from ships to rail cars on the Pacific side and then transferred from rail cars to ships on the Atlantic side. Have I missed something?
That is done here in the United States today.
@@mt3311 I assume it is done, but what is the cost?
yep its gonna be faster,,,,and ships will be unloaded and reloaded just as they were when they first were loaded.. cots for sure,,,but time savings also
@@bill45colt After canal gets a little more water, I don't see this as a practical alternative. It must take several days just to load the containers.
@@warringtonfaust1088 i dont know a thing about shipping nor the accounting and scheduling of containers,,,
U have to realize that this was attempted before and it failed. Ships still want to use the Panama canal more that this railway transfer as it is more tedious. However due to desperation, there will be some ships that may opt using this alternative... that is if the cost is lower than the fuel and operating expense of going around the tip of South America as the only other option so far.
it failed only when the canal was opened and the rail's business dried up.
The problem is that you either need rail that goes up to the USA, or another barge on the other side. The rail may be quick, but add the unload on one side, and reload on the other side to the time.
It's a very economically feasible idea, glad it's out there, and available for use.
Nonsense. The rail line will only carry 50% of what the canal does.
It's meant to augment, and not meant to replace the Panama Canal.
Cost of unloading and reloading on a 2nd ship wipes out any savings .
I initially thought it was a canal they were constructing. It costs time and money to unload freight on to a train and only to load it back on to a mother ship. This is not a cost effective option.
Awesome...
i think the us goverment should widen the rio grande river to 1 mile across and go from the pacific to the gulf...
And as the train full of cargo moves across the country every criminal will be looting it. In other words full at the start, empty at the end.
Actually No looting will occur. The Cartels will OWN, Operate & Protect the entire business
Good luck looting a moving train going between very secure terminals at both ends. Stopping even one train of such a major national resource, or taking over a terminal, would bring military intervention. You don't understand the amount of time, men, trucks, and logistics it would take to loot even 1 train with 300 containers, much less continuously do so. Even big cartels couldn't take the hit of hundreds of their men at a time being taken out by helicopter gunships or artillery.
Might there be payoffs, kickbacks, nepotism in hiring, government corruption and stuff like that? Sure. Cost of doing business in some places. But even that, I wouldn't count on it being material to the results, if they are really nationalizing this operation to bolster the country's economy.
@@EfficientRVer look at California they are looting moving and stopped trains every day.
Thailand is currently studying the possibility of constructing a 'Land Bridge' that would connect the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea. This proposed alternative to Singapore and the Malacca Strait's trans-oceanic trade routes has the potential to be a significant impact to Singapore's long-held position of profit from this established trade route. Do you think this would be complementary or impactful to Singapore?"
Singapore is likely often overwhelmed by the sheer volume of shipping. A nearby alternative should relieve much of the stress and result in more efficient handling of traffic. Being rushed off your feet results in mistakes. This would reduce that.
Thanks for that, I did not know. Interesting news.
what is a land bridge that connects two seas?
@@davidjones-vx9ju possibly a road, maybe a railroad. It think the point is, shipping containers... But I am no expert.
Pardon me boy, is that the Chichen Itza choo-choo?🎵
When you hear the whistle blowing eight to the bar
Then you know the Pacific is not very far.🎶
Gooooooooooood idea!!
what will each ship have to pay the cartels for protection money?
Before the Panama Canal was built there was a railway across the peninsula up near the U.S border.
Though 6 Decades too early, before Containers. Without them to load/unload twice not economical as Canal was
The rail system can compete time wise with the Panama but adds one other cost factor, the empty ship returning to its home port. The consideration for this would be to provide passage for freight moving from the West to Europe and beyond
For shipment to and from the US and Canada, it seems like the existing container ports, such as Savannah, with their rail connections to the rest of the continent, would still be preferable. Likewise for cross-continent. The main users it seem would be Mexico/central America and cargo between Europe/west Africa and Asia/Australia. With the threats to shipping through the Red Sea, having a workable alternative to that route could be a big boon to that trade, especially if that area gets even worse than it currently is.
To all the nay sayers: just imagine a mini Amsterdam at both ports. The amount of cargo Amsterdam juggles is mind boggling.
I don't think it will float, it would require two ships (one on each side) double the personnel and an additional loading and unloading of cargo in a country full of crooks and drug cartel. Shipments would be dependent on available transportation and may need to be split up to make the journey, a logistics nightmare. Also additional insurance might be necessary.
Don't forget the crime and local drug lords. The problems are MUCH worse than you think and the video does not even mention them!
@@largol33t12Thank of all the government officials you would have to pay off each trip you made.
Mexico will soon surpass the US in the production of goods as China continued to relocate their factories and the massive producton facilities to Mexico
WOW! I din't know anything about that. Thank you.
It's a good project in Mexico 🇲🇽